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LITE财报证实CPO 27H2放量,CW激光供需失衡且中国厂商落后。
$LITE 财报电话会要点: - “我们对共封装光学(CPO)规模化部署的时间表可见度已提高。我们确信,2027年下半年我们的超高功率激光芯片需求将强劲增长。” Lumentum 确认其领先客户将于 2027 年下半年启动 CPO 规模化放量。 - “我们最近获得了首个外部光源(ELS)模块订单,将于 2027 年下半年交付。” ELS 行业放量时间表。 - “非平面光学(NPO)机会对我们完全是增量,显著增加了光学市场的总规模(TAM)。” 激光瓶颈俱乐部的 TAM 进一步扩大。 - “我们预计 1.6T 光模块的采用将从财年第一季度开始加速,并持续至 2027 年。” - “即使在连续波(CW)激光领域,我们对自己提价的能力也感到惊讶。” $SIVE 及其他 CW 激光玩家拥有积极的定价权。 - “因此,我们能够获得可观的价格溢价,并预计这种溢价将维持下去,即使这些中国厂商上线。我也提醒人们,我认为一些中国激光供应商目前并未在市场上实际交付,所以当它们抛出那些大数字时,没有追索权。迄今为止,我们在其产出方面尚未看到类似情况。” 中国厂商在激光/产能方面落后于市场预期,得到 $AAOI 和 $LITE 的证实。 - “不幸的是,我们在高功率激光的发货上远远落后。” “需求信号增加,相对于我们的供应能力,我们更加落后。” 超高功率(UHP) CW 激光产能存在极端供需失衡,EML 需求持续失衡。年底发货约 +5000 万美元 -> 1 亿美元+(“三位数季度”),进入 2027 年下半年和 2028 年更大的规模化需求。 - “所以,我认为过去三个月我们真正试图做的是确保更多的衬底供应”(因为供需失衡),“我们从 $AXTI 找到了额外的衬底帮助。他们是伟大的合作伙伴。” 磷化铟(InP)衬底瓶颈出现。 要点总结: - Lumentum 确认 CPO 2027 年下半年放量,驳斥任何“延迟”新闻为市场“噪音”。(一份延迟报告造成了巨大损害,Nvidia、Lumentum 等公司花了数周进行危机公关)。 - CW 激光需求在 2027 年下半年放量。 - 超高功率 CW 激光产能的极端供需失衡让 Lumentum 感到惊讶。 - 超高功率激光拥有极高利润率,并能对 CW 激光产能提价。 - 中国在激光/产能方面进一步落后。 基本上验证了西方 CW 激光玩家的时间表 + 需求/定价。 在主要放量开始之前,CW 激光的稀缺性已经发生……
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$LITE earnings transcript TLDRs: - "Our visibility into the timing of CPO scale-up deployments has also sharpened. We remain confident in a demand ramp for our ultra-high-power laser chips in the second half of calendar 2027" H2 2027 start of CPO scale up ramp confirmed from Lumentum for their lead customer. - "We were recently given our first external light source, or ELS, module purchase for delivery by the second half of calendar 2027" ELS industry ramp timelines - "The NPO opportunity is completely additive for us, significantly increasing the optical TAM." More TAM for laser chokepoint club - "we expect the 1.6T transceiver uptake to intensify starting in fiscal Q1 and sustain through calendar 2027." - "Even in CW, we’ve been surprised at our ability to price up" Positive pricing power for $SIVE and the other CW laser players. - "As a result, we are able to command a nice price premium that we expect to sustain, as these Chinese if these Chinese guys come online. I caution people also, I think people are some of these Chinese laser suppliers are not delivering in the market today, so they have there is no recourse when they throw out these big numbers. We have not seen anything like that to date in terms of their output." Chinese players are more behind than markets expect, corroborated by $AAOI and $LITE. - "We are way behind in our shipments, unfortunately, on high-powered lasers" "The demand signal has increased, and we are very much further behind relative to our ability to supply." Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity, continued demand imbalance for EML. Shipping roughly +$50M year end -> $100m+ ("triple digit quarter") into much larger H2 2027 and 2028 scale up demand,. - "So what we are trying to do, I think, really in the last three months is secure even more substrate supply" (because of demand imbalance), "we found additional substrate help from $AXTI They are a great partner." Hello InP substrate bottleneck. TLDR: - Lumentum CPO scale up H2 2027 shipments got confirmed, dismissed any "delay" news as market "noise". (one delay report caused so much damage, and it took Nvidia, Lumentum, and all these companies weeks to do damage control). - CW lasers demand ramp second half of 2027 - Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity surprised Lumentum - UHP lasers commands very high margins and is able to price up CW laser capacity. - China further behind in the laser/capacity angle. Basically just validated timelines + demand/pricing for Western CW laser players. CW laser scarcity is already happening before the main volume ramp even begins...
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AI产业链各环节财报强劲,需求与订单爆发式增长。
今天AI主题的财报简直疯狂,涉及$CRWV、$SMCI和$LITE。 Coreweave:荒谬的~1040亿美元+积压订单,这还不包括Q3初新增的250亿美元+客户协议。 Neoclouds(如Nebius、Iren等)的计算需求传导效应巨大。 Supermicro:荒谬的650-720亿美元营收指引,新增600亿美元+订单... AI数据中心建设的传导效应极其巨大。 Lumentum:营收从8.08亿 -> 10.1亿 -> 12.5亿美元攀升,运营利润率逐季增长。 光子学玩家一直在疯狂印钞。 简而言之:AI建设的每一层都在疯狂爆发,且体现在财报中。
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Insane earnings today for the AI theme with $CRWV, $SMCI, and $LITE. Coreweave: Absurd ~$104B+ backlog, which doesn't include $25B+ of new customer agreements added in early Q3. Compute demand read through for Neoclouds is enormous (For Nebius, Iren and others) Supermicro: Absurd $65-72B in revenue guidance, adding $60B+ in new orders... AI DC buildout read through is just enormous. Lumentum: $808M -> $1.01B -> $1.25B revenue ramp, with operating margins growing quarter after quarter. Photonics players just keeps printing. TLDR: Every layer of the AI buildout goes brrrrr, and it's showing up in earnings.
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LITE财报超预期,指引强劲,看好CPO渗透及同行受益。
$LITE 财报出炉,表现非常强劲: 营收:10.1亿美元,环比+24.5%,同比+109.3% vs. 预期约9.846亿美元 调整后每股收益(Adj. EPS):3.23美元 vs. 预期约2.95美元 毛利率(非GAAP):50.4% / 营业利润率(非GAAP) 36.6% FY2027 Q1指引可能更重要: 营收:12.25亿–12.75亿美元 vs. 预期约11.6亿美元 调整后每股收益:4.05–4.35美元 vs. 预期约3.63美元 营业利润率(非GAAP) 39.5% - 40.5% 关于备注: 看到:“对超高功率共封装光学(CPO)激光器的需求增加,ELS模块获得初始订单” - 对其他CPO玩家如 $SIVEF、$COHR 等有很好的传导效应(read through)。(可能不包括 $AAOI,因为它们错过了第一代部署) - “NPO参与的广度是光学开始渗透机架内连接性的初步迹象,显著提升了我们的光学总可寻址市场(TAM)” - 营收预测“比目标模型提前一个多季度达成。” 正如预期的极其强劲的财报,营收从: 8.08亿 -> 10.1亿 -> 12.5亿,同时营业利润率持续增加... 这只是我的初步印象。 最重要的是即将召开的财报电话会议。
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$LITE earnings are out, very strong earnings: Revenue: $1.01B, +24.5% Q/Q, +109.3% Y/Y growth vs. ~$984.6M Adj. EPS: $3.23 vs. ~$2.95 Gross Margin (non-gaap): 50.4% / Operating margin (non-gaap) 36.6% Q1 FY2027 guidance is probably more important: Revenue: $1.225–1.275B vs. ~$1.16B Adj. EPS: $4.05–4.35 vs. ~$3.63 Operating margin (non-gaap) of 39.5% - 40.5% In terms of notes: Sees: "Increasing demand for ultra-high-power CPO lasers, an initial order for ELS modules" - Great read through on other CPO players like $SIVEF, $COHR, and others. (maybe not AAOI since they're missing out on first-gen deployments) - "Breath of NPO engagements are the first signs that optics are starting to penetrate in-rack connectivity, significantly upping our optical TAM" - Revenue projections "reaching our target model more than a quarter ahead of schedule." Extremely strong earnings as expected, you have revenue going from: $808M -> $1.01B -> $1.25B while operating margin keeps increasing... Just my first impressions. Most important thing is the earnings call coming up soon.
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引用研究指出低频交易优于过度交易,建议散户保持信念避免恐慌抛售。
现在市场又在举办激光派对,从 $SIVE、OE Solutions、$LITE、Coherent 到 $AAOI。有一项有趣的研究:富达(Fidelity)和加州大学伯克利分校(UC Berkeley)的论文都指出,表现最好的投资者通常是那些…… - 偶然忘记账户的人(富达) - 不主动交易/不过度交易的人(低频交易者回报18.5% vs 11.4%)。 这不是建议,但这些轶事可能对散户阅读有帮助…… 因为我目睹了记忆、光子学或主题波动性的大量投降式抛售,导致散户在强劲反弹时没有持仓。 拥有信念通常也属于“不过度交易”阵营,因为这有助于在下跌时不过度交易,或看到补仓机会。
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Now that markets are hosting a laser party again from $SIVE, OE Solutions, $LITE, Coherent, to $AAOI. There’s a pretty interesting study: Both from Fidelity and a UC Berkeley research paper, that the best investors are the ones who either… - Anecdotally forgot about their account (Fidelity) - Didn’t actively trade/overtrade (18.5% return from infrequent traders vs. 11.4%). Not any advice, but some of these anecdotes might be helpful to retail to read in general… Since I witnessed a lot capitulation off memory, photonics, or thematic volatility, just for retail not have positions on a sharp recovery. Having conviction also usually people in that “not overtrading” camp, since it helps to not overtrade in drops or see opportunities to cost average.
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光模块供需失衡且产能售罄,预计LITE财报强劲并作为行业风向标。
@00m00oo 我认为从 $AAOI 的财报中我们已经得到了太多关于光模块(Optical Transceivers)需求存在20-40%失衡以及激光器(Lasers)成为瓶颈的暗示。 而且 $POET 在其年度股东大会(AGM)上表示,未来两年三大云厂商的产能已完全售罄。 我通常不做财报涨跌预测,因为那大多时候就像抛硬币一样随机。但我可以说,除非有非常意外的情况,否则大部分定价调整在财报发布前就已经发生。 无论如何,我预计 $LITE 的财报会非常强劲,我主要将其作为其他激光器厂商的参考指标(read-through)。
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@00m00oo I think we already got too many hints from $AAOI earnings about demand 20-40% imbalance for optical transivers with lasers as a bottleneck. And $POET stating big 3 are completely sold out of capacity next 2 years during their AGM. I don’t give earnings up or down predictions since it’s a coin flip most of the time. But I can say that a lot of pricing happens before earnings, unless there’s something very unexpected. Regardless I expect $LITE earnings to come out really strong, and I primary use it as a read through for your other laser players.
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OCP峰会及财报周催化光模块与机器人板块,Unitree IPO或带动机器人行情。
近期的一些事件: - 明天是OCP亚太峰会(Ayar、Lightmatter、$AMD、$NVDA),你的共封装光学(CPO)概念股正在发布公告/更新。 这应该是某些光模块玩家的催化剂。 - 财报周:$ASTS、$RKLB今天发布(太空),$LITE周二(光子学),$NBIS在本周中段(Neocloud),还有更多。 - Unitree IPO认购今天开启,预计本月上市。 如果开盘良好,应是人形机器人+机器人板块的潜在催化剂,例如 $CCXI。 接下来的一周很有趣。
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Just some near term events: - OCP APAC tomorrow (Ayar, Lightmatter, $AMD, $NVDA) and your CPO players are giving announcements/updates. This should be a catalyst for certain optical players. - Earnings week: with $ASTS, $RKLB reporting today (space), $LITE on Tuesday (photonics), $NBIS in the middle of the week (Neocloud), and more. - Unitree IPO subscriptions opened up today and Listing is expected this month. Should be a potential catalyst for the humanoid + robotics sector if it opens up well eg. $CCXI. Fun week ahead.
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市场在瓶颈间轮动,基本面未变仅估值波动,建议理性看待。
是的,我依然看好存储芯片,如 $MU / 三星。正如我之前所说,市场倾向于在瓶颈之间轮动。本周看来,光子学领域从 $AXTI 到 $LITE 再次成为焦点。关键在于……主要变化的是股价,随后辅以一些叙事和零星更新。对于光子学:> 在7月的下跌中,我们已经知道 $COHR / $LITE 的激光器已完全售罄,未来两年无货。> 我们从上季度财报电话会中已知 $AAOI 的需求失衡。7月崩盘期间,除了清算后的挂牌价外,基本面没有任何恶化。然而,当 $AAOI 跌至 $75 或 $AXTI 跌至 $35 时,许多人称其为“骗局”……但当它们涨回 $140 或 $80 时,人们又看多了,尽管光模块/磷化铟(InP)衬底瓶颈未变,甚至可能更糟(例如美国拟禁止中国新光模块,需求预测上调)。对于存储:我目睹大量散户投降,但这些人一个月前在 $MU 签署16份SCA并给出卓越指引时曾极度看多。或曾庆祝三星拥有全球最高营业利润。这里有一些更新,例如 Rubin Ultra 的存储优化(Nvidia每代都在追求),价格不再极端高于预期。但在当前价格下,营业利润相对于市值简直荒谬,尤其是存储成为结构性需求。明年的需求失衡应该更严重。人们倾向于在板块下跌时投降并跟随叙事(例如伊朗战争期间的氦气/LNG),即使瓶颈或基本面未变(例如 $SPCX Elon 财报电话会重申存储紧张)。我不能告诉别人该做什么:但 $140 的 $AAOI 和 $75 的 $AAOI 是同一家公司。市值 $1.5T 的三星和 $980B 的三星是同一家公司。只是估值和叙事(通常是噪音)在变,市场在板块间轮动。
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Yes, I'm still bullish on memory like $MU / Samsung. As I said earlier, markets tend to rotate from bottleneck to bottleneck. This week it looks $AXTI to $LITE in the photonics sector is the focus again. The thing is... the primary thing that changed are the stock prices, followed by some narratives + updates sprinkled in here and there. For photonics: > We already knew $COHR / $LITE lasers were completely sold out for the next 2 years during July's drop. > We knew about demand imbalance from $AAOI from last quarter's earnings calls. Nothing deteriorated fundamentally during July's crash, other than listed price after liquidations. Yet tons of people called $AAOI a "scam" when it dropped to $75, or $AXTI a "scam" on its drop to $35... But are bullish again at $140 or $80, when the transciver/InP substrate bottleneck hasn't changed at all, but maybe even got worse... (eg. draft for US ban on new china optical transceivers, scale up demand projections) For Memory: I'm witnessing a lot of retail capitulation, but the same people I'm seeing were mega bullish after $MU signed 16 SCAs and gave exceptional projections a month ago. Or were celebrating Samsung having the highest operating profit in the world. There's updates here and there eg. Rubin Ultra with memory optimizations (which Nvidia strives for every generation), with prices no longer being hiked way above expectations to the extreme. But the operating income relative to MC is just absurd around current prices, especially memory becomes structural. And the demand imbalance should be even worse next year. People tend to capitulate and follow narratives when a sector drops (eg. Helium/LNG back in Iran war), even if the bottleneck or fundamental situation hasn't really changed much (eg. $SPCX Elon earnings call reiterating memory tightness). I can't tell others what to to do: But $AAOI at $140 and $AAOI at $75 are the same company. Samsung at a $1.5T MC and Samsung at a $980B MC are the same company. Just valuations and narratives (often noise) change, and markets rotate from sector to sector.
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Rosenblatt 光通信调研精准,AAOI 财报证实中国 CPO 激光器落后。
我通常喜欢调侃卖方分析师,但 Rosenblatt 对光通信标的的渠道调研(Channel Checks)确实非常出色,他们的报告是我少数愿意讨论的。$AAOI、$LITE、$SIVE 以及激光板块已开始在其预估的时间窗口内恢复。例如,上个月他们提到:“多位空头表示他们可能会在 7 月底和 8 月初平仓”。他们可能误判了 $AMD 会是 $AAOI 的首个共封装光学(CPO) 客户……因为 AAOI 表示他们将缺席第一代 CPO(也许是未来几代?)。但他们关于中国 CPO 激光器定位(例如落后 2-3 年)的许多观点,今天被 AAOI 的财报逐字证实了。
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I usually make fun of sellside, but Rosenblatt has pretty goated channel checks on optical names, and their reports are one of the few I like talking about. $AAOI, $LITE, $SIVE, and the laser party has started to recover around the est. timing windows. eg. last month: "Multiple short sellers told them they will likely close their positions... late July and early August". They might have missed that they believed $AMD would be $AAOI's first CPO customer... since AAOI said they would be missing from first-gen CPO (maybe future gen?) But lot of their talking points about China CPO laser positioning (eg. 2-3 years behind) got corroborated word-for-word from AAOI earnings today.
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看好SIVE激光资产潜力,预期其分拆光模块业务并上市。
@vas_203 呃,鉴于其激光资产极具吸引力,我不希望 $SIVE 被收购。因为我看到它有潜力成为下一个 $LITE。 老实说,剥离出光引擎(OE)解决方案、完整的光收发器业务,或者类似从一家陷入困境的私营初创公司中分拆出来的业务,可能会很有趣。 我猜测这会在未来几个季度纳斯达克上市之后发生。我认为CEO知道该怎么做,所以我只是一路跟随。
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@vas_203 Uhh I don’t want $SIVE to be acquired given how attractive their laser assets are. Since I see potential for them end up as the next $LITE. Honestly carving out OE solutions complete optical transceiver business or something similar that’s distressed from a private startup might be interesting. My guess is it comes after Nasdaq listing within next few quarters or so. I think the CEO knows what to do, so I’m just tagging along for the ride.
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Sivers需向下游拓展以扩大市场,因向下游比向上游更容易。
@homeboyrichie 目前确实如此,因为 Lumilens 拥有直接的超大规模客户和数十亿美元的采购协议。而 $SIVE 是一家上游激光器供应商。Sivers 需要向下游拓展,通过销售光引擎、ELS 或像 $LITE 在并购 Cloud Light 后那样销售完整的光模块,以捕获更大的总可服务市场(TAM)。我的观点是,鉴于合格的激光器供应商数量有限,向下游拓展比向上游更容易。
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@homeboyrichie For now yes, because Lumilens has a direct hyperscaler customer and multi-billion dollar purchase agreements. While $SIVE is an upstream laser supplier. Sivers needs to work its way downstream to capture more TAM with selling optical engines, ELS, or complete optical transceivers like $LITE did after M&A eg. Cloud Light. My opinion is that it’s easier to move downstream than upstream as you seen with the limited amount of qualified laser suppliers out there.
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AAOI缺席CPO部署揭示产能瓶颈,暗示其他CPO玩家价值被低估。
@00m00oo 我对 $AAOI 极度看好,它是我的核心持仓之一? 但当 AOI 表示因产能不足而不参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署时,背后有无数问题需要拆解。 1. 独立连续波分布反馈激光器(CW DFB)产能,比市场预期的更少。 2. 合格的 CPO 激光器玩家,比市场预期的更少。 3. 我记得 Rosenblatt 曾认为 $AAOI 会是 $AMD 的第一个 CPO 客户,但情况可能已变... 而且由于 $LITE 和 $COHR 站在 $NVDA 阵营且未来两年订单已售罄... 其他一些 CPO 玩家可能比人们认为的更有价值。
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@00m00oo I'm extremely bullish on $AAOI, it's one of my top holdings? But there's an unholy amount of things to unpack when AOI said they're not participating in first-gen CPO deployments because there's not enough capacity. 1. Independent CW DFB capacity, even less than markets thought. 2. Qualified CPO laser players, even less than markets thought. 3. I remember Rosenblatt thought $AAOI would be $AMD's first CPO customer, but might not be the case anymore... And since $LITE and $COHR are in camp $NVDA and sold out for next 2 years... Some other CPO players might be more valuable than others think.
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AAOI财报揭示CPO激光器产能瓶颈,利好少数西方厂商,中国技术落后数年。
哇,$AAOI 的财报中对于 $SIVE 及其他激光器玩家来说,利好一个接一个。 1. $AAOI 并未实质性参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署。 “我们根本无法生产足够的[CPO激光器]来参与他们当前的一代[CPO]部署,因为产能根本不够。我们必须优先保障自有光模块的激光器供应。” 因此,第一代CPO激光器的部署范围可能会进一步缩小,仅限于$SIVE、$LITE、$AVGO和$COHR等西方厂商。 如果$AAOI不得不拒绝更多客户,独立的CPO连续波(CW)激光器产能将变得更有价值。 还要记得Trendforce曾提到$AMD签署了CW长期协议(LTA)?$COHR/$LITE已与$NVDA签署了产能协议…… 我原以为是$AAOI,但他们可能出局了。$MTSI在早期CPO参与中也不显眼(除了NPO外财报未提及,且从Ayar网站移除)。 所以我在想$AMD在Helios项目中会与谁合作(例如Sivers+Ayar现在更可能是候选者)? 顺便说一句,这对$AAOI并非看空,因为他们光模块业务需求旺盛。只是对少数有产能的合格CPO激光器厂商更加看多。 2. 磷化铟(InP)激光器/光模块的需求失衡与瓶颈。 AOI CEO的话某种程度上证实了这一点:“客户需求比扩建后的产能高出20%-40%。” “我们几乎每周都从几家大客户那里收到这种需求。激光器目前是光模块业务最大的瓶颈。” 3. 中国在CPO波分复用(DWDM)规格激光器方面落后数年。 我之前在渠道调研CPO竞争时曾覆盖过这一点。 但$AAOI确认中国“至少落后两三年甚至更久”才能拥有CPO激光器,这极大地印证了西方激光器在CPO激光器卡脖子环节上的防御性地位。 总结: - CW激光器和光模块需求严重失衡。 - $AAOI因产能限制未进入第一代CPO(对$AAOI不算看空,因其光模块需求旺盛,但对$SIVE等少数有产能的独立厂商更是利好)。 - 中国在CPO激光器方面落后数年。
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Wow, there's gem after gem in $AAOI earnings for $SIVE + other laser player readthrough. 1. AAOI not meaningfully participating in CPO first-gen deployments. "We just can’t make enough of them [CPO lasers] to be involved in their current first-generation [CPO] deployments because there’s just not enough capacity. We have to prioritize our ability to make lasers for our own transceivers first" So first-gen CPO laser deployments, might even be narrowed down further for Western players like $SIVE, $LITE, $AVGO, and $COHR. And independent CPO CW laser capacity became more valuable if $AAOI had to turn away more customers... Also remember Trendforce was talking about $AMD singing CW LTAs? $COHR / $LITE have capacity signed with $NVDA ... I thought it would be $AAOI, but they might be out of the equation. $MTSI also doesn't look meaningful with early CPO participation (eg. no mention in ER aside from NPO, and removal from Ayar website). So I wonder who players like $AMD is going to go with for Helios (eg. Sivers + Ayar more likely candidate now)? Btw, this is not bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for optical transceiver business. Just more bullish on the existing few qualified CPO laser names that have capacity. 2. Demand imbalance and bottleneck for InP lasers / optical transceivers. AOI's CEO stated kinda supported that when they said: "The customer demand is 20%-40% higher" than expanded built out capacity. "We are getting this kind of demand from several big customers almost every week. Lasers are the biggest bottleneck right now for the transceiver business" 3. China being years away from having CPO DWDM specification lasers. I covered this earlier when looking at CPO competition from channel checks. But AAOI confirming that China is "easily at least two, three years or even longer from having CPO lasers is incredible tread through on defensibility Western laser positioning in the CPO laser chokepoint. TLDR: - High demand imbalance for CW lasers and optical transceivers. - $AAOI not in first-gen CPO due to capacity constraints (not exactly bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for their optical transciver business, but even better news for the few independent players with capacity coming online like $SIVE) - China years behind in CPO lasers.
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MTSI财报证实磷化铟DFB激光器短缺,利好SIVE和LITE。
$MTSI 财报电话会议记录: “由于磷化铟分布反馈(DFB)激光器普遍供应短缺,客户正迫切地向我们寻求解决方案。” 重点在于“迫切”、“连续波(CW) DFB激光器”以及“向我们寻求”。 像 $SIVE 和 $LITE 这样的连续波 DFB 概念股,听到这一激光器瓶颈得到验证应该会很高兴。
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$MTSI earnings transcript: "Customers are coming to us with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers" Emphasis on "Urgency", CW "DFB lasers", "coming to us". CW DFB names, such as like $SIVE and $LITE should be happy to hear about this laser bottleneck getting validated.
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InP激光器产能严重不足,看好新增独立产能标的。
@_king142 $LITE 首席执行官表示,即使其 5 座磷化铟(InP)激光器晶圆厂投产,出货量仍将低于客户需求 30% 以上。(甚至比当前的内存短缺更严重) $AAOI 也表达了类似的观点,缺口在 20-40% 之间。 我猜测 InP 衬底和激光器都将成为 2027 年最严重的瓶颈之一。 这就是为什么我非常看重任何新增的独立产能,无论是 $SIVE 与 Win 的合作还是 $AAOI。
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@_king142 $LITE CEO said even as their 5 InP laser fabs come online, shipments would be 30%+ below customer demand. (and worse than the current memory shortage) $AAOI said something similiar with a 20-40% figure. My guess is that InP substrates and lasers both will be one of the most severe bottlenecks in 2027. Which is why I place a lot of value on any independent capacity that comes online whether it's $SIVE with Win or $AAOI.
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AAOI财报验证光模块需求远超供应,产能爬坡中,看好板块传导。
以下是关于 $AAOI 财报的简要要点: - 预计超大规模客户将在未来几周内完成 1.6T 产品的全面认证(有助于收入爬坡 #2,时间线) - 继续认为 AOI 将拥有美国最大的 AI 数据中心光收发器产能(在竞争对手可能被禁时期重申雄心) - 预计磷化铟(InP)产能设施将于 2027 年初投产(进一步爬坡的时间线参考) - 总产能接近每月 20 万颗/单位,年底 800G/1.6T 达 65 万颗/单位。2027 年底达 93 万颗/单位(这是我想要看到的爬坡) - “增加外部光源(ELSFP)的制造产能。这是用于共封装光学(CPO)的”。我们预计今年晚些时候及 2027 年扩大生产,最终在 2028 年达到每月约 40 万件(需要时间将其建模为收入) - “如前所述,我们多年来一直内部制造激光器。这使我们避免了影响行业其他公司的短缺”(CW/EML 激光器短缺期间的垂直整合看多逻辑) - 我们相信未来 CPO 将继续推动对高功率激光器的需求增加(CPO 板块论点验证) - “长期目标是将非公认会计准则毛利率恢复到 40% 左右” - “第二季度末现金等价物总计 5.088 亿美元” 我需要再次确认 ATM 是否完成 - “我们交付收入的能力,特别是 800G 产品,目前受限于我们的生产能力”“如果我们能生产更多,我们现在就能发货更多” 需求 > 供应验证。 - “大部分增加的产能将在美国。即便如此,让我说,正如我一直强调的,这还不足以应对客户需求。客户需求高出 20%-40%。” 整个板块的光子学需求验证惊人,阅读 $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL 等公司的传导效应令人惊叹。 - “在未来两三年内不会,尤其是需求如此之大。好吧?即使结合 AI,$LITE, $COHR, $AVGO 加在一起,未来几年满足客户需求仍然非常困难” 更多光通信板块需求验证。 - CPO 时间线:“如果你说的是 CPO 市场的高产量制造商,我会说是明年第三季度末左右”以及“我们已与至少五家客户密切合作” 如果你关心当前财报(我并没有仔细看) 营收:1.91 亿美元 vs 1.90 亿美元 每股收益:0.06 美元 vs 0.02 美元 简而言之:激光器 + 光通信板块需求传导非凡。某种程度上支持 Lumentum CEO 关于激光器短缺比内存短缺更严重的说法。 2027 年产能爬坡按计划进行。要映射拐点期与时间线,大约在明年年初,正如他们之前的财报电话会议所述。 AAOI 现在拥有客户。限制在于制造足够的激光器和收发器。
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Just some TLDR notes on $AAOI earnings: - Expects full qualification of 1.6T products by their hyperscaler customer within next couple of weeks (helpful revenue ramp #2, timelines) - Continues to believe that AOI will have the largest AI DC transceiver production capacity in the US (reiterating ambitions during a time when their competitors might get banned) - Expects facilities toward InP capacity to come online in early 2027 (timeline FYI in terms of further ramp) - Total capacity is approaching 200,000/u per month, EOY 650,000/u per month of 800g/1.6t. EOY 2027, 930,000/u (this is the ramp i want to see) - "increase our manufacturing capacity for our external light source or ELSFP. That's for co-packaged optics or CPO". we anticipate ramping production later this year and into 2027, ultimately culminating in about 400,000 pieces per month in 2028 (need some time to model this into revenue) - "As we have mentioned before, we've been manufacturing lasers internally for many years. This has allowed us to avoid some of the shortages that have affected others in the industry" (vertical integration bull case during CW/EML laser shortages) - We believe that in the future, CPO will continue to drive increased demand for high-power lasers (thesis validation on CPO sector) - "to our long-term objective of returning non-GAAP gross margins to around 40%" - "We ended the second quarter with $508.8 million in total cash equivalents" I need to double check if the ATM finished or not - "our ability to deliver revenue in general, and specifically when it comes to 800G products, is limited by our production capacity right now" "If we could produce more, we could ship more right now" Demand > Supply validation. - "Most of the increased capacity will be in U.S. Even so, let me say that, like I keep emphasizing, that is not good enough for the customer demand. The customer demand is 20%-40% higher." Unholy photonics demand validation across the whole sector, read through for $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL, and others is amazing. - "Not in the next two, three years, especially the demand is so big. Okay? Even combined AI, $LITE, $COHR, $AVGO all together, it's still very tough to meet the customer demand in the next few years" More optical sector demand validation. - CPO Timelines: "If you're talking about really high volume manufacturer [for CPO market], I would say more like the late Q3 next year" and "We have been working very close with at least five customer" If you care about current earnings (which I'm not really looking at closely) Revenue: $191M vs. $190m EPS: $.06 vs. $.02 TLDR: Extraordinary demand across the laser + optical sector read through. Kinda supporting Lumentum CEO statement that laser shortage is worse than memory shortages. 2027 capacity ramp on track. To map inflection period with timelines, would be around early next year, as stated in their previous earnings call. AAOI has the customers now. Limitation is making enough lasers and transceivers.
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禁令利好西方光模块厂商,AAOI等1.6T+玩家受益。
@Lseperlee 对我来说,$AAOI 是 2027 年上半年末的放量玩家,因为大约那时他们将达到每月 4.71 亿美元营收预测的拐点。近期起草的禁止英诺赛科(Innolight)等公司新光模块的光模块禁令,增加了 $AAOI、$SIVE/$JBL、$LITE、$COHR 等公司在 1.6T+ 项目上的权重。尤其是如果该禁令在 2026 年最终确定。由于可能会出现价格上涨,且需求将更集中于少数西方玩家产能。
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@Lseperlee $AAOI is an end of H1 2027 volume ramp player for me, since around then is when they hit inflection point of $471m/month revenue projections. Recent drafted ban on new optical transceivers coming from Innolight and others, increase weight on players like AAOI, $SIVE / $JBL, $LITE, $COHR for their 1.6T+ programs as well. Especially if finalized in 2026. Since there's likely going to be price hikes, and more demand concentration over capacity from the select few Western players.
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特朗普拟禁中国光模块,利好西方供应链分化。
西方供应链迎来了一个非常实质性的催化剂,涉及 $AAOI、$SIVE/Jabil、$LITE 和 Coherent:特朗普政府正在起草一项禁令,禁止新的中国光模块(Optical Transceivers)和直流(DC)设备。这可能会打击中国的中际旭创(Innolight)、新易盛(Eoptolink)以及其他中国光互连(Optical Interconnect)供应链。“该机构将禁止所有新型光模块的进口,然后豁免许多非中国供应商的限制。”我们可能会看到供应链出现更大的分化,西方玩家的重要性将进一步提升。
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A very material catalyst came about for Western supply chains from $AAOI, $SIVE / Jabil, to $LITE and Coherent: The Trump administration is drafting a ban of new Chinese optical transceivers and DC devices. Which would likely hit China’s Innolight, Eoptolink, and other Chinese optical interconnect supply chains. "The agency would ban all imports of new transceiver models and then exempt many non-Chinese suppliers from the restrictions" We'll likely see a larger bifurcation of supply chains with even greater importance put on Western players.
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AI激光器供应危机加剧,验证AAOI等标的瓶颈逻辑。
$LITE CEO Michael Hurlston 在 RAISE 峰会上警告称,AI 数据中心(AI DCs)用磷化铟(InP)激光器的供应缺口: 正面临比存储芯片更严重的供应链危机。 凭借 Lumentum 的 5 座 InP 晶圆厂,其出货量将比客户需求低 30% 以上。 这在目前的电吸收调制激光器(EMLs)上尤为明显,但随着共封装光学(CPO)的推进,已扩展至连续波(CW)激光器。 我一直看好 $AAOI、$SIVE、$LITE 和 $COHR 带来的激光器卡脖子+瓶颈逻辑。很高兴这一论点开始得到验证。
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$LITE CEO Michael Hurlston at the RAISE Summit warned that the supply gap for InP lasers for AI DCs: Is facing a more severe supply chain crisis than memory. And with Lumentum's 5 InP fabs, shipments would be more than 30%+ below customer demand. This is especially visible with EMLs today but is already expanding to CW, especially as CPO ramps. I've always been a fan of the laser chokepoint + bottleneck from $AAOI, $SIVE, $LITE, and $COHR. And glad this thesis is starting to see validation.
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亚马逊资本支出上调及算力短缺证实,AXTI 产能扩张且供不应求,看多 AI 半导体及光通信供应链。
几条财报摘要,重点是我看好的 $AXTI 和 $AMZN: 亚马逊: - 将 2026 年资本支出上调至 2200 亿美元(此前为 2000 亿美元),部分原因是内存成本上升,这对 $MU 和三星是利好。 - 即使达到 2200 亿美元,亚马逊的产能仍无法满足 2026 年的所有需求;Jassy 预计 2027 年情况相同。 - 大多数 2027 年的新增产能已被预订,2028 年的大量产能也已预订。 主要浏览了上游半导体板块。$GOOGL、$META、$AMZN 和 $MSFT 均指出算力短缺。 几周前关于 Meta 等公司“算力过剩”以及超大规模云厂商削减支出的所有叙事……全是胡扯。 亚马逊财报对 AI 半导体交易非常看多。 AXTI: - AXT 计划在 2026 年将磷化铟(InP)产能翻倍,2027 年再翻倍。 - 预计这将使 AXT 成为“迄今为止全球最大的磷化铟生产商”——冲鸭。 - 第二季度营收为 4760 万美元,创 AXT 历史单季新高(来自数据中心应用的 InP 营收创纪录达 3070 万美元)。 - 营收环比增长 77%,同比增长 164%。 - InP 营收-产能目标:2026 年底每季度 6000 万美元。 - 2027 年底每季度 1.3 亿美元。 由于管理层表示他们将“寻找任何方式增加产能扩张”,1.3 亿美元的目标可能会进一步提高。 管理层称报告中的积压订单仍远高于 1 亿美元,但该数字已不能反映所有可用需求。 “无论我们增加产能的速度多快,客户需求持续超过供应。” 800G/1.6T 正在驱动当前周期,而 NPO/CPO 将其延伸至 2027 年之后。 此外,他们的目标是 50% 以上的毛利率:“我们绝对应该瞄准一个以五开头的数字。” 中国需求翻倍有余,且与 Casela、$COHR 和 $LITE 的协议并未实质性推动第二季度业绩。 这甚至还没有考虑我预测的随着 InP 衬底瓶颈加剧带来的巨大平均售价(ASP)上涨。 摘要: - 亚马逊算力需求过大,需要资本支出来满足,因此上游半导体起飞。 - AXT 是全球最大的 InP 衬底供应商,高毛利率,产能扩张,且供应跟不上需求。 看多来自亚马逊的需求端+资本支出。看多上游光通信供应链,因为需求过大。
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Few earnings TLDRs with my favorite $AXTI and $AMZN: Amazon: - Raised 2026 capex to $220B vs. prior $200B (partly due to higher memory costs, which is bullish on $MU to Samsung) - Even at $220B, Amazon will not have enough capacity to meet all 2026 demand; Jassy expects the same in 2027. - Most incoming 2027 capacity is already reserved, with substantial 2028 capacity also reserved. Mostly read through on upstream semis. $GOOGL, $META, $AMZN, and $MSFT all identified compute shortage. All the narratives a few weeks earlier was "excess compute" from Meta and others + hyperscalers cutting back on spend... All BS. Amazon earnings was very bullish on AI semi trade. AXTI: - AXT to double InP capacity during 2026. Then double again in 2027. This is expected to make AXT "by far the largest indium phosphide producer in the world." - LFG - Q2 rev was $47.6M, the highest quarterly revenue in AXT history (InP revenue reached a record $30.7M, from DC applications.) - Revenue increased 77% sequentially and 164% year over year. - InP revenue-capacity targets: $60M per quarter exiting 2026. - $130M per quarter exiting 2027 That $130m target could be hiked too since management stated they find "whatever ways to increase that capacity expansion" - Management said the reported backlog remains well above $100M, but that number no longer reflects all available demand. "Customer demand continues to outpace supply, no matter how fast we add capacity." 800G/1.6T is driving the current cycle, while NPO/CPO extends it beyond 2027. Also they're targeting 50%-plus gross margin: "We should definitely be targeting a number that begins with a five." China demand more than doubled, and their agreements with Casela, $COHR and $LITE did not materially drive Q2. This is not even considering my projected massive ASP hikes yet as InP substrates get more bottlenecked. TLDR: - Amazon too much compute demands, needs capex to fufill it, so upstream semis go brrr. - AXT world largest InP substrate supplier, high gross margins, expansion, and supply can't keep up with demand. Bullish on demand side from Amazon + capex. Bullish on upstream optical supply chains from too much demand.
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AXTI获两大光学巨头巨额产能预留订单,信号积极。
@wz2013 $AXTI 此前已与 $COHR 签订长期协议(LTA),并支付了 2230 万美元的预留金。今天又与 $LITE 签订了 LTA,总计 8700 万美元(4350 万 + 4350 万)再次用于预留产能。考虑到这两家都是领先的光学玩家,这似乎是积极的信号。合同定价等具体细节尚不清楚,我们将拭目以待。
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@wz2013 $AXTI secured LTA with $COHR earlier, with a $22.3M reservation payment. As well as a LTA with $LITE today, totaling $87M ($43.5M + $43.5M) again to reserve capacity. Considering that these are both of the two leading optical players, seems positive. The actual details such as pricing of the contracts aren't known, so we'll find out more.
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AXTI与Lumentum签InP衬底长协,Lumentum付4350万定金预留产能。
$AXTI 与 $LITE 就磷化铟(InP)衬底签署长期协议。Lumentum 同意支付 4350 万美元定金以预留产能。https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa
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$AXTI enters long term agreement with $LITE for InP substrates. Lumentum has agreed to pay a deposit of $43.5M as a reservation for capacity. https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa
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AI去杠杆冲击AAOI,质疑其估值并对比LITE。
@nicomejia_ 目前全球范围内正在进行无差别的AI去杠杆化,$AAOI 是受影响的高贝塔(High-Beta)标的之一。如果他们在2027年(基于每月4.71亿美元的预测)实现56亿美元的年化营收,却依然维持63亿美元的公司市值,我个人至少会感到惊讶。$LITE 目前的年化营收约为32.3亿美元,但市值已达480亿美元(尽管利润率更高)。
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@nicomejia_ Global indiscriminate AI deleveraging right now, $AAOI is one of the high-beta names affected. I'd personally be surprised to say the least if they do $5.6B annualized revenue in 2027 (off of $471m/month projections), and remain a $6.3B company. $LITE annualized right now is ~$3.23B and they're a $48B company (but higher margins)
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美政府入股GFS推CPO,利好西方供应链玩家。
@Yeshuaisking11 对于关键矿产,我原本就预料到西方需要尽可能多的补贴来与中国竞争。 美国政府入股 $GFS 以支持共封装光学(CPO)并不在我的预期之内。但这确实表明 CPO 已成为算力供应链的优先事项,且他们已将格芯(Globalfoundries)打造为本土冠军。 我认为这对所有参与美国 CPO 供应链的西方玩家如 $LITE / $SIVE 都是利好。但对世界其他地区的相关企业则不然。
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@Yeshuaisking11 I kinda expected it for critical minerals since Western needs as much subsidies as possible to compete with China. US Gov taking a stake in $GFS for CPO was not on my calendar. But it does go to show CPO becoming a compute supply chain priority and they made Globalfoundries a domestic champion. Which my thoughts are that it's positive for all the Western players this US CPO supply chains like $LITE / $SIVE. Not so much for other parts of the world.
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美政府注资GFS加速CPO研发,利好硅光子供应链标的SIVE和LITE。
美国政府将持有 $GFS 1% 的股份,并授予其 3 亿美元用于美国《芯片法案》(CHIPS ACT)。 鉴于该《芯片法案》专门旨在推进共封装光学(CPO) + 硅光子技术(Silicon Photonics),这实际上是对 $SIVE / $LITE 的强烈利好映射(read through)。 (参考:Sivers 和 Lumentum 是 GFS 演示文稿中提到的唯二两家公开激光供应商。Sivers 激光阵列最近被指定为 Globalfoundries SCALE 用于 CPO 的参考设计。) 根据美国政府公告:“GlobalFoundries 将获得高达 3 亿美元,以将国内 CPO 研发加速两到三年”(NIST) 从未想过我们会看到美国政府 / $INTC 晶圆代工模式在特定 CPO 领域的应用...
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US Gov to take 1% stake in $GFS, and award them $300m for the US CHIPS ACT. This is actually a strong read through on $SIVE / $LITE, given this CHIPS ACT is specifically aimed at advancing CPO + Silicon Photonics. (For reference, Sivers and Lumentum were the only two public laser suppliers named in GFS presentation slides. Sivers laser arrays was named recently as a reference design in Globalfoundries SCALE for CPO). Per US Gov announcement: "GlobalFoundries will receive up to $300 million to accelerate domestic CPO R&D by two to three years" (NIST) Never thought we'd see the US Gov / $INTC foundry playbook for CPO in specific...
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博主认为AI需求加速信号明确,短期波动属去杠杆,看好光互连及存储板块。
我个人认为这是极短期的去杠杆行为,导致许多个股超跌。 - $BE 和 $TER 公布了超预期的业绩,Bloom 报告营收同比增长 166% + 利润率扩张 + 上调 2026 年指引... Teradyne 报告营收同比增长 104%,每股收益增长 300%+。 - 中国领先的光学玩家公布了惊人的初步财报,对西方光子学板块有极强的映射效应。 - 我认为财报季倾向于提醒市场 AI 加速仍在继续。我预计 $LITE、$SNDK / SK Hynix 以及板块龙头 ERs 将继续这一趋势。 - 但感觉市场更多是在奖励现有的加速,而非基于短期修正(如 $AMKR 所见)的未来一年增长。 - 总之,对我跟踪的主题来说看起来非常积极。 - 然后你有 $GOOGL 资本支出上调至 1950-2050 亿美元,这通常是超大规模云厂商最大的 AI 需求信号。 - 预测市场显示下次 FOMC 会议利率不变的概率为 77%。特朗普政府周一呼吁美联储降息。 - 所以今年三次加息的恐惧似乎有些夸大。 - 从 DUV 到 $CXMT 产能过剩的中国恐惧也被极度夸大。我们在每个行业都见过这种情况,直到人们记住激光或 HBM 瓶颈存在是有原因的。 - 就个人想法而言,看到所有东西一起涨跌是不健康的,尤其是这些主题。但我个人并不担心,因为我对我的持仓有充分信心,特别是像 $SIVE 或 $AAOI 这样的光互连领域。 - $META 计算和 $GOOGL GCP 利润率/增长显示出对 $NBIS 及类似新云业务模式的需求增加。 - $META 及其他超大规模云厂商关于与 $SNDK 和三星/SK Hynix、$MU 的长期协议(LTAs)的笔记指向结构性内存需求。 - 可以一直列举下去... - 但当 Jim Cramer 告诉每个保证金交易员在开盘时“全部卖出”,而新闻说存在 AI 泡沫时。 - 我讨厌别人说“它在跌所以卖出”。我相信重要的是看加速的营收/每股收益增长。如果营收加速与超大规模云厂商资本支出保持一致,那么该逻辑依然成立。 - 总之:我看到了 AI 需求/营收加速的迹象,超大规模云厂商资本支出是最重要的跟踪指标之一。 - 我猜我们会看到该主题广泛复苏。但我无法预测具体发生在哪一小时、哪一天或哪一周。
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I personally see it as extreme short term deleveraging that overshot many individual names. - $BE to $TER reported blowout results, with Bloom reporting 166% Y/Y rev growth + expanding margins + raised 2026 guidance... Teradyne reported 104% Y/Y revenue growth with 300%+ EPS growth. Your leading optical players over in China reported amazing preliminary earnings + extremely strong read through for the Western photonics sector. Think earnings season tend to remind markets about continued AI acceleration. I'm expecting $LITE, $SNDK / SK Hynix, and sector leader ERs to continue that trend. But it does feel like markets are rewarding existing acceleration more rather than future growth a year out over near-term revisions as seen with $AMKR. But as a TLDR, looks very positive for the themes I'm tracking. - Then you have $GOOGL capex raised to $195-$205B, which is typically the biggest AI demand signal from hyperscalers. - 77% 0bps change est. next FOMC decision from prediction markets. Trump administration on Monday called for the Fed to lower interest rates. So your 3x rate hikes fears this year seem kinda overblown. - Chinese fears from DUV to $CXMT overflooding are extremely overblown as well. We see this with every sector from time to time until people remember that lasers or HBM bottlenecks for a reason. As for personal thoughts, it was unhealthy seeing everything rise up or down together, especially with these themes. But I'm personally not worried since I have full conviction in my names, especially optical interconnects like $SIVE or $AAOI. $META compute and $GOOGL GCP margins/growth shows increasing demand for $NBIS and similar neocloud business models. $META + other hyperscaler notes around LTAs with $SNDK and Samsung/SK Hynix, $MU point to structural memory demand. Can go on and on... But when you have Jim Cramer telling every margined DC trader to "sell everything" at market open and news saying there's an AI bubble. I do hate it when others say "it's dropping so sell". My belief is that the important thing to look is accelerating revenue/EPS growth. And if that thesis stays in-tact with revenue acceleration in line with hyperscaler capex. TLDR: I see signs of AI demand / revenue acceleration, hyperscaler capex is one of the most important things to track. And my guess is that we'll see the theme recover broadly. But I can't predict what hour, day, or week that happens.
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澄清AMD是AAOI首批CPO客户,并指出LITE/COHR/SIVE为CPO激光器核心标的。
@Thomus0x 呃,Rosenblatt 6月30日的研报指出 AMD 是 $AAOI 共封装光学(CPO) 最可能的首批客户。我不会说他们离实现还遥遥无期。 根据摩根士丹利最近的研报,$LITE / $COHR / $SIVE 目前在 CPO 激光器可见性方面看起来就是你最看好的前三大标的。
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@Thomus0x eh, Rosenblatt June 30 note identified AMD as the likely first $AAOI CPO customer. I wouldn't quite say they aren't remotely close. $LITE / $COHR / $SIVE just look like your top 3 right now in terms of CPO laser visibility per the recent Morgan Stanley note.
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SIVE CEO称可插拔模块将长期存在,CPO为行业方向,激光器产能是瓶颈。
不完全适用于 $AAOI(他们也在研发共封装光学(CPO),只是商业化进度稍落后)。 最近有一档名为“市场洞察:光子学与AI”的播客采访了 $SIVE 的CEO。 最有趣的观点是: “可插拔光模块在未来10年仍将存在”。 近期有很多关于CPO和RNG/MRC优化将蚕食可插拔模块总可寻址市场(TAM)的论点,但看来可插拔模块将长期存在。 而且未来会有多种架构路径并行(CEO也表示,除了CPO,非平面光学(NPO)在未来5年也是主要机会)。 至于挑战:Vickram表示,制造产能和原材料供应是主要瓶颈。这可能指的是上游连续波(CW)激光器扩产面临的现有瓶颈。 从播客来看,重点似乎放在可插拔市场,因为其短期TAM更大(考虑到 $JBL 和其他玩家,这可以理解),而CPO则是行业发展的北极星指标。 因此,如果 $SIVE 能通过并购获取更多可插拔光收发器IP(就像 $LITE 收购Cloud Light那样),可能会很有趣。 但简而言之: 未来路径多样,可插拔模块将长期存在,CPO似乎是行业发展的北极星方向。 感觉鉴于行业需求增长速度快于所有供应商的集体产能,合格的激光器供应商都有生存空间。
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Not exactly for $AAOI (they're working on CPO too, just a little further behind in commercialization). There's a podcast that featured the $SIVE CEO recently called: "Market Insights: Photonics & AI". Most interesting take was: "Pluggables will be around for the next 10 years". There's a lot of CPO + RNG/MRC optimization TAM cannablization arguments for pluggables recently, but looks like it's here to stay. And that there's going to be multiple architecture paths going forward (CEO also NPO alongside CPO as an major opportunity in the next 5 years). As for challenges: Vickram stated manufacturing capacity + availability of raw material is the main bottleneck. Likely referencing the existing bottlenecks with upstream CW laser ramp. From the podcast, seems like a large focus was on pluggable markets due to larger near-term TAM (which is understandable with $JBL + other players), with CPO being the north star. So it might be interesting if $SIVE M&A ambitions were to acquire more pluggable optical transceiver IP, like what $LITE did with Cloud Light. But TLDR: Lot of different paths moving forward, pluggable here to stay, CPO seems like North Star for where industry is heading. Feels like there's room for every qualified laser supplier given the industry demand is growing faster than what they can all collectively make.
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AI算力瓶颈从CPU扩展至全产业链,长期协议锁定需求,利好瓶颈环节投资。
$INTC 和 $AMD 将与中国客户签署针对 AI 数据中心 (AI DCs) 的 CPU 长期协议 (LTAs)(路透社)。据消息源称,年初以来部分 CPU 产品在中国的价格已上涨超过 40%。部分产品环比涨幅超过 10%。受 AI 推理 (AI inference) 的 CPU 配比影响,CPU 本身已是瓶颈。但更广泛的长期协议 (LTAs) 趋势似乎正从以下领域显现:内存方面,$MU、三星、$SNDK 和 SK 海力士签署 DRAM/NAND 长期协议;光子学方面,$LITE、$COHR 签署 EML 长期协议。且 Trendforce 近期报告称 $AMD 和超大规模云厂商正追求 CW 长期协议。我相信从 MLCC 到基板等更多领域也是如此。瓶颈投资者 +1……如果拥有跨越多年的“提货或付款”需求,很难成为“破裂的泡沫”。
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$INTC and $AMD to sign CPU LTAs with Chinese customers for AI DCs (Reuters). - Prices of some CPU products have risen more than 40% in China since the start of the year from sources. - Month-on-month increases topping 10% for some products CPUs were already a bottleneck, following CPU ratios due to AI inference... But the broader trend of LTAs seems to be appearing from: - Memory, with $MU, Samsung, $SNDK, and SK Hynix signing DRAM/NAND LTAs. - Photonics, with $LITE, $COHR signing EML LTAs. And recent Trendforce reports that $AMD and hyperscalers are now pursuing CW LTAs. And I'm sure there's many more from MLCCs to all the way to substrates. +1 for the bottleneck investors... hard to be a "bubble that pops" if you have take or pay demand spanning multiple years.
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GOOGL云业务超预期利好AI需求,支撑LITE等光网络板块。
$GOOGL 今日公布财报: 每股收益(EPS):实际 $9.11 vs 预期 $2.91 - 散户对 EPS 大幅超预期的反应某种程度上只是会计噪音,因为 $SPCX、Anthropic 等可能是主要贡献者。 营收:实际 $1197 亿 vs 预期 $1169.8 亿 Google Cloud 营收:$247.7 亿,同比 +82%,vs 预期的 63-65% ($222-$226 亿) - 这是巨大的超预期,也是目前最重要的部分。 Cloud 营业利润:~$88.1 亿,暗示利润率 35.6%,vs Q1 的 32.9%。 资本支出(Capex):$449.2 亿 vs ~$441.5 亿(基本符合预期)。 所以初步解读是 Google Cloud 增长加速且利润率扩张,这对 AI 需求确实是看多(bullish)信号。 他们此前 $180-$190 亿的资本支出指引已经非常庞大,只要我们在财报电话会 + 前瞻指引中看到围绕这些数字... 对于 $LITE 和其他光学/网络交易来说应该没问题了。(例如上次财报,他们说数据中心和网络将占资本支出的 ~40%)。 超大规模云厂商(Hyperscaler)的财报电话会记录可能是 AI 资本支出交易中最需要关注的。 那应该在 3 分钟后开始。
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$GOOGL reported earnings today: EPS: $9.11 actual vs $2.91 expected - retail reactions to EPS blowout is kinda just accounting noise, since $SPCX, Anthropic, and others were likely large contributors. Revenue: $119.7B actual vs. $116.98B expected Google Cloud Revenue: $24.77B +82% Y/Y, vs. 63-65% expected ($22.2-$22.6B) - this is a very large beat and most material part so far. Cloud Operating Income: ~$8.81B, implying 35.6% margin vs. 32.9% Q1. Capex: $44.92B vs ~$44.15B (basically in line). So initial read through is Google Cloud accelerating growth with expanding margins is genuinely bullish for AI demand. Their former $180-$190B capex guidance is already extremely large, and as long as we get around these numbers in the earnings call + forward projections... Should be good to go for $LITE and the other optics/networking trade. (eg. last earnings, they said DC and networking would be ~40% of capex spend). Hyperscaler earnings transcripts are probably the most important thing to pay attention to with the AI capex trade. And that should be in 3 minutes.
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博主惊叹半导体板块创纪录的单日强劲反弹行情。
哇,创纪录的单日反弹。 $SIVEF +30.89% $IQEF +28.6% $AEHR +26.53% $CIFR +17.82% $NBIS +17.3% $AAOI +15.6% $LPK +14.48% $AXTI +14.12% $MU +12.54% $SNDK +12.8% $SOI +11.1% $TSEM +10.39% $LITE +9.25% $INTC +8.22% $AMD +8.11% $MRVL +7.27%
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Wow, a historic single day recovery. $SIVEF +30.89% $IQEF +28.6% $AEHR +26.53% $CIFR +17.82% $NBIS +17.3% $AAOI +15.6% $LPK +14.48% $AXTI +14.12% $MU +12.54% $SNDK +12.8% $SOI +11.1% $TSEM +10.39% $LITE +9.25% $INTC +8.22% $AMD +8.11% $MRVL +7.27%