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  1. 供应链分析 $AAOI$AXTI$LITE$SIVE

    LITE财报证实CPO 27H2放量,CW激光供需失衡且中国厂商落后。

    $LITE 财报电话会要点: - “我们对共封装光学(CPO)规模化部署的时间表可见度已提高。我们确信,2027年下半年我们的超高功率激光芯片需求将强劲增长。” Lumentum 确认其领先客户将于 2027 年下半年启动 CPO 规模化放量。 - “我们最近获得了首个外部光源(ELS)模块订单,将于 2027 年下半年交付。” ELS 行业放量时间表。 - “非平面光学(NPO)机会对我们完全是增量,显著增加了光学市场的总规模(TAM)。” 激光瓶颈俱乐部的 TAM 进一步扩大。 - “我们预计 1.6T 光模块的采用将从财年第一季度开始加速,并持续至 2027 年。” - “即使在连续波(CW)激光领域,我们对自己提价的能力也感到惊讶。” $SIVE 及其他 CW 激光玩家拥有积极的定价权。 - “因此,我们能够获得可观的价格溢价,并预计这种溢价将维持下去,即使这些中国厂商上线。我也提醒人们,我认为一些中国激光供应商目前并未在市场上实际交付,所以当它们抛出那些大数字时,没有追索权。迄今为止,我们在其产出方面尚未看到类似情况。” 中国厂商在激光/产能方面落后于市场预期,得到 $AAOI 和 $LITE 的证实。 - “不幸的是,我们在高功率激光的发货上远远落后。” “需求信号增加,相对于我们的供应能力,我们更加落后。” 超高功率(UHP) CW 激光产能存在极端供需失衡,EML 需求持续失衡。年底发货约 +5000 万美元 -> 1 亿美元+(“三位数季度”),进入 2027 年下半年和 2028 年更大的规模化需求。 - “所以,我认为过去三个月我们真正试图做的是确保更多的衬底供应”(因为供需失衡),“我们从 $AXTI 找到了额外的衬底帮助。他们是伟大的合作伙伴。” 磷化铟(InP)衬底瓶颈出现。 要点总结: - Lumentum 确认 CPO 2027 年下半年放量,驳斥任何“延迟”新闻为市场“噪音”。(一份延迟报告造成了巨大损害,Nvidia、Lumentum 等公司花了数周进行危机公关)。 - CW 激光需求在 2027 年下半年放量。 - 超高功率 CW 激光产能的极端供需失衡让 Lumentum 感到惊讶。 - 超高功率激光拥有极高利润率,并能对 CW 激光产能提价。 - 中国在激光/产能方面进一步落后。 基本上验证了西方 CW 激光玩家的时间表 + 需求/定价。 在主要放量开始之前,CW 激光的稀缺性已经发生……

    英文原文

    $LITE earnings transcript TLDRs: - "Our visibility into the timing of CPO scale-up deployments has also sharpened. We remain confident in a demand ramp for our ultra-high-power laser chips in the second half of calendar 2027" H2 2027 start of CPO scale up ramp confirmed from Lumentum for their lead customer. - "We were recently given our first external light source, or ELS, module purchase for delivery by the second half of calendar 2027" ELS industry ramp timelines - "The NPO opportunity is completely additive for us, significantly increasing the optical TAM." More TAM for laser chokepoint club - "we expect the 1.6T transceiver uptake to intensify starting in fiscal Q1 and sustain through calendar 2027." - "Even in CW, we’ve been surprised at our ability to price up" Positive pricing power for $SIVE and the other CW laser players. - "As a result, we are able to command a nice price premium that we expect to sustain, as these Chinese if these Chinese guys come online. I caution people also, I think people are some of these Chinese laser suppliers are not delivering in the market today, so they have there is no recourse when they throw out these big numbers. We have not seen anything like that to date in terms of their output." Chinese players are more behind than markets expect, corroborated by $AAOI and $LITE. - "We are way behind in our shipments, unfortunately, on high-powered lasers" "The demand signal has increased, and we are very much further behind relative to our ability to supply." Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity, continued demand imbalance for EML. Shipping roughly +$50M year end -> $100m+ ("triple digit quarter") into much larger H2 2027 and 2028 scale up demand,. - "So what we are trying to do, I think, really in the last three months is secure even more substrate supply" (because of demand imbalance), "we found additional substrate help from $AXTI They are a great partner." Hello InP substrate bottleneck. TLDR: - Lumentum CPO scale up H2 2027 shipments got confirmed, dismissed any "delay" news as market "noise". (one delay report caused so much damage, and it took Nvidia, Lumentum, and all these companies weeks to do damage control). - CW lasers demand ramp second half of 2027 - Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity surprised Lumentum - UHP lasers commands very high margins and is able to price up CW laser capacity. - China further behind in the laser/capacity angle. Basically just validated timelines + demand/pricing for Western CW laser players. CW laser scarcity is already happening before the main volume ramp even begins...

  2. 方法论 $AAOI$LITE$SIVE

    引用研究指出低频交易优于过度交易,建议散户保持信念避免恐慌抛售。

    现在市场又在举办激光派对,从 $SIVE、OE Solutions、$LITE、Coherent 到 $AAOI。有一项有趣的研究:富达(Fidelity)和加州大学伯克利分校(UC Berkeley)的论文都指出,表现最好的投资者通常是那些…… - 偶然忘记账户的人(富达) - 不主动交易/不过度交易的人(低频交易者回报18.5% vs 11.4%)。 这不是建议,但这些轶事可能对散户阅读有帮助…… 因为我目睹了记忆、光子学或主题波动性的大量投降式抛售,导致散户在强劲反弹时没有持仓。 拥有信念通常也属于“不过度交易”阵营,因为这有助于在下跌时不过度交易,或看到补仓机会。

    英文原文

    Now that markets are hosting a laser party again from $SIVE, OE Solutions, $LITE, Coherent, to $AAOI. There’s a pretty interesting study: Both from Fidelity and a UC Berkeley research paper, that the best investors are the ones who either… - Anecdotally forgot about their account (Fidelity) - Didn’t actively trade/overtrade (18.5% return from infrequent traders vs. 11.4%). Not any advice, but some of these anecdotes might be helpful to retail to read in general… Since I witnessed a lot capitulation off memory, photonics, or thematic volatility, just for retail not have positions on a sharp recovery. Having conviction also usually people in that “not overtrading” camp, since it helps to not overtrade in drops or see opportunities to cost average.

  3. 个股论点 $AAOI$AEVA$GFS$JBL$MTSI$POET$SIVE

    看好SIVE获代工产能及上市融资,预期2027H1收入拐点。

    @wannabepanacea 鉴于目前业界普遍传闻共封装光学(CPO)中的分布式反馈激光器(DFB)短缺,我其实挺好奇 $SIVE 能否获得更多晶圆代工产能分配。因为我相当确信,一旦其资格认证进入量产爬坡阶段,产品就会售罄。除此之外: > 其他财报(如 $MTSI / $AAOI)重申的需求/供应失衡有助于佐证这一点。 > 上一份财报中提到的与可插拔(Pluggable)玩家的新进展/资格认证,可能是影响最大的因素。 > 与 $JBL、~ $AEVA、$POET、$GFS 或其他机会的进展,如果能获得初步采购订单(PO)那就太好了。 > 重申纳斯达克上市更新(我们已经得到消息,计划在未来几个季度完成)。我个人仍将此列为优先事项,因为它能为其并购(M&A)活动解锁更多资金,希望用于可插拔技术栈。 我认为收入拐点大约在 2027 年上半年开始,因此当前的收入/利润数据并不重要。 如果 $AAOI 能发表类似“我们制造的任何东西都预计在 2028 年售罄”的声明,那就太棒了。

    英文原文

    @wannabepanacea I’m actually kinda curious about $SIVE securing more foundry allocation given widespread CW DFB shortages now. Since I’m pretty confident it sells out once qualifications go into volume ramp. But aside from that > reaffirm demand/supply imbalance from other earnings like $MTSI / $AAOI helps > new development/qualifications mentioned in previous earnings with pluggable players, probably most material > Progress with $JBL, ~ $AEVA, $POET, $GFS or other opportunities, maybe initial POs would be nice. > Nasdaq listing update reiterated (we already got updates it’s planned completion next few quarters). I still place that on priority personally since it unlocks more funding for their M&A efforts, hopefully down the pluggable stack. I think the revenue inflection starts around H1 2027, so current revenue/profit numbers are not very material. An $AAOI statement like anything we make we expect to be sold in 2028 or something would be kinda goated.

  4. 个股论点 $SIVE

    SIVE撤回收购案,从激光瓶颈扩大TAM,博主预期更高。

    @softmaxedx 这只是激光阵列产能建模。看多逻辑是 $SIVE 撤回其 Cloud Light 收购案,并从激光瓶颈处扩大总可寻址市场(TAM)。我个人预期更高,但大家可以自行估值。

    英文原文

    @softmaxedx This is just laser array capacity modeling. The bull case is $SIVE pulling their own Cloud Light acquisition and multiplying TAM starting from the laser chokepoint. I have much higher expectations personally, but people can make their own valuation estimates. https://t.co/sS372W0SYR

  5. 供应链分析 $AAOI$MTSI$SIVE

    InP激光器短缺利好SIVE,可套用AAOI产能模型。

    我认为现在是重新审视 $SIVE 的时机,其年化产能收入的中位预测约为 4.27 亿美元。 鉴于近期的行业财报: > $AAOI 指出光模块(transceivers)需求存在 20-40% 的失衡(激光器是瓶颈)。 > $MTSI 表示许多“客户因磷化铟(InP)DFB 激光器普遍短缺而紧急联系我们”(在其他产品线中)。 > 美国提议禁止新的中国光模块(中际旭创/新易盛)。 > AOI 因激光器被分配给光模块,未实质性参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署。 解读是:可以将适用于 $AAOI 的产能-需求吸收模型,同样应用于 Sivers 等其他激光器厂商。 鉴于 InP CW DFB 产能的广泛短缺和需求失衡。

    英文原文

    I think it’s a good time to revisit $SIVE ~$427m/yr midpoint capacity revenue modeled projections. Given recent industry earnings: > $AAOI cited +20-40% demand imbalance for transceivers (with lasers as the bottleneck). > $MTSI saying many "Customers are coming to us with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers" (in other product lines) > US proposal ban on new Chinese optical transceivers (Innolight/Eoptolink) > AOI no meaningful participation in first-gen CPO deployments due to lasers being allocated toward transceivers. The read through is that it’s possible to apply the same capacity-demand absorption modeling applying to $AAOI, but for other laser players like Sivers too. Given the widespread shortage and demand imbalance for InP CW DFB capacity.

  6. 供应链分析 $AAOI$AMD$LITE$SIVE

    Rosenblatt 光通信调研精准,AAOI 财报证实中国 CPO 激光器落后。

    我通常喜欢调侃卖方分析师,但 Rosenblatt 对光通信标的的渠道调研(Channel Checks)确实非常出色,他们的报告是我少数愿意讨论的。$AAOI、$LITE、$SIVE 以及激光板块已开始在其预估的时间窗口内恢复。例如,上个月他们提到:“多位空头表示他们可能会在 7 月底和 8 月初平仓”。他们可能误判了 $AMD 会是 $AAOI 的首个共封装光学(CPO) 客户……因为 AAOI 表示他们将缺席第一代 CPO(也许是未来几代?)。但他们关于中国 CPO 激光器定位(例如落后 2-3 年)的许多观点,今天被 AAOI 的财报逐字证实了。

    英文原文

    I usually make fun of sellside, but Rosenblatt has pretty goated channel checks on optical names, and their reports are one of the few I like talking about. $AAOI, $LITE, $SIVE, and the laser party has started to recover around the est. timing windows. eg. last month: "Multiple short sellers told them they will likely close their positions... late July and early August". They might have missed that they believed $AMD would be $AAOI's first CPO customer... since AAOI said they would be missing from first-gen CPO (maybe future gen?) But lot of their talking points about China CPO laser positioning (eg. 2-3 years behind) got corroborated word-for-word from AAOI earnings today.

  7. 个股论点 $LITE$SIVE

    看好SIVE激光资产潜力,预期其分拆光模块业务并上市。

    @vas_203 呃,鉴于其激光资产极具吸引力,我不希望 $SIVE 被收购。因为我看到它有潜力成为下一个 $LITE。 老实说,剥离出光引擎(OE)解决方案、完整的光收发器业务,或者类似从一家陷入困境的私营初创公司中分拆出来的业务,可能会很有趣。 我猜测这会在未来几个季度纳斯达克上市之后发生。我认为CEO知道该怎么做,所以我只是一路跟随。

    英文原文

    @vas_203 Uhh I don’t want $SIVE to be acquired given how attractive their laser assets are. Since I see potential for them end up as the next $LITE. Honestly carving out OE solutions complete optical transceiver business or something similar that’s distressed from a private startup might be interesting. My guess is it comes after Nasdaq listing within next few quarters or so. I think the CEO knows what to do, so I’m just tagging along for the ride.

  8. 供应链分析 $LITE$SIVE

    Sivers需向下游拓展以扩大市场,因向下游比向上游更容易。

    @homeboyrichie 目前确实如此,因为 Lumilens 拥有直接的超大规模客户和数十亿美元的采购协议。而 $SIVE 是一家上游激光器供应商。Sivers 需要向下游拓展,通过销售光引擎、ELS 或像 $LITE 在并购 Cloud Light 后那样销售完整的光模块,以捕获更大的总可服务市场(TAM)。我的观点是,鉴于合格的激光器供应商数量有限,向下游拓展比向上游更容易。

    英文原文

    @homeboyrichie For now yes, because Lumilens has a direct hyperscaler customer and multi-billion dollar purchase agreements. While $SIVE is an upstream laser supplier. Sivers needs to work its way downstream to capture more TAM with selling optical engines, ELS, or complete optical transceivers like $LITE did after M&A eg. Cloud Light. My opinion is that it’s easier to move downstream than upstream as you seen with the limited amount of qualified laser suppliers out there.

  9. 供应链分析 $POET$SIVE

    Lumilens高估值确认光互连上游POET/SIVE价值,博主加仓POET。

    今天早些时候,光互连公司 Lumilens 以 55 亿美元估值“结束隐身模式”,此前已融资 7 亿美元。 正如我之前分享的 $POET / $SIVE LinkedIn OSINT 映射回顾,Lumilens 正在为一家前三超大规模云服务商客户供货。 因此,一个月后我们确认了这一点,并得知 Lumilens 拥有“数十亿美元的客户协议”。 仅供参考,$POET 与 Lumilens 有现有合同(5000 万美元采购订单,最高 5 亿美元)+ 与 $SIVE 的合同(取决于产品线)。 在阅读此新闻后,我再次在 POET 上建立了少量头寸,因为它终于让他们看到了资金极其充裕的超大规模云服务商供应商(加上 Poet 非常庞大的资产负债表)。 但简而言之: > Lumilens 估值与 Lightmatter/Ayar 相当(甚至更高),拥有超大规模云服务商客户,规模比市场预期的要大。 > 对上游 $POET(去风险化)/ $SIVE 的利好传导。 > 对光互连估值整体有利,看到一家公司在 2 年内达到 55 亿美元。

    英文原文

    Earlier today, optical interconnect company Lumilens "emerges from stealth" at a $5.5B valuation, after raising $700m. Just as a recap from $POET / $SIVE Linkedin OSINT mapping I shared earlier, Lumilens was supplying a top 3 hyperscaler customer. So we got confirmation of that a month later, along with the material figure that Lumilens has a "multi-billion-dollar customer agreement". And just for reference, $POET has existing contracts with Lumilens ($50m purchase order, up to $500m) + contracts with $SIVE (depending on product lines). I actually took tiny positions in POET again after reading this news, since it finally gives them visibility into extremely well funded hyperscaler suppliers (on top of Poet's really large balance sheet). But TLDR: > Lumilens around similar (or even higher) valuations as Lightmatter/Ayar, bigger than markets thought with hyperscaler customers. > nice read through upstream on $POET (derisking) / $SIVE. > Great for optical valuations in general, seeing a company go to $5.5B in 2 years.

  10. AAOI财报揭示CPO激光器产能瓶颈,利好少数西方厂商,中国技术落后数年。

    哇,$AAOI 的财报中对于 $SIVE 及其他激光器玩家来说,利好一个接一个。 1. $AAOI 并未实质性参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署。 “我们根本无法生产足够的[CPO激光器]来参与他们当前的一代[CPO]部署,因为产能根本不够。我们必须优先保障自有光模块的激光器供应。” 因此,第一代CPO激光器的部署范围可能会进一步缩小,仅限于$SIVE、$LITE、$AVGO和$COHR等西方厂商。 如果$AAOI不得不拒绝更多客户,独立的CPO连续波(CW)激光器产能将变得更有价值。 还要记得Trendforce曾提到$AMD签署了CW长期协议(LTA)?$COHR/$LITE已与$NVDA签署了产能协议…… 我原以为是$AAOI,但他们可能出局了。$MTSI在早期CPO参与中也不显眼(除了NPO外财报未提及,且从Ayar网站移除)。 所以我在想$AMD在Helios项目中会与谁合作(例如Sivers+Ayar现在更可能是候选者)? 顺便说一句,这对$AAOI并非看空,因为他们光模块业务需求旺盛。只是对少数有产能的合格CPO激光器厂商更加看多。 2. 磷化铟(InP)激光器/光模块的需求失衡与瓶颈。 AOI CEO的话某种程度上证实了这一点:“客户需求比扩建后的产能高出20%-40%。” “我们几乎每周都从几家大客户那里收到这种需求。激光器目前是光模块业务最大的瓶颈。” 3. 中国在CPO波分复用(DWDM)规格激光器方面落后数年。 我之前在渠道调研CPO竞争时曾覆盖过这一点。 但$AAOI确认中国“至少落后两三年甚至更久”才能拥有CPO激光器,这极大地印证了西方激光器在CPO激光器卡脖子环节上的防御性地位。 总结: - CW激光器和光模块需求严重失衡。 - $AAOI因产能限制未进入第一代CPO(对$AAOI不算看空,因其光模块需求旺盛,但对$SIVE等少数有产能的独立厂商更是利好)。 - 中国在CPO激光器方面落后数年。

    英文原文

    Wow, there's gem after gem in $AAOI earnings for $SIVE + other laser player readthrough. 1. AAOI not meaningfully participating in CPO first-gen deployments. "We just can’t make enough of them [CPO lasers] to be involved in their current first-generation [CPO] deployments because there’s just not enough capacity. We have to prioritize our ability to make lasers for our own transceivers first" So first-gen CPO laser deployments, might even be narrowed down further for Western players like $SIVE, $LITE, $AVGO, and $COHR. And independent CPO CW laser capacity became more valuable if $AAOI had to turn away more customers... Also remember Trendforce was talking about $AMD singing CW LTAs? $COHR / $LITE have capacity signed with $NVDA ... I thought it would be $AAOI, but they might be out of the equation. $MTSI also doesn't look meaningful with early CPO participation (eg. no mention in ER aside from NPO, and removal from Ayar website). So I wonder who players like $AMD is going to go with for Helios (eg. Sivers + Ayar more likely candidate now)? Btw, this is not bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for optical transceiver business. Just more bullish on the existing few qualified CPO laser names that have capacity. 2. Demand imbalance and bottleneck for InP lasers / optical transceivers. AOI's CEO stated kinda supported that when they said: "The customer demand is 20%-40% higher" than expanded built out capacity. "We are getting this kind of demand from several big customers almost every week. Lasers are the biggest bottleneck right now for the transceiver business" 3. China being years away from having CPO DWDM specification lasers. I covered this earlier when looking at CPO competition from channel checks. But AAOI confirming that China is "easily at least two, three years or even longer from having CPO lasers is incredible tread through on defensibility Western laser positioning in the CPO laser chokepoint. TLDR: - High demand imbalance for CW lasers and optical transceivers. - $AAOI not in first-gen CPO due to capacity constraints (not exactly bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for their optical transciver business, but even better news for the few independent players with capacity coming online like $SIVE) - China years behind in CPO lasers.

  11. 供应链分析 $LITE$MTSI$SIVE

    MTSI财报证实磷化铟DFB激光器短缺,利好SIVE和LITE。

    $MTSI 财报电话会议记录: “由于磷化铟分布反馈(DFB)激光器普遍供应短缺,客户正迫切地向我们寻求解决方案。” 重点在于“迫切”、“连续波(CW) DFB激光器”以及“向我们寻求”。 像 $SIVE 和 $LITE 这样的连续波 DFB 概念股,听到这一激光器瓶颈得到验证应该会很高兴。

    英文原文

    $MTSI earnings transcript: "Customers are coming to us with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers" Emphasis on "Urgency", CW "DFB lasers", "coming to us". CW DFB names, such as like $SIVE and $LITE should be happy to hear about this laser bottleneck getting validated.

  12. 供应链分析 $AAOI$LITE$SIVE

    InP激光器产能严重不足,看好新增独立产能标的。

    @_king142 $LITE 首席执行官表示,即使其 5 座磷化铟(InP)激光器晶圆厂投产,出货量仍将低于客户需求 30% 以上。(甚至比当前的内存短缺更严重) $AAOI 也表达了类似的观点,缺口在 20-40% 之间。 我猜测 InP 衬底和激光器都将成为 2027 年最严重的瓶颈之一。 这就是为什么我非常看重任何新增的独立产能,无论是 $SIVE 与 Win 的合作还是 $AAOI。

    英文原文

    @_king142 $LITE CEO said even as their 5 InP laser fabs come online, shipments would be 30%+ below customer demand. (and worse than the current memory shortage) $AAOI said something similiar with a 20-40% figure. My guess is that InP substrates and lasers both will be one of the most severe bottlenecks in 2027. Which is why I place a lot of value on any independent capacity that comes online whether it's $SIVE with Win or $AAOI.

  13. 供应链分析 $AAOI$AVGO$COHR$JBL$LITE$SIVE

    AAOI财报验证光模块需求远超供应,产能爬坡中,看好板块传导。

    以下是关于 $AAOI 财报的简要要点: - 预计超大规模客户将在未来几周内完成 1.6T 产品的全面认证(有助于收入爬坡 #2,时间线) - 继续认为 AOI 将拥有美国最大的 AI 数据中心光收发器产能(在竞争对手可能被禁时期重申雄心) - 预计磷化铟(InP)产能设施将于 2027 年初投产(进一步爬坡的时间线参考) - 总产能接近每月 20 万颗/单位,年底 800G/1.6T 达 65 万颗/单位。2027 年底达 93 万颗/单位(这是我想要看到的爬坡) - “增加外部光源(ELSFP)的制造产能。这是用于共封装光学(CPO)的”。我们预计今年晚些时候及 2027 年扩大生产,最终在 2028 年达到每月约 40 万件(需要时间将其建模为收入) - “如前所述,我们多年来一直内部制造激光器。这使我们避免了影响行业其他公司的短缺”(CW/EML 激光器短缺期间的垂直整合看多逻辑) - 我们相信未来 CPO 将继续推动对高功率激光器的需求增加(CPO 板块论点验证) - “长期目标是将非公认会计准则毛利率恢复到 40% 左右” - “第二季度末现金等价物总计 5.088 亿美元” 我需要再次确认 ATM 是否完成 - “我们交付收入的能力,特别是 800G 产品,目前受限于我们的生产能力”“如果我们能生产更多,我们现在就能发货更多” 需求 > 供应验证。 - “大部分增加的产能将在美国。即便如此,让我说,正如我一直强调的,这还不足以应对客户需求。客户需求高出 20%-40%。” 整个板块的光子学需求验证惊人,阅读 $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL 等公司的传导效应令人惊叹。 - “在未来两三年内不会,尤其是需求如此之大。好吧?即使结合 AI,$LITE, $COHR, $AVGO 加在一起,未来几年满足客户需求仍然非常困难” 更多光通信板块需求验证。 - CPO 时间线:“如果你说的是 CPO 市场的高产量制造商,我会说是明年第三季度末左右”以及“我们已与至少五家客户密切合作” 如果你关心当前财报(我并没有仔细看) 营收:1.91 亿美元 vs 1.90 亿美元 每股收益:0.06 美元 vs 0.02 美元 简而言之:激光器 + 光通信板块需求传导非凡。某种程度上支持 Lumentum CEO 关于激光器短缺比内存短缺更严重的说法。 2027 年产能爬坡按计划进行。要映射拐点期与时间线,大约在明年年初,正如他们之前的财报电话会议所述。 AAOI 现在拥有客户。限制在于制造足够的激光器和收发器。

    英文原文

    Just some TLDR notes on $AAOI earnings: - Expects full qualification of 1.6T products by their hyperscaler customer within next couple of weeks (helpful revenue ramp #2, timelines) - Continues to believe that AOI will have the largest AI DC transceiver production capacity in the US (reiterating ambitions during a time when their competitors might get banned) - Expects facilities toward InP capacity to come online in early 2027 (timeline FYI in terms of further ramp) - Total capacity is approaching 200,000/u per month, EOY 650,000/u per month of 800g/1.6t. EOY 2027, 930,000/u (this is the ramp i want to see) - "increase our manufacturing capacity for our external light source or ELSFP. That's for co-packaged optics or CPO". we anticipate ramping production later this year and into 2027, ultimately culminating in about 400,000 pieces per month in 2028 (need some time to model this into revenue) - "As we have mentioned before, we've been manufacturing lasers internally for many years. This has allowed us to avoid some of the shortages that have affected others in the industry" (vertical integration bull case during CW/EML laser shortages) - We believe that in the future, CPO will continue to drive increased demand for high-power lasers (thesis validation on CPO sector) - "to our long-term objective of returning non-GAAP gross margins to around 40%" - "We ended the second quarter with $508.8 million in total cash equivalents" I need to double check if the ATM finished or not - "our ability to deliver revenue in general, and specifically when it comes to 800G products, is limited by our production capacity right now" "If we could produce more, we could ship more right now" Demand > Supply validation. - "Most of the increased capacity will be in U.S. Even so, let me say that, like I keep emphasizing, that is not good enough for the customer demand. The customer demand is 20%-40% higher." Unholy photonics demand validation across the whole sector, read through for $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL, and others is amazing. - "Not in the next two, three years, especially the demand is so big. Okay? Even combined AI, $LITE, $COHR, $AVGO all together, it's still very tough to meet the customer demand in the next few years" More optical sector demand validation. - CPO Timelines: "If you're talking about really high volume manufacturer [for CPO market], I would say more like the late Q3 next year" and "We have been working very close with at least five customer" If you care about current earnings (which I'm not really looking at closely) Revenue: $191M vs. $190m EPS: $.06 vs. $.02 TLDR: Extraordinary demand across the laser + optical sector read through. Kinda supporting Lumentum CEO statement that laser shortage is worse than memory shortages. 2027 capacity ramp on track. To map inflection period with timelines, would be around early next year, as stated in their previous earnings call. AAOI has the customers now. Limitation is making enough lasers and transceivers.

  14. 供应链分析 $AAOI$COHR$JBL$LITE$SIVE

    禁令利好西方光模块厂商,AAOI等1.6T+玩家受益。

    @Lseperlee 对我来说,$AAOI 是 2027 年上半年末的放量玩家,因为大约那时他们将达到每月 4.71 亿美元营收预测的拐点。近期起草的禁止英诺赛科(Innolight)等公司新光模块的光模块禁令,增加了 $AAOI、$SIVE/$JBL、$LITE、$COHR 等公司在 1.6T+ 项目上的权重。尤其是如果该禁令在 2026 年最终确定。由于可能会出现价格上涨,且需求将更集中于少数西方玩家产能。

    英文原文

    @Lseperlee $AAOI is an end of H1 2027 volume ramp player for me, since around then is when they hit inflection point of $471m/month revenue projections. Recent drafted ban on new optical transceivers coming from Innolight and others, increase weight on players like AAOI, $SIVE / $JBL, $LITE, $COHR for their 1.6T+ programs as well. Especially if finalized in 2026. Since there's likely going to be price hikes, and more demand concentration over capacity from the select few Western players.

  15. 供应链分析 $AEVA$SIVE

    Aeva切入CPO/NPO光源领域,利好上游激光器供应商Sivers。

    本周的意外之事……是 $AEVA 成为共封装光学(CPO)/近封装光学(NPO) 光源玩家。 背景:$SIVE 被视为向 Aeva(以激光雷达闻名)供应连续波分布反馈(CW DFB) 激光器的高确定性供应商。 今天,Aeva 盘后大涨 18.26%,回应了与一家光学引擎厂商签署联合开发协议(JDA) 的消息,该协议将在 2027 年下半年部署于某大型超大规模数据中心,并于 2028 年量产爬坡。 “光互联将利用这一基础,结合 Aeva 现有的大规模制造和晶圆代工供应链”用于: - ELSFP(类似 O-Net/Enablence + $SIVE),Sivers 可能是 CW 激光器及潜在放大器供应商 - 片上集成光源(架构/集成方面可能是 $SIVE DFB + Aeva PIC) 简而言之:Aeva 在 CPO/NPO 领域获得新总可服务市场(TAM) 和超大规模数据中心项目,对 $SIVE 等上游供应商构成利好传导。

    英文原文

    The unexpected thing of the week... Was $AEVA becoming a CPO/NPO optical source player. For background: $SIVE is viewed as the high confidence CW DFB laser supplier to Aeva (which is known for lidar). Today, Aeva reacted with +18.26% AH on news that they signed a JDA with an optical engine player for deployment at a major hyperscaler in H2 2027, production ramp 2028. "Optical Connectivity will leverage that foundation along with Aeva’s EXISTING high-volume manufacturing and foundry supply chain" for: - ELSFP (similar to O-Net/Enablence + $SIVE), with Sivers as the likely CW laser + potential amplifier supplier - On-chip integrated light source (likely $SIVE DFB + Aeva PIC on the architecture/integration side) TLDR: New TAM and a hyperscaler programs for Aeva for CPO/NPO, positive read through for upstream suppliers like $SIVE.

  16. 供应链分析 $AAOI$LITE$SIVE

    特朗普拟禁中国光模块,利好西方供应链分化。

    西方供应链迎来了一个非常实质性的催化剂,涉及 $AAOI、$SIVE/Jabil、$LITE 和 Coherent:特朗普政府正在起草一项禁令,禁止新的中国光模块(Optical Transceivers)和直流(DC)设备。这可能会打击中国的中际旭创(Innolight)、新易盛(Eoptolink)以及其他中国光互连(Optical Interconnect)供应链。“该机构将禁止所有新型光模块的进口,然后豁免许多非中国供应商的限制。”我们可能会看到供应链出现更大的分化,西方玩家的重要性将进一步提升。

    英文原文

    A very material catalyst came about for Western supply chains from $AAOI, $SIVE / Jabil, to $LITE and Coherent: The Trump administration is drafting a ban of new Chinese optical transceivers and DC devices. Which would likely hit China’s Innolight, Eoptolink, and other Chinese optical interconnect supply chains. "The agency would ban all imports of new transceiver models ​and then exempt many ⁠non-Chinese suppliers from the restrictions" We'll likely see a larger bifurcation of supply chains with even greater importance put on Western players.

  17. 个股论点 $AAOI$COHR$LITE$SIVE

    AI激光器供应危机加剧,验证AAOI等标的瓶颈逻辑。

    $LITE CEO Michael Hurlston 在 RAISE 峰会上警告称,AI 数据中心(AI DCs)用磷化铟(InP)激光器的供应缺口: 正面临比存储芯片更严重的供应链危机。 凭借 Lumentum 的 5 座 InP 晶圆厂,其出货量将比客户需求低 30% 以上。 这在目前的电吸收调制激光器(EMLs)上尤为明显,但随着共封装光学(CPO)的推进,已扩展至连续波(CW)激光器。 我一直看好 $AAOI、$SIVE、$LITE 和 $COHR 带来的激光器卡脖子+瓶颈逻辑。很高兴这一论点开始得到验证。

    英文原文

    $LITE CEO Michael Hurlston at the RAISE Summit warned that the supply gap for InP lasers for AI DCs: Is facing a more severe supply chain crisis than memory. And with Lumentum's 5 InP fabs, shipments would be more than 30%+ below customer demand. This is especially visible with EMLs today but is already expanding to CW, especially as CPO ramps. I've always been a fan of the laser chokepoint + bottleneck from $AAOI, $SIVE, $LITE, and $COHR. And glad this thesis is starting to see validation.

  18. 供应链分析 $AAOI$AMD$FORM$SIVE

    博主澄清CPO延迟谣言,认为亚洲股错杀,看好MSSCorp及早期受益股。

    @Erick_P23 核心逻辑更偏向于共封装光学(CPO)的规模化,预计其复杂性将使MSSCorp成为检测良率方面的垄断型瓶颈(他们声称目标市场份额为90%)。尽管这些技术也可用于其他领域。 $FORM 的产能爬坡早了很多,所以下次财报中营收可能会开始显现? 无论如何,亚洲概念股因CPO时间表延迟的报道而大幅抛售,但我通过$AMD 大会上的渠道核实发现该报道不实。 我认为我的观点没有改变,更多的是在等待2027年。 像Shunsin这样拥有更多确认的规模化交换机出货量,以及像 $AAOI / $SIVE 这样的激光概念股,其产能爬坡要早得多。在我看来,这只是时间线的问题,以及市场何时愿意对此进行定价。

    英文原文

    @Erick_P23 Thesis is more for CPO scale up expecting complexity making make MSSCorp a monopoly-type chokepoint over inspection yields (they were claiming 90% market share target). Although they can be used for other segments. $FORM ramped a lot earlier, so maybe will revenue would start to appear in next earnings? Regardless, Asian names sold off extremely hard on CPO timeline delay report that I found to be incorrect with my channel checks at the $AMD conference. Don't think my views have changed, it's moreso waiting for 2027. Names with more confirmed scale-out switch volumes like Shunsin + laser names like $AAOI / $SIVE ramp a lot earlier. It's just timelines in my view and when markets want to price that in.

  19. 博主分享近期因财报或市场波动对多只AI供应链个股的加仓操作及资金调配逻辑。

    @RockyKh49376975 嗯,我个人在40多美元时加仓了$AMKR,因为我认为在$NVDA 15亿美元交易+$TSM 10年协议后,财报后跌这么多令人惊讶。不过它更多是2028年的标的,尽管2027年有独立的爬坡计划。- 在Foci跌至400时做了成本平均($TSM COUPE共封装光学+ $NVDA的主要FAU供应商,其他财报如$FORM显示COUPE现在开始爬坡)。财报后也加仓了一些$XFAB,因为他们验证了CPO共封装光学+800V曝光,不过可能需要等待一段时间。在13 EU末日暴跌时加仓了$LPK,GCS不会消失,我认为由于Absolics延迟,出货量爬坡仅推迟了一个季度,我愿意等3个月。CoPoS、三星等应该在2027年推动更多需求。在OE Solutions跌至约14,000韩元时加仓,认为韩国领先的EML公司且拥有独立InP晶圆厂市值仅约1.1亿美元很奇怪。- Win Semi等名字对我非常有吸引力,但可惜没有足够资金在不使用高杠杆的情况下加仓。可能想逐步建仓$SIVE和$AAOI,因为那是我的两个最爱。鉴于Unitree IPO还有3周左右,正在关注$CCXI的机会,该上市应该像$SPCX的光环效应一样提振人形机器人板块。TLDR:只是资金调配,我个人的风险管理。标的与之前相同。

    英文原文

    @RockyKh49376975 Hmm, I personally added $AMKR in the $40's since I thought it was surprising it dropped that much after ER, even after $NVDA $1.5B deal + $TSM 10Y agreement. It's more of a 2028 name though, though they have separate ramps in 2027. - Did some cost averaging on names like Foci on drop to 400 (leading FAU supplier to $TSM COUPE + $NVDA, COUPE shows signs of ramp now from other ERs like $FORM). Added some $XFAB too after earnings since they verified CPO + 800V exposure, might be a bit of waiting though. Added $LPK on the 13 EU doomdrop, GCS isn't going anywhere, think volume ramp just got delayed a quarter because of Absolics delay and I'm fine waiting 3 months. CoPoS, Samsung, and others should drive demand more in 2027. And added OE Solutions on drop to ~14,000 KRW, thought it was strange Korea's leading EML company with independent InP fabs was only worth ~$110M MC. - Names like Win Semi + others are really really compelling to me but just dont have enough capital to add sadly without going on heavy margin. Probably want to scale into $SIVE and $AAOI more since those are my two favorites. And looking at $CCXI opportunities given Unitree IPO is around 3 weeks, that listing should boost humanoid/robotics sector a bit similar to the $SPCX halo effect. TLDR: Just moving capital around, my own personal risk management. Same names as before.

  20. 供应链分析 $JBL$POET$SIVE

    POET与Sivers合作加速,2027H1订单落地,验证CPO等新技术拐点临近。

    仔细想想,$POET 的光学中介层(optical interposer)业务与 $SIVE 的关联比我想象的更重要。起初措辞是2026年底的“准备就绪”,但 $POET 将其升级为与 Sivers 激光器合作的“量产”,预计2026年底实现。因此,从 $JBL 到 $POET 的批量订单应在2027年上半年落地。这很合理,因为 Sivers 已完成超认购的机构轮融资以支持未来大规模生产。顺便一提,难以置信已是八月,距2027年仅剩5个月……这是我预判玻璃基板、共封装光学(CPO)、800V 及新架构开始放量的拐点窗口。

    英文原文

    Now that I think of it more, $POET optical interposer piece is actually a little more material than I thought with $SIVE. Originally the wording was "readiness" for EOY 2026. But $POET upgraded that wording, by stating "production" with Sivers lasers projected EOY 2026. So a volume orders from across $JBL to $POET, should hit in H1 2027. Which makes a bit of sense, since Sivers did raise an institutional oversubscribed round for future mass production. On a side note, can't believe it's already August and 5 months left until 2027... Which was my inflection window for glass substrates, CPO, 800v, and new architectures to ramp.

  21. 供应链分析 $POET$SIVE

    POET光学中介层进展升级,Sivers从准备就绪迈向2026年底量产。

    @A22GEO $POET 的光学中介层(optical interposer)部分其实是一个非常有趣的更新,并谈到了 $SIVE。因为对于 Sivers 和 Poet 来说,这是关于 2026 年底“生产”(production)的时间表措辞升级。回想 Sivers 发布新闻稿时,用的词是“生产准备就绪”(production readiness)。

    英文原文

    @A22GEO The $POET optical interposer piece is actually a very interesting update and talks about $SIVE. Since it's a material timeline upgrade wording for "production" EOY 2026, for Sivers + Poet. Back when Sivers did their PR it was "production readiness" https://t.co/EHkOogR39K

  22. 供应链分析 $GFS$LITE$SIVE

    美政府入股GFS推CPO,利好西方供应链玩家。

    @Yeshuaisking11 对于关键矿产,我原本就预料到西方需要尽可能多的补贴来与中国竞争。 美国政府入股 $GFS 以支持共封装光学(CPO)并不在我的预期之内。但这确实表明 CPO 已成为算力供应链的优先事项,且他们已将格芯(Globalfoundries)打造为本土冠军。 我认为这对所有参与美国 CPO 供应链的西方玩家如 $LITE / $SIVE 都是利好。但对世界其他地区的相关企业则不然。

    英文原文

    @Yeshuaisking11 I kinda expected it for critical minerals since Western needs as much subsidies as possible to compete with China. US Gov taking a stake in $GFS for CPO was not on my calendar. But it does go to show CPO becoming a compute supply chain priority and they made Globalfoundries a domestic champion. Which my thoughts are that it's positive for all the Western players this US CPO supply chains like $LITE / $SIVE. Not so much for other parts of the world.

  23. 供应链分析 $GFS$INTC$LITE$SIVE

    美政府注资GFS加速CPO研发,利好硅光子供应链标的SIVE和LITE。

    美国政府将持有 $GFS 1% 的股份,并授予其 3 亿美元用于美国《芯片法案》(CHIPS ACT)。 鉴于该《芯片法案》专门旨在推进共封装光学(CPO) + 硅光子技术(Silicon Photonics),这实际上是对 $SIVE / $LITE 的强烈利好映射(read through)。 (参考:Sivers 和 Lumentum 是 GFS 演示文稿中提到的唯二两家公开激光供应商。Sivers 激光阵列最近被指定为 Globalfoundries SCALE 用于 CPO 的参考设计。) 根据美国政府公告:“GlobalFoundries 将获得高达 3 亿美元,以将国内 CPO 研发加速两到三年”(NIST) 从未想过我们会看到美国政府 / $INTC 晶圆代工模式在特定 CPO 领域的应用...

    英文原文

    US Gov to take 1% stake in $GFS, and award them $300m for the US CHIPS ACT. This is actually a strong read through on $SIVE / $LITE, given this CHIPS ACT is specifically aimed at advancing CPO + Silicon Photonics. (For reference, Sivers and Lumentum were the only two public laser suppliers named in GFS presentation slides. Sivers laser arrays was named recently as a reference design in Globalfoundries SCALE for CPO). Per US Gov announcement: "GlobalFoundries will receive up to $300 million to accelerate domestic CPO R&D by two to three years" (NIST) Never thought we'd see the US Gov / $INTC foundry playbook for CPO in specific...

  24. 博主认为AI需求加速信号明确,短期波动属去杠杆,看好光互连及存储板块。

    我个人认为这是极短期的去杠杆行为,导致许多个股超跌。 - $BE 和 $TER 公布了超预期的业绩,Bloom 报告营收同比增长 166% + 利润率扩张 + 上调 2026 年指引... Teradyne 报告营收同比增长 104%,每股收益增长 300%+。 - 中国领先的光学玩家公布了惊人的初步财报,对西方光子学板块有极强的映射效应。 - 我认为财报季倾向于提醒市场 AI 加速仍在继续。我预计 $LITE、$SNDK / SK Hynix 以及板块龙头 ERs 将继续这一趋势。 - 但感觉市场更多是在奖励现有的加速,而非基于短期修正(如 $AMKR 所见)的未来一年增长。 - 总之,对我跟踪的主题来说看起来非常积极。 - 然后你有 $GOOGL 资本支出上调至 1950-2050 亿美元,这通常是超大规模云厂商最大的 AI 需求信号。 - 预测市场显示下次 FOMC 会议利率不变的概率为 77%。特朗普政府周一呼吁美联储降息。 - 所以今年三次加息的恐惧似乎有些夸大。 - 从 DUV 到 $CXMT 产能过剩的中国恐惧也被极度夸大。我们在每个行业都见过这种情况,直到人们记住激光或 HBM 瓶颈存在是有原因的。 - 就个人想法而言,看到所有东西一起涨跌是不健康的,尤其是这些主题。但我个人并不担心,因为我对我的持仓有充分信心,特别是像 $SIVE 或 $AAOI 这样的光互连领域。 - $META 计算和 $GOOGL GCP 利润率/增长显示出对 $NBIS 及类似新云业务模式的需求增加。 - $META 及其他超大规模云厂商关于与 $SNDK 和三星/SK Hynix、$MU 的长期协议(LTAs)的笔记指向结构性内存需求。 - 可以一直列举下去... - 但当 Jim Cramer 告诉每个保证金交易员在开盘时“全部卖出”,而新闻说存在 AI 泡沫时。 - 我讨厌别人说“它在跌所以卖出”。我相信重要的是看加速的营收/每股收益增长。如果营收加速与超大规模云厂商资本支出保持一致,那么该逻辑依然成立。 - 总之:我看到了 AI 需求/营收加速的迹象,超大规模云厂商资本支出是最重要的跟踪指标之一。 - 我猜我们会看到该主题广泛复苏。但我无法预测具体发生在哪一小时、哪一天或哪一周。

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    I personally see it as extreme short term deleveraging that overshot many individual names. - $BE to $TER reported blowout results, with Bloom reporting 166% Y/Y rev growth + expanding margins + raised 2026 guidance... Teradyne reported 104% Y/Y revenue growth with 300%+ EPS growth. Your leading optical players over in China reported amazing preliminary earnings + extremely strong read through for the Western photonics sector. Think earnings season tend to remind markets about continued AI acceleration. I'm expecting $LITE, $SNDK / SK Hynix, and sector leader ERs to continue that trend. But it does feel like markets are rewarding existing acceleration more rather than future growth a year out over near-term revisions as seen with $AMKR. But as a TLDR, looks very positive for the themes I'm tracking. - Then you have $GOOGL capex raised to $195-$205B, which is typically the biggest AI demand signal from hyperscalers. - 77% 0bps change est. next FOMC decision from prediction markets. Trump administration on Monday called for the Fed to lower interest rates. So your 3x rate hikes fears this year seem kinda overblown. - Chinese fears from DUV to $CXMT overflooding are extremely overblown as well. We see this with every sector from time to time until people remember that lasers or HBM bottlenecks for a reason. As for personal thoughts, it was unhealthy seeing everything rise up or down together, especially with these themes. But I'm personally not worried since I have full conviction in my names, especially optical interconnects like $SIVE or $AAOI. $META compute and $GOOGL GCP margins/growth shows increasing demand for $NBIS and similar neocloud business models. $META + other hyperscaler notes around LTAs with $SNDK and Samsung/SK Hynix, $MU point to structural memory demand. Can go on and on... But when you have Jim Cramer telling every margined DC trader to "sell everything" at market open and news saying there's an AI bubble. I do hate it when others say "it's dropping so sell". My belief is that the important thing to look is accelerating revenue/EPS growth. And if that thesis stays in-tact with revenue acceleration in line with hyperscaler capex. TLDR: I see signs of AI demand / revenue acceleration, hyperscaler capex is one of the most important things to track. And my guess is that we'll see the theme recover broadly. But I can't predict what hour, day, or week that happens.

  25. 供应链分析 $AAOI$COHR$LITE$SIVE

    澄清AMD是AAOI首批CPO客户,并指出LITE/COHR/SIVE为CPO激光器核心标的。

    @Thomus0x 呃,Rosenblatt 6月30日的研报指出 AMD 是 $AAOI 共封装光学(CPO) 最可能的首批客户。我不会说他们离实现还遥遥无期。 根据摩根士丹利最近的研报,$LITE / $COHR / $SIVE 目前在 CPO 激光器可见性方面看起来就是你最看好的前三大标的。

    英文原文

    @Thomus0x eh, Rosenblatt June 30 note identified AMD as the likely first $AAOI CPO customer. I wouldn't quite say they aren't remotely close. $LITE / $COHR / $SIVE just look like your top 3 right now in terms of CPO laser visibility per the recent Morgan Stanley note.

  26. 供应链分析 $AAOI$JBL$LITE$SIVE

    SIVE CEO称可插拔模块将长期存在,CPO为行业方向,激光器产能是瓶颈。

    不完全适用于 $AAOI(他们也在研发共封装光学(CPO),只是商业化进度稍落后)。 最近有一档名为“市场洞察:光子学与AI”的播客采访了 $SIVE 的CEO。 最有趣的观点是: “可插拔光模块在未来10年仍将存在”。 近期有很多关于CPO和RNG/MRC优化将蚕食可插拔模块总可寻址市场(TAM)的论点,但看来可插拔模块将长期存在。 而且未来会有多种架构路径并行(CEO也表示,除了CPO,非平面光学(NPO)在未来5年也是主要机会)。 至于挑战:Vickram表示,制造产能和原材料供应是主要瓶颈。这可能指的是上游连续波(CW)激光器扩产面临的现有瓶颈。 从播客来看,重点似乎放在可插拔市场,因为其短期TAM更大(考虑到 $JBL 和其他玩家,这可以理解),而CPO则是行业发展的北极星指标。 因此,如果 $SIVE 能通过并购获取更多可插拔光收发器IP(就像 $LITE 收购Cloud Light那样),可能会很有趣。 但简而言之: 未来路径多样,可插拔模块将长期存在,CPO似乎是行业发展的北极星方向。 感觉鉴于行业需求增长速度快于所有供应商的集体产能,合格的激光器供应商都有生存空间。

    英文原文

    Not exactly for $AAOI (they're working on CPO too, just a little further behind in commercialization). There's a podcast that featured the $SIVE CEO recently called: "Market Insights: Photonics & AI". Most interesting take was: "Pluggables will be around for the next 10 years". There's a lot of CPO + RNG/MRC optimization TAM cannablization arguments for pluggables recently, but looks like it's here to stay. And that there's going to be multiple architecture paths going forward (CEO also NPO alongside CPO as an major opportunity in the next 5 years). As for challenges: Vickram stated manufacturing capacity + availability of raw material is the main bottleneck. Likely referencing the existing bottlenecks with upstream CW laser ramp. From the podcast, seems like a large focus was on pluggable markets due to larger near-term TAM (which is understandable with $JBL + other players), with CPO being the north star. So it might be interesting if $SIVE M&A ambitions were to acquire more pluggable optical transceiver IP, like what $LITE did with Cloud Light. But TLDR: Lot of different paths moving forward, pluggable here to stay, CPO seems like North Star for where industry is heading. Feels like there's room for every qualified laser supplier given the industry demand is growing faster than what they can all collectively make.

  27. 供应链分析 $AMD$GFS$SIVE

    调研反馈积极,看好AMD CPO路线及上游激光器供应商SIVE。

    @88magalhaes 主要看点是高管对共封装光学(CPO)主题性的评论。涉及 $AMD 以及超大规模云服务商的采用情况和时间表。针对此前因延迟消息而抛售的 CPO 板块,调研反馈非常积极。对于该板块中的 $SIVE 反馈也非常积极,因为它是 Ayar 和 $GFS 的激光器供应商,而这两家公司都与 $AMD 可能的 CPO 路线有关。但由于保密原因,无法获得直接供应商的确认。

    英文原文

    @88magalhaes Main thing was executive commentary on CPO thematically. Regarding $AMD + hyperscaler adoption + timelines. Checks were very positive for the CPO segment that sold off on delay news. And very positive for $SIVE in that segment, since they're the laser supplier for Ayar, $GFS, that are both linked with possible $AMD CPO routes. But couldn't get direct supplier confirmation since that's confidential.

  28. 杂谈 $AMD$SIVE

    博主测试防机器人机制,并计划参加AMD活动询问SIVE。

    @gaetan_po 是的,我目前正在测试一些用于防止机器人(Bot)的手段。 另外,明天我会去 $AMD 的活动现场,而不是全程参加两天,我一定会询问关于 $SIVE 的情况!

    英文原文

    @gaetan_po Yeah, I’m testing some things right now for bot prevention. Also going to $AMD event tomorrow rather than full 2 days, will definitely be asking about $SIVE!

  29. 供应链分析 $ALAB$AMD$AVGO$GFS$NVDA$SIVE

    AMD活动或确认CPO路线,利好SIVE等上游光模块供应商。

    情况稍显微妙。基本上,$AMD 的 SF 活动将在明天(周三/周四,7月22-23日)举行。根据杰富瑞(Jefferies)的客户笔记,AMD 预计将提供更多关于其可能的大规模扩展共封装光学(CPO)路线图及 MI500 的披露信息。如果他们确认 CPO 路线,这在主题上将是积极的,因为这意味着不仅仅是 $NVDA 在推动这一转型。至于 $SIVE,如果确认他们直接处于 AMD 供应链中,我们将获得更清晰的认知。目前,可以通过 $GFS(据报道参与 AMD MI500 CPO 工作)或 AYAR(AMD 投资的公司)进行映射,但尚无正式确认。因此,如果你正在交易:- CPO 主题利好:MI500 明确承诺采用 CPO/光互联 UALink。- AMD 披露使用 Ayar Labs 或 GF SCALE 用于 MI500 CPO:鉴于 $SIVE 是上游激光器供应商/参考激光器,这对他们将极其利好。目前,杰富瑞的 Blayne Curtis 预计 AMD 将与 $ALAB 合作 UAL,与 $AVGO 合作 ESUN……但关键细节如下:“我们关注 AMD 是否承诺基于 CPO 的大规模扩展解决方案,以及谁提供光引擎”。周三/周四我们将通过供应链获得更广泛的认知,今天尚早,难以定论。

    英文原文

    It's slightly more nuanced. Basically, $AMD SF event is tomorrow, Wed/Thurs (July 22, 23). From Jefferies client note, AMD is expected to provide additional disclosures around their likely scale-up CPO roadmap + MI500. If they confirm CPO route, would positive thematically since it's not just $NVDA forcing the transition. As for $SIVE, we'll get a better read if they're directly in AMD supply chains. Since right now, it's possible to map it through $GFS (reportedly involved in AMD MI500 CPO work) or AYAR (which AMD invested in). But no formal confirmations. So if you're turning in: - CPO thematic positive: MI500 explicitly commits to CPO/optical UALink. - AMD gives details using Ayar Labs or GF SCALE for MI500 CPO: That would be extremely positive for $SIVE, given they're the upstream laser supplier / reference laser. Currently, Blayne Curtis from Jefferies expect AMD to work with $ALAB on UAL and $AVGO on ESUN... but juicy details are here: "We are looking for whether AMD commits to a CPO based scale up solution and who supplies the optical engine" We'll get a broader read through on the supply chain come Wednesday/Thursday, too early to tell today.

  30. AI全产业链普涨,博主质疑克莱默效应是否驱动整体行情。

    铠侠(Kioxia)的存储板块收盘大涨17.18%。三星(Samsung)上涨6.15%。 来自 $SIVE、$LITE 和 $AAOI 的光网络板块显示出复苏迹象,均上涨4%以上。 从 $NBIS 到 $IREN 的“新云”(Neoclouds)板块盘前均上涨4%以上。 $INTC 到 $AMD 再到 $MRVL 均上涨4%以上。 “克莱默效应”(Cramer effect)对整个AI交易都有效吗?

    英文原文

    Memory names from Kioxia finished up a whopping +17.18%. Samsung up +6.15%. Optical networking from $SIVE, $LITE, and $AAOI are showing signs of recovery, all up 4%+. Neoclouds from $NBIS to $IREN all up 4%+ premarket. $INTC to $AMD to $MRVL all up 4%+. Does the Cramer effect work on the entire AI trade?