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区分增厚型融资与掠夺式稀释。
并不是所有稀释都是坏事，关键取决于融资结构。 如果你通过6亿美元 ATM 融资来建设激光器晶圆厂产能，并且对应 $AAOI 在2027年上半年每月4.71亿美元收入机会（同时市值区间更低），那就是增厚性的。 如果你为了满足纳斯达克上市要求而让 $SIVE 稀释15%，并把募集资金用于并购，那也是增厚性的。 如果你让 $IQE 稀释，并让 $MTSI 做私募来清掉旧的有毒债务，那也是增厚性的。 但如果你像 $IREN 那样稀释60亿美元，并且很可能在每一次反弹时向公开市场抛售，而这些反弹背后是 $SLNH / $BKKT 吹票者推动、其中大多数散户最后归零，那就是掠夺性的。
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Not all dilution is bad and depends on what structure. If you're doing a $600m ATM to build out laser fab capacity with $AAOI for $471m / month H1 2027 (at lower MC ranges), then that's accretive. If you're diluting 15% for NASDAQ listing requirements with $SIVE, and using proceeds for M&A, that's accretive. If you're diluting with $IQE and doing private placements with $MTSI to wipe off old toxic debt, that's accretive. If you're diluting $6,000,000,000 with $IREN, and likely selling that into the open market on every rally off the backs of $SLNH / $BKKT shills where majority of those retail went to 0, then that's predatory.
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筛选小公司时应重点审视有毒融资和流通盘结构。
当然，第一重要的是有毒融资结构和流通盘动态。 最好的例子是当前 Neocloud 云算力公司的格局： - $IREN 基本上是垃圾，因为它有60亿美元 ATM，几乎是无限稀释，并且很可能在每次反弹时卖出，形成结构性压制。 - 相比之下，$NBIS 年初至今已经上涨153%+，原因是结构最优，比如 $NVDA 直接融资、可转债组合等。 - 另一方面，$CRWV 因为用高利率贷款为 GPU 融资，背着无休止的债务利息。 这件事非常细，但你必须看流通盘动态。 如果它们确实是好公司，那么在现有持有人被稀释到极致之后做多，可能反而是好主意。 但如果你关心自己的股权增值，就应该远离有毒融资结构或有毒压制因素，例如长期侵蚀公司自由现金流(FCF)的债务利息。 小公司经常有这类问题，比如 $SLNH，在2.5亿美元市值上又有新的5亿美元 ATM。 或者像 $BKKT，不断稀释来支付高管薪酬。 在这些公司里，当网红们谈论它们时，你基本上是在把自己的钱转移给公司。所以这些都是危险信号。 很多软件公司，比如 $SNAP，会用盈利能力掩盖股权激励(SBC)。所以公司表面上看起来盈利，但由于稀释，你很可能会看到自己股权价值下降。 筛选投资想法时，需要检查的股权结构类型非常多。
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Sure, #1 thing is toxic financing structure/float dynamics. Best example is current Neoclouds landscape: - $IREN is basically trash, since they have $6,000,000,000 ATMs and virtually infinite dilution, likely selling into every rally (structural overhang) - While $NBIS is now YTD 153%+, from optimal structures (eg. $NVDA direct funding, mix of convertibles, etc.). - On the other hand, $CRWV has endless debt interest given they took out high interest rate loans to finance GPUs. It's extremely nuanced, but you need to take a look at the float dynamics. If they're legitimately a good company, then it might be a good idea to go long after all the existing holders get diluted to oblivion. But if you care about your equity appreciation, it's a good idea to stay far away from toxic financing structures or toxic overhang (eg. debt interest, that eats away at a company FCF long term) With smaller companies, they have this all the time, like $SLNH, where there's new $500m ATMs on a $250m MC. Or like $BKKT where there's endless dilution to fund executive pay. With these companies you're basically transferring your money over to the company while influencers talk about them. So those are red flags. With many software names like $SNAP, they mask stock-based compensation with profitability. So while the company optically looks profitable, you'll likely see the value of your equity decrease due to dilution. There's endless types of these share structures you need to look when screening ideas.
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比较Neocloud公司融资结构：NBIS优于CRWV和IREN。
回复 @BKCY314：融资结构差异非常大，$CRWV 正被债务利息活活吞噬。 $IREN 因为过度 ATM，股权增值很少。 $NBIS 刚刚好，而且还有来自 Avride 子公司和 ClickHouse 持股的分部估值。
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@BKCY314 Financing structure is much different, $CRWV is getting eaten alive by debt interest. $IREN has little equity appreciation from excessive ATMs. $NBIS is just right, and have sum of parts from its subsidiaries from Avride + ownership of Clickhouse https://t.co/FkGn0XWrdV
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复盘NBIS作为最高信念Neocloud选择从84涨到260。
看到我最高信念的 Neocloud 选择 $NBIS 走得很好，很有意思。 去年我写了一篇关于 Neocloud 行业将成为重大主题的论点。 然后选出了王者。 -> Nebius 在整个行业里排名第一，从 $IREN 到 $CRWV 都不如它。 84美元 -> 260美元。 论点被市场验证。
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Fun to see my highest conviction Neocloud pick in $NBIS age well. I wrote a thesis last year on the Neocloud sector becoming a major theme. And then picked the King. -> Nebius is #1 out of the entire sector from $IREN to $CRWV. $84 -> $260. Thesis validated by markets. https://t.co/RGOt3GSNjW
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不看好CRWV和IREN，认为NBIS是Neocloud中最平衡玩家。
回复 @Anon1pvi：不喜欢 $CRWV，债务利息太高。 至于 $IREN，无限 ATM 从结构上限制了上行。 $NBIS 是 Neocloud 中最恰到好处的玩家。
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@Anon1pvi Not a fan of $CRWV, debt interest too high. As for $IREN, infinite ATMs structurally caps upside. $NBIS is the Goldilocks player in neoclouds.
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批评IREN是无限ATM稀释机器。
回复 @blackwalletfr：如果我不再把垃圾叫垃圾。 当你看到 $IREN 这台无限 ATM 稀释机器时，它也不会改变其本质。
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@blackwalletfr If I stop calling trash, trash. That doesn’t change what it is, when you’re looking at the $IREN infinite ATM dilution machine.
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复盘NBIS跑赢Neocloud篮子，接近1000亿市值预测。
$NBIS 有动漫剧情护甲！ 很高兴听说 Weebius 跑赢了市场和 Neocloud 篮子（$IREN / $CIFR）。 去年 MSFT 财报后，我在 Nebius 第四季度财报后给过一个预测：Nebius 会达到1000亿美元市值。 我们现在坐在600亿美元市值，越来越近了！
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$NBIS has anime plot armor! Happy to hear Weebius has been outperforming the market and Neocloud basket ( $IREN / $CIFR ). Last year post MSFT earnings, I gave a prediction after Q4 earnings, Nebius would reach a $100B MC. We’re currently sitting at $60B MC, getting close! https://t.co/e96TirkJT8
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中文回应称自己只是普通人，并否认删除分析帖。
听人说我在中文圈都快“闪光宝可梦”了，哈哈哈。 拜托，我也就是个普通人好吗！ 平时也就是随手写点自己的想法而已。感觉最近关注度高了，也莫名其妙招来了不少黑子和瞎编的谣言。 跟最近那些胡说八道的传闻相反，其实我在推特上从来没删过任何一篇分析帖。 大家估计是把我跟哪个喊单 $IREN 的大号……
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听人说我在中文圈都快”闪光宝可梦”了, 哈哈哈。 拜托我也就是个普通人好吗！ 平时也就是随手写点自己的想法而已。感觉最近关注度高了，也莫名其妙招来了不少黑子和瞎编的谣言 跟最近那些胡说八道的传闻相反，其实我在推特上从来没删过任何一篇分析帖。 大家估计是把我跟哪个喊单 $IREN 的大board
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NBIS新投资者持股5.6%，作者持仓以来约三倍。
看看谁加入了 $NBIS 队伍。 5.6% 是相当大的持股，也许他现在意识到它比 $IREN 这个垃圾堆好得多。 话虽如此：Nebius 自我去年做多以来现在已经上涨约3倍。 Weebius 有剧情护甲。
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Look who joined team $NBIS. 5.6% is a pretty massive stake, maybe he realized by now it’s miles better than the dumpster fire that is $IREN. That being said: Nebius is now up ~3x since I went long last year. Weebius has plot armor. https://t.co/JYZvf3GJND
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吐槽RDDT社区缺乏技术素养，将AXTI误称为MU存储竞争对手。
？？？$RDDT 的智商字面上比 $IREN 投资者还低？ 我不是做了这么多 $AXTI 研究…… 只是为了让你们在它上面赚380%，然后把它叫成 $MU 存储竞争对手，再说它是骗局？ 缺乏技术素养正是我被那里封禁的原因。
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??? $RDDT is literally lower IQ than $IREN investors? I didn't do all this research on $AXTI ... Just for you all to make 380% on it, call it a $MU memory competitor and then a scam? The lack of technical literacy is exactly why I got banned from there. https://t.co/sgrFTgcwfM
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NBIS同期接近三倍而IREN持平或下跌，Neocloud争论已解决。
回复 @Lucha_Stocks：去年11月我和0智商 $IREN 社区有很多争论。 同一时间里，你持有 $IREN 可能持平到负收益，而 $NBIS 接近翻了三倍。 看来那场争论已经以 Weebius 获胜告终。
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@Lucha_Stocks I was having a lot of debates with the 0 IQ $IREN community last November. You would have been flat to negative on $IREN. While $NBIS close to tripled in the same timeframe. Guess that debate got resolved in Weebius’s favor
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不看好IREN，因过度有毒稀释结构限制上行，AAOI同期回报更高。
回复 @IggyPacoRico1：我看不到今天做多 $IREN 的理由，因为过度且有毒的稀释结构从结构上限制了上行。 同一时期 $IREN 持平到负收益，而 $AAOI 本可以带来300%+回报。
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@IggyPacoRico1 I see no reason to long $IREN today when upside is structurally capped with excessive and toxic dilution structures. $AAOI would have returned 300%+ in the same period $IREN was flat to negative.
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对比NBIS、AEHR和IREN走势，强调IREN表现较差。
回复 @ryansfinance：我觉得你忘了 $NBIS 从90美元 -> 235美元 -> 180美元。 $AEHR 从25美元 -> 110美元 -> 77美元。 而 $IREN 从45美元 -> 70美元 -> 45美元。
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@ryansfinance Think you’re forgetting $NBIS went from $90 -> $235 -> $180. $AEHR went from $25 -> $110 -> $77 While $IREN went from $45 -> $70 -> $45
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长文批评IREN无限ATM和营销式融资，认为NBIS才是更好Neocloud。
$IREN 从70美元跌回46美元，跌幅34%。 我想知道 X 上最蠢的社区之一终于学会阅读了吗？ $NBIS 客观上是更好的 Neocloud，并且有真正融资。 -> Nvidia 根本没有资助 $IREN。他们得到的是免费采购协议，让 IREN 使用他们的 logo 并通过稀释来买 GPU。 $NVDA 实际上给了 $NBIS 资本。 -> $IREN 面临像 $BKKT、$ASST、$SLNH 一样无休止稀释，散户财富通过60亿美元 ATM 转移过去，而所谓“5GW 产能”护城河在缩小。 $NBIS 实际使用的是让股权增值的融资结构。 这反映在两者年初至今的差异中。 我去年也说过同样的话。一个上涨约100%。 另一个持平，甚至根据入场点可能是负收益。 IREN 到现在字面上就是一家营销公司，因为它们能说服散户把资本通过财富转移交过去。
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$IREN back down -34% from $70 to $46. I wonder if one of the dumbest communities on X finally learned to read? $NBIS is objectively the better Neocloud, with actual financing. -> Nvidia didn’t fund $IREN at all. They got a free purchase agreement to let IREN use their logos and dilute for GPUS. $NVDA actually gave $NBIS capital. -> $IREN is facing endless dilution like $BKKT, $ASST, $SLNH as retail wealth transfers capital over from $6,000,000,000 ATMs, on a dwindling “5 GW capacity” moat. $NBIS actually uses equity appreciating financing structures. And this is reflected in the YTD differences between them both. I’ve said the same thing last year too. One is up ~100%. The other is flat, and even negative depending on entry points. IREN is literally a marketing company at this point by how they manage to convince retail to wealth transfer over capital.
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批评POET和IREN靠营销、稀释散户囤现金，获得“假装直到成功”奖。
$POET 和 $IREN 字面上都赢得了“Fake it Until you make it”奖。 -> 通过网红进行灰色地带的无尽垃圾营销。 -> 稀释散户到足以囤积大量现金。 -> 现金设定了市值底线。 现在 $POET 在4亿美元私募后，可能有约8.3亿美元纯现金来自稀释。 而它去年市值还低于5亿美元。
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$POET and $IREN literally both won the Fake it Until you make it award. -> Grey area endless marketing of crap through influencers. -> Diluted retail enough to hoard tons of cash -> Cash is sets baseline Market Cap. Now $POET probably has around $830M pure cash from dilution after $400m private placement. While their marketcap was sitting under $500m last year.
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认为只要 thesis 不破，公司就能继续成长
我不确定大家有没有意识到，只要一个 thesis 没有彻底被证伪，像 $NBIS 这种公司就可以继续成长。 看看过去 15 年的 $AMZN 或 $GOOGL 就知道。 如果你老是“减仓”，往往会先触发税负。很多回撤其实还没大到抵消你已经交掉的税。 等所谓“50% 暴跌”真的发生时，价格可能早就已经复利了几百甚至几千个百分点。 如果你需要花钱，只要仓位到了七位数、八位数甚至九位数，你完全可以借着这些资产去融资，同时继续让它们升值。 NFA，只是我个人观点。你们自己随意，但这非常、非常取决于你选的公司。 像 $IREN 这种垃圾就没法这么做。不过我确实认为 $NBIS 已经站在成为下一个 hyperscaler 的位置上了。
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Not sure if people realized this but unless a thesis completely breaks, companies like $NBIS can keep growing. Just look at $AMZN or $GOOGL over the past 15 years. If people "trim" it often triggers taxes. And a lot of corrections are typically less than those taxes paid. By the time a "50% crash happens", it's probably already compounded hundreds of even thousands of percent. If people need to pay expenses, once you hit 7-8-9 figures, you can always borrow against those assets and keep letting them appreciate. NFA, just personal opinion. You all do you, but it's highly, highly, dependent on the companies you pick. Can't do this with something trash like $IREN. But I do believe $NBIS is positioned to be the next hyperscaler.
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反驳别人替我歪曲我对 IREN 的看法
我不明白为什么大家老是把我关于 $IREN 的话歪曲成别的意思。 我从来没这么说过。 我真正说的是，ATM 发行太多会在反弹时压制结构性的上行空间，因为股份会被不断卖进公开市场。 所以更好的做法，是去做多另一只真正能增值的股票。
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I'm not sure why people like putting words in my mouth with $IREN. I've never said that. What I've said was excessive ATM's cap structural upside on rallies because shares get sold into the open market. So it's better to go long on another equity that actually appreciates in value.
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继续看空 IREN，认为它更像融资机器
正如我之前说的，$IREN 跟 $NBIS 比起来基本就是垃圾。 $NVDA 还没给 $IREN 融资。 所以 IREN 只能想办法通过 60 亿美元 ATM 和其他方式买足 GPU，把 5GW 产能变现。 这本质上就是一台无限稀释机，只是因为它拿到了电力。 我叫 $IREN 持有人 0 IQ，是因为他们只是为了拿到稀释而买入，却不理解融资结构的细节。 Nvidia 确实给了 $NBIS 资金。 而 IREN 只是拿到了一个允许它用 logo 的无风险采购协议。 $IREN 现在基本就是一家营销公司，而其他 Neocloud 才是真正让股权升值的公司。
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As I said before $IREN is basically dogsht compared to $NBIS. $NVDA didn’t give $IREN funding yet. So IREN needs to figure out how to buy enough GPUs to monetize 5GW capacity through their 6B ATM and other means. It’s an endless dilution machine just because they secured power. I call $IREN holders 0 IQ because they just buy in it to get diluted without understanding nuances of financing. Nvidia actually gave $NBIS funds. While Nvidia got a free no-risk purchase agreement for allowing $IREN to use their logo. $IREN is basically a marketing company at this point, while the other Neoclouds actually allow equity appreciation.
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依旧看空 IREN，认为融资结构更差
@LMutaaya 大家当时在我 71 美元看空 $IREN 时都说“你在开玩笑吧”。 $NVDA 没有给他们融资，所以他们需要通过别的方式去借钱买 GPU，支撑 5GW 产能。 可转换债其实比 ATM 好得多。
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@LMutaaya People were saying "WERE YOU KIDDING" when I posted I was bearish on $IREN at $71. $NVDA isn't giving them any funding, so they need to raise elsewhere to buy GPUs for their 5 GW capacity. Convertible notes is actually a lot better way to go than ATMs though.
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拿 IREN 投资者开玩笑
@UpsideExit 你们想帮他们也没用，毕竟他们的 IQ 跟 $IREN 投资者差不多。 https://t.co/DX576R4KNz
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@UpsideExit You try to help them but it’s hard to when they have about the same IQ as $IREN investors https://t.co/DX576R4KNz
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澄清自己是在拿 SNDK 开玩笑，IREN 才是真 meme
@EhrmantrautCap_ 我是在拿 $SNDK 开玩笑。 $IREN 才是真正的 meme stock。
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@EhrmantrautCap_ I was talking about $SNDK as a joke. $IREN is a true meme stock.
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对比AAOI和IREN过去6个月股价表现，AAOI大涨451%远超IREN的6%。
@nasdaq90 在过去6个月里，$AAOI上涨了451%，而$IREN表现稳健，上涨了6%。
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@nasdaq90 $AAOI is up 451% in the past 6 months while $IREN is up a solid 6%.
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解释 IREN 拿到的是无风险品牌授权，不是真投资
@bennybigbull 他们拿到的是**购买 3000 万股的权利**。 $NVDA 根本没有投钱。 他们只是因为允许 IREN 使用他们的品牌、并进一步稀释自己去买 Nvidia GPU，才拿到一个无风险的期权式认购协议。
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@bennybigbull They have the **right to** buy 30m shares. $NVDA hasn't invested anything. They just got a risk-free option purchase agreement for allowing $IREN to use their branding and dilute more to buy Nvidia GPUs.
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解释 NVDA 对 IREN 的支持并不等于真正投资
$NVDA 什么都没投。他们拿到的是一个完全无风险的购买协议，自己没有承担任何投入。 这和可转债不同；可转债是他们借钱给 $IREN，然后按 70 美元转换。 很多人把融资结构的细节混为一谈，但如果他们真给 $NBIS 投了 20 亿美元，那就完全是另一回事。
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$NVDA hasn't invested anything. They got a completely risk-free purchase agreement without committing anything. This is different than a convertible note where they would loan $IREN money and to convert it at $70. People conflate all the nuances of financing structures, it's actually material if they put $2B into a company like $NBIS.
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强调 NVDA 只是给了无风险认购文件
@OrkunEC Nvidia 基本上只是给了 $IREN 一个完全无风险的股份购买票据，自己根本没投钱。 这甚至都不是可转债，因为他们没有给 $IREN 任何现金。 他们让 $IREN 用自己的品牌去继续稀释并买 Nvidia GPU，自己却不会承担损失。
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@OrkunEC Nvidia basically got a completely risk-free share purchase note for $IREN and hasn't invested at all. This wasn't even a convertible note, where they gave $IREN any money. They're not losing anything for letting $IREN use their brand to dilute more and buy Nvidia GPUs.
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认为 IREN 的主牛点只是软件收购，但仍不想接稀释
@CookerFlips 某种程度上是这样。$IREN 的主要牛点，如果你愿意忽略噪音的话，其实是他们最近收购了 Mirantis 的软件业务。 但我还是不想去接那种为了买 5GW GPU 产能、被稀释 60 亿美元的公司。
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@CookerFlips In a sense. The main bull case for $IREN was their software acquisition with Mirantis recently if you want to look past the fluff. Still wouldn't want to be the one to get diluted $6B to fund their 5 GW worth of GPU purchases.
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继续看空 IREN，认为它只是品牌协议和稀释机器
我现在还是看空 $IREN。 算法 / 散户大概是看见 $NVDA 和 $IREN 合作就冲了进去。 但如果看现实情况，那更像是一个品牌协议，给了 $NVDA 无风险的可转票据。 所以 $IREN 还能继续把 60 亿美元 ATM 卖给散户。 这就像一家创业公司用了 AWS，就说自己和 Amazon 合作，然后让别人给它 60 亿美元。 这根本不是 Nvidia 直接给 IREN 融资，只是给了它一个无风险选择权。 有个“5GW 部署”故事，但我不想成为那个替它接稀释的人。
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I still am bearish on $IREN. Algorithms/retail probably read $NVDA + $IREN partnership and bought it up. However, if you look at the realtity, it's just looks like brand agreement giving $NVDA risk-free convertible notes. So $IREN can continue selling their $6,000,000,000 ATM into retail investors. It's the equivalent of a startup using AWS and saying they have an Amazon partnership so give them $6B. This wasn't Nvidia directly funding $IREN yet, just a risk free option to. There's a "5 GW deployment" but I'd rather not be the one buying into the dilution to fund it.
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说自己打游戏时练出来了应对 IREN/BKKT 社群的耐心
@LaloGpZ9 也不完全是。但这确实帮我应付了 X 上那些脑残的 $IREN、$BKKT 社群。 毕竟我有在队友开局送人头、一路乱送还在全队频道喷人的 Draven 里练出来的经验。
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@LaloGpZ9 Not really. But it did help me deal with all the braindead $IREN $BKKT communities on X Since I have experience with inting Dravens on my team running it down and flaming in all chat.
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批评IREN和SLNH的稀释性融资模式，提醒投资者远离毒性融资结构
$IREN 和 $SLNH 的投资者可能是我在 X 上互动过的最愚蠢的社区。 我从未见过一个社区对一家市值 $219M 的公司如此看涨，该公司正在进行新的 $1,000,000,000 稀释。 以及持续的 $500,000,000 ATM（在市场直接发售）。 然后你看 $IREN，拥有 $6,000,000,000 活跃 ATM，持续随时间向公开市场抛售股票。 也许，一个更好的做法是去做多一只没有毒性融资的股票……这样你才能真正从股权升值中受益，而不是仅仅充当流动性。 真的很难向那些缺乏脑细胞的人解释金融稀释的细微差别。 而偏偏 $SLNH 在提交 $500M ATM 后立即被 $BKKK、$IREN 投资者正面提及，因为他们需要退出流动性。 公司正在直接把股票卖给这些傻瓜。
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$IREN and $SLNH investors are probably the most braindead communities I've interacted with on X. I've never seen a community so bullish on a $219M MC stock that has a new $1,000,000,000 dilution. And an ongoing $500,000,000 ATM. Then you have $IREN, with $6,000,000,000 active ATM, sold over time into the open market. Maybe, it's a better idea to just go long on a stock without the toxic financing... So you can actually benefit from equity appreciation without just being liquidity? It's just so hard to explain to people the nuances in financial dilution who lack the brain cells. And it just so happens $SLNH gets mentioned positively by $BKKT, $IREN investors the moment after they file a $500M ATM since they need exit liquidity. The company is selling offloading shares directly to these idiots.
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IREN 是很差的多头
$IREN 是个糟糕透顶的多头标的。我想不出有谁会真正关心组合净值增长，还愿意买进一个 60 亿美元 ATM、同时高管又给自己发创纪录高额 SBC 的公司。 人们只是因为“有稳定供电”的承诺才买进去，但这已经不算护城河了，那是去年的事了。
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$IREN is a horrendous long. I can’t imagine anyone that cares about portfolio appreciation to buy into a $6B ATM while executives award themselves record high SBC. People are just buying in to get diluted because of a promise of secured power (which is no longer a moat, it was last year)
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SLNH 也是高稀释标的
$SLNH 跟 $BKKT、$ASST 和 $IREN 一样，都是垃圾股。 它正在通过 5 亿美元 ATM 积极稀释所有人。 真不明白为什么还有人听一个一再把散户组合搞崩的人说话。 我就看着他们从散户接盘侠手里融出 5 亿美元，最后把这些人稀释到 0。 然后再说“我们账上有 5 亿美元，所以市值应该更高”，再用这个 ATM 给自己发 SBC。 它们都绝对是很差的多头。
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$SLNH is a shtco like $BKKT, $ASST, and $IREN. That is actively diluting everyone with a $500M ATM. Not sure why anyone even listens to a guy who has consistently crashed retail portfolios over and over. I’m going to watch them raise $500M off retail bagholders that get diluted to $0. Then say “we have $500m on our balance sheets, MC should be higher” and award themselves SBC off the ATM. They’re all absolutely terrible longs.
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吐槽 Anthropic 模型
我最近接触过的 Anthropic Opus 4.6 和 4.7，可能都是最蠢的 LLM 了？ 它们是被石头砸到脑袋了吗。还是只是拿 $IREN 的投资者对话重新训练出来的？ 可能我过一阵子都不会再用了。 4.6 刚出来时感觉像 God-Mode，但现在却像是我最近接触过的最蠢 LLM。
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Both Anthropic's Opus 4.6 and 4.7 are probably the dumbest LLMs I've interacted with recently? Did they get hit in the head by a rock. Or just retrained off $IREN investor conversations? Probably not going to use it again for awhile. Felt like God-Mode when 4.6 first came out and just the stupidest LLM I've interacted with recently.
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不是满仓 IREN
@kevinxu 我喜欢你的乐观！我说的是那种把 $IREN 满仓到极致的投资者。 不是那种手里还留着 1000 万美元，然后在分拆出来的组合里做“满仓挑战”的人。
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@kevinxu I like your optimism! I’m talking about full port full port $IREN investors. Not the have $10M sitting on the side and full port challenge in a spinoff portfolio
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不是满仓 IREN
@finanzasanonima Situational Awareness 不是满仓 $IREN。
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@finanzasanonima Situational Awareness is not full port $IREN
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IREN 社区编造 Anthropic 交易
@dinxnd_ 投资和因为 $IREN 社区想编造一笔和 Anthropic 的交易而去投资，是有区别的。 然后再拉着别人去买入正在进行的稀释。
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@dinxnd_ There’s a difference in investing and investing because the $IREN community wanted to make up completely false information about a deal with Anthropic. Then get others to buy into active dilution.
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不想搞人身攻击
@babyfolio 不好意思，我不太喜欢像 $IREN 社区那样搞人身攻击。
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@babyfolio Unfortunately I don't like to go into personal attacks like those in the $IREN community.
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IREN 社区编造信息
我说 $IREN 社区成员 IQ 很低，可不是开玩笑。 他们确实在编造信息，好让别人继续买入正在进行的稀释。 这个社区会散布这种胡话去骗新的散户，然后一个月后再来一轮，继续他们那 60 亿美元的 ATM。 提示：Anthropic 和 $IREN 之间根本没有交易。 这简直是在侮辱那些真正做 OSINT / 供应链映射的人。
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I wasn't joking when I said $IREN community members have low IQ. Since they literally have to fabricate information get people to get others to buy into active dilution. The community shares this sort of BS to convince new retail investors, then does another one a month later for their active $6B ATM. Hint: there's no deal with Anthropic or $IREN. It's an insult to anyone who actually does OSINT/Supply Chain mapping.
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IREN 假交易与拉盘
@Lazarus_Capital $IREN 社区真的编造了一笔和 Anthropic 的假交易，想在晨间公告前把股价拉起来。 然后他们的董事会成员也一直在编造信息，等那只带着 ATM 的股票暴跌后又把内容删掉。
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@Lazarus_Capital $IREN community members literally fabricated a false deal with Anthropic to pump stock prices ahead of a Morning announcement. Then their board member fabricates information all the time then deletes it after the stock that has an ATM going on crashes.
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被 IREN 社区看傻了
@tommyleed8888 我每天都会看到很多蠢评论……但我从没因为看评论把脑子看坏过，直到和 X 上的 $IREN 社区接触之后。
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@tommyleed8888 I get a lot of dumb comments every day... But I don’t think I’ve ever lost brain cells reading them before until I interacted with the $IREN community on X
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这是冲着 IREN 核心粉去的
@steve2bacon @ParadisLabs @kevinxu 哦，我们很平静。这条更多是针对 $IREN 的狂热社区成员。 不过他用的那个 AI 还真该再调一调。
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@steve2bacon @ParadisLabs @kevinxu Oh we’re chill. This was more targeted at the $IREN cult community members. The AI he uses could use some fine tuning tho
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没在高 conviction 上看错过
@ISITrading2717 不，我坚持我说的话。 到现在为止，我在 $HOOD、$RKLB、$TSM、$AAOI、$AEHR、$SIVE 这些高 conviction 标的上都没看错过。 现在也包括 $IREN 社区成员 IQ。
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@ISITrading2717 Nope, I stand by my words. I haven’t been wrong on any high conviction stock yet from $HOOD, $RKLB, $TSM, $AAOI, $AEHR, $SIVE. And now $IREN community member IQ.
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满仓 IREN 的人很蠢
我非常确信，把 $IREN 满仓或接近满仓的人，是你在这个世界上会遇到的最蠢的人之一。
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I have high conviction that majority/full port $IREN investors are the dumbest people you’ll meet in this world.
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IREN 仍然看空
@BitcoinAIGuy 我现在仍然看空 $IREN，因为有 60 亿美元 ATM 的悬压，哪怕市场传言他们在做 colo 也是如此。我去年确实做多过，你知道的。
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@BitcoinAIGuy I’m still bearish on $IREN due to $6B ATM overhang, even if there’s rumors they’re doing colo. I was long last year you know.
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不要追逐每一轮新瓶颈
别因为每个新闻周期里出现一个新的“瓶颈”就开始 FOMO。 它现在的轮动是： $NVDA GPU -> $MU 存储 -> $IREN 电力 -> $LITE EML -> $SNDK 存储 -> GPU -> $AAOI 收发器 -> 先进封装 -> 变压器 -> $INTC CPU……等等 然后下一个就会变成 $LPK 的玻璃基板，或者日本某种别的冷门材料。 这些大多都横跨好几年。 如果 $LITE 到 2028 年都卖完了，而现在才 2026 年上半年。超大规模云厂商其实已经在把 $AAOI 能做的产能都买走了。 最好的办法可能就是对现有仓位耐心一点。 因为你追当前新闻周期，大概率只会错过某个突然拉起来的绿柱。
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Not the best idea to feel FOMO about the new “bottleneck” in every news cycle. It’s going from: $NVDA GPUs -> $MU Memory -> $IREN Power -> $LITE EMLs -> $SNDK Memory -> GPUs -> $AAOI transceivers -> Advanced Packaging -> Transformers -> $INTC CPUs… etc And next would be stuff like $LPK glass substrates or some random niche material from Japan. Most of these span multi-years. If $LITE is sold out into 2028 and it’s H1 2026. Hyperscalers are buying out anything $AAOI can make. It’s probably good idea to just be patient with your existing positions. Because there’s likely going to be some random green candle that you miss out on chasing the current news cycle.
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IREN 仍是差价
现在还有人继续看多像 $IREN 这种 F 级 neocloud，真是奇怪。 在 60 亿美元稀释悬压下？ 而 $NBIS 现在和 $ORCL、$MSFT 一起看起来都已经去风险了？ https://t.co/vIdzdk4Hqi
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How are there people still long on an F-tier Neocloud like $IREN. Amid a $6,000,000,000 dilution? When $NBIS is up there with $ORCL and $MSFT looking derisked? https://t.co/vIdzdk4Hqi
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分享想法是为了帮散户
真心感谢大家的好评。 我最终还是把自己的想法免费分享出来，因为我想帮助散户社区。 $TSEM 已经实现了三位数回报……所以 YTD 里有 16 个不同名字都涨了很多。 因此我的年内回报也达到了 1525%+。 顺便回顾一下一路上的各种攻击和骚扰： 1. $AXTI - “拉高出货”、“中国垃圾股”，还因为 AXT 从 12 美元涨到 80 美元，WSB $RDDT 的版主把我封了，理由是投资者真的赚到钱了。 2. $AAOI - “没有基本面的拉盘股，meme 股” 3. $SIVEF - “拉高出货” “meme 股” 4. $LITE - “光子泡沫” 5. $IQE - “就是在拉小市值股” 6. $AEHR - “营收负增长的股票，为什么大家不去看他而要花 2000 多美元买我的订阅？” 7. $CRCL - “TA 说它会跌到 30 美元” 8. $EWY - “只是从关注者那儿来的” （提示，这是韩国指数） 9. Unimicron - “这个点子没用，给我美国股票” 10. Nitto Boseki - “这个点子没用，给我美国股票” 11. $OSS - 抄想法（不，我对委内瑞拉的整合是原创） 12. $GDRZF - “你是个很糟糕的人，居然想从委内瑞拉战争里赚钱” 13. $RPI - “因为你是 meme trader，所以这就是 meme 股”（FT、欧洲媒体） 14. $SOI - “拉高出货”、“没有新意”（随机分析师） 15. $ALRIB - “拉小市值股”（不，这是 $MSFT 量子信息发现） 16. $TSEM - “只是因为关注者才买”（兄弟，这是 250 亿美元以上的公司，这些都是机构） 还是那句话……关于基本面的判断一直都是对的？我只是提前把信息整合 / 发现分享出来，赶在机构发现之前。 散户和媒体应该庆祝 16+ 个不同想法年内都涨了 100%+，因为股票本来就是正和游戏。 散户、公司和本地经济都受益。 结果却是负面情绪满天飞，大家一直在试图贬低 / 淡化这些想法，就像抢跑光子超级周期……即便这些想法最后都证明是对的？ 这些喷子开始影响到我了，从 $IREN 那帮人每天换新账号发现实威胁，到欧洲媒体对“拉高出货”的虚假叙事……因为我确实会读每条评论。 但注意看……95% 的东西都在涨？而且 Point72 和 Apollo 这种机构最后都买了我提到的名字？ 这种评论确实有助于让我继续留在 X 上，而且我确实喜欢在喷子身上打回去。
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Genuinely thanks for nice comments. I share my ideas for free in the end though since I want to help out the retail community. $TSEM hit triple digit return... so that's 16 different names YTD. So my YTD hit 1525%+ as a result. Just to recap all the endless abuse and harassment along the way: 1. $AXTI - "Pump and Dump", "Scam Chinese Stock", Got banned from WSB $RDDT after Mods got mad investors actually made money AXT going from $12->$80. 2. $AAOI - "Pumping stock with no fundamentals, Meme stock" 3. $SIVEF - "Pump and Dump" "Meme Stock" 4. $LITE - "Photonics Bubble" 5. $IQE - "Just pumping low MC stocks" 6. $AEHR - "Stock with negative revenue growth, why is anyone following this guy and not paying $2,000+ for my subscription?" 7. $CRCL - "TA says it's going down to $30" 8. $EWY - "Just from followers" (hint, it's the South Korean Index) 9. Unimicron - "Idea is useless give me US stocks" 10. Nitto Boseki - "Idea is useless give me US stocks" 11. $OSS - Stealing Ideas (no, my synthesis around Venezuela was novel) 12. $GDRZF - "You're a terrible human trying to profit off of the War in Venezuela" 13. $RPI - "Meme stock all because of a Meme Trader" (FT, European Media). 14. $SOI - "Pump and dump", "no novel idea" (random analysts) 15. $ALRIB - "Pumping low MC stocks" (no, it's $MSFT quantum information discovery) 16. $TSEM - "Pumping based on followers alone" (bro it's $25B+, these are institutions) Or how about... the idea around fundamentals was right all along? And I'm just sharing information synthesis/discovery before institutions find out about them. Retail and media should be celebrating when 16+ different ideas return 100%+ YTD, since stocks are positive sum. Everyone from retail, the companies, and local economies benefits. Instead, negativity is through the roof and people keep trying to diminish/downplay the ideas like frontrunning the photonics supercycle… even when they actually turn out right? The trolls are starting to get to me, from $IREN folks creating new accounts every day just to send IRL threats, to European media disinformation about "pumping and dumping"... since I do read every comment. But notice... how 95% of things keep going up? And institutions like Point72 and Apollo end up buying the names I mention? Comments like this do make it helpful to stay on X, and I do enjoy taking victory laps on the haters.
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更愿意在这里做多 BIRD 而不是 IREN。
@daniel_koss 在这里我宁愿做多 $BIRD，也不想做多 $IREN。
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@daniel_koss I'd rather go long on $BIRD here than $IREN.
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说不买 IREN 这种 ATM 打印股会轻松很多。
@mwallacegreen3 很高兴听到……是啊，不去买那种 60 亿美元、靠 ATM 一路打印然后卖给反弹的 $IREN，整个人会轻松很多。 像 $NBIS 这种股票，你反而可以真正享受到长期股价上升。
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@mwallacegreen3 Glad to hear it… yeah it’s like a weight lifted off your shoulders that you’re not buying into a $6B ATM printed and sold into rallies with $IREN. With other stocks like $NBIS you can actually benefit from long term share price appreciation.
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说自己没有 IREN 仓位，也没拿钱。
@0xsimmo 我手里没有 $IREN 的仓位，也没有拿钱，也没有任何财务动机来说这些。 我唯一在乎的是保护散户，不要被 X 上那些掠夺性的社区 / KOL 收割。
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@0xsimmo I have zero position in $IREN, not getting paid or have any financial incentive to say any of this. Only thing I care about is protecting the retisl investors from predatory communities/influencers on X.
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说不是只有那一个人，而是一整个群体。
@pepemoonboy 不只是那一个人。他身后还有一整个疯掉的 KOL 团体在一起卖同一只股票。 最后受伤的只有散户，你看每一只股票的市场表现就知道了。
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@pepemoonboy Not just that guy. He has a whole group of delusional influencers shilling the same stock with him. The only people hurt are retail investors in the end and you can see it with market performance across every stock.
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批评投资群组过度稀释股票、骚扰批评者，强调保护散户和自己正确推荐$NBIS的记录。
就像……同样的事情在反复上演，他们每次都用过度的ATM（市场价发行）创造新账户和新股票。 你指出这个问题？无休止的骚扰、死亡威胁、以及新账户刷屏： “别说$IREN、$BKKT、$ASST的坏话，这种骚扰就会停止！” 不在乎？保护散户利益对我来说是第一位的。 我去年推荐$NBIS，到现在涨了60%以上。 去年高峰期跟随那个投资群组的人，因为过度稀释亏损了50%到90%。
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Like... It’s the same thing on repeat, they create new accounts and new stocks every time with excessive ATMs. You point that out? Endless harassment, death threats, and new account spam: Saying “don’t speak badly about $IREN $BKKT $ASST and this harassment will stop!” Don’t care? Protecting retail interest comes #1 to me. I was suggesting $NBIS last year which is up 60%+. Anyone who followed that investor group last year at the peak are down 50-90% from excessive dilution.
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说卖 IREN/BKKT/ASST 的团体最离谱也最有害。
那个推 $IREN、$BKKT、$ASST 的社区 / KOL 群体，是 X 上最离谱也最有害的一群人。 市场才是真理的终极裁判。 如果某样东西跌了 99%。 而他们接下来继续推的下一只股票，又有 60 亿美元的持续稀释。 而你指出它比同类低了 60%+： 他们只会说“长期投资”或者“你根本不懂！” 或者也许……如果你还有脑子，你就不会想给一个 60 亿美元 ATM 当退出流动性吧？ 我去年对 $BKKT 说过同样的话，也因为这件事被同样的人身攻击。 现在它已经从 40 美元跌到 8 美元，而当初推 $IREN 的还是同一批账号。
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The community / influencers shilling $IREN, $BKKT, and $ASST are the most delusional and harmful group on X. Markets are the greatest arbiter of truth. If something is down 99%. And the next stock they try pushing has a $6,000,000,000 active dilution. And you show that it’s down 60%+ compared to its peers: they’ll just say “long term investing” or “you don’t know what you’re talking about!” Or maybe… if you had a brain, you don’t want to be exit liquidity for a $6B ATM? I was saying the same thing about $BKKT and received the same personal attacks last year. It’s now down from $40 to $8 from the same group of profiles pushing $IREN today.
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把人肉、威胁和假举报都当作“负面”反驳。
这不是所谓的“负面”，当事情已经升级到人肉、死亡威胁、冒出来几百个新的 $IREN 账号、刷举报、虚假指控、以及煽动整个社区来围攻我时，这已经不是正常讨论了。 更糟的是，他们还说服别人一起陪着他们抱着那个 60 亿美元 ATM 不放。 但至少市场在证明我的 thesis 是对的，这点我很欣慰。
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It's not "negativity" when it goes into doxxing, death threats, hundreds of new $IREN accounts created, spam reporting, false accusations, and inciting a whole community to go after me. What's even worse is they convince others to baghold with them into the $6,000,000,000 ATM. But glad the markets are proving my thesis right.
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说 IREN 的骚扰和 IQE 的大涨证明市场是真理裁判。
@Bulls_and_Bills 过去几个月里，$IREN 那边一直是无休止的开号骚扰和社区人身攻击。 市场才是真理的裁判，当 $IREN 最后被证明就是狗屎，而像 $IQE 这种名字涨到 610.2%+ 时，这就算是我应得的胜利巡礼了。
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@Bulls_and_Bills For months it was non-stop $IREN account creation harassment as well as community character attacks. Markets are the arbiter of truth, and when $IREN turns out to be dogsht and names like $IQE hit 610.2%+, it's a well deserved victory lap.
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回顾自己把 IQE 看对、BKKT/IREN 被做空群体围攻。
我还记得 X 上一些散户一直把 $IQE 叫成“pump and dump”股票。 而他们自己的简介里却还在抱着 $BKKT 或 $IREN。 很高兴看到 600%+ 的年内表现碾压了其他所有人的表现。 随后机构用历史高位买入的方式验证了我的 thesis。
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I still remember random retail on X kept calling $IQE a “pump and dump” stock. While they’re busy bagholding $BKKT or $IREN in their bios. Glad to see the 600%+ YTD performance mog everyone else’s performance. With institutions validating my thesis afterward by buying it to ATHs.
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说按开盘算只涨了 31 美分。
@matthew_sigel 对，如果按开盘算，其实只涨了 31 美分。Google 似乎按收盘 42.7 美元来算的 $IREN。 https://t.co/yhonJDzaVz
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@matthew_sigel Yeah it's up a solid 31 cents if you go with open. Google seems to have calculated it based on $42.7 at close with $IREN. https://t.co/yhonJDzaVz
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强调融资结构差异。
@nickthehodler 融资结构才是关键。 $NBIS 以更大的市值，稀释 20 亿美元去买 $NVDA 相关投资，或者用比当前行权价高 20%+ 的可转债。 这和 $IREN 把自己一半市值印出来，再卖到公开市场给散户，是结构上完全不同的。
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@nickthehodler Financing structure is what matters. $NBIS diluting $2B for an $NVDA investment off a much larger MC. Or convertible notes 20%+ above current strikes. Is structurally different than $IREN printing half their MC and selling that into the open market on retail shareholders.
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说 6B ATM 的运作逻辑已经证明了一切。
@nickthehodler 这背后就是一个 60 亿美元 ATM 被打印出来并卖到公开市场的运作逻辑。 $NBIS 61%+ 的表现和 $IREN 年内 -8% 的差距已经证明了一切。
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@nickthehodler It's backed by the logic of how a $6,000,000,000 ATM that gets printed and sold into the open market works. The performance disparity between 61%+ with $NBIS and -8% YTD with $IREN is proof of it.
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说没有融资就不可能变现 4GW+ 容量。
对，我真的不明白，他们在没有融资的情况下，根本不可能把 4GW+ 产能变现。 而他们却选择了 ATM，而不是像 $NBIS 那样用可转债 + $NVDA 投资。 大多数人都不理解稀释的结构机制，所以才会盲目地买进一个 60 亿美元、往公开市场狂印钱的机器。 如果他们当初听我的，大家的组合本来能从 $NBIS 涨 60%+，而不是被 $IREN 拖到 -8%+。
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Yeah, I genuinely don't understand, there's 0 chance they can monetize 4GW+ capacity without financing. And they chose ATMs over convertible notes + $NVDA investment like $NBIS. Majority of people don't understand structural mechanics of dilution, which is why they keep blindly buying into a $6B money printer sold into the open market. People's portfolios would have been up 60%+ from $NBIS instead of down -8%+ from $IREN if they listened.
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建议先做税务收割，再长期持有真正能升值的资产。
@NieMehrKrieg 有时候，最好的做法就是先做税务收割，然后长期持有一个真的可能升值的资产。 现在的持有者，不过就是 $IREN 60 亿美元 ATM 的退出流动性而已。那个社区还会尽力鼓励别人跟着一起抱着不放。
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@NieMehrKrieg Sometimes it's best to just tax harvest and long an asset that might actually appreciate in value. Current holders are just exit liquidity for $IREN $6,000,000,000 ATM. And the community tries their best to encourage others to baghold with them.
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用 IREN 和 NBIS 的年内表现对比说明 ATM 稀释伤害。
$IREN 年内 -7.9% 是有原因的。 而 $NBIS 年内 +61.1% 也是有原因的。 买进一个 60 亿美元 ATM 的幻想程度真是离谱。 即便到了现在，IREN 的 AMC 被套者还是不肯承认自己错了吗？ 市场是最强的真理裁判，而 Nebius 和 Iren 之间巨大的业绩差异已经说明了一切。 我之前就说过，$IREN 的市值还会继续上升，但持股人的股权价值会下降。 这就是 ATM 的运作方式。过度 ATM 对现有股东不是增厚，而是稀释。 最好先让所有现有套牢者被洗掉，然后等 ATM 结束之后再去做多。
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There's a reason $IREN is down -7.9% YTD. While $NBIS is up 61.1% YTD. The amount of delusion buying into a $6,000,000,000 ATM is unreal. Even after this, IREN AMC bagholders still can't admit they're wrong? Markets are the biggest arbiter of truth, and massive performance difference between Nebius and Iren is telling. As I said before, the marketcap for $IREN will keep going up, but people's share values will decrease. That's how ATMs work. Excessive ATMs are not accretive to current shareholders. It's better to let all existing bagholders get wiped out first, then go long after the ATM is finished.
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批评只看技术图形的分析，强调基本面、催化和现金流建模。
那些收 500 美元一个月、只会画线的人，大概是我最烦的存在了……尤其是当他们还会在我的 thesis 帖子下面评论，比如 $AEHR 财报那种。 股价是由基本面和催化推动的。技术分析只是自我实现的占星术；如果 $AMZN 有一笔巨大的采购订单，没人会在乎技术面说的“超买”，真正重要的是把这会带来多少自由现金流，相对于市值要怎么建模。 $IREN 也是一样，居然还有人拿技术图去画它，而市场里明明有 60 亿美元的稀释，图表根本没把这部分算进去。
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Swiggly line drawers that charge $500 a month are possibly the greatest annoyance to me... Especially when they comment underneath my thesis posts like $AEHR earnings. Stocks move based on fundamentals and catalysts. TA is astrology self-fulfilling prophecies but if $AMZN has a massive purchase order, nobody cares about "overbought" based on TA it's about modeling in how much FCF that brings relative to MC. Same with anyone who tries drawing a TA for $IREN when there's literally $6,000,000,000 in dilution that a chart doesn't account for.
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回顾自己在 AAOI 上的高确定性多头和过往 thesis 得到验证。
听见了吗，匿名网友？？ 我高确定性的多头 $AAOI 已经涨了极其夸张的幅度。 我在 2025 年关于超大规模客户的帖子里写过： “我们大概率会看到资金流向像 $COHR、Innolight、$LITE 和 $AAOI 这样的公司，作为 2026 年的一个主题。” thesis。验证。正在发生。
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Did you listen anon??? My high conviction long $AAOI is up extreme amounts. Post from 2025 around hyperscalers: “We’ll likely see investments pour to players like $COHR, Innolight, $LITE, and $AAOI as a theme in 2026.” Thesis. Validation. Live. https://t.co/A3V6eRaXeH
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批评 IREN 大额 ATM 稀释是结构性压制，并对比 NBIS 表现。
什么时候那些拿着 $IREN 的套牢者才会承认我说得对： $6,000,000,000 的 ATM 稀释是结构性压制？ -> $NBIS 年初至今涨了 48% -> $IREN 年初至今跌了 13% 虽然 IREN 的市值在上升（ATM 对公司融资有利），但股东权益却在下降。 这就是大家不理解、或者不愿意听的过度稀释警告。 不过在每一轮涨势里，他们大概还是会通过 GPU 来筹资、去变现自己的 GW 容量： 结果就是，市场上大概会凭空增发出接近一半市值的股份，然后再被抛到公开市场。
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When is it time for the $IREN bagholders to admit I was right about the: $6,000,000,000 ATM dilution being a structural overhang? -> $NBIS is up 48% YTD -> $IREN is down 13% YTD. While IREN’s marketcap goes up (ATMs benefit the company), shareholder equity goes down. This is the warning about excessive dilution that people don’t understand or want to hear. Likely in every rally to raise funds to monetize their GW capacity though GPUs: There’s going to be half the market cap minted out of thin air, then sold into the open market.
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强调自己在市场上涨前就公开给出 thesis，并嘲讽 IREN 看空者。
听见了吗，匿名网友？？ $AAOI 和 $AEHR 这周都已经涨了 50%+。 我会在任何行情启动之前就公开写出自己的 thesis，而且不会收成千上万美元来给你看股票池。 如果你还在听那些 $IREN 投资者说什么“因为 2025 年市盈率所以会做空或者要崩”，那不如去玩 PayPal 或 $SPY 吧。
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Did you listen anon? $AAOI and $AEHR both up 50%+ this week alone. I post my thesis publicly BEFORE any movement happens and without charging thousands to see stock picks. If you’re listening to $IREN investors why these are “short or going to dump because of 2025 P/E ratios” maybe stick to PayPal or $SPY.
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认为 IREN 多头转而做空 AEHR / AAOI 反而是在添柴。
@si0xac4742 是啊，很多 $IREN 投资者都被我惹毛了，还试图去做空 $AEHR 或 $AAOI…… 不过我觉得他们现在只是给火上浇油而已，因为 $AEHR 已经涨了 24%。
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@si0xac4742 Yeah a lot of the $IREN investors got mad at me and tried shorting $AEHR or $AAOI... I think they're just adding fuel to the fire at this point since $AEHR is up 24%.
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区分正常融资和会直接摊薄股东权益的疯狂增发。
@BitcoinAIGuy 通过像 Northland 那样融个 1 亿美元和把流通股直接翻倍、像 $AXTI 或 $IREN 那样把股东权益稀释掉，这两者是完全不同的。 至少 AXT 这次还得经过股东投票。IREN 的 ATM 还在继续。
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@BitcoinAIGuy There’s a difference between raising capital like $100m from Northland. Then getting your equity wiped out by doubling the float with $AXTI or $IREN. At least with AXT it’s a shareholder vote. IREN ATM is ongoing.
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拿 GME/AMC 作比，认为 IREN 的大幅增发对普通股东很伤。
如果你是 $GME、$AMC 的 CEO，一个逻辑上可行的选择可能就是把 ATM 测试抛给散户股东，让公司受益，因为他们会接住。 但对 $IREN 的套牢者或者 meme 股来说，我个人不会就这样眼睁睁看着自己被稀释到原来 5200 万流通股的两倍左右。 我希望它别通过，因为这太蠢了。他们之前已经从 Northland 融到足够多了，这次就是掠夺性操作。
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Yes if you were $GME, $AMC CEO’s a logical choice might be to dump ATMs on a retail shareholders to benefit the company because they would take it. However $IREN bagholders or meme stocks, I would not personally just sit there and get diluted from around double the 52m share float. I hope it doesn’t pass since it’s stupid. They already raised enough from Northland and this is predatory
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解释 AXTI 增发提案的稀释幅度，认为若通过会对股价不利。
如果你在关心 $AXTI： 它在这条新的潜在稀释消息出来后跌了 21%。 董事会想再增加 5000 万股（最高可稀释到 20 亿美元级别），要在 14 号的股东投票里决定。 也就是从 7000 万股增加到 1.2 亿股。 我对 $IREN 那种 60 亿美元过度稀释也是同样看法，而我持有的 AXT 这份价格提案也是一样。 我不会“相信管理层会明智使用”这些股份，而且这份文件本身就是个危险信号。 不过话说回来，我们就看 14 号会发生什么。如果它通过了这 5000 万股的新增授权稀释，我个人不会继续持有。 但如果它没通过，我预计会反弹。
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If you’re curious about $AXTI: It’s down 21% on the new potential dilution news. Board wanted to add 50M more shares (up to $2B worth to dilute) for shareholders vote in the 14th. 70m -> 120m shares. I say this about $IREN excessive $6B dilution and it’s the same with AXT price proposal that I hold. I would not “trust in management” to use it wisely and the fact it’s filed is a red flag. That being said: we’ll see what happens on the 14th. If it passes for 50m more share authorized dilution, I personally would not hold. But it fails, I expect a recovery.
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听完评论后，投票支持 SOFI 胜过 IREN。
@AverageDipBuyer 我看完你的评论后，投票支持 $SOFI 胜过 $IREN。
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@AverageDipBuyer I'm voting for $SOFI over $IREN after reading your comment.
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怀疑 IREN 的 60 亿美元 ATM 稀释逻辑比破产素肉公司的百倍情景还合理。
@qxiAixp 我不太确定。 我觉得 $IREN 那 60 亿美元 ATM 的逻辑，可能比那些破产素肉公司的 200 倍情景还更看多一点？
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@qxiAixp I'm not sure about that. I think the logic behind $IREN's $6,000,000,000 ATM might be more bullish than the 200x case for bankrupt vegan meat companies?
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把自己列为 X 上最聪明投资者之一的话题，显得像玩笑。
X 上谁是最聪明的投资者？ 名单里有 $SOFI、$AMC、$IREN 和 $BYND。
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Who are the smartest investors on X? In the lineup we have $SOFI, $AMC, $IREN, and $BYND.
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强调股票是正和游戏，只有稀释严重时才会伤害长期持有人。
也许你还没意识到，股票和 Melania Coin 不一样，是正和游戏。只要方向判断对了，长期每个人都会受益。 人们买 $LITE、$AEHR 或 $AAOI，并不会变成“退出流动性”；随着价值创造和营收增长，价格是会持续上涨的。 公司会创造经济价值，并通过分红之类的方式回馈散户股东。 当然也有例外，比如 $SNAP 或 $IREN，如果管理层试图通过过度 SBC / 稀释来抽干价值，那就会出问题。
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Not sure if you realize yet, but stocks are positive sum gain unlike Melania Coin. Everyone benefits long term if someone is right directionally. It's not exit liquidity when people buy $LITE, $AEHR, or $AAOI and the prices go up over time because of value creation + revenue growth. Companies create economic value and return that to retail shareholders through things like dividends. There's exceptions with things like $SNAP or $IREN if there's excessive SBC/dilution if management tries to drain value.
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用 BKKT 和 IREN 的例子批评过度稀释。
@SarahLeon28397 我之前在 $BKKT 40 美元和一路因稀释下跌时也说过同样的话。 现在它已经跌到 8 美元以下了。 有意思的是，几个月前那些 $IREN 的账号当时还在卖 Bakkt。 而现在他们又在替 60 亿美元的稀释辩护，尽管前一只股票已经跌掉 90%+ 了。
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@SarahLeon28397 I said the same thing about $BKKT at $40 and on the way down with dilution. Now it’s <$8. It’s funny that the same $IREN profiles months back where the same ones shilling Bakkt. And they’re the same ones defending a $6,000,000,000 dilution after the former stock crashed 90%+ https://t.co/Iswyeq2tMZ
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指出 IREN 董事会里有同一个人，擅长向散户倾倒 ATM。
除了 Snapchat，也许…… $ASST、$IREN、$BKKT？ Iren 董事会里正好坐着一个共同的家伙。 他最出名的就是把过度 ATM 往散户头上倾倒。
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Aside from Snapchat, maybe… $ASST, $IREN, $BKKT? There happens to be a common denominator sitting on Iren’s Board of Directors. Famous for dumping excessive ATMs on retail investors. https://t.co/qGCWsGIGXD
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说 NBIS 今天上涨而 IREN 仍偏弱，可能是稀释压制。
@thekriskay 感谢你告诉我 newsletter 的情况。对，今天 $NBIS 涨了 5%+，而 $IREN 还是绿的（可能是因为稀释压住了上行空间）。
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@thekriskay Good to know about the newsletter. Yeah $NBIS is up 5%+ today while $IREN is still red (possibly because of dilution capping upside).
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调侃 IREN 阵营正在受第 3 张图的影响。
@Gubloinvestor $IREN 那帮人现在正吃到第三张图的后果。
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@Gubloinvestor The $IREN army is on the receiving end of the 3rd photo.
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说很多 IREN 持有人会新开号来刷评论。
@VinnyPolansky 这倒是帮了点忙，因为有几十个 $IREN 持有人会专门新建 X 账号来刷我的评论。
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@VinnyPolansky It does help that tens of $IREN holders create new X accounts just to spam my comments
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强调股票价格不等于市值，稀释下技术分析没意义。
@Belfort_Trading $IREN 的股价不重要，重要的是市值。 几个月后股价可能是 17 美元，但市值还是一样。 在存在过度稀释和基本面持续恶化的情况下，技术分析是没用的。
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@Belfort_Trading $IREN share price doesn’t matter. What matters is marketcap. The price could be $17 in a few months while MC stays same. TA’s don’t work when there’s excessive dilution and eroding fundamentals working against you
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批评 IREN 大幅稀释，认为 NBIS 通过差异化和客户关系更强。
我到现在还是想不通，为什么还有人会在 $IREN 上“逢低买入”。 他们搞了 60 亿美元的 ATM，把股份稀释后又卖进公开市场……还以为这会推高股价。 与此同时，$NBIS 通过差异化拿到了更多超大规模客户订单，还得到了 $NVDA 的支持。 IREN 两年前还有的那点 GW 原始资产护城河，现在几乎已经没了。 在 60 亿美元结构性稀释持续压制的情况下，很难看出这只票还能有多少上涨空间。 等现有股东先被稀释完，再考虑做多会更好。
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It still baffles me how people are still “Buying the Dip” on $IREN. Amid their $6,000,0000,000 ATM, diluted and sold into the open market. Thinking that it will increase their share price. While $NBIS was able to differentiate themselves and secure more hyperscaler deals + $NVDA backing. $IREN GW raw asset moat they had two years ago is now almost gone. It’s hard to see the stock appreciating much in value when $6,000,000,000 of structural dilution works against you in every rally. Better to wait after current shareholders get diluted first before going long.
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指出 IREN 的稀释压力远高于 Nebius。
你们觉得 $IREN 还要再摊 56.5 亿美元的稀释吗？ 如果你看多 Neocloud，真的很意外还有人没转去 $NBIS 或其他名字。 一个已经确认拿到 $NVDA 资金和机构可转债支持。 另一个则很可能在通过公开市场持续卖新股，从散户身上筹钱。 残酷的现实是： $IREN 根本无法在不靠这个的情况下把剩余产能变现。这不是“可选性”。 在挑选谁能带来股权升值时，财务结构的细微差别非常重要。 Nebius 的融资结构明显更好，这一点已经反映在年初至今的回报里了。
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Do you guys think there’s only $5,650,000,000 dilution to go with $IREN? Very surprising that people haven’t switched to $NBIS or other names if you’re long Neoclouds. One already has confirmed funding with $NVDA + convertibles from institutions. The other is likely actively selling new shares on the open market to get funding off retail shareholders. The sad reality is: $IREN simply cannot monetize the rest of their capacity without using that. It’s not “optionality”. Financial structure nuance matters when you’re choosing winners for equity appreciation. Nebius is clearly has the better financing structure and this is already showing up in YTD returns.
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指出 IREN 高管能增发稀释，拿 SNAP 作对照。
@DamienWong20 $IREN 的高管们其实可以用一种叫 SBC 的东西给自己发更多股份。 看看 $SNAP，员工每年能拿到 10 亿美元以上的奖励，而股价却一直在跌。
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@DamienWong20 There's something called SBC where $IREN executives can issue more shares to themselves. Take a look at $SNAP, the company awards employees $1B+ every year while stock prices keep dropping.
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看多 IREN 但担心 60 亿 ATM 的结构性稀释，如果融资完成会重新考虑做多。
基本就是这样。我去年一直看多 $IREN。 但因为那 60 亿美元的 ATM，我现在极度看空，原因是结构性压制。可如果他们真能在稀释老股东之后把这笔钱都融到位。 我会考虑再转回做多。 这纯粹就是稀释带来的市场机制……
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Yes, basically it. I’ve been bullish on $IREN last year. But with the $6B ATM I’m extreme bearish due to structural overhang. But if they manage to raise all that after diluting existing shareholders. I’d consider flipping long again. This is just market mechanics of dilution…
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建议 IREN 这种票割肉离场，去找没有稀释封顶的更好机会。
@0xInitialAce 对像 $IREN 这种票，认亏离场可能更好。 这样你就能去追那些不会被稀释限制上行空间的更好机会。 这只是我个人的两分钱看法，大家完全可以继续当流动性，去接那 60 亿美元的稀释。
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@0xInitialAce Cutting at a loss might be better with things like $IREN. So you can chase better opportunities that don’t have capped upside from dilution. Just my two cents, people are free to be liquidity and buy into the $6B dilution.
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说人身攻击也不会让 60 亿 ATM 消失。
@FransBakker9812 不好意思告诉你……但编造的人身攻击并不会让那 60 亿美元的 ATM 消失。
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@FransBakker9812 Sorry to break it to you… but made up personal attacks doesn’t make a $6,000,000,000 ATM disappear
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劝读原帖，别把 60 亿 ATM 当噪音。
@maxpoop69 还是先把原帖读一下可能会有帮助。 也许这就是为什么还有人觉得 $IREN 那 60 亿美元的 ATM 只是噪音，还以为股价能涨 10 倍——因为他们根本不看文件？ https://t.co/JI6DfdsxdX
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@maxpoop69 Might be helpful to read the post. Maybe this is why people still think $6B $IREN ATMs are noise and their stock prices are going to go up 10x since they don’t read filings? https://t.co/JI6DfdsxdX
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警告$IREN的60亿美元ATM大规模稀释将清算散户股权，历史先例已证明结局惨烈
$IREN 提交了文件，计划以 117 亿美元市值稀释 60 亿美元。 这不是噪音。 这是 Iren 通过向公开市场发售所有新股来变现 4.5GW 容量的方式。 如果你想了解这类操作的历史结果： 看看 $BKKT 在 Mike 手下暴跌 99% 的先例，以及 $IREN 董事会过去大规模 ATM（按市价发行）的历史。或者他最近的公司 $ASST。 这对公司和高管是增值的：因为这清算了所有散户股东，而他们总可以发行 SBC（股权激励）。 所以他们实际上并不在乎股价需要达到什么水平才能发售。 完成之后，他们将拥有 60 亿美元新现金用于扩张，而无需支付利息。 但可转换票据附带利息、以及 $NVDA 资助资产负债表的模式对散户资金好得多的原因是： 因为它不需要清算散户股权就能实现这一点。因为目前看来 $IREN 像是数据中心版的 $AMC，拥有不断缩小的护城河，以及即将有 60 亿美元新股涌入公开市场。 我发帖讨论 $IREN 的原因是： - 人们将 60 亿美元 ATM 视为"噪音"而不予理会 - 它是最受散户欢迎的"抄底"标的之一，而这些散户正在买入一个 60 亿美元稀释机器 - 人们仍然完全不了解其中的风险 - 他们目前的资金量不足以支撑 GPU/GW 容量的货币化 - 他们很可能必须使用 ATM，这不是"选择性" 再次声明：我在这家公司零仓位。 我只是警告散户投资者，这个 ATM 的结构性机制如何通过 60 亿美元以上的 ATM 运作来从结构上抹杀你的股权增值。 因为 $IREN 可能需要在任何价格出售新股来变现他们的 GW，否则就没有必要提交这个文件。 高管们实际上不需要担心，因为他们可以通过发行 SBC 来弥补股价下跌，就像 $SNAP 一样。 如果你还在疑惑你的股权是否会被大规模 ATM 清算： 还有更好的做多选择，比 $IREN 更值得。
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$IREN filed to dilute $6,000,000,000 at a $11.7B MC. That is not noise. This is Iren's way to monetize their 4.5GW capacity by selling all those new shares onto the open market. If you want some history on how this turns out: Look at $BKKT that crashed 99% with Mike and $IREN board of directors history with excessive ATMs. Or his recent company $ASST. It’s accretive to the company and executives: Because it wipes out all retail shareholders and they can always issue SBC. So they don’t actually care what stock price it needs to be at to sell. After they’re finished, they have $6B in new cash to use for scaling without paying interest. But the reason why convertible notes with interest, and $NVDA funding balance sheets is much better for retail capital: Is because it doesn’t wipe out retail equity to achieve this. Because at this point $IREN looks like the $AMC of datacenters with a dwindling moat, and looming $6B in shares sold into the open market. Reason I post about $IREN is because - people dismiss a $6B ATM as “Noise” - it’s one of the most popular retail “buy the dip” companies that they’re buying into a $6B dilution machine - people still don’t understand the risk at all. - the amount they have now is not enough to finance GPUs/GW capacity monetization. - they likely will have to use the ATM, it’s not “optionality” Again: I have zero positions in the company. I’m just warning retail investors that this ATM structurally wipes out your equity appreciation by how structural mechanics of $6B+ ATMs work. Because $IREN likely needs to sell new shares at any price to monetize their GW, otherwise there would be zero need to file it. Executives actually don't need to care because they can make up for stock price dropping by issuing SBC like $SNAP. If you have to wonder if your equity gets wiped out from an excessive ATM: There are better longs out there than $IREN.
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再次强调 60 亿美元稀释和二级市场卖股不是噪音。
@BonyBallf2 @Kaizen_Investor 对 $IREN 来说，60 亿美元的稀释和往公开市场卖股，绝对不是“噪音”。
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@BonyBallf2 @Kaizen_Investor $6,000,000,000 dilution and sales into the open market for $IREN is not "noise".
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拿 PL 对比，认为 IREN 的 60 亿 ATM 会让绝大多数人离场。
如果一家 110 亿美元市值的 $PL 公司申报了 60 亿美元的稀释，我基本确定大家都会离场。 $IREN 之所以申报 60 亿美元 ATM，是因为那种“钻石手”“逢跌买入”的信徒社区，愿意吞下稀释，只要公司最后成功就行，而不在乎自己的股权被摊薄。
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If $PL, the $11B company filed for a $6,000,000,000 dilution, I'm pretty sure everyone would leave their positions. The reason why $IREN filed for a $6B ATM is because the cult "diamond hands", "buy the dip" community are happy to tank the dilution as long as the company succeeds over their equity appreciating.
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认为 IREN 现在的股东是在给扩张买单，融资完成后再做多更合理。
我真的很难不同意我对这件事的判断。 我说过 $IREN 长期是增厚的。但短期持有人是在通过被稀释，给这波扩张买单。 所以，对股权增值来说，最好的做法是等他们把融资做完之后再做多，而不是在他们还在积极稀释的时候买。 $IREN 如果不是真的需要用这个 60 亿美元 ATM，就不会去申报它。尤其是为了把 4.5GW 容量货币化。
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I really find it hard to disagree with my assessment. I said $IREN was accretive long term. But short term holders are the one funding the buildout by getting diluted. So the best thing to do for equity appreciation is go long after they get the funding, not while they're actively diluting. $IREN would not file a $6B ATM just for "optionality" if they didn't need to use it. Especially to monetize their 4.5GW capacity.
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认为超大规模云厂商需要的是当下的电力与土地，neocloud 有短期护城河窗口。
@futureproof_inv 超大规模云厂商需要的是今天的电力……不是五年后的电力。 这就是为什么像 $NBIS 或 $IREN 这样的 neocloud 正好卡在一个甜蜜点：它们有一小段时间去建立可防御的护城河，并成为下一个 AWS。 短期内的电力/土地本身并不是可防御的护城河。
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@futureproof_inv Hyperscalers need power today... not in 5 years time. That's why neoclouds like $NBIS or $IREN hit that sweet spot where they have a short time period to grow a defensible moat and become the next AWS. Short term power/land is not a defensible moat.
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对比IREN与SIVE稀释规模，认为SIVE风险回报更优
@Jornka329996 @gude57856 $IREN正在稀释超过60亿美元的股份，却无人关注。$SIVE可能需要稀释1500-2000万美元来扩大连续波(CW)激光业务板块，开始成长为下一个$LITE？风险回报特征对我而言更青睐像$SIVE这样的名字。
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@Jornka329996 @gude57856 $IREN is out there diluting $6B+ and nobody bats an eye. $SIVE could potentially dilute $15M-20M to scale up CW laser segments and start growing into the next $LITE? Risk reward profiles favor names like $SIVE for me.
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说去年看好 IREN，但现在担心是谁在给它的 GW 扩张买单。
我去年看到了 $IREN 的巨大潜力。 我后来转空的原因是……到底是谁在为它的 GW 产能货币化提供资金？答案是现有持有人在被稀释。 $IREN 申报 60 亿美元 ATM，是因为他们大概率没有别的方式来融资。 等他们已经靠稀释把扩张资金筹好之后，我会考虑再次转多。
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I saw large potential with $IREN last year. The reason I flipped bearish is because... who is funding the monetization of their GW capacity? It's existing holders getting diluted. $IREN filed a $6B ATM since they likely didn't have any other way to finance it. I would consider flipping long again after they already financed their buildout from dilution.
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支持 Aschenbrenner 的很多长仓，但对 CRWV 和 IREN 单独看空，原因在于融资和稀释。
当然，我很尊重 Aschenbrenner，他大多数多头，比如 $BE 和 $LITE，都非常优秀。我最近也很少再看到像 Situational Awareness 这样水平的基金。 但话说回来：我非常不同意单独看多 $CRWV 和 $IREN。 如果我站在反方来看： $IREN 有很多原始产能。去年我看多，是因为大家都以为他们可以通过轻资产 colo 把它货币化。 但他们选择了高度稀释的 ATM 和 GPU 路线来变现。我仍然认为他们也可以做 colo，而且不需要碰 ATM；只是我觉得这种可能性很低。 $CRWV、$NVDA 和美国政府也许会继续给它托底，降低下行风险和传染性。 他们的软件编排做得很漂亮……
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Sure, I have a lot of respect for the Aschenbrenner, vast majority of his longs like $BE and $LITE are stellar. I haven't really seen a fund like Situational Awareness in awhile. That being said: strongly disagree with $CRWV and $IREN individually. If I'm playing devils advocate: $IREN has a lot of raw capacity. Last year I was long since everyone thought they could monetize that through asset-lite colo. But they chose heavily dilutive ATMs and GPUs to monetize that. They still can do colo and not tap into the ATM. I just thought that's very unlikely. $CRWV, $NVDA and US Gov might just keep it backstopped and lower downside risk/contagion. They've nailed software orchestration for high margins and have real backlog/revenue. Then they can always figure out a way to refinance. Macro in general just doesn't favor capex heavy companies right now.
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对比三只Neocloud股票，认为$NBIS是最佳选择，$CRWV融资结构致命，$IREN长期增值但短期散户不利
我对$NBIS、$IREN、$CRWV以及当前Neocloud市场的看法。 其中一家将在5年内成为下一个AWS： 我的猜测是Nebius。 这不是赢家通吃（DigitalOcean与亚马逊并存），但显然有更优越的结构和可能的赢家。 不利因素： ->伊朗冲突导致降息的可能性很低。 ->更广泛的市场似乎不愿意资助CapEx周期。但又想从中获益。 关于$IREN： 我们理解，4.5GW = X收入。但谁来资助GPU？ 无论谁现在买入$6,000,000,000的ATM。 赢家将是稀释完成后进入的任何人。 现实是，如果没有colo模式，他们没有足够的资金来通过GPU货币化其容量。 而且他们没有找到其他融资方式，因此由于一个会买入他们出售的任何东西的邪教社区，他们选择了ATM。 然而，我同意长期来看这是增值的。只是对现在买入的散户没那么有利。 关于$CRWV： 他们做对了一切... $NVDA支持。超大规模客户... 但他们融资完全错了。现在，超过$1.5B+的年度债务利息正在吞噬Coreweave的利润并侵蚀FCF。 就像信用卡债务一样，Coreweave找到工作来偿还债务，但最终债务利息太高，工作收入不足以覆盖债务和扩张。 如果有任何公司倒闭，$CRWV是第一个因巨额债务和利息而倒下的。 关于$NBIS： 他们正在尽可能做好... $NVDA提供$2B资助capex。 可转债发行（可转债做空对冲对短期价格上涨不利）。 但这是比Coreweave更好的融资结构，利息低得多。 他们现在有来自$META和$MSFT的约$460亿+订单积压，这两家是最盈利的超大规模云服务商之一，且没有像Coreweave那样直接关联OpenAI的风险传染。 与其他公司不同的是；他们的其他公司也有增值（Clickhouse股权增值：avride机器人出租车规模化；toloka三位数增长）。 从我来看：Nebius是明显的赢家。 然而，当前宏观环境不利于整个板块的短期持有者，指数下跌7%。 尤其是如果他们在ATM活跃时买入的话。 长期来看，当他们规模化后获益时（例如$NBIS 2026年Q4，是的，甚至$IREN），收益将是巨大的。
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My thoughts on $NBIS, $IREN, $CRWV and the current Neocloud market. One of them ends up as the next AWS in 5 years: My guess it’s Nebius. It's not winner takes all (DigitalOcean is there with Amazon), but there's clearly superior structures and likely winners. The downside: -> Low chance of rate cuts from Iran conflict. ->Broader market doesn't appear to want to fund the CapEx cycle. But want to reap the benefits With $IREN: We get it, 4.5GW = X revenue. But who is funding the GPUs? Whoever is buying into the $6,000,000,000 ATM right now. The winners will be whoever enters after holders get fully diluted. The reality is, they don't have enough funding to monetize their capacity through GPUs without colo models. And they didn't find other financing methods, so they went through ATMs because of a cult community that will buy into anything they sell. However, I agree it will be accretive long term. Just not as much for the retail buying in now. With $CRWV: They did everything right... $NVDA backing. Hyperscaler clients... But they financed completely wrong. Now, $1.5B+ yearly debt interest is eating Coreweave alive and cuts into FCF. Almost like credit card debt, Coreweave gets a job to pay off that debt, but eventually, the debt interest is too high that working doesn't really cover that and expansion too. If any company goes down, $CRWV is the first to go the massive debt load and interest. With $NBIS: They're doing as much as they can right... $NVDA funding $2B to fund capex. Convertible note offerings (convertible note short hedging is annoying for short term price appreciation). But this is the best way to do financing structures with much lower interest than Coreweave. They now have ~$46B+ in backlog from $META and $MSFT, two of the most profitable hyperscalers out there, without direct OpenAI linked contagion like Coreweave. And unlike others; there’s appreciation from their other companies (Clickhouse equity appreciation: avride robotaxi scale up; toloka triple digit growth) From my take: Nebius is the clear winner. However, current macro environments does not favor short term holders across the board with indexes dropping 7%. Especially so if they're buying into active ATMs. Long term, the benefits when they scale up eg. $NBIS Q4 2026 (yes, even $IREN), will be immense.
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认为 IREN 的 60 亿 ATM 和 VCX 的 NAV 错配都会给股价造成结构性压力。
$IREN 现在有 60 亿美元的新卖压。这种 ATM 会在任何反弹里都形成结构性压制。 如果市值只有 110 亿美元，而他们却在公开市场上卖出最高 60 亿美元的新股对着你砸。 我不会在 ATM 结束、现有持有人完成稀释之前做多。 $VCX 也是一样，如果你是在 SpaceX 估值 3400 亿美元、但自己却在 2000% NAV 上交易的地方玩，最后数学迟早会对你不利。
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With $IREN, you have $6B in newly minted selling pressure. This ATM is structural overhang in any rally. If the marketcap is $11 Billion and they're selling up to $6,000,000,000 worth of new shares against you in the open market. I would not go long until the ATM is finished and existing holders get diluted. Same with $VCX, if you're trading at 2000% NAV of SpaceX (valued at $34 Trillion), eventually the math will work against you.
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提醒用 NAV 失配和 IREN 的 ATM 去看 VCX 的暴跌逻辑。
$VCX 又跌了 40%。 两天累计跌幅达到 -62.35%。 这很好地提醒我们，有时候真该看看数学…… 尤其是这些名字背后的东西（NAV 错配），再加上像 $IREN 这种 60 亿美元 ATM 申报。 https://t.co/dj1iKO8YLP
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$VCX is down another 40%. Totaling -62.35% drop in two days. Good reminder that sometimes it’s good to look at the math…. Behind these names (NAV mismatch), especially with others like $IREN and $6B ATM filings. https://t.co/dj1iKO8YLP
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认为 IQE 处于困境但有价值，可能会被 LITE 或 Landmark 收购。
@rGeQM1SvLq29316 @Blinklebloop $IQE 的确已经陷入困境，但它其实拥有最高的内在价值。就像 $IREN 的 GW 产能来自比特币挖矿一样。只需要把业务改造成 InP 再重组就行。 我非常确定 $LITE 或 Landmark 会有兴趣收购这家公司。
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@rGeQM1SvLq29316 @Blinklebloop $IQE is legitimately in distress but has the highest amount of inherent value (like $IREN GW capacity from Bitcoin mining. Just need to refactor to InP and restructure. I’m very sure $LITE or Landmark are interested in buying the company
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概述自己的打法：先识别新兴赛道，再沿整条供应链做多，同时强调风控和透明。
如果你现在还不了解我的风格： 我会先识别即将起来的赛道（光子学、存储、无人机），然后沿着整条供应链去做多。 当然，我也不是每次都对。 $AVAV 和无人机板块是我今年除 $RDDT 外亏得最多的（不过 $OSS 最后涨了 60%+）。 我仍然从基本面上相信像 $AIRO、$LPTH 等公司长期都非常扎实。（$AIRO 现在仍然涨了大约 15%，但它曾经 70%+ 的涨幅大部分都没了，Draganfly 跌得更多。） 而且光看 $SNDK 这种超级周期，就会产生一种非常不现实的预期，觉得每个月都能涨 100%。 我在那个板块里识别的主要催化，是委内瑞拉入侵带来的隐蔽无人机 + 前沿防御合同 / 分包商需求。 我也预期后续会有资金继续流入这个板块。 不过，在格陵兰协议那一段，我提过自己已经开始降风险了（大多数防务承包商都跌了），但我还是保留了像 $AVAV 这种较小仓位。 SCAR 项目输给其他公司，比如 $AVAV，这也是个更大的意外，我亏得更多。 不幸的是，伊朗战争这次主要冲击的是像 L3 Harris、$NOC 这种更大的防务承包商，以及像 Anduril 这样的私营公司，还有一些定向能供应商，比如 $LASR。 所以无人机公司并没有多少顺风修复。 尽管如此，我确实知道怎么止损。 但我还是经常被人喷，说“看你今年早些时候喜欢过的 X 股票”。 在这件事上我很透明：$IREN 社区里某些高管，在他们的粉丝因为 $BKKT 或 $ASST 稀释后亏掉 90% 之后，会把所有帖子都删掉。 我挑的多数股票基本面都非常扎实，所以从最初 thesis 出来以后，它们要么守住了自己的价位。 而且我也会把风险等级 / 信念等级一起写出来（风险高的当然下行也更大）。 我比那些只会发热评的人更有 skin in the game。 所以如果我的 thesis 错了，我自己也会亏钱（这种例子还有很多，像 $AVAV 这种就是无穷无尽的亏损）。 但我会把所有东西都留着，让你们自己看事情最后怎么演变。
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If you don't know my style by now: I identify upcoming sectors (photonics, memory, drones), then go long on the entire supply chain. I'm not always right, though. $AVAV and the drone sectors were my biggest losses this year outside of $RDDT ( $OSS did end up 60%+ ). I still believe fundamentally companies like $AIRO, $LPTH and others are extremely solid long term. ( $AIRO is still up ~15%, but lost majority of it's 70%+ gains, Draganfly dropped way more) And there's very unrealistic expectations from looking at $SNDK supercycles that everything can go up 100% a month. The main catalyst I've identified around that sector was the Venezuela invasion's usage of hidden drone + edge defense contracts/subcontractors. And I expected there to be follow-up funding into the sector. However, I mentioned I de-risked around the Greenland deal (majority of defense contractors crashed) but kept smaller concentration in stuff like $AVAV. SCAR program loss to others like $AVAV was even a bigger surprise and I lost even more. Unfortunately, the War in Iran focused around larger defense contractors like L3 Harris, $NOC and private companies like Anduril, and some energy directed suppliers like $LASR. So there weren't many tailwind recoveries for drone companies. That being said, I do know how to cut losses. But I still get a lot of crap saying oh look at "X stock they've liked earlier in the year". I'm very transparent when it comes to these things: A certain executive in the $IREN community are known to delete all their posts after their followers lose 90% on $BKKT or $ASST post-dilution. Majority of my stocks I identify are extremely solid fundamentally so they either hold their level since my original thesis. And I post risk-levels / conviction-levels with them too (risky ones obviously have more downside). I have skin in the game compared to others that just post hot takes. So if my thesis is wrong, I lose money personally (there's ton of more fills like this, just endless losses on $AVAV). But I leave everything up so you can see how things play out.
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建议与其被 ATM 限制，不如去追求股权上行。
@SwellAndFlow 还是追求股权增值更好，而不是被 $IREN 这个正在进行的 ATM 结构性封顶。 我觉得你这次选得对。
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@SwellAndFlow It's probably better to chase equity appreciation rather than being structurally capped by $IREN's active ATM. I think you made the right choice.
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说自己并没有 IREN 仓位，只是在 X 上分享看法。
@CoastalInvstmnt 我没有任何 $IREN 的持仓。 我只是把自己的想法发在 X 上。
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@CoastalInvstmnt I don’t have any open positions in $IREN. Just sharing my thoughts on X
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指出 60 亿美元 ATM 会结构性压制上行，但持有人却因此攻击他。
@SPACMANAGER 先指出一个事实：‘60 亿美元的活跃 ATM 会在结构上封顶上行空间’。 $IREN 持有人却说：‘你这是错的，因为你就是个 loser’。
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@SPACMANAGER Points out a fact: “A $6B active ATM structurally caps upside” $IREN holder: “this is wrong because you’re a loser”
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强调 IREN 有 60 亿 ATM，涨幅上限已被封住，不如选没有结构天花板的标的。
@bennybigbull 我不是说 $IREN 会崩或者会下跌。 我更细致的意思是：当有一个正在进行的 60 亿美元 ATM 时，上行空间会被封顶。 所以最好还是选那些没有结构性天花板的股票。
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@bennybigbull Not saying $IREN is going to crash or go down. My nuanced point is that upside is capped when there’s an active $6B ATM. So it’s better to just go with equities without a structural ceiling.
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调侃这是 IREN 持有者在评论区的标准嘴硬说法。
@PizzaLuv 别担心。 这基本就是 $IREN 持有人在评论区的标准反击： ‘你一周赚 1560 美元？那我七天也赚 1560 美元。’
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@PizzaLuv Dont worry. This is basically the standard $IREN holder comeback in the comments: "You make $1560 a week? Well I make $1560 in seven days"
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用巴菲特反向比喻 IREN：不是买入赚钱机器，而是买入会被稀释的公司。
@StocksAREnuts Buffett 买的是能产生巨额自由现金流的盈利公司。 $IREN 则是反向巴菲特：你买进去的是一家会不断稀释你的公司。
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@StocksAREnuts Buffett buys profitable companies generating enormous amounts of FCF. $IREN is reverse Bufffett where you’re buying into companies to be diluted
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认为比起 IREN，还有更好的同赛道选择，NBIS 融资更好、AAOI 资本开支更轻。
比 $IREN 更好的机会其实很多。 如果你想留在同一个赛道，$NBIS 显然更好，因为它的 CapEx 融资方式更优（$NVDA 提供了 20 亿美元资金）…… 另外还有像 $AAOI 这种公司，它用更少的 CapEx 就能在营收和利润上超过 $IREN。 但如果你还是想持有 $IREN，也许更好的做法是等大家都被稀释完、为扩建买单之后再重新进场，去收获后面的果实。
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Much better opportunities out than $IREN. If you want the same sector, $NBIS is objectively better when you look at how they finance capex ( $NVDA $2B funding )… Then there’s others like $AAOI that leapfrogs $IREN revenue + profit, with less capex. But if you still want to hold $IREN, probably better to re-enter after everyone gets diluted to fund their buildout and reap the rewards after.
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批评持有$IREN者被套牢还看涨，质疑其投资逻辑
我真的对那些还持有$IREN的人感到惊讶。 想象一下，市值接近60亿美元…… 最终被稀释，在每次股市反弹时都被抛售到公开市场…… 然后还看涨？ 如果你为了100-200%+的年初至今涨幅而避开$SNDK或$AAOI。 因为你把公司看得比自己的投资组合回报更重要。 你就陷入了特殊的$AMC套牢族境地。
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I’m genuinely impressed there’s people out there holding $IREN. Imagine getting close to half the market cap… ~$6B eventually diluted, sold into the open market against every stock rally… then still being bullish? If you’re avoiding $SNDK or $AAOI for 100-200%+ YTD. Because you care more about a company over your own portfolio returns. You’re in the special $AMC bagholding territory.
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认为 IREN 的 60 亿美元 ATM 会压制上行，反驳大量持有人情绪化评论。
@Spiralout_one 是啊，我每天都能收到很多 $IREN 持有者愤怒的 spam 评论。 原来直接说一个 60 亿美元的 ATM 会压制上行，对他们来说这么有争议，因为他们觉得光凭图表里一根波浪线，就能让 60 亿美元新发行的卖压把股价翻四倍。
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@Spiralout_one Yeah I get a lot of $IREN spam comments from angry holders every day. Turns out saying that a $6B ATM caps upside is controversial to them as they think $6 Billion in newly minted selling pressure makes the stock quadruple in value from a swiggly line on a chart TA.
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分析Sivers和IQE在硅光子学供应链中的卡位，看好其从传统业务向InP光子学的转型机会。
$SIVE/$SIVEF和$IQE。Sivers为CPO/硅光子学(SiPh)制造激光阵列和CW DFB激光器。并且已经嵌入超大规模云厂商如$AMZN和$MSFT集群的供应链，作为Captive模式如$MRVL Celestial和Merchant模式如Ayar的光源。然后他们通过晶圆(win)认证来提升产能，这样在内部扩产时不会消耗太多资本支出。$IQE是InP外延片(epiwafer)供应商，正在将legacy沉积反应器重构用于光子学供应链。他们已经是$LITE的已知供应商，另一大供应商是Landmark，估值约40亿美元（但产能潜力较小）。这基本上相当于将$IREN或$RIOT的比特币矿工转为HPC，但针对的是光子学。有相当多的债务，但这更多是在赌台湾销售能通过，以及管理层会转向InP生产以获得重新评级。所以这两家是我目前最看好的。
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$SIVE / $SIVEF and $IQE. Sivers makes laser arrays and cw dfb lasers for cpo/silicon photonics. And is embedded into hyperscaler supply chains like $AMZN and $MSFT clusters as the light source from captive models like $MRVL celestial from $POET and merchant models from Ayar. Then they’re up capacity through win qualification, so they don’t burn as much capex scaling in house. $IQE is InP epiwafer and refactoring reactors from legacy drag to photonic supply chains. They’re already a known $LITE supplier and the other biggest one is Landmark sitting around ~$4B (with less latent capacity). This is basically the equivalent of $IREN or $RIOT turning their Bitcoin miners into HPC, but for photonics. There’s a decent amount of debt, but this is more of a guess that their Taiwan sales will go through and management will pivot toward InP production for rerating. So those two are my favorites right now
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对比不同赛道的毛利率和资本开支，认为 photonics 相比重资本 neocloud 更轻。
它们属于不同的行业、不同的毛利率，也有不同的资本开支需求。 $NBIS 和 $IREN 通常需要很重的稀释或融资来买 GPU，但从长期看通常仍然是增值的。 光子业务的资本开支通常轻得多，毛利结构也不一样。
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They are different sectors, gross margins, and different capex requirements. $NBIS and $IREN typically require heavy dilution or financing to buy GPUs, but typically are accretive in the long run. Photonics operate might lighter in capex, different gross margin profile. Different growth rate. So can’t compare 1:1
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认为 neocloud 的数据中心如果有更酷的命名，估值可能会更高。
这是我的一个热观点： 像 $NBIS 或 $IREN 这样的 neocloud，如果把数据中心起个更酷的名字，估值可能会高 1.3 倍。 酷名字示例： - $POET 的 “Starlight” - $NVDA 的 “Blackwell” 但数据中心呢？ - $IREN 的 “Prince George” - $CIFR 的 “Barber Lake” 为什么要把 AI 数据中心命名成你的理发师名字，或者英国小孩的昵称？ 我发誓，除了现有投资者之外，没人会对 Iren 的 “Prince George” 数据中心上线感到兴奋。 但如果大家都看到 $NBIS 的 “Singularity” AI 数据中心上线，那听起来就酷多了。 Nebius 现在本该值 400 亿美元了。
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This is my hot take: Neoclouds like $NBIS or $IREN would command 1.3X higher valuation... If they renamed their datacenters to something cool. Cool Name Examples: - $POET "Starlight" - $NVDA "Blackwell" But datacenters? - $IREN "Prince George" - $CIFR "Barber Lake" Why are you naming an AI datacenter after your hair cut stylist or a British Kid nickname? I swear, nobody outside existing investors are going to hyped over Iren's "Prince George" datacenters coming online. But if everyone see's $NBIS "Singularity" AI DC coming online, that just sounds badass. Nebius would be worth $40B by now.
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把 IQE 看作光子领域的 IREN 版，认为它拥有产能，只需要重组和向 AI / 光子转型。
$IQE 就是我在光子领域里的 $IREN 等价物。 它们有反应器和产能。而且也不是什么无人知晓的公司，因为它们本来就是 $LITE 的已知供应商。 它们只需要彻底摆脱历史包袱，重新梳理债务（可以通过台湾资产出售来处理），然后把重心转向 AI 光子化。
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$IQE is my $IREN equivalent for photonics. They have the reactors and capacity. And they’re not some unknown company as they’re a known $LITE supplier. They just need to completely restructure away from legacy drag, restructure debt from Taiwan asset sales, and pivot to photonics for AI.
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强调 thesis 会随催化剂变化而更新，近期对战争股、无人机和部分瓶颈股重新转多。
感谢你指出这一点。如果你有认真看过我的帖子，你就会发现我的 thesis 其实是会变的。 市场会随着每次财报和新的催化剂（比如宏观）不断更新。 像 $SNAP 这种，如果 SBC 没有明显下降，我就会转空并退出仓位。 但如果 gcloud opex + 变现能力真的能改变局面，Evan 又把 SBC 砍下来，那它也可能被重新定价。 $VPG 我之前发过关于 Optimus BOM 改用中国供应商做量产的新闻。 最近的冲突之后，我其实又重新看多战争股、无人机公司，以及 $LPTH。 $OSS 我们也看到它涨了差不多 80%？ $VLN 我仍然觉得它被低估，只是现在价格基本和我发帖时差不多。 大家老是截图我去年看多 $IREN 的帖子，可如果它们又开一个 60 亿美元 ATM，我也能立刻转空。 很多人误以为“我在某个时间点看多”，就等于我跟一只股票结婚了；但其实只要催化剂变了，我的看法就会变。 不过话说回来，我还是喜欢像 $LPTH 和 $OSS 这样的东西，德国锗瓶颈和边缘计算的逻辑并没有变。 和 $NBIS 一样，有些东西就是需要时间去兑现。
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Appreciate you calling me out on that. If you ever read my posts, my thesis can change. Markets are constantly updating every earnings with new catalysts such as macro. For things like $SNAP I flipped bearish when SBC didn’t go down materially and exited my positions. But gcloud opex + monetization can materially flip it if Evan cuts SBC. $VPG i published news on Optimus BOM switching to Chinese suppliers for production. I’m actually bullish on war stocks again, drone companies, and $LPTH again due to recent conflicts. That was following the Venezuela conflicts. $OSS is up like 80%? $VLN I still think it’s undervalued but it’s around the same price I posted. People are still screenshotting me saying I’m bullish on $IREN from last year but if they launch a $6 billion ATM, I can turn bearish. Think people mistake being bullish in one point in time to married to a stock, when things materially change based on catalysts. That being said I still like things like $LPTH and $OSS, nothings changed about germanium bottlenecks or edge computing. And like $NBIS sometimes they need time to play out.
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明确表达做空 IREN、做多 NBIS。
@BTCSuperCycle 做空 $IREN，做多 $NBIS
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@BTCSuperCycle Short $IREN, long $NBIS
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总结十条研究股票时常见误区
我在 X 上一遍又一遍看到的 10 个常见谬误。 也是我自己做研究时最重要的警惕项之一： 1. 处在“拥挤”交易里的名字，比如 $LITE 或 $COHR，并不意味着这些票不会继续涨。 （看看 Nvidia 从 2022 到 2026 年就知道了。） 2. 不要把供应链里的瓶颈和关键公司（比如 SpaceX 或 Nvidia）直接等同于股价回报。 真正重要的是它如何转化为实质性的经营利润。 我提 $AXTI 的原因，就是它大概率能因这个瓶颈涨价。 3. 内幕卖出是极端噪音。 我永远不会拿这个去推导预测，更不会据此算市值应该是多少。 4. 再重复一遍：技术分析只是指标，不是圣经。 别再在我的 Soitec 帖子下面贴 TA 然后说“超涨了！！！”了，完全不看基本面、催化剂或宏观。 尤其在基本面发生剧烈变化的时候，TA 更没意义，比如 60 亿美元的稀释，或者像 $BULL、$CRCL 这样的 IPO 流通盘锁定。 5. 稀释是有区别的。 ATM 和可转债不一样，可转债和贷款也不一样。 这里面的细节非常复杂。 有些会带来更好的股东回报，有些则更伤人，比如 $IREN 那 60 亿美元 ATM。 流通盘变化、ATM 规模和市值的相对关系，都要算进去。 6. 市场是前瞻的。差别只在于它往前看多远。 别总拿过去的收入指引去证明估值合理，因为市场已经在定价未来增长，比如 $TSEM 在光子业务起量时的前瞻增长。 7. 收入/毛利/利润都极其极其复杂。 利润可以藏在税务减记里，利润率也可以藏在利润表别的地方，比如 opex 或折旧。 所以拿“毛利/利润”（比如 $IREN）去和其他 neocloud 相比，若没有把会计口径标准化，其实没什么意义。 8. 净利润不等于 GAAP 净利润。 像 $SNAP 这类公司的真实盈利能力，可能被 SBC 之类的项目掩盖掉。 当公司对媒体宣布非 GAAP 净利润 5 亿美元时，它提交给 SEC 的正式 GAAP 净亏损可能因为 SBC 变成 1.5 亿美元。 9. 流通盘动态 + 稀释很重要。 你可以说“这公司市值 1.5 亿，利润 3000 万”，但如果你忘了 X 行权价背后还有巨大的稀释压力，那你的研究基本就被扔进垃圾桶了。 10. 一定要把收入增长 / TAM 放进去。 公司一年可以增长 200%，但如果 TAM 像金融科技那样最终见顶，营收增速迟早会掉下来。 这就是为什么 $RKLB 会因为无限的太空 TAM 预期拿到溢价，而其他在金融科技里只增长 40% Y/Y 的公司却拿不到。
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Top 10 common fallacies I keep seeing again and again on X. And some of the most important things I look out for too when doing research: 1. Being in "crowded" names like $LITE or $COHR does not mean these names won't go higher. (Just look at Nvidia throughout 2022 -> 2026). 2. Don't conflate bottlenecks and critical companies in supply chains like SpaceX or Nvidia with stock market returns. What matters is how it translates to material operating income. The reason I mention $AXTI, is likely price hikes from being that bottleneck. 3. Insider Sales are the extreme noise. You will never see me quote that anywhere to derive projections and what the MC should be at. 4. Repeat after me. TA is only an indicator, not a bible. Please stop posting TAs underneath my Soitec posts to say "overextended!!!" without any reference to fundamentals, catalysts, or macro. TA's especially, mean nothing when there's extreme fundamental changes (eg. $6B in share dilution or upcoming IPO float lockup like $BULL, $CRCL). 5. DILUTION IS DIFFERENT. ATMs are different than convertible notes that are different than loans. It's extremely nuanced. Some lead to more equity returns than others that are more harmful (eg. $IREN $6B ATM). Float dynamics, ATM sizes relative to marketcap, and all others need to be accounted for. 6. Markets are forward looking. It's just a matter of how far in the future they look. Stop only posting previous revenue guidance only to justify valuations pricing in forward growth eg. $TSEM forward growth for photonics ramp. 7. Revenue/Gross Margins/Profit are extremely, extremely nuanced. Profit can be hid in tax writeoffs, and margins can be hid in other parts of the income statement like opex, or in depreciation. So posting "gross margins/profit" (eg. $IREN) and using that to justify it vs. other neoclouds means nothing if the accounting is not normalized 8. Net Income is not the same as GAAP Net Income. True profitability from companies like $SNAP are hid by things like stock-based compensation. When a company reports non-GAAP net income of $500 million to the media, their official SEC-filed GAAP net income could be a $150 million loss because of SBC. 9. Float Dynamics + Dilution are important. You can say "oh this company is $150M MC, 30m profit" but if you're forgetting there's a massive dilution overhead at X strike, then all your research gets thrown out the drain. 10. Make sure to factor in REVENUE GROWTH/TAM. You can grow a company 200% one year, but if TAM maxes out like in Fintech then revenue growth eventually falls off the cliff. Hence why $RKLB gets premiums for infinite Space TAM growth while other companies in fintech growing at 40% Y/Y don't.
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评论$AAOI将ATM规模扩至5亿美元，认为市场已吸收首轮卖压，但对过度ATM融资模式整体看空。
$AAOI提交了额外2.5亿美元的市价股票发行协议(ATM)，将总额提升至5亿美元。积极的信号是：$AAOI已完成其首个ATM。市场吸收了2.5亿美元的卖压（可能在股价涨至120美元前卖出了约1亿美元），但股价仍然上涨。修正案显示，截至2026年3月12日，根据销售协议已出售2,476,307股，获得总收益约2.49999983亿美元。然而，当涉及像$IREN或$POET这样公司的过度ATM时，我持极度看空态度，这并非针对$AAOI。如果5亿美元用于产能扩张，相比其他公司60亿美元的ATM，可能更有增值空间，人们可以等待结果。尽管如此，我对此并不满意，如果他们需要5亿美元，一开始就应该这么做。
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$AAOI files for another $250 million USD ATM, upping the amount to $500 million. The positive note is: $AAOI has already finished their first ATM. Markets absorbed $250 million in selling pressure (likely ~$100 before the stock went to $120) and the stock increased anyway. “The amendment states that 2,476,307 shares have been sold for gross proceeds of approximately $249,999,983 under the sales agreement as of March 12, 2026” However, I’m extremely bearish when it comes to excessive ATMs for any company like $IREN or $POET, and it’s not inclusive to $AAOI. $500 million for capacity expansion is likely accretive compared to other $6 billion ATMs if people want to wait it out. That being said, not happy about it and if they needed $500 million, should have done it from the start.
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惊讶有人专门发帖讨论 IREN
@anandragn 我真没想到会有人专门发一整篇帖子来聊 $IREN。
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@anandragn Never thought I’d see someone make a whole post dedicated to $IREN
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认为 IREN 上行受 60 亿 ATM 限制，NBIS 融资结构更好
不是说 $IREN 会崩。 更准确地说，短中期里 IREN 的上行空间会被 60 亿美元 ATM 限制住。 如果你要投 IREN，最好等现有持有人被高达 60 亿美元的卖压稀释得差不多之后，再去做多。 如果你追求股权升值，$NBIS 的资本开支融资结构要好得多。
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It’s not that $IREN will crash. It’s moreso short-medium term IREN’s upside is capped due to the $6B ATM. If you’re investing in IREN it’s better to wait after existing holders get diluted to oblivion from up to $6B in selling pressure, then go long after. If you’re chasing equity appreciation, $NBIS has a much superior capex financing structure.
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对比 NBIS 与 IREN 的融资结构，认为前者更优
$NBIS 和 $IREN 的差别，简直天壤之别。 Nebius：来自 $NVDA 的 20 亿美元稀释，没有立刻对公众流通盘形成卖压。 IREN：通过 ATM 稀释 60 亿美元，卖压直接打进公开市场。 这会直接从公众手里抽走流动性，并压制动量。 谁更能通过资本开支融资带来更高的股价升值，已经非常清楚了。 一个是与 Nvidia 的战略合作，另一个是有毒融资。
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$NBIS vs. $IREN. The difference is night and day. Nebius: $2B dilution from $NVDA, zero immediate selling pressure to the public float Iren: $6B dilution from ATM into selling pressure into the open market. This extracts liquidity directly from the public and suppresses momentum Very clear, which company leads to higher share value appreciation from capex financing. One is strategic with Nvidia, the other is toxic financing.
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回顾光子股涨幅，强调持有波动并关注基本面。
$AAOI 自 30 美元以来已上涨 4 倍。 如果你听了匿名者的建议，我做过研究（thesis）的每一个光子学（Photonics）名字，从 $AXTI 到 $LITE，都上涨了 2 倍、3 倍或 4 倍。 希望那些炒作“原油涨至 200 美元”或 $IREN “内部人抛售”的末日论者没有让你在 80 美元时恐慌性抛售你的头寸。 这就是为什么你要在波动中持有并关注底层基本面。 并非每家公司都能在一年内从 4.5 亿美元营收增长到 45 亿美元。
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$AAOI is now up 4x since $30. Every photonics name from $AXTI to $LITE I’ve done a thesis on increased 2x, 3x, or 4x if you listened anon? Hope the Crude Oil to $200 or $IREN troll “insider sales” doomposters didn’t make you panic sell your positions at $80. This is why you hold through volatility and look at underlying fundamentals. Not every company can go from 450m revenue to $4.5B in just one years time.
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修正$RIOT计算，建议等$IREN稀释后做多，看空其2027年表现。
我把原先 $RIOT 年初至今(YTD)的计算搞错了，所以删掉了原帖。但这原本是一个3-6个月的短期交易思路，利用 $IREN 的 ATM 增发对现有股东造成的稀释来交易。 我确实认为，如果 $IREN 能把 ATM 额度用满，长期表现会不错，因为这比 $CRWV 那种债务利息负担更好。但代价是现有持有人被稀释。 做多 $IREN 的更好方式，是先等现有股东被稀释，再在之后做多。 话虽如此，我不认为 $IREN 会在2027年跑赢这三只股票。
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Messed up my original $RIOT YTD calculations so ended up deleting my post. But, it was a 3-6M short term trade idea capitalizing off $IREN ATM on existing shareholders. I do think $IREN performs well long term if they manage to fill up the ATM since it's much better than debt interest that $CRWV does. But it's at the cost of current holders. The better way to go long with $IREN is to wait until existing shareholders get diluted first then go long after. That being said, I don't think $IREN will outperform all three in 2027.
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对比挖矿股结构优劣，认为CRWV和IREN更适合作为板块下跌的对冲工具。
@jorge_r006 $RIOT、$WULF、$NBIS 在结构上处于比 $CRWV 和 $IREN 更好的位置。因此，后两者在板块下跌时能提供更好的对冲作用。话虽如此，这只是我在深入研究后抛出的一个交易想法，我目前尚未建立任何头寸。
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@jorge_r006 $RIOT, $WULF, $NBIS look structurally in better positions than $CRWV and $IREN are. Hence why the latter two serve as better hedges in sector declines. That being said, just floating this trade idea out after doing more research, I haven't taken any positions yet.
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讽刺IREN称60亿ATM增发非稀释，质疑其逻辑。
这可能是我第一次听到有人说，60亿美元的 ATM 增发稀释实际上并不是“稀释”。 而且还说它其实是“增厚”的。 如果你真心相信这一点，并愿意为未来逐步在公开市场卖出的60亿美元新 $IREN 股票提供买盘流动性，那当然可以。
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It's probably the first time I've ever heard someone say $6B in ATM dilution was not in fact "dilutive". But in fact, "accretive". If you genuinely believe this and want to be buying liquidity for the $6 Billion in new $IREN shares sold over time into the open market, you're welcome to do so.
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赞赏投资者打破思维定势，克服路径依赖以追求更高回报。
真心赞赏你愿意打开心态。我最初加入 X 时看到的许多 FinX 投资者，尽管市场格局已发生诸多变化或存在高估，其持仓组合仍停留在 $PLTR、$HOOD、$IREN、$AMD 这类股票上。审视其他趋势，并换掉持有了一段时间的股票以追求更好的回报，这比预期中要难得多。
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Honestly applaud you for opening up your mindset. A lot of the FinX investors I've originally seen when I first joined X still have the same $PLTR, $HOOD, $IREN, $AMD type portfolios, despite a lot of shifts or overvaluation. It's a lot harder than expected to look at other trends and change your stock that you held for awhile to chase better returns.
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RDDT基本面强劲，虽波动集中需耐心，无需成邪教股亦能大涨。
谢谢夸奖我帅。别觉得 $RDDT 必须像 $IREN 或 $ASTS 那样成为“邪教股”才能上涨 50%+。基本面理应自证价值！与其他标的相比，它一年中大部分行情集中在几天内完成，所以需要一些耐心。
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I appreciate being called handsome, thank you. Don’t think $RDDT needs to end up as a cult stock like $IREN or $ASTS for it to go up 50%+. As fundamentals should speak for itself! It does make most of its moves in just a few days out of the year compared to other names, so requires some patience.
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博主强调独立思考，欣慰粉丝在复杂交易中建立信念。
听到这个很高兴！我不希望大家进行跟单交易或盲目跟随。主要目的只是分享我随行的思考，希望人们能从中有所收获。如果他们能自行建立信念，去参与像 $AXTI 这样高度复杂的交易，那就更好了。很高兴你在 $EWY 或 $IREN 的衍生品上也做到了这一点。
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That’s great to hear! I don’t want people to copy trade or just blindly follow. Main thing is just sharing my thoughts as I go and I hope people learn a few things along the way. And if they can build conviction themselves to enter a highly nuanced trade like $AXTI, that’s even better And I’m glad you did with some derivatives on $EWY or $IREN.
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澄清 $IREN 董事会即管理层，区别于普通工程师。
@LandoInvests @chiptomunk 我表述得很准确。董事会(Board of Directors)就是 $IREN 的管理层。如果是某个随机的工程师，那就不一样了。
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@LandoInvests @chiptomunk I phrased it correctly. Board of directors is $IREN management. If it were some random engineer, then no.
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指出 Mike Alfred 担任 IREN 董事
@chiptomunk 你难道不知道 Mike Alfred 是 $IREN 的董事会成员吗？
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@chiptomunk You do realize Mike Alfred sits on the board of $IREN right?
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博主回应攻击，重申对IREN等股ATM稀释的警告是出于散户利益。
谢谢，听到那个消息很遗憾。我只是试图对自动取款机(ATM)增发稀释提出合理的警告。去年我在$BKKT上也做过同样的事，当时ATM增发让所有人的股票跌入深渊。但我现在对$IREN发出警告时，却遭遇了同样的个人攻击。尽管被辱骂，我仍然站在散户投资者的最佳利益立场。
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Thanks and sorry to hear that. I’m just trying to give justified warnings about ATM dilution. I did the same with $BKKT last year before ATMs sent everyone’s shares to oblivion. But got the same personal attacks like I’m getting with $IREN now. Regardless still looking for retail’s best interest despite the name calling.
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指出IREN风险披露被无视，暗示市场处于非理性阶段。
@CK_Cryptoklepto 我们可能正处于这个阶段，因为我指出 $IREN 的风险披露(risk disclosures)就被称为机器人(bot)了，哈哈 https://t.co/DTM73USeMx
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@CK_Cryptoklepto We’re probably at this stage since I’m getting called a bot for pointing out $IREN risk disclosures lol https://t.co/DTM73USeMx
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BKKT等公司利用热点炒作后通过ATM减持，散户受损严重。
纵观 $BKKT、$ASST 以及可能的 $IREN，其策略如出一辙。围绕热门叙事（比特币库藏、AI 智能体、数据中心）制造巨大的散户炒作热度，等待股价飙升，随后立即通过定向增发(ATM)抛售股份以资助运营并支付高管基于股票的薪酬(SBC)。公司本身没问题，但个体散户股东受到的伤害最大。
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Across $BKKT, $ASST, and maybe $IREN. The strategy has been identical. Generate massive retail hype around a hot narrative (Bitcoin treasuries, AI agents, DCs), wait for the stock to spike, and immediately dump shares via ATMs to fund operations and pay executive SBCs. The companies themselves are fine but the individual retail shareholder is left hurt the most.
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呼吁理性看待 $IREN 风险及 ATM 融资争议
没错。很高兴大家能看清全貌，从而就 $IREN 的风险做出明智决策。不幸的是，为了证明 60 亿美元 ATM（自动取款机融资）的合理性，出现了大量人身攻击。但我认为任何理性的投资者都能从噪音中辨别出大方向的正确性。
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Exactly. It’s good people have the full picture so people can make informed decisions from risks with $IREN. Unfortunately there’s been a lot of personal attacks to explain why the $6B ATM is justified. But I think any rational investor can discern what’s directionally right from the noise.
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反驳对IREN和BKKT风险的忽视，指出巨额烧钱和管理层关联。
@JC_GetRichSlow 当存在60亿美元的重大现金消耗(ATM)时，这并没有为讨论增添任何价值。 此外，$IREN 管理层还参与了 $BKKT 等公司，这也是公开信息。 将明显的风险和历史记录斥为“散布恐慌”是无关紧要的。 https://t.co/QifmHkAkfR
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@JC_GetRichSlow It’s not adding nothing to the dialogue when there’s a material $6 Billion USD ATM. It’s also public information $IREN management was involved companies $BKKT as well. Dismissing clear risks and track records as “fearmongering” is immaterial. https://t.co/QifmHkAkfR
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指出IREN管理层过往记录公开，质疑信任其处理稀释的论点。
尽管你可以随意发表看法，但这无法改变事实。关于 $IREN 管理层在 $BKKT 和 $ASST 上的过往记录，所有信息都是公开的。如果某人的核心论点是“信任管理层能处理好稀释问题”，那么了解这一点确实至关重要。
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Feel free to say whatever you want, but it doesn’t change the reality of things. It’s all public information with $IREN management track record with $BKKT and $ASST. It’s definitely important to know if someone is making the primary argument of trusting in management to handle dilution
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警告 IREN 60 亿 ATM 稀释将重创散户，勿盲目信任管理层。
支持 Iren 进行 60 亿美元稀释的主要论点是： “信任 $IREN 管理层对稀释的管理能力。” 如果你查看 IREN 管理层在 $BKKT 和 $ASST 上的实际历史： 这两家公司都通过自动做市商(ATM)发行彻底摧毁了股东价值。 导致所有原始散户股份价值下跌 98-99%。 像 Bakkt 这样的公司表现尚可。 但高管的股票薪酬 + 稀释抹去了散户的所有股权价值。 如果一家公司申请 60 亿美元的 ATM 稀释，你应该预期他们会使用它并据此调整仓位。 也许 $IREN 的结果会不同。 但一边说“信任管理层”，一边看这些炒作型散户股票的管理层记录 -> ATM 稀释抹去所有价值的情况已多次发生。 公司最终可能没事，别把这和你的股票表现混为一谈。 我最关心散户股东胜过公司高管，这就是我分享关于 $IREN 60 亿 ATM 的红旗信号的原因。
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The primary argument for Iren’s $6B dilution was: “Trust in $IREN management with managing dilution.” If you look at the actual history of IREN management with: $BKKT and $ASST. Both companies have completely obliterated shareholder value from ATM dilution. Dropping all original retail share value down by 98-99%. Companies like Bakkt have been doing okay. But both stock based compensation to executives + dilution wiped out all equity value from retail. If a company files for $6 Billion in ATM dilution, you should expect them to use it and position accordingly. Maybe $IREN turns out differently. But saying “Trust in Management” then looking at the track record of management of hype retail stocks -> ATM dilution wiping out all value has happened multiple times. The company will likely end up fine don’t conflate that with the performance of your shares. I care the most about retail shareholders over corporate executives, which is why I’m sharing the red flag about $IREN $6B ATM.
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警示ATM融资对散户权益的损害及特定股票风险
我关注散户利益，并对 $CRWV 的债务利息、$RVI 的高估发行以及其他像 $AVS 这样极度稀释股权且利于套利投资者的股票进行同样的风险披露。 $IREN 并非被单独点名，但它是利用散户作为流动性来源的热门股票之一。 定向增发(ATM)可能是对散户权益最具破坏性的融资方式。
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I care about retail interests and I do the same risk disclosures around $CRWV debt interest, $RVI inflated offerings, and other extremely dilutive stocks like $UAVS that benefit arbitrage investors. $IREN is not singled out, but it’s one of the more popular ones that use retail as liquidity. ATMs are probably the most harmful financing methods for retail equity.
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澄清对IREN的分析仅为风险提示，非买卖建议。
@Peregrino1708 是的，同意。我并没有告诉人们要卖出或买入 $IREN，只是列出风险和最可能的结果。最终人们可以自由做出自己的选择。但拥有基于实质而非其他持有者带来的无关噪音的理性推理是很好的。
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@Peregrino1708 Yep, agreed. I’m not telling people to sell or buy $IREN, just laying out the risks and most likely outcomes. In the end people are free to make their own choices. But it’s good to have grounded reasoning outside of immaterial noise from other holders.
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建议等待 $IREN 稀释周期结束且散户提供流动性后再做多。
是的，这是完美的总结。人们将 $IREN 业务表现良好（我认为作为一家与 $MSFT 合作的 DC 它也会如此）与其股价表现良好混为一谈。等待现有散户/逢低买入者为 60 亿美元的稀释周期提供流动性，待其结束后再建立多头头寸，是高度理性的。
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Yes this is the perfect summary. People conflate $IREN doing well (which I think it will too as a DC with $MSFT partnership), with their share prices doing well. Waiting for existing retail/dip buyers to serve as liquidity for the $6 billion dilution cycle finishes before going long is a highly rational.
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IREN公司虽能成功，但60亿稀释压力将压制股价。
@mattpurdy89 谢谢，我的观点非常微妙。我认为 $IREN 作为一家公司会取得成功。但这并不意味着你的股价也会上涨。这仅仅是由于 $60 亿不可避免的稀释和抛售压力这一结构性现实所致。
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@mattpurdy89 Thanks, my thought is very nuanced. I think $IREN as a company will succeed. But that doesn't mean your share prices will too. That's just due to the structural realities of $6B in inevitable dilution and selling pressure.
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批评针对IREN融资的人身攻击，强调应关注实质并维护散户利益。
不幸的是，人们陷入各种人身攻击，而不是讨论 $IREN $60 亿 ATM（自动取款机融资）的实际内容和影响。这只是诚实的现实，情绪很多时候会蒙蔽判断，尤其是当你持有该股票时。无论如何，我将始终优先考虑散户投资者的利益，即使人们想继续人身攻击来为 $60 亿 ATM 辩护。
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Unfortunately people go into all sorts of character attacks instead of discussing the actual substance and implications $IREN's $6B ATM. This is just the honest reality of things, emotions cloud judgement a lot of times, especially if you hold the stock. Regardless, I'll always look out for retail interest above anyone else, even if people want to continue personal attacks to justify a $6B ATM.
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IREN稀释60亿损害散户利益，建议等待现有股东提供流动性。
是的，$IREN 这家公司在稀释 $60 亿并在公开市场抛售之后，前景可能会不错。然而，这是以牺牲当前散户股东和“逢低买入者”的利益为代价的。如果你关心股票价值的上涨，更明智的选择是等待现有持有者提供流动性。
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Yep, $IREN as a company will likely do well once they dilute $6B and sell that into the open market. However, this is at the expense of retail equity holders now and "dip buyers". The smarter alternative if you care for your value in the stock to go up is to wait until existing holders serve as liquidity.
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警告散户勿在IREN ATM融资前抄底，建议等待稀释完成后再做多。
如果你读过我的披露声明，我对 $IREN 没有任何经济利益或持仓。 我只是陈述一个残酷的现实：散户“逢低买入者”不可避免地会被稀释，并成为 $IREN 60亿美元自动取款机(ATM)融资的流动性来源。 如果你想做多 $IREN 并从股权增值中获利，让其他人先承担稀释冲击，然后再入场做多，可能是更明智的选择。 尤其是因为自动取款机(ATM)融资是更具散户破坏性的融资方式之一。
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If you read my disclosure, I have zero economic interest or positions in $IREN. I'm just stating the harsh reality that retail "dip buyers" will be inevitably be diluted and serve as liquidity for the $6 Billion ATM. Letting others take the dilution hit first and going long after is likely the smarter alternative if you want to long $IREN and benefit from equity appreciation. Especially since ATMs are one of the more retail-destructive methods to finance.
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作者指出IREN巨额定向增发将压制股价，反驳逢低买入观点。
我在此是为了保护散户利益。我对 $IREN 没有任何经济利益。正如你所说，随波逐流确实容易得多。但残酷的现实是，60亿美元的定向增发(ATM)规模巨大，将成为持有者的结构性压制因素。当一半的市场份额不可避免地通过增发并针对散户抛售时，我无法理解任何人如何能诚实地称其为“逢低买入机会”。
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I'm here to protect retail interests. I have zero economic interest in $IREN. As you mentioned, it's a lot easier to go with the flow. But the harsh reality is $6B ATM is enormous and will serve as a structural overhang for holders. I can't see how anyone could honestly say it's a "dip buying opportunity" when half of the marketcap is inevitably minted then sold against retail holders.
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IREN巨额ATM增发将严重稀释散户，建议等待稀释完成后再做多。
$IREN 60亿美元的自动取款机(ATM)增发额度非常庞大。 对于持有 $IREN 的人来说，你可能不想听到这个真相： -> 等待现有持有者被稀释到 oblivion（虚无） -> 利用他们为你“抄底”这60亿美元的新股。 -> 然后做多。 如果你现在做多： 那不可避免的60亿美元新股 + 卖压，从结构上限制了你的股权上行空间，并在任何反弹中构成压制。 公司申请60亿美元的ATM额度不是为了不用。 他们会用，并且在任何反弹中尽可能多地使用。 现实是，虽然有其他融资方式，但ATM对散户股东最具破坏性。 $IREN 本身是一家像样的公司，不像电影院股票，但正如提到的过度稀释： 你可能会看到 $IREN 的市值回升至200亿美元左右，但你的股价价值却暴跌。 简而言之：残酷的现实是 $IREN 可能在根本上成功并建立庞大的数据中心(DC)布局。 但这代价是严重稀释散户股东。散户投资者应更关心自己股票价值的增加，而非公司整体价值。 披露：我在该公司没有任何经济利益或持仓，但我确实关心优先考虑散户利益。
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$IREN $6 Billion ATM is massive. For the people who hold $IREN, the truth you might not want to hear is: -> Wait until existing holders get diluted to oblivion -> Use them to "buy the dip" of $6 Billion in new shares for you. -> Go long after. If you're long now: That inevitable $6B in new shares + selling pressure structurally caps upside in your equity and serves as a overhang in any rally. Companies don’t file a $6B ATM not to use it. They will, and as much as they can on any rally. The reality is that there are other financing methods, but ATMs are the most destructive ones to retail shareholders. $IREN itself is a solid company unlike movie theater stocks, but like excessive dilution referenced: You will likely see the marketcap of $IREN go up back toward $20B, but the your share prices tanking in value. TLDR: The harsh reality is $IREN might fundamentally succeed and build a massive DC footprint. But it's at the cost of heavily diluting retail shareholders. Retail investors should care more about the value of their own stock increasing over the company's value. Disclosure: I have zero economic interest or positions in the company, but I do care about prioritizing retail interest.
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区分公司经营与股价表现，强调关注个人持仓回报。
@blackwalletfr 公司 $IREN 经营良好与你持有的该公司股票升值之间是有区别的。我更关心我的股票表现如何，而不是公司本身。 https://t.co/X1YzRXWBNK
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@blackwalletfr There’s a difference between the company $IREN doing well and your shares in the company appreciating in value. I care about how my shares perform, not so much about the company itself. https://t.co/X1YzRXWBNK
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IREN因GPU采购及ATM增发稀释，轻资产优势丧失，散户价值或归零。
@Brian_S1_1991 第一次大规模买入 $IREN 是在 20 多美元高位至 30 美元低位区间。随后在上涨途中退出。去年它是一家很有前景的轻资产公司，但今年因购买 GPU 和极端的自动取款机(ATM)增发稀释而艰难转型，这可能会彻底抹去散户股东的价值。 https://t.co/ocQ6vcx1Qz
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@Brian_S1_1991 First major $IREN buys were in the high $20’s low 30’s. Then exited on the way up. It was very promising, asset light company last year but hard pivoted with GPU buys and extreme ATM dilution that might just wipe out retail share value. https://t.co/ocQ6vcx1Qz
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IREN投资逻辑已变，警惕巨额ATM融资风险。
我去年曾做多 $IREN，但投资逻辑已发生实质性变化。 再次强调，我现在对 $IREN 没有任何经济利益，但我确实关注散户的最佳利益。 鉴于涉及真金白银，有情绪波动是可以理解的，但如果想继续做多，重要的是要意识到来自 60 亿美元自动取款机(ATM)融资的明显危险信号(red flags)。 人们可以自由决定如何操作自己的投资组合。
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I was long $IREN last year, but the thesis has materially changed. Again I have zero economic interest in $IREN now but I do look out for retail’s best interest. It’s fine if there’s emotion involved given money is at stake, but it’s important to become aware of the glaring red flags from a $6B ATM if they want to continue going long. People are free to do whatever they want with their own portfolio.
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警惕与股票“结婚”，投资逻辑变化时应果断调整持仓。
大多数 X 用户都会犯与股票“结婚”的错误。 如果你的投资逻辑因 $HIMS 或 $IREN 发生实质性变化，你的持仓也应随之调整。 如果去年你对 $IREN 的看多逻辑是通过托管(Colo)业务变现 3GW 产能。 那么如果该公司： -> 在 122 亿市值下不可避免地向你稀释 60 亿美元 -> 在每次反弹中将这些股份抛向公开市场 -> 转向 GPU 业务 你的逻辑已经变了。 这很可能是一个退出以追求更具非对称性机会的时机。 如果你对 $HIMS 的逻辑是它是医疗界的亚马逊。 但如果他们被 $NVO 和美国政府起诉至绝境，退出是合理的。 但如果随着 $NVO 撤诉并达成合作，逻辑重新成立，那么再次做多也没有问题。 每个月都有许多因催化剂或基本面而改变的事情。 如果你仍在为必然发生的、针对你 $IREN 持仓的 60 亿美元新股抛售而欢呼。 而你唯一的理由就像 $AMC 投资者那样“信任管理层”。 也许现在是时候问问自己： 你是否因为与股票“结婚”而忽略了所有危险信号？
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Most people on X make the mistake of getting married to a stock. If your thesis materially changes with $HIMS or $IREN, so should your position. If the bull case with $IREN last year was monetizing 3GW capacity through colo. Then if the company: -> inevitably dilutes you $6B off a $12.2B MC -> sells those shares into the open market in every rally -> pivots to GPU offerings Your thesis has changed. And it’s likely a time to exit to pursue more asymmetric opportunities. If your thesis with $HIMS was that they’re the Amazon of healthcare. But they get sued to oblivion by $NVO and the US gov. It’s respectable to exit. But if the thesis is back online given $NVO dropping their lawsuit and partnering up, then there’s nothing wrong with going long again. A lot of things change every month with catalysts or fundamentals. If you’re still cheering on an inevitable $6B worth of new shares getting sold against your $IREN positions on every rally. And your only qualifier is “Trusting in Management” like $AMC investors. Maybe it’s a good time to ask yourself this: Are you ignoring every red flag because you’re married to the stock?
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IREN稀释源于对冲套利非做空，HIMS方向性做空易引发轧空。
@BlackPantherCap $IREN 的 60 亿美元稀释来自自动取款机(ATM)增发和可转换票据对冲套利，并非真正的做空。$HIMS 主要是方向性做空，而上述情况实际上会引发空头挤压(Short Squeeze)。
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@BlackPantherCap $IREN is $6B dilution from an ATM and convertible note arbitrage from hedging, not actual shorts. $HIMS was primarily directional shorts, and these scenarios actually lead a short squeeze
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IREN巨额ATM构成抛压，建议持有其他数据中心股。
@Agrippa_Inv 我们看看这对 $IREN 意味着什么。为持有者加油，但结构性上，60亿美元的定向增发(ATM)在任何反弹中都会对他们不利。这就是为什么持有其他没有如此巨大抛压和可能面临市值一半卖压的数据中心(DC)股票可能更好。
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@Agrippa_Inv We'll see how this bodes for $IREN. Cheering on the holders, but structurally the $6B ATM works against them in any rally. Which is why it's probably better to hold other DC stocks that don't have that large overhang and likely selling pressure of half the MC.
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博主引用推文，讽刺IREN融资申报为共产主义宣传。
@daniel_koss 我最喜欢这一条，它称 $IREN 的 60 亿美元 ATM（自动取款机融资）申报是共产主义宣传。https://t.co/tfVo9AWJZM
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@daniel_koss This one is my favorite for saying the $IREN $6B ATM filing is communist propaganda. https://t.co/tfVo9AWJZM
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批评某人在多只股票中稀释散户，认为其毫无信誉。
@Mr_Derivatives 鉴于他通过 $BKKT、$ASST 以及现在的 $IREN 将散户持仓稀释至零的过往记录，此人已毫无信誉可言。
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@Mr_Derivatives Given his track history of diluting retail to zero with $BKKT, $ASST, and now $IREN, the guy has zero credibility anymore.
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批评IREN社区无视融资风险，警告其陷入AMC式套牢困境。
@MikeFReichmann 如果 $IREN 社区的主要回应是说提及 $60 亿 ATM（自动取款机融资）是苏联资助的共产主义宣传。抱歉地说，你们已经进入了 $AMC 套牢盘（bagholder）的领地。 https://t.co/mK0TwgxArO
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@MikeFReichmann If the $IREN community’s main response is to say mentioning the $6B ATM is communist propaganda paid off by the Soviet Union. Sorry to say you’re in $AMC bagholderterritory. https://t.co/mK0TwgxArO
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警告IREN面临向散户抛售压力，建议寻找其他长期机会。
现实是，$IREN 将无法找到其他融资方式，因此必须向散户持有者抛售这些股份进入公开市场。如果你在他们特意提交60亿美元自动取款机(ATM)增发计划以向公开市场抛售之后，还到了“只是信任 $IREN 管理层不会抛售”的地步。那里有更好的长期机会。
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The reality is that $IREN will need to sell tjose shares into the open market against retail holders since they couldn’t find other financing methods. If you‘ve gotten to the point of “just trusting in $IREN management to not sell” after they went out of their way to file a $6 Billion ATM to sell into the open market. There’s better long opportunities out there.
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澄清未做空IREN，批评其回避ATM稀释问题
@Sandeman52 如果他们选择攻击个人品格，而不是谈论在公开市场上出售的60亿美元自动取款机(ATM)稀释这一残酷而诚实的现实，这将说明很多问题。 我实际上并没有做空 $IREN，我没有持仓或经济利益。 只是陈述显而易见的事实
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@Sandeman52 It will speak volumes if they go after character instead of talking about the brutally honest reality of the $6B ATM dilution that gets sold on the open market. I actually am not short $IREN, I have no positions or economic interest. Just stating the obvious
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因巨额稀释及风险收益失衡，作者看空 $IREN 并推荐 $CIFR 和 $NBIS。
我看不到任何持有 $IREN 的 compelling case（有力理由）。 尤其是考虑到在 $128亿市值下新增 $60亿的股票稀释。 人们可能会看到市值膨胀至 $200-$250亿。 但他们的股份价值会随时间递减。 风险收益比已经不再存在。 像 $CIFR 这样的公司，通过 Fluidstack 为 $AMZN 和 $GOOGL 提供 Colo（数据中心托管）模式，提供了更具非对称性的上行空间。 而像 $NBIS 这样的公司则提供更好的多元化（Robotaxis（自动驾驶出租车）、ClickHouse），执行风险更低，且资本支出得到良好支持。 对于 $IREN，无法合理化接近市值一半的稀释并为此欢呼。 即使有新的 Hyperscaler（超大规模云服务商）交易，风险收益比也不存在。 我去年对 $IREN 看多，但已卖出。持有者经历了从： -> 3GW 容量，轻资产，Colo 模式（我曾看好） -> 为 $MSFT 购买 GPU 并为其转型的执行风险欢呼（我不看好） 到 -> 为 $60亿新股稀释欢呼，并在公开市场上被反向抛售。（AMC 接盘者领地） 如果你努力证明新的 ~50% 稀释是好事，且在你持仓被抛售时信任管理层： 抱歉告诉你，你现在加入了数据中心领域的 $AMC 等价俱乐部。 市场上有更好的多头标的。
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I see zero compelling case to hold $IREN. Especially given the new $6B share dilution at a $12.8B marketcap. People will likely see that marketcap inflate to $20-$25B. But the value of their shares decrease over time. The risk reward is just not there anymore. Companies like $CIFR offer much more asymmetrical upside given their colo model for $AMZN and $GOOGL through Fluidstack. And companies like $NBIS offer much better diversification (robotaxis, clickhouse), derisked execution, and are well supported for capex. With $IREN, there’s no way to justify being diluted close to half the market cap and cheering that on. Even with a new hyperscaler deal there’s risk reward is just not there. I was bullish $IREN last year but sold it. As holders went from: -> 3GW capacity, asset lite, Colo model (was a fan of this) -> Buying GPUs for $MSFT and cheering on execution risks from the pivot (not a fan) Into -> Cheering on $6B of new share dilution + getting sold on the open market against their positions. (AMC bagholder territory) If you’re trying hard to justify why new ~50% dilution is a good thing sold against your positions and trusting in management: Sorry to tell you, that you’re now in the $AMC equivalent club for datacenters. There are much better longs out there.
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批评忽视基本面盲目使用技术分析的行为。
@17Reazy 是的，这才是正确使用技术分析(TA)的方式。我也这么用。我只是说，那些追随并绘制那些400%+随机突破形态的人，完全没考虑其他因素，比如$IREN 60亿美元的烧钱稀释，简直是一派胡言。
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@17Reazy Yep, this is how you should use TA. I use it too. Just saying the people following and drawing those 400%+ random breakout patterns without considering anything else like $IREN $6B ATM dilution are full of it.
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警告$IREN巨额稀释带来的长期卖压，质疑其涨至130美元的逻辑。
这60亿美元的稀释对$IREN来说，长期卖压绝对是巨大的。 很多人低估了这种ATM（自动取款机增发）对现有股东是多么恶劣。 如果你相信技术分析(TA)引用的观点，认为$IREN能无视图表，在接近一半流通盘被稀释并随后抛售的情况下，随机涨到130美元，那我就不懂了。
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The $6B dilution is absolutely immense long term selling pressure for $IREN. A lot of people understate how egregious that ATM actually is for existing shareholders. If you believe that TA quoted where $IREN randomly goes to $130 off the chart alone when close to half of their float is diluted and later sold, idk.
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澄清IREN未单日抛售60亿，强调纯技术分析。
@Agrippa_Inv 谁说 $IREN 在一天内卖了 60 亿美元？ 这篇帖子完全是关于技术分析(TA)图表作为独立分析，并未包含任何关于基本面、宏观或催化剂的想法。
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@Agrippa_Inv Nobody said $IREN was selling $6B in one day? This whole post was about TA drawers as a standalone without including any thoughts about fundamentals, macro, or catalysts.
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技术分析仅是辅助，股价由基本面、宏观和催化剂决定。
我在$CRCL上市前禁售期股价$200时就说过这话。 现在面对$IREN在$60亿稀释后，我要再次重申以证明一个观点： 单纯的技术分析(TA)和图表分析，纯粹是占星术和骗人的鬼话。 价格极其多维，主要遵循三个因素： - 基本面（营收、增长、板块、利润率、利润） - 催化剂（财报、导致基本面重大变化的事件） - 宏观（战争、降息、流动性事件） 如果你读过我的任何帖子，我会尝试将这三者结合起来解释。 然而，我在X上到处看到那些付费墙后的技术分析(TA)绘图者，只发图表，对股票毫无基本面理解。 如果一家市值$130亿的公司发行$60亿新股并在公开市场全部抛售。 或者像(Webull)这样SPAC上市后市值$500亿的公司，原本只有1%的流通股交易，现在全部释放。 基本面的转变和公司行动绝对会摧毁任何图表形态。 股票遵循基本面、宏观和催化剂。 技术分析(TA)在极其多维的环境中只是一个有用的指标。 单靠它，那些向你兜售XYZ支撑位->ABC突破的人完全不知道自己在说什么。
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I’ve said this before with $CRCL pre-IPO lockup at $200. And I’ll say it again with $IREN post-$6B dilution to prove a point: TA and Charting alone, is pure astrology and snake oil. Prices are extremely multifaceted, they primarily follow 3 things: - Fundamentals (revenue, growth, sector, margins, profit) - Catalysts (earnings, events that lead to material fundamental changes) - Macro (War, Rate cuts, Liquidity events) If you ever read any of my posts I try to explain these three together. However, I keep seeing paywall TA drawers on X everywhere that post charts alone, showing zero fundamental understanding on stocks. If a company is valued at $13B issues $6B new shares then sells all of that on the open market. Or if a company like (Webull) valued at $50B post SPAC IPO only trades off 1% of their float then releases it all. Fundamental shifts and corporate actions will absolutely obliterate any pattern. Stocks follow fundamentals, macro, and catalysts. TA’s are only a helpful indicator, in an extremely multifaceted environment. By itself, people selling you XYZ support -> ABC breakouts have 0 clue what they’re talking about.
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批评 IREN 和 NBIS 巨额增发稀释股权，认为投资者应回避。
@Agrippa_Inv 这一举措客观上很糟糕……我不明白 $IREN 的投资者怎么会支持 60 亿美元的 ATM（自动取款机式增发）。如果 $NBIS 进行 110 亿美元的 ATM 增发，我也会毫不犹豫地逃之夭夭。
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@Agrippa_Inv This one is objectively bad… I don’t see how $IREN investors could support a $6B ATM. If $NBIS ran an $11B ATM, I wouldn’t hesitate to fun for the hills either.
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质疑BKKT和IREN借名人效应吸引散户后恶意稀释股权。
@wilson_eth 感觉像 $BKKT 或 $IREN 这样的公司聘请那位人士，只是为了吸引新的散户买家，然后将其无限稀释。
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@wilson_eth Feels like companies like $BKKT or $IREN only bring the guy on so they can get new retail buyers then dilute them to oblivion
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IREN巨额增发稀释远超NBIS，非市场恐慌而是既定事实。
@Gyujin_9701 当 $IREN 实际执行增发以稀释股权并不可避免地向市场抛售价值60亿美元的股份时，这并非恐慌、不确定性和怀疑(FUD)。我原本强烈反对 $NBIS 进行25亿美元的此类操作，但这次规模完全不在一个量级上。
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@Gyujin_9701 It’s not FUD when $IREN actually went out and filled to dilute and inevitably sell $6B worth of shares into the market. I was really against $NBIS doing it with $2.5B but this is on another scale.
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IREN因重资本支出导致利润率受损
@Yeah_Dave 是的，与其他设计自定义服务器机架(custom server racks)以绕过原始设备制造商(OEM)成本的公司不同，$IREN 在此方面确实投入了大量资本支出(capex)，这在一定程度上损害了利润率。
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@Yeah_Dave Yeah, unlike others that design their own things like custom server racks to bypass oem costs, $IREN does spend a lot of capex on it, which does hurt margins a bit
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批评IREN和AMC投资者将股权稀释粉饰为利好。
@darth_kirk 只有在看 $IREN 和 $AMC 时，我才见过投资者试图将股份被稀释到虚无解释为利好。
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@darth_kirk Only with $IREN and $AMC have I seen investors try to spin their shares getting diluted to oblivion as a positive thing.
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IREN 巨额增发致稀释，商业模式不及 NBIS，看多逻辑失效。
三天后，$IREN 再次进行 60 亿美元的自动取款机 (ATM) 增发，在公开市场上出售了几乎一半的市值。变现 3-4GW 产能听起来不错，但如果你是现有股东，情况就不妙了。看起来他们的经济模型不像 $NBIS 那样能覆盖足够多的资本支出 (Capex)。我和去年其他人的看多逻辑是：$IREN 通过托管 (Colo) 业务产生自由现金流 (FCF) 来资助 GPU 相关扩张。但这发生了实质性变化，增加了执行不确定性，并在此基础上带来了无尽的稀释。
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3 days later $IREN is having another $6B ATM, selling almost half their marketcap on the open market. Monetizing 3-4GW capacity sounds good, but not if you’re an existing shareholder. Doesn’t look like their economics cover enough of their capex in the way $NBIS does. My bull case, alongside everyone else’s last year: was for $IREN to do colo and fund GPU related expansion with FCF. This materially changed and added execution uncertainty + endless dilution on top.
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对比 IREN 高稀释融资与 AAOI 高效产能扩张。
@pappu_yar11820 X 上的散户似乎都在买入 $IREN，其以 34 亿美元云 ARR 换取 60 亿美元的稀释性融资。反观 $AAOI，仅凭 2.5 亿美元 ATM 额度即可将德州激光产能翻三倍，并实现超大规模云厂商积压订单的 3.78 亿美元/月爬坡。
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@pappu_yar11820 Every retail on X seems to be buying $IREN that is diluting $6B for $3.4B cloud ARR. Then you have $AAOI with a tiny $250M ATM to triple laser capacity in Texas and hit the $378/M ramp that is backlogged by hyperscalers.
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不看好IREN因稀释风险，更信任NBIS管理层，静待时间验证。
我不看好做多 $IREN，除非他们停止 GPU 业务并转向纯数据中心托管(Colo)业务。现在的投资者将面临为了变现其 3GW 产能而进行的无休止稀释。话虽如此，它确实具有更高的潜在回报，但我个人更信任 $NBIS 的管理层。过去我在 $NBIS 与 $IREN 之间有过很多辩论，时间会证明谁是对的。
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Not a fan of $IREN as a long unless they stop doing GPU offerings and pivot to do pure colo. investors now will be met with endless dilution to monetize their 3GW capacity. That being said it does carry higher potential returns but I personally trust in $NBIS management more. I’ve had a lot of debates in the past between $NBIS vs $IREN but time will tell whose right
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深度解析$IQE：通过出售台湾业务去债，转型InP光子学产能，类比矿企转AI。
深入解析 $IQE（市值1.79亿美元）： IQE隐藏的磷化铟(InP)期权价值 vs LandMark 35亿美元的估值。以及 $IREN / $CRWV 等“矿企”向光子学(Potonics)转型的逻辑： 此前我做过一个高层级的“淋浴思考”概览，例如 $AXTI -> $IQE -> $LITE -> $GOOGL TPUs，但这次是更深入的尽职调查(DD)。 基本上：IQE是全球最大的独立商用化合物半导体外延晶圆代工厂，按反应炉数量和物理产能计算。 然而，由于受困于低毛利的传统无线业务和短期流动性约束，其估值处于困境状态。 LandMark Optoelectronics (TPEX: 3081) 是最接近的对比标的。作为800G和1.6T光互连市场中AI InP需求的纯代理标的，LandMark市值约38亿美元，相比市值1.75亿美元的 $IQE 享有巨大溢价。 但如果深入看底层硬件，这种脱节非常有趣： LandMark的运营规模在物理上受限。据估计，他们在台湾单一校区仅运营约27-30台金属有机化学气相沉积(MOCVD)反应炉。 相比之下，IQE在全球拥有超过100台MOCVD和分子束外延(MBE)系统。 IQE光子学资产基础的潜在重置价值和结构性产能似乎远超其当前公开市场估值。 这有点像比特币矿企拥有3GW产能 vs 750MW产能，如果进行转换，前者有巨大的变现期权价值。 我们也看到了光模块瓶颈： -> 下游对光收发器(Optical Transceivers)的需求正在以前所未有的速度加速。 -> 来自 $GOOGL、$MSFT、$AMZN 等的极端需求直接向上游硬件供应链传导。 这给Innolight等光模块集成商、$COHR、$LITE 和 $AVGO 等光组件制造商，以及最终为 foundational 激光芯片生长原始外延晶圆的商用外延代工厂带来了巨大压力。 由于其他玩家触及物理产能天花板，像 $COHR 这样的垂直整合玩家已满载，超大规模云厂商和模块制造商迫切需要在 $IQE 这样的玩家中寻找替代产能。 而且... 隐藏在IQE合并报表之下的是大量的 Aixtron AIX 2800G4-TM 反应炉。 这些反应炉原生具备双能力(GaAs/InP)，可以以相对较低的成本（每台50万-150万美元）重新用于InP生产，但需要数月或一年时间来重构。当然，执行层面增加了资格认证和良率风险（类似于比特币矿企对GPU进行软件编排，如 $CRWV）。 但无论如何，IQE拥有类似 $IREN 或转型HPC的比特币矿企那样的产能。而LandMark证明了纯代理标的带来的估值溢价。 核心问题.. 释放被困价值： 虽然IQE的营收远高于LandMark，但由于4500万英镑的总债务，其股价（1.75亿美元市值）被定价为破产边缘。 但对超大规模云厂商来说，这笔债务微不足道： 其正在进行的由Lazard指导的战略审查的明确目标是：最终完成IQE台湾（传统GaAs无线业务）的出售，并利用所得资金彻底且永久地消除母公司的限制性债务结构。 再次强调，其可转换贷款票据面值2120万英镑，公司实收1800万英镑。净债务为2350万英镑。 -> 需要立即清除的债务负担：2350万英镑汇丰设施 + 2120万英镑CLN = 约4500万英镑。 假设IQE台湾单元以1亿至1.5亿英镑的高价出售（不保证），IQE在完全无债后将获得5000万至1亿英镑的盈余现金。 然而，射频GaAs目前并不“热门”，因此在困境资产出售中可能仅值5000万至6000万英镑，这足以清偿债务，但缓冲空间很小。 地缘政治转向： 一旦无债，IQE可以将其在北卡罗来纳州和威尔士等地大量闲置的制造产能转向数据中心InP外延晶圆市场。 这为光子学中最关键的瓶颈创造了一条完全资本化、纯西方的供应链，在美国和英国高度重视国内半导体基础设施之际，减少了对亚洲的依赖。 基本上，鉴于 $IQE 拥有的原始资产数量： -> 成功出售台湾业务将消除持续经营风险，清除所有债务，并让他们直接向Tier 1光模块玩家变现其6英寸InP外延晶圆技术。 这是一笔基于成功重组以释放被困价值的深度资产价值交易。且它已是超大规模云厂商光网络的知名供应商（并非科学实验项目）。 下行风险是过度稀释和重组失败。但鉴于其对西方供应链和超大规模云厂商供应链的地缘政治重要性，似乎有更多缓冲。 我个人决定将其作为巨大的潜在反转机会做多。但再次强调，这不适合所有人，风险极高。 TLDR： -> IQE被定价为困境中的射频供应商。 -> 它拥有真正具备光子学能力的硬件基础设施。 -> 如果4100万英镑总债务被移除，且管理层将资本支出重新分配给InP，股权可能大幅重估。 -> 重组+产能期权交易，风险极高但上行空间也极大。 最接近的类比是 $IREN 或 $CIFR 等将GW产能转向AI HPC的比特币矿企。他们拥有大量物理硬件（GW产能），需要资金进行转型（通过出售台湾业务或稀释）。 我乐观地认为他们能做到（像 $INTC 那样，鉴于其对西方的地缘政治重要性，有回旋余地）。 下行风险是极端稀释，这始终是一种可能性（意味着你的股权可能被清零以清偿债务或帮助重构）。 我只是发现4500万英镑总债务（占流通股本+债务的14.4%）并非不可承受，且管理层正试图通过资产出售而非股东稀释来清除债务。 只想发布更深入的拆解和这个非常二元化的**高风险**但潜在高回报交易更多风险。
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Here's a deeper look into $IQE ($179M): IQE's hidden InP optionality versus LandMark's $3.5B valuation. And the $IREN / $CRWV "miner" pivot to photonics: Before I did a high-level shower thought overview eg. $AXTI -> $IQE -> $LITE -> $GOOGL TPUs, but this is slightly more DD. Basically: IQE is the largest independent merchant compound semi epitaxial foundry in the world by reactor count and physical capacity. However, it's trading at distressed valuations because it's burdened by a low-margin legacy wireless business, and near-term liquidity constraints. LandMark Optoelectronics (TPEX: 3081) is the closest comparison. As a pure-play proxy for AI InP demand in the 800G and 1.6T optical interconnect market, LandMark commands a ~$3.8B billion market cap with large premiums in comparison to $IQE which is trading at a $175M MC. But if you look deeper at the physical hardware, the disconnect is pretty fascinating: LandMark's operational scale is physically limited. They only operate around 27 to 30 Metal-Organic Chemical Vapor Deposition (MOCVD) reactors out of a single campus in Taiwan per some estimates. IQE, by stark contrast, possesses well over 100+ MOCVD and MBE systems globally. The underlying replacement value and structural capacity of IQE’s photonics asset base looks to vastly exceeds its current public market valuation. Kind of like if a Bitcoin miner has 3GW capacity, vs 750 MW, there's large optionality to monetize it if they convert it. And we're seeing an transceiver bottleneck too: -> The downstream demand for optical transceivers is experiencing unprecedented acceleration. -> Extreme demand, from $GOOGL, $MSFT, $AMZN and others flow directly up the hardware supply chain. This puts immense pressure on transceiver integrators like Innolight, optical component manufacturers like $COHR, $LITE, and $AVGO, and ultimately, the merchant epitaxial foundries that grow the raw epiwafers required for the foundational laser chips. And since other players are hitting a physical capacity ceiling, vertically integrated players like $COHR are capped out, hyperscalers and module makers are desperate for alternative capacity in players like $IQE And.. Hidden entirely beneath IQE's consolidated corporate lines is a massive fleet of Aixtron AIX 2800G4-TM reactors. These are natively dual-capable (GaAs/InP) and can be repurposed for InP production at a relatively modest cost ($500K-$1.5M per reactor) but take few months or year to refactor. And obviously qualification and yield risk added to execution (similar to Bitcoin miners doing software orchestration to GPUs like $CRWV). But still, IQE has the capacity kinda like $IREN or Bitcoin miners that pivoted to HPC. And LandMark is proof of the valuation pure play exposure brings. The Major Question.. Unlocking Trapped Value: While IQE generates significantly higher top-line revenue than LandMark, it's priced ($175M MC) for bankruptcy because of its gross debt of 45M. But the debt looks like pennies to hyperscalers: The explicit, stated goal of their ongoing Lazard-advised strategic review is to definitively conclude the sale of IQE Taiwan (their legacy GaAs wireless business) and utilize the proceeds to completely and permanently extinguish the parent company's restrictive debt profile. Once again their convertible loan notes is a norminal face value of £21.2 million, for proceeds of £18 million for the company. Then they're net debt, £23.5 million. -> The immediate debt burden requiring clearance: £23.5M HSBC facility + £21.2M CLN = ~£45M. Assuming a highly sale price for the IQE Taiwan unit of between £100 million and £150 millio (not guaranteed), IQE would net £50 million to £100 million in surplus cash after becoming completely debt-free. However, RF GaAs is not currently "hot", so in a distressed asset sale it might only be £50M to £60M, which gives it enough room to clear debt alone and little cushion room. The Geopolitical Pivot: Once debt-free, IQE can shift its massive, currently underutilized manufacturing capacity in places like North Carolina and Wales toward the InP epiwafer market for datacenters. It creates a fully capitalized, purely Western-based supply chain for the most critical bottleneck in photonics, eliminating more dependency on Asia at a time when the US and UK are heavily prioritizing domestic semiconductor infrastructure. Basically, just given the amount of raw assets $IQE has: -> Successfully selling off their Taiwan business wipes out the going-concern risks, clears all debt, and leaves them to monetize their 6-inch inp epiwafer tech directly for the Tier 1 optical transceiver players. It's a deep asset value trade on a successful restructuring to unlock trapped value. And a currently well-known supplier for optical networking for hyperscalers (so not a science project). Downside risks are excessive dilution and failure to restructure. But given it's geopolitical importance to Western supply chains and hyperscaler supply chains, it seems to have more cushion. I personally decided to enter this long as a massive potential turnaround. But again, it's not for everyone and it's extremely high risk. TLDR: -> IQE is priced like a distressed RF supplier. -> It owns real photonics-capable infrastructure. -> If gross 41M debt is removed and management reallocates capex toward InP, the equity could rerate materially. -> Restructuring + capacity optionality trade with extreme risk but extreme upside. Closest comparison is Bitcoin miners like $IREN or $CIFR that pivot their GW capacity to AI HPC. They have a ton of physical hardware (GW capacity), and need funds to pivot (either through sale of Taiwan business or dilution). It's an optimistic trade I took they can do it (with wiggle room like $INTC given their geopolitical importance to the West). The downside is extreme dilution, which is always a possibility (meaning your equity gets wiped out to 0 to clear their debts or to help them refactor). I just found that 45M gross debt (14.4% of float + debt) wasn't the most and management was looking to clear that through asset sales rather than dilution to shareholders. Just wanted to publish deeper breakdown and more risks of this very binary **high risk**, but potentially high upside trade.
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博主复盘YTD 316%收益，分享交易策略、核心持仓优势及免费分享初衷。
年初至今：316.4% 从2026年1月到2026年2月。 对我短期交易和多头持仓的回顾： > 年初对像 $GLXY、$SMCI 和 $IREN 这样进行税务收割(tax harvested)的股票进行波段交易(swing traded) > 搭乘委内瑞拉股票从 Gold Reserve、$AVAV 到 $CVX（看涨期权）上涨的顺风车 > 在战争入侵后买入像 $LPTH、$OSS、$AIRO 这样的国防股，以及受“跟随领导者”催化剂驱动的 $ONDS > 对 $INTC 进行催化剂交易，并正确把握了财报时机。 > 因对线色变化(wire color change)的担忧而对 $CRDO 进行波段交易 > 在超大规模客户损失(hyperscaler client losses)被错误报道后对 $MRVL 进行波段交易 > 像 $META 一样正确预判了财报 > 在 $NBIS 和 $CIFR 大幅抛售至 $70 和 $11 时，通过保证金(margin)加仓 > 从 $HOOD 下跌到 $CRDO 下跌再到复苏的过程中进行波段交易。 > 在比特币跌至 $73k 时买入，并在 $62k 时大量使用保证金博取复苏 > 像 $ETOR 这样的复苏股在抛售和财报后表现良好。 > 正确把握了像 $RPI 这样的公司的催化剂 > 利用亚洲股票与欧洲/美国时区之间的时间滞后套利(time lag arbitrages) > 利用 $EWY 和其他指数的隐含波动率扩张(IV expansion) > 把握轮动进入电力/电网股如 $XLU 的时机，目前正对像 $RDDT 这样的股票进行波段交易， 我肯定漏掉了一些，但这些是我主要发布的内容！ 此外，我会进行日内交易(day trade)： 例如 $ORCL 因发行导致8%抛售后的复苏，或 $SOFI 因无关紧要的卖方降级导致随机10%抛售。 我不在主时间线发布这些内容，因为我不想影响人们的买卖决策。 只想提供方向性思路，让人们得出自己的结论。 除此之外，我很高兴今天一切都上涨了，包括我的对冲(hedges)头寸。 与此同时，我的核心多头组合来自： - 从 SK Hynix 到 $AXTI 的光子学(Photonics)和存储，以及像 $AEHR 和 $FORM 这样的供应链瓶颈，其表现远超 Burry 的 $PLTR 每年 $415 的回报。 - 来自韩国/日本股票如 Nittobo、Kioxia 和 Unimicron 的多头持仓，有力支撑了美股回撤。 并非我组合中的所有股票都是绿色的，如 $CRCL、$CPSH、$VLN、$NBIS 或最近的 $INFQ。 但重要的是绿色持仓的集中度高于红色。与此同时，SPY 年初至今仅为 .55%，大多数高贝塔(high beta)股票年初至今大幅下跌。 我也不希望大家跟随我所有的操作，因为板块轮动、期权套利和基板瓶颈(substrate bottlenecks)很难消化。由于我也根据宏观/财报催化剂在约30只股票之间轮动，而大多数人只关注几只并持有数年。 但是，当2025年第四季度的短期回撤（如果人们买了短期期权）出错时，确实让人难受，直到现在才恢复超过平均成本。 然而，我对核心多头如 $NBIS 最终将大幅跑赢市场非常有信心。 希望大家能从中获得一两个有趣的交易思路或学到一些东西！ —— 只是有些反思，我认为我最近受欢迎的一个原因是我没有试图推销任何东西。这也不是我的全职工作（我经营一家科技公司），我只是出于乐趣做这件事，所以对最近的受欢迎程度感到非常惊讶。 我认为我的优势可能是信息综合与映射 -> 发现市场遗漏的阿尔法(alpha) -> 转化为金融科技和半导体领域的可执行多头思路。 与发布突发新闻或擅长拆解一两只特定股票的账户相比。 无论如何，我免费发布所有想法只是为了在能帮助他人时获得满足感。 所以，人们觉得我的想法有趣或信号足够强而愿意倾听，这让我心存感激。
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Year to Date: 316.4% From January 2026 into February 2026. Reflection of my short term trades and longs: > Swing traded tax harvested stocks like $GLXY, $SMCI, and $IREN start of the year > Rode Venezuela stocks from Gold Reserve, $AVAV, to $CVX (calls) up > Bought into defense like $LPTH, $OSS, $AIRO after invasion from war + $ONDS “follow the leader” catalyst > Catalyst traded $INTC and timed earnings correctly. > Swing traded $CRDO off wire color change fears > Swing traded $MRVL after erroneous reporting on hyperscaler client losses > Got earnings right like $META > Portfolio margined into $NBIS and $CIFR on the major selloff to $70 and $11. > Swing trades things from $HOOD drop to $CRDO drop into recovery. > Bought Bitcoin dip to $73k and heavy margin on $62k into recovery > Recovery plays like $ETOR after selloff and ER helped. > Getting catalysts on companies like $RPI correct > Time lag arbitrages between Asian equities and European/US time zones. > IV expansion off $EWY and other indexes. > Timing rotation into power/grids like $XLU and currently swing trading stuff like $RDDT, I’m sure I missed a bunch but these were the main ones I posted about! On the side I would day trade: Eg. $ORCL 8% selloff from offering into recovery or random 10% selloffs on immaterial $SOFI sellside downgrades. I don’t post stuff like these on my main timeline since I don’t want to influence when people buy/sell. Just want to give directional ideas and let people come to their own conclusions. Aside from that I’m happy everything went up today, including my hedges. This is all while my core long portfolio from: - Photonics and memory from SK Hynix to $AXTI to supply chain bottlenecks like $AEHR and $FORM have been mogging Burry’s $PLTR $415/year returns. - Longs from Korean/Japanese equities like Nittobo, Kioxia, and Unimicron have hard carried US equity drawdowns. Not everything in my portfolio is green like $CRCL, $CPSH, $VLN, $NBIS or recently $INFQ. But what matters is you have more concentration in green than red. This is all while SPY is YTD: .55% and most high beta stocks are heavily red YTD. I also don’t want people to follow along everything since sector rotation, option arbitrage, and substrate bottlenecks are hard to digest. Since I also rotate around like 30 different stocks based on macro/earning catalysts, whereas most people focus on a few and hold on for years. But it does hurt when more if get something wrong with short term drawdowns from Q4 2025 (if people bought short term options) and it’s only now recovered past cost average. However, I’m extremely confident in core longs like $NBIS to strongly outperform in due time. Hopefully people can take away one or two trade ideas that they find interesting or learn something! —— Just some reflection, i think a reason for my recent popularity is I’m not trying to sell anything. This is also not my full time job (I run a tech company) and I was just doing this for enjoyment, so very surprised by the recent popularity. I do think my edge is probably information synthesis and mapping -> discovering alpha markets missed -> into actionable long ideas across fintech and semis. Compared to accounts that publish breaking news or excel in breakdowns of one or two specific stocks. Regardless, I publish all my ideas for free just to get fulfillment if I can help others. So it does bring me gratitude that people find my ideas interesting or high-signal enough to listen.
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OpenAI警告电力是AI竞争核心瓶颈，看好美国能源基建股。
@toptickcrypto 存在多个瓶颈。电力/电网是其中最大的瓶颈之一。 OpenAI 就 Deepseek 蒸馏问题向国会发送了一份备忘录： “维持美国在 AI 领域的优势，取决于我们能否可靠地大规模生成和输送电力。” 电力输送 - $VRT, $ETN, $PWR, $WMB, $KMI 一级能源供应商：$CEG, $VST, $TLN, $GEV, $NEE, $BEPC, $D 电网-能源/存储 - $TSLA, $FLNC, $NRGV, $BE 能源：$TE, $FSLR, $NRG 这对这些公司来说是一个被重申的顺风因素。 而对于那些已经锁定吉瓦(GW)级容量的公司，如 $IREN, $NBIS, $WULF 和 $CIFR，则存在二级顺风因素。 备忘录的核心问题围绕知识产权盗窃和国家安全问题。但关于维持优势的最大警告是能源。 OpenAI 警告国会，2024年中国新增了429吉瓦(GW)的电力容量，这超过了美国整个电网的三分之一，也超过了全球电力增长的一半。他们认为，如果没有对美国电网进行激进扩张，中国“蛮力”式的能源建设最终将使其超越西方的 AI 能力。 光子学(Photonics)、先进封装(Advanced Packaging)和存储(Memory)是目前增长最快的三个瓶颈。然而，OpenAI 明确警告美国政府，谁能产生最多的电力，谁就能赢得 AI 竞赛。 他们的信息是：投资美国能源。
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@toptickcrypto There's multiple bottlenecks. Power/grid is one of the largest ones. https://t.co/rIKoKRyQOu
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因比特币相关性担忧看空CIFR/IREN，看好NBIS。
鉴于比特币近期价格下跌，在它们与比特币的相关性降低之前，我持负面看法。像 $NBIS 这样的新云公司是该板块更纯粹的标的。据我回忆，$CIFR 的资产负债表中有大量比特币敞口，且 $IREN 的很大一部分利润来自比特币挖矿。营收数据噪音很大，因为比特币挖矿收入与高性能计算(HPC)收入对资产负债表的影响截然不同。但随着规模扩大，这种影响应该会减弱。
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Negative until they have less correlation with Bitcoin given Bitcoin's recent price drop. Neoclouds like $NBIS are a bit more pure play to the sector. Last I recall, $CIFR balance sheet had a lot of Bitcoin exposure and a lot of $IREN's profit comes from Bitcoin mining. Revenue numbers are a lot of noise since revenue from Bitcoin mining vs HPC hits the balance sheet a lot different. But as they scale up, it should be less materially impacted.
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OpenAI警告国会：电力供应是AI竞争核心瓶颈，需投资美国能源。
OpenAI 就 Deepseek 蒸馏问题向国会发送了一份备忘录： “维持美国在人工智能领域的优势，取决于我们能否可靠地大规模生成和输送电力。” 电力输送 - $VRT, $ETN, $PWR, $WMB, $KMI 一级能源供应商：$CEG, $VST, $TLN, $GEV, $NEE, $BEPC, $D 电网能源/储能 - $TSLA, $FLNC, $NRGV, $BE 能源：$TE, $FSLR, $NRG 这对这些公司来说是一个被重申的顺风因素。 而对于那些已经锁定吉瓦(GW)级容量的公司，如 $IREN, $NBIS, $WULF 和 $CIFR，则存在二级顺风效应。 备忘录的核心议题围绕知识产权盗窃和国家安全问题。但关于维持优势的最大警告在于能源。 OpenAI 警告国会，2024年中国新增了429吉瓦(GW)的电力容量，这超过了美国整个电网的三分之一，也超过了全球电力增长的一半。他们认为，如果没有对美国电网进行激进扩张，中国“蛮力”式的能源建设最终将使其超越西方的AI能力。 光子学(Photonics)、先进封装(Advanced Packaging)和存储(Memory)是目前增长最快的三个瓶颈。然而，OpenAI 明确警告美国政府，谁能产生最多的电力，谁就能赢得AI竞赛。 他们的信息是：投资美国能源。
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OpenAI sent a memo to congress regarding Deepseek distillation: "Sustaining the American advantage on AI depends on depends on whether we can reliably generate and deliver power at scale." Power Delivery - $VRT, $ETN, $PWR, $WMB, $KMI Tier-1 Energy Providers: $CEG, $VST, $TLN, $GEV, $NEE, $BEPC, $D Grid-Energy / Storage - $TSLA, $FLNC, $NRGV, $BE Energy: $TE, $FSLR, $NRG This is a tailwind reiterated for these companies. And there's a second-order tailwind for companies that already secured GW capacity like $IREN, $NBIS, $WULF, and $CIFR. The core issue of the memo was around IP theft and national security issues. But the largest warning about sustaining an advantage was Energy. OpenAI warning Congress that in 2024, China added 429 Gigawatts (GW) of new power capacity, which was more than a third of the entire US grid and more than half of global electricity growth. Without a radical expansion of the American power grid, they believe China’s "brute force" energy buildout will eventually allow them to surpass Western AI capabilities. Photonics, Advanced Packaging, and Memory are three fastest growing bottlenecks right now. However, OpenAI explicitly warned the U.S. government that whoever generates the most power wins the AI race. Their message: Invest in American Energy.
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Neocloud板块卖空多为对冲，基本面强劲时无需过度关注。
从 $IREN 到 $WULF 的 Neocloud 板块的卖空兴趣(SI) 主要是可转换票据对冲，而非真正的做空。当然，像 Hedgeye 这样的机构也在增加 $NBIS 的 SI 数据，因此很难得知实际数字。话虽如此，如果基本面强劲，我其实不太在意 SI。
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Short interest from Neocloud sector from $IREN to $WULF are mostly convertible note hedging, not actual shorts. Of course there’s firms like Hedgeye adding to that number for $NBIS SI so it’s hard to know the actual figure. That being said don’t really care too much about SI if fundamentals are strong.
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基于排除法看好$NBIS财报，预计其多业务线高增长，建议财报期间持有。
在看到 $IREN 财报未披露新的超大规模客户(hyperscaler)交易后， 又看到超大规模客户的资本支出(capex)呈指数级增长： -> 通过排除法，$NBIS 在财报中“有所准备”的可能性越来越大。 过去几周的几个简版(TLDR)利好因素： - 旧款GPU价格大幅上涨（见前文）。有利于资产负债表 - GPU供应断崖式下跌（需求激增） - 超大规模客户资本支出激增（很大一部分被归因于数据中心DCs） - $NBIS 本季度可能已通过2500万股的按需发行(ATM)计划，希望稀释的尽头已现。 - Clickhouse以150亿美元估值融资（接近母公司估值） - “Uber不再自主研发Robotaxi”，转而依赖Avride（Nebius子公司）等合作伙伴 前景看好。 随着股价重置至92美元，如果Nebius仍有望在年底实现70-90亿美元ARR（同比增长700%+），财报期间应持有多头仓位。 当然，我预计大部分增长将在2026年下半年至明年一季度发生，届时50亿美元的建设资本支出将转化为80亿美元的中位营收+自由现金流(FCF)。 持有 $NBIS 基本上等于持有5家公司，每家都保持三位数同比增长，等待估值反映分部加总(Sum of Parts)+增长。
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After seeing $IREN report earnings with no new hyperscaler deals. And seeing hyperscaler capex exponentially increasing: -> It looks more and more likely $NBIS has something cooking for earnings through process of elimination. Few other TLDR tailwinds past few weeks: - Older GPUs have massively increased in price (see previous). Better for balance sheet - GPU availability dropped off the roof (increased demand) - Hyperscaler capex spend blowout (a large portion was cited for DCs) - $NBIS likely went through the 25M share ATM this quarter so hopefully the end of dilution is in sight. - Clickhouse raising at $15B valuation (getting close to main company valuation) - “Uber is not returning to developing its own robotaxis” and relying on partners like Avride (Nebius subsidiary) Things are looking good. With the price reset to $92, if Nebius is still on track for $7-9B ARR EOY (700%+ y/y), should be a positive hold through earnings. Of course I expect most of the ramp to happen H2 2026 to Q1 next year as the $5B in buildout capex spend converts to recognized $8B midpoint revenue + FCF. With $NBIS, you’re basically holding 5 companies, each growing triple digits Y/Y and waiting for valuation to reflect Sum of Parts + growth.
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NBIS等公司持有的GPU资产升值，构成重大投资利好。
@jng500 有趣的是，现在连关于GPU折旧的争论都不存在了。 $NBIS、$CRWV 和 $IREN 持有的GPU实际上像投资品一样升值了…… 上个月H100价格上涨29%以上，A100价格上涨23%以上。 这是一个极其巨大的顺风利好。 https://t.co/2udzG1dYVW
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@jng500 It's funny how it wasn't even GPU depreciation arguments anymore. The GPUs $NBIS, $CRWV, and $IREN are sitting on have actually gone up in price like an investment... H100s went up 29%+ and A100% went up 23%+ last month. This is an incredible, incredible tailwind. https://t.co/2udzG1dYVW
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超大规模云厂商资本支出激增导致GPU供应紧张，利好新云服务商。
黄仁勋在CNBC表示：“六年前销售的GPU价格正在上涨。” GPU折旧曾是$NBIS、$IREN和$CRWV最大的担忧。 但现在，它们拥有： - 超大规模云厂商资本支出增加带来的顺风 - 全面的需求增长 - GPU折旧担忧缓解。 所有顺风同时利好新云服务商(Neoclouds)。 （引用内容：根据3Fourteen Research：2月份主要云服务的GPU可用性大幅下降。随着$META、$AMZN、$GOOGL大幅增加基础设施资本支出，主要赢家是新云服务商：$IREN、$NBIS和$CRWV是三家提供AI云服务的企业。随着Opus 4.6等新AI模型的推出，可能出现新一轮需求冲击。从B200等新一代到旧型号，需求全面增长。这是产能限制累积效应的可视化体现。）
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Jensen Huang on CNBC: "GPUs sold six years ago are increasing in price." GPU depreciation was the largest concern for $NBIS, $IREN, and $CRWV. But now, they have: - Tailwinds from increased capex spend across hyperscalers - Increased demand across the board - GPU depreciation fears eased. Every tailwind just hit at once for Neoclouds.
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云厂商GPU供应紧缺，Neoclouds因需求冲击受益。
根据3Fourteen Research的数据：2月份主要云服务提供商的GPU可用性大幅下降。 与此同时，$META、$AMZN和$GOOGL大幅增加了基础设施资本支出。 主要的受益者是Neoclouds（新型云服务商）： $IREN、$NBIS和$CRWV是拥有AI云服务业务的三家。 随着Opus 4.6等新AI模型的发布，很可能出现了一波新的需求冲击。 这种需求增长是全方位的，涵盖了B200等新一代芯片以及旧型号。 这是产能限制累积效应的直观体现。
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According to 3Fourteen Research: GPU availability across major cloud services have dropped immensely in Feb. This comes as $META, $AMZN, $GOOGL have increased infrastructure capex spend immensely. The major victors, Neoclouds: $IREN, $NBIS, and $CRWV are the three with AI cloud offerings. There's likely been a new wave of demand shock with new AI models coming out from Opus 4.6 and others. And the demand increase is across the board with newer gens like B200, and older models. This is the cumulative effect of capacity constraints, now visualized.
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高贝塔股今日大跌，预计中期选举前市场将广泛复苏。
@soulbiri1 是的，今天高贝塔(高Beta)股票的表现极其糟糕。$CRDO、$IREN、$CIFR 等个股遭到重创。 $AMD 下跌 -17%，甚至 $MSFT 在过去两个月也下跌超过 -22%。 我预计随着今年晚些时候中期选举的临近，我们将看到更广泛的复苏。
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@soulbiri1 Yeah today was extremely rough for high-beta. $CRDO, $IREN, $CIFR, and others just got nuked. $AMD down -17%, even $MSFT down -22%+ past two months. I'd expect when Midterms come around later in the year, we'll see a broader recovery.
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澄清NBIS法律国籍及市场认知，指出其与IREN等新云公司近期走势分化。
@Andr12988772 你澄清这一点是对的。$NBIS 是一家法律意义上的荷兰公司。我说的是，由于关联和业务运营，市场将其视为以色列公司。最近我们也观察到 $IREN、$NBIS 和其他新云(neoclouds)公司之间出现了分化。
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@Andr12988772 You're right to clarify that. $NBIS is a legally dutch company. I was saying that markets treat it as Israeli due to ties and operations. We've also seen a divergence between $IREN, $NBIS, and other neoclouds recently.
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极度看好AXTI并净买入，因替代风险减持LPTH，因避免恐慌而谨慎发布卖出更新。
$AXTI 在我发布的股票组合中，我对它实际上极其看好，并且在这个价位我是净买入者。我会发后续帖子，但我只是看到铟（Indium）价格每天都在上涨。如果你看2027-2028年，光子学（Photonics）的扩张速度令人难以置信。我对其他股票如 $OSS 进行了减仓，因为它已经上涨了100%，但我仍然持有仓位。$LPTH 有一些关于更便宜的锗（Germanium）替代品的令人担忧的消息，所以我减少了一些仓位。我处于一种奇怪的境地，我需要诚实/客观，但我不喜欢发布看跌更新或当我卖出时，因为我不想传播恐慌。所以我倾向于谨慎，除非是非常重大的事件（如定向增发 ATM），否则我不发帖。上次我发帖说卖出 $IREN 时，接下来的几周我收到了大量的负面评论垃圾信息。
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$AXTI I’m actually extremely bullish on out of the group of stocks I’ve posted and im a net buyer at these levels. I’ll make a follow-up post but I just see 7n indium prices increase every day. And the photonics ramp are incredible if you look at 2027-2027. I did take cut on others like $OSS, after a 100% rally but still hold positions. $LPTH there was some concerning stuff regarding cheaper germanium alternatives so I did trim some positions. I’m in a weird situation where I need to be truthful/objective but don’t enjoy posting bear updates or when I sell since I don’t want to spread panic. So I just lean on the side of caution by refraining from it unless it’s extremely material (like an ATM) Last time I posted about selling $IREN I had a flood of negative comment spam for the next few weeks.
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对比新型云融资结构，指出Coreweave债务风险高且英伟达损失可控。
其他如 $CIFR、$WULF 是数据中心托管(colocation)商，它们不购买 GPU。$CRWV、$NBIS、$IREN 则购买。前两家由 $NVDA 注资。后者 $IREN 由 $MSFT 通过预付款购买 GPU。大多数新型云(neoclouds)拥有极佳的融资结构，如 Nebius 的低息可转换债券。Coreweave 是唯一陷入困境的，背负巨额债务，因此若无垃圾债(junk bonds)支持，很难获得额外资金购买更多 GPU。英伟达给 Coreweave 泼了冷水，投入 Coreweave 的 20 亿美元最终仍回流至 $NVDA。如果 Coreweave 因巨额债务和贬值的 GPU 而倒闭，英伟达损失并不大。
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Others like $CIFR, $WULF are colo. They don't buy GPUs. $CRWV, $NBIS, $IREN do. The first two $NVDA funded. The latter one, $MSFT did with prepayment for Iren to buy GPUs. Most neoclouds have great financing structures like low interest rate Nebius convertible notes. Coreweave is the only one on fire, with massive debt, so it's harder for them to secure additional funding to buy more GPUs without junk bonds. Nvidia threw a bucket of water on Coreweave and the $2B into Coreweave goes back to $NVDA anyways. Nvidia doesn't lose much if and when Coreweave goes under with just a ton of debt and depreciating GPUs.
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发布1月25日美股评级，强烈看好AI、内存及美国供应链瓶颈股，回避高估值与稀释风险标的。
1月25日评级。欧盟关税及$INTC财报后更新。 强烈买入： $SNAP $META 三星电子 SK海力士 $MU 欣兴电子 $TSM $CRCL $AXTI $LPTH $COPX $LIT $AEHR $FORM $AMKR $AVGO $MRVL 买入： $COIN $SMCI $GOOGL $FIG $AMZN $IBIT $RDDT $TTD $HIMS $HOOD $COHR $AMBA $IREN $POET $AAOI $LASR $VPG $OSS $INTC $UMAC $ONDS $AIRO $DPRO $AVAV $BULL $ETOR VLN NBIS GLXY CIFR HUT WULF 存疑 $VELO $SKYT 回避 $UAVS $BKKT WLMT SLNH $PLTR CRWV $ORCL $BMNR $IONQ, RGTI, QBTS _ 强烈买入 Snapchat - 底部约在$7.4，我认为在此位置非常强劲。随着内存资本支出减少及内存变现进入2027年，自由现金流(FCF)增加。只需等待重估。 Meta - 营收同比增长26%极其强劲，上季度产生超$100亿自由现金流。预计下季度财报后走势将走强，此前因光学(环比EPS光学效应超700%)导致BBB抛售，现在应已消化。 三星电子 - 半导体领域的圣杯，三星同时提供高带宽内存(HBM)和代工(Fab)敞口。 SK海力士 - 内存超级周期 美光 - 内存超级周期，但有美国背景支持。 欣兴电子 - 针对HBM、IC载板、玻璃基板、CoWoS及其他所有瓶颈环节的“邪恶”长线持仓。 台积电 - 印钞机，字面意义上不会出错。 Circle - 预计降息2-3次可能会大幅损害Circle净利润，因此已被定价。但在$160亿市值时是极佳的长线标的，他们正在印钞，且应开始看到美元稳定币(USDC)的扩张。 AXTI - LPTH: 磷化铟(InP)/锗等瓶颈。将成为2026年的巨大主题。只需等待AXT的供应链中断或Lightpath的黑钻(Black Diamond)在美国制造。我认为由于产能爬坡->收入增加，下行风险极低，但类似HBM的“登月式”涨价可能存疑。 COPX - 锂：稀土/材料如铜、锂是2026年的极佳长线标的。与上述瓶颈类似，来自中国的供应链中断将导致资金流向确保供应+建设新供应链。 AEHR - 说实话，他们处于AI和机器人两个热门垂直领域。$550万索诺玛(Sonoma)订单可能与美光和碳化硅(SiC)测试有关。看起来是市值低于$10亿的极佳“登月”标的。 FORM - 由于涉及DRAM/HBM及代工/逻辑，可能在美国供应链中变得重要。良率在HBM4中尤为重要。 AMKR - 美国本土制造供应链及台积电->美国转移的极大受益者。 博通 - 财报后近期大幅回调。鉴于超大规模客户ASIC将继续爬坡（尽管有一些延迟），我认为在此位置强烈买入。 Marvell - 与博通故事相同，Marvell因微软Maia延迟传闻而抛售。只需等待2027年营收约翻倍，当市场开始定价这一点，以及在Celestial收购后，他们在互连等其他领域做得很好。 买入 Coinbase - 加密货币近期回调使Coinbase在$570亿市值下价值再次合理。我从未喜欢其交易所部分，但为贝莱德IBIT ETF提供基础设施+与Circle的USDC收入分成，赋予Coinbase相当不错的长期价值。 SMCI - 从$60+暴跌回$30+呈现了极具吸引力的机会。市场极度担忧毛利率->SMCI向海外扩张，特别是主权AI+购买低端Nvidia GPU。且SMCI在那里的毛利率应会提升。也可能因为与客户达成的交易变得“粘性”。他们的营收增长并未停滞，仍达$360亿+。 GOOGL - 此时Gemini可能会接管ChatGPT，所以我会继续做多谷歌。 Figma - 软件板块抛售为许多被重挫的标的如Figma提供了良好机会，其拥有极高的毛利率+稳健增长。 亚马逊 - 价格基本与去年持平，他们一直在增长，AWS表现良好，涉足机器人+太空低轨卫星(LEO)，看起来是未来极佳的长线标的。 比特币 - 始终是极具吸引力的长线标的 Reddit - 估值高，但毛利率极高且不会消失，因为每个人都在用Reddit。 TTD - 2025年的抛售再次呈现了极具吸引力的估值 HIMS - 说实话，在$29时对我极具吸引力，可能会再次放入强烈买入，但当然营收减速非常令人担忧。主要Alpha在于市场未定价Zava收购，仅凭庞大的客户群，他们就能从新客户中衍生大量营收。 Robinhood - 从$140抛售回$100再次为Robinhood提供了良好机会。他们不会消失，加上银行+其他新产品营收扩张，应带来积极顺风。 Coherent - 长线美国供应链，特别是光子学、InP等。 AMBA - 针对边缘AI推理用于机器人爬坡+边缘计算的“登月”长线标的。 POET - 现在基本是1/2现金，通过Celestial间接进入Marvell+超大规模客户。鉴于承销商在$7.25买入，$6.8的股价具有吸引力。 AAOI - 与微软Maia和AWS Trainium绑定的长线标的。两者都尚未真正起飞，所以只是等待游戏。 LASR - 定向能武器非常酷。我不太喜欢基本面如20%左右的营收增长，但技术实在太酷了。 VPG - 与Optimus爬坡绑定的长线标的。我们应在2026年底看到工业用例，2027年底看到消费用例，所以Optimus生产可能现在开始或Q2影响资产负债表。 OSS - 国防板块及边缘AI+$2亿合同的长线标的。 INTC - 做多美国政策，财报并未改变任何观点，只是短期价格。 UMAC - 在此水平上是美国无人机制造的极佳长线标的。 ONDS, Airo, DPRO - 与AIRO, DPRO相同，看多无人机板块。相比几周前美国入侵委内瑞拉并威胁格陵兰时，没有太多巨大的顺风，但主题上看多。 AVAV - 关于将研发类合同->长期合同的错误信息导致抛售，呈现了相当大的上行空间 BULL - 我喜欢像Robinhood, Webull等拥有大量零售用户的券商，因为一旦拥有客户群，就有无尽的变现方式。抛售回$8呈现了极具吸引力的上行空间 ETOR - 抛售过度，净利润同比高，基本50%现金，下行风险低。只需等待财报重估。他们表现也不错，AUM同比70%+，所以不明白为何这样定价。 VLN - 不再像以前那样接近1:1资产/净值，曾有一段时间他们有$1100万+投资(下跌63%)毛利率，$9300万现金，所以会更接近1.1-1.2亿 : $1.4亿市值，这说不通。话虽如此，仍有$8000万远期营收，毛利率从63%->69%，看起来重估机会相当大。市场似乎只是不喜欢与某国相关的公司如Etoro，我想 Nebius - $150亿Clickhouse估值仅显示了分部加总(SOTP)，我不惊讶他们的子公司如Avride最终会超越主营业务。话虽如此，由于$20亿+ ATM在公开市场出售，近期有卖压。随着他们在2026年底达到$70亿ARR目标，应会极速爬坡。 GLXY, CIFR, HUT, IREN, WULF - 继续做多colo及其他新云板块标的。话虽如此，大多数自2025年以来已上涨30-40%+，所以它们不再是强烈的买入，因为已被定价。但仍有很多上行空间。 存疑 VELO - 很多人问我对此的看法，因为FinX喜欢这只股票。他们有很酷的客户如SpaceX，但基本面看起来糟糕。 ~$1180万现金 + $1750万发行 vs. ~$2300万债务。他们几乎没有剩余跑道，现在买入的人可能会被稀释。 Velo是拥有像IQE(欧洲InP供应链)这样极佳客户群但基本面糟糕的完美例子。 SKYT - 它是美国本土制造供应链的极佳标的，用于量子组件或边缘等酷东西。受益于芯片法案，但营收增长非常缓慢。它比Velo是更好的投机性长线，因为基本面更好。 24%左右的低毛利率，非常低的运营利润率，显然已计入市值，但美国纯代工应是一个溢价的好故事。底线是增长不够快。 回避 UAVS - 无尽的稀释机器，超过100%的市值已给予可将对市值25%以下的股份100%+转换为零售出售的套利投资者 BKKT - $3亿ATM稀释，而市值为$5.5亿。无尽的稀释机器 沃尔玛 - 43倍市盈率，不可能。 SLNH - 前方有大量稀释。 Palantir - 担忧估值P/E Coreweave - 担忧巨额债务，$10亿+债务利息严重损害自由现金流。然后是OpenAI的分配/建设，如果考虑到Gemini正在接管OpenAI的市场份额，对其能否履行合同义务存在极度、极度的担忧。 Oracle - 可能有技术性反弹，但说真的，他们为OpenAI(如Stargate)花费了太多资本支出，像Coreweave一样，OpenAI在能否履行合同义务方面存在极度担忧 BMNR - 无尽的稀释机器为愚蠢的项目融资，如$2亿投入Mr. Beast的公司。预期长期ETH质押ETF，做空BMNR，溢价将消失，例如$2亿现金投入Mr. Beast的公司流动性很差。 IONQ, RGTI, QBTS - 量子估值非常拉伸。 _ 总体想法： 我个人保持极度做多，这只是个人想法，非投资建议(NFI)。 许多小盘股和投机性公司自1月1日以来已经重估，我不认为许多50-100%的涨幅会持续（周五我们看到这些标的中有很多获利了结）。 话虽如此，特朗普正试图进一步降息（再降息2-3次），特别是因为中期选举即将到来。 SPY上涨 = 当选几率更大。所以我会保持极度做多直到中期选举后。 话虽如此，这有助于成长、投机性公司等。但我们已经看到这在很大程度上已被定价，如我最喜欢的长线标的之一Rocketlab，季度营收$1.55亿却达到$450亿+市值，所以我开始质疑估值->将许多头寸转向更多价值型（如软件下跌或内存超级周期）。 主题上我极度看多 - AI, 内存, 半导体 - 瓶颈 - 关键材料等。 非常看多 - 美国本土制造供应链 看多 - 国防板块 并会寻找软件到社交媒体公司等的波段交易/复苏/重估机会，鉴于近期的抛售。
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Jan 25th Ratings. Post EU Tariffs and $INTC ER. Strong Buy: $SNAP $META Samsung Electronics SK Hynix $MU Unimicron $TSM $CRCL $AXTI $LPTH $COPX $LIT $AEHR $FORM $AMKR $AVGO $MRVL Buy: $COIN $SMCI $GOOGL $FIG $AMZN $IBIT $RDDT $TTD $HIMS $HOOD $COHR $AMBA $IREN $POET $AAOI $LASR $VPG $OSS $INTC $UMAC $ONDS $AIRO $DPRO $AVAV $BULL $ETOR VLN NBIS GLXY CIFR HUT WULF Questionable $VELO $SKYT Avoid $UAVS $BKKT WLMT SLNH $PLTR CRWV $ORCL $BMNR $IONQ , RGTI, QBTS _ Strong Buy Snapchat - Bottomed around $7.4, imo very strong at this level. Increased FCF from memory opex reduction and memory monetization into 2027. Just a waiting game for re-rating. Meta - 26% Y/Y revenue growth is extremely strong, produced $10B+ FCF last quarter. Expect it to pick up after next quarter earnings due to optics (700%+ Q/Q EPS optics) that caused selloff last time from BBB. Samsung Electronics - Holy grail for semis, samsung provides exposure to both hbm and foundry. SK Hynix - memory supercycle Micron - memory supercycle, but with US backing. Unimicron - unholy long for hbm, ic substrates, glass core, cowos, and all other bottlenecks. TSM - money printer, literally can't go wrong with this. Circle - 2-3x projected rate cuts would likely hurt circle net income a lot, hence why it's being priced in. But amazing long at $16B as they print money and should start seeing expansion of USDC. AXTI - LPTH: Bottlenecks for InP / Germanium, etc. Will be a huge theme going into 2026. It's just a waiting game for both supply chain disruption (in AXT) or made in America w/ black diamond in Lightpath. Low downside risk imo due to capacity ramp -> revenue increase, but moonshot HBM type price increases might be questionable. COPX - LI: Rare Earths/Materials like Copper, Lithium are great longs for 2026. Similar with bottlenecks above, supply chain disruptions from China will cause money to flow into securing supply + buildout out new supply chains. AEHR - Honestly, they sit in two different hot verticals in AI and Robotics. $5.5m Sonoma order might be linked with Micron and SiC Testing. Seems like an extremely good moonshot sub $1B MC. FORM - Likely to be important in US supply chains since they do DRAM/HBM, and Foundry/Logic. & Yield is especailyl important w/ hbm4. AMKR - extreme beneficiary of made in america us supply chains and tsm -> US AVGO - Large correction recently post earnings. Strong buy IMO at these levels given hyperscaler ASICs will continue to ramp (even though there's been some delays). MRVL - Same story with Broadcom, marvell selloff after rumors of Microsoft maia delays. It's just a waiting game for ~2x revenue in 2027 and when markets start pricing that in, and after celestial acqusition, they're doing great stuff in other segments like interconnects. Buy Coinbase - Recent correction to Crypto makes Coinbase value decent again at $57B. Was never a fan of their exchange portion, but providing infra for Blackrock IBIT etfs + USDC revenue sharing with Circle, gives Coinbase pretty good long term value. SMCI - Extreme selloff from the $60's+ back to $30's presents attractive opportunity here. Markets are extremely concerned about gross margins -> SMCI expanding overseas, especially with soverign AI + buying lower end nvda gpus. and SMCI's margins should increase over there. Also likely due to deals to become sticky w/ customers. It's not like they're dying revenue growth to $36B+. GOOGL - Gemini at this point would likely take over chatgpt, so i'd remain long google. Figma - Software selloff provides good opportunity into a lot of the hammered names like Figma which extremely high gross margins + sturdy growth Amazon - Basically same price as last year, they've been growing, AWS is doing fine, they're in robotics + space LEOs, and just seems like a great long going forward Bitcoin - Always an attractive Long Reddit - High valuations, but extremely high gross margins and not going anywhere since everyone uses reddit. TTD - Selloff from 2025 presents attractive valuations again HIMS - Honestly extremely attractive for me at $29, might be put into strong buy again, but of course revenue deceleration is very worrysome. Main alpha is that markets arent pricing in Zava acqusition and just from sheer customer base, they can derive a lot of revenue from new customers. Robinhood - Selloff from $140 back to $100 presents a good opportunity for Robinhood again. They're not going anywere, plus new product revenue expansion from banking + others, should present positive tailwinds. Coherent - Long US supply chains, esp. for photonics, inp, etc. AMBA - Moonshot long for edge AI inference for robotic ramps + edge compute. POET - Basically 1/2 cash now, backdoor into marvell + hyperscalers through celestial. Attractive upside at $6.8 given underwriters bought at $7.25 AAOI - long play tethered to msft maia and aws trainium. both of them haven't really taken off yet so it's just a waiting agme LASR - energy directed weapons are super cool. i dont quite like the fundamentals like low 20% revenue growth, but the technology is just way too cool. VPG - Long play tethered to optimus ramp. we should see industrial use cases EOY 2026 and consumer EOY 2027, so maybe optimus productions starts hitting balance sheet now or q2. OSS - Long play on defense sector and edge AI + $200m contract. INTC - long on us policy, earnings didn't really change any perspective, just short term price. UMAC - Great long play at these levels on drone manufacturing in US. ONDS, Airo, DPRO - Same with AIRO, DPRO, bullish on drone sector. There's not much of a massive tailwind compared to a few weeks ago when US was invading venezuela and threatening greenland, but thematically bullish. AVAV - selloff from misinformation about converting r&D type contracts -> long term contract presents considerable upside BULL - I do like brokerages like robinhood, webull, etc. that have a ton of retail users since there's endless ways to monetize once you own the customer base. selloff back to $8 presents attractive upsdie ETOR - selloff way overblown, high net income y/y, basically 50% cash, low downside risk. just waiting for re-rating per earnings. they're doing well too, 70%+ Y/Y AUM, so not sure why they're being priced in like this. VLN - not quite the same anymore as close to 1:1 assets/nav, at one point they had $11m+ inv (off 63%) gross margins, $93M cash, so would have been closer to 110-120m : $140m MC, which made no sense. That being said still $80m fwd revenue off 63% -> 69% gross margins, seems like considerable opportunity for re-rating. Markets just don't seem to like companies eg. Etoro related to a certain country, I guess Nebius - $15B clickhouse valuation just goes to show Sum of Parts, where I wouldn't be surpirsed if their subsidaries like Avride ended up overtaking the main business. That being said, near term selling pressure due to $2B+ ATM being sold on open market. Should ramp up extremely fast as they meet their $7B ARR target EOY 2026. GLXY, CIFR, HUT, IREN, WULF - Remain long on the colo, and other neocloud sector plays. That being said most are up 30-40%+ since 2025, so they're not exactly a strong buy anymore as they've been priced in. But lot of upside remains. Questionable VELO - Lot of people asked my opinion on this since FinX loves this stock. They have really cool customers like SpaceX, but fundamentals look terrible. ~$11.8M cash + $17.5M offering vs. ~$23M. debt. They barely have any runway left and people buying now are likely to be diluted. Velo is the perfect example of amazing customer base like IQE (EU for inP supply chain), but terrible fundamentals. SKYT - It's a great made in america supply chain company for a lot of cool stuff like quantum components or edge. Benefits from CHIP act, but very slow revenue growth. It's a lot better speculative long than Velo since it has better fundamenatls. Lower gross margins like 24%, very low operating margins, is obviously priced into MC but U.S. pure-play foundry should be a good story for premium. Bottom line are not really growing too fast though. Avoid UAVS - Endless dilution machine with over 100%+ of marketcap given over to arbitrage investors that can convert 100%+ of the shares under 25% market value to sell on retail BKKT - $300m ATM dilution right now while MC is $550m. Endless dilution machine Walmart - 43 p/e, there's no way. SLNH - Lot of dilution ahead. Palantir - Concern over valuation P/E Coreweave - Concerns over large debt, $1B+ in debt interest hurts FCF a ton. Then there's allocation/buildout for OpenAI, which has extreme, extreme concerns if they can fulfill contract obligations, especially since gemini is taking over market share of openai. Oracle - There might be technical rebound, but seriously, they've spent so much capex just for openai (eg. stargate), and like coreweave, OpenAI, which has extreme concerns over if they can fufill contracts obligations BMNR - endless dilution machine to fund silly projects like $200m into mr. beast's company. Expect long eth staking etfs, short bmnr plays, and premium to go under as $200m cash into mr. beast's company for example is not very liquid. IONQ, RGTI, QBTS - Quantum valuations are very stretched. _ Overall Thoughts: I'm personally staying extremely long, this is just personal thoughts NFI. A lot of small caps and speculative companies have already been re-rated since Jan 1st and I don't expect many of the 50-100% moves to continue (we've seen a lot of profit taking Friday on some of these names). That being said, Trump is trying to cut rates even more (another 2-3x projected), esp. since Midterms is coming up. SPY Up = better chance of getting elected. So I'm staying very long until after Midterms. That being said a lot of this helps growth, speculative companies etc. But we're already seeing this largely priced in like Rocketlab, one of my favorite longs, reaching $45B+ MC off $155m quarterly revenue, so I'm questioning valuations a bit -> pivoting a lot of positions into more value (eg. software drop or memory supercycle). Thematically I'm extremely bullish on - AI, Memory, Semis - Bottlenecks - Critical Materials, etc. Very bullish on - Made in America supply chains Bullish on - Defense Sector And would look for swing trades/recovery/re-rating for stuff like software to social media companies around now given the recent selloff.
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批评$BKKT相关人士删帖行为，质疑其留在$IREN董事会的合理性。
这家伙在$BKKT股价因基于虚假信息的无休止吹嘘而暴跌后，删除了他所有的帖子。 我完全不明白@danroberts0101为什么还让他留在$IREN的董事会，这看起来太糟糕了。 信息发现和吹嘘是有区别的。 声称听到内部人士谈论无法应对的过度需求等无法验证的言论 -> 股价上涨。然后在FOMO（错失恐惧症）后股价暴跌时删除帖子，这简直大错特错。
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The guy deleted all his posts after $BKKT stock crashed after the incessant shill from made up information. I have zero clue why @danroberts0101 keeps him on $IREN’s board since it’s a terrible look. There’s a difference between information discovery and shilling. Saying made up unverifiable statements about hearing insider talk about too much demand they can’t keep up -> stock rallies. Then deleting the posts after it crashes post fomo is just so wrong.
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分析AI算力股与云厂商的算法关联及市场定价不确定性。
$GOOGL / Gemini 可能正在公开为这一结果欢呼。像 $CIFR 这样的公司主要通过 Fluidstack 与 Google 紧密绑定。然而，正如我们在上一轮下跌中所见，$NBIS 到 $IREN 在算法上被关联到 Oracle 和 Coreweave，无论 OpenAI 的关系影响如何。不确定市场这次会如何对此进行定价。
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$GOOGL / Gemini is probably openly cheering for this outcome. Companies like $CIFR are largely tethered to Google through Fluidstack. However, as we've seen last drop, $NBIS to $IREN were algorithmically associated with Oracle and Coreweave regardless of OpenAi relational impact. Not sure how markets price this in this time.
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讽刺市场把 Walmart 当成高增长数据中心股
@WenqingLi9 没错，Walmart 确实转卖很多 Nvidia GPU。 也许市场正在定价新的 alpha：Walmart 这个内衣转卖商、增长基本和通胀一致的公司，要追上 $NBIS 和 $IREN 数据中心业务 700% 的同比增长。
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@WenqingLi9 True, Walmart does resell a lot of Nvidia GPUs. Maybe the market is pricing in new alpha that Walmart, an underwear reseller that is growing in line with inflation, is gonna match $NBIS and $IREN 700% Y/Y growth for DCs.
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批评$IREN董事阿尔弗雷德违规，建议其离任以维护公司形象。
是的，你做出了正确的决定。迈克·阿尔弗雷德(Mike Alfred)可能会在下一届政府换届时因所有的拉抬出货(pumping, dumping)和无尽的证券违规行为而入狱。我不明白为什么@danroberts0101还让他留在董事会，这对$IREN的形象非常糟糕。站在历史正确的一边，不利用追随者，这样更好。
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Yeah you made the right decision, Mike Alfred would probably go to jail next administration change for all the pumping, dumping and endless securities violations he’s breaking. Not sure why @danroberts0101 keeps him on the board since it’s a terrible image for $IREN. It’s better to stay on the right side of history and not take advantage of followers.
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NBIS受ATM及CRWV影响，其他数据中心股表现良好，IREN异常。
@_visionarius $NBIS 正在运行一笔2500万股的主动式按需发行机制(ATM)，近期其表现更多与 $CRWV 的走势挂钩。其他数据中心(Colo)玩家表现良好，如 $HUT、$CIFR、$WULF。唯一的异常是 $IREN。
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@_visionarius $NBIS has an active 25M share ATM running and it's more tied to $CRWV's performance recently. The other colo players have been doing well, like $HUT, $CIFR, $WULF. The only anomaly is $IREN.
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FinX社区5天收益超Citadel全年，2025年大幅跑赢机构。
“FinX 对决华尔街”报告 这是 FinX 15，由最受欢迎的标的组成的加权组合： 1. $ONDS +33.26% 2. $SKYT +27.46% 3. $TE +22.62% 4. $MU +13.98% 5. $ASTS +13.24% 6. $BMNR +12.24% 7. $IREN +11.19% 8. $CIFR +8.64% 9. $AXTI +7.56% 10. $KRKNF + 7.69% 11. $NBIS +5.93% 12. $POET +5.81% 13. $RKLB +2.67% 14. $HOOD -.31% 15. $ZETA -2.36% 以下是 FinX 上周的表现： FinX 15 回报率（1周）：11.3% 2025 全年表现： - WallStreetBets = +76.00% - Bridgewater 的 Pure Alpha II = +34% - ARKK 创新 ETF = +35.5% - Perishing Square = +25.3% - SPY 指数 = +17.72% - Poinpoint 多策略 = +11.6% - 伯克希尔·哈撒韦 = +11.4% - Millennium Management = +10.5% - Citadel = +10.5% 结论： 仅在 5 个交易日内，FinX 社区就击败了 Citadel 的全年收益。 进入 2026 年，我们正式碾压了机构。
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"FinX vs Wall Street" report This is FinX 15, a weighted port of the most popular names: 1. $ONDS +33.26% 2. $SKYT +27.46% 3. $TE +22.62% 4. $MU +13.98% 5. $ASTS +13.24% 6. $BMNR +12.24% 7. $IREN +11.19% 8. $CIFR +8.64% 9. $AXTI +7.56% 10. $KRKNF + 7.69% 11. $NBIS +5.93% 12. $POET +5.81% 13. $RKLB +2.67% 14. $HOOD -.31% 15. $ZETA -2.36% Here's how FinX did last week: FinX 15 Return (1-Week): 11.3% For the entire 2025 calendar year: - WallStreetBets = +76.00% - Bridgewater’s Pure Alpha II = +34% - ARKK Innovation ETF = +35.5% - Perishing Square = +25.3% - SPY Index = +17.72% - Poinpoint Multi-Strategy = +11.6% - - Berkshire Hathaway = +11.4% - Millennium Management = +10.5% - Citadel = +10.5% The Bottom Line: In just 5 trading days, the FinX community beat Citadel’s entire year. We are officially smoking the institutions entering 2026
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看好新云板块多数股票，认为WYFI等估值重置后极具吸引力。
几乎所有新云(Neocloud)板块的股票都是极其坚实的买入标的（也许除了 $SLNH）。$WYFI 算是与 NScale 达成 8.65 亿美元协议的 T2 层级玩家。但其估值已从 40 美元完全重置至 15 美元。因此，它与 $NBIS、$IREN、$CIFR、$WULF 及其他股票一样，是极具吸引力的买入选择。
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Almost every Neocloud segment stock is a extremely solid buy (maybe aside from $SLNH) $WYFI is kinda T2 with NScale's $865m agreement. But it's valuation got completely reset from $40 to $15. So it's an extremely attractive buy up there along with $NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR, $WULF and the others.
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2026年1月1日美股评级：推荐SMCI、INTC等复苏及AI基建标的，回避高估量子及零售股。
欢迎来到2026年。1月1日评级： 强烈买入： $TTD $SMCI $AIRO $INTC $HIMS $AXTI $TSM $NBIS $CIFR 三星电子 (KRX: 005930) $HUT $IREN $WULF $GLXY $TSSI $META $ETOR $CRCL 买入： $KRKNF $ONDS $GEMI $NVDA $MU $AMKR SK海力士 $SNAP $RDDT $AAOI $COHR $FISV $FLY $DJT $LITE $AMZN $MRVL $AVGO $OSS $BULL $ORCL $CRDO $ALAB 回避： $RGTI $QBTS $RGTI $BMNR $ETH $PLTR $WMT _ 简而言之的想法： TTD - 估值完全重置，年初至今下跌67%，叠加年底税务抛售。进入2026年是极佳的复苏标的。 SMCI - 仅因推迟一个季度以符合新Blackwell规格而交易得像一家困境公司。前瞻收入同比增长50%，市销率(P/S)接近0.5。税务收割后的极佳复苏标的。 AIRO - 资产负债表约1/6为现金。随着政府加速投资，无人机领域备受追捧。另一只被抛售的IPO新股。进入2026年，尤其在热门细分领域，是极佳的复苏标的。市销率约3.8倍，相比ONDS的25-30倍市销率，当然其教育等业务对利润率计算有很大干扰。 INTC - 它实际上已成为美国政府的半导体臂膀。超大规模云厂商很可能被激励（强烈施压）在有机会时优先使用Intel而非TSM、三星等。我不会赌美国政府会输。 HIMS - 进入2026年前大幅抛售。从70多美元下跌。销售/流量下降，但Zava收购/增长应在2026年带来巨大顺风。尤其是有数亿美元回购，前两个月是强劲的复苏标的。 AXTI - 之前发过相关论点。CEO称“40%的磷化铟(InP)供应链”，InP将是2026-2027年超大规模AI建设中的巨大瓶颈，直到2028年有足够时间通过工程手段绕过它。 TSM - 我引用过很多次。利润率提升。需求最大化。未来几年极好的复利增长者。 三星电子 - 受益于代工/存储。在所有顺风助力业务方面简直是金蛋。 NBIS - 极强买入，$7-90亿年度经常性收入(ARR)，它实际上是5家不同公司，每年三位数增长。管理层引用20-30%息税前利润(EBIT)率，这只是等待游戏。 CIFR, HUT, IREN, WULF, GLXY - 整个数据中心板块在Oracle/OpenAI担忧后极度超卖。OpenAI最近融资$400亿，$AMZN再投$100亿等。因此关于资本支出(Capex)的担忧已大幅降低风险。这也是多方面的，例如比特币下跌影响$CIFR资产负债表，$GLXY在加密领域。但总体而言，新云(neoclouds)板块有巨大的复苏/扩张潜力。 TSSI - 类似SMCI。递延收入=核弹级利空。税务收割后应恢复，且大量收入将被确认。 META - 财报后因一次性税务问题遭遇巨大算法抛售。他们还削减了现实实验室等部门的资本支出/运营支出，这应为2026年的每股收益(EPS)带来巨大顺风。 ETOR - 市值$28亿，坐拥$12亿现金，仍保持双位数同比增长。$1.5亿回购应是不错的顺风，且年初至今表现带来的税务收割效应应会消退。 CRCL - 稳定币论点在2026年应非常稳固。 买入 KRKNF - Anduril合作伙伴+规模。2026年可能转板，国防支出带来大量顺风。 ONDS - 收入增长极具爆炸性，到处都有新的$1000万合同。大量现金余额资助研发。市销率很高，但该领域的投机性领导者如RKLB有估值溢价。 GEMI - 通常我不喜欢交易所，但Gemini从$30+ IPO跌至$10以下。极佳的复苏标的。 NVDA - 巨大的积压订单。大家都知道Nvidia的牛市逻辑。 MU - 存储火热。 SK海力士 - 存储火热。 AMKR - 受益于“美国制造”芯片生产扩张。 SNAP - 存储运营支出削减，存储货币化增加收入，Perplexity贡献$4亿。季度收入$15亿。如果他们将所有这些转化为$10亿+自由现金流(FCF)/年，即使收入完全停止增长，也会完全重估Snap。 RDDT - 说实话，未来10+年不会消失。它是社交媒体界的Robinhood，通过新的收入货币化方式极速增长，且极其盈利。 AAOI - Amazon, MSFT ASIC规模化的互连标的。 COHR - 受益于下一代ASIC的光子学部署。 FISV - 财报后抛售过多，税务收割后是强劲的复苏标的。 FLY - SpaceX IPO带动太空领域火热。税务收割结束后应表现良好，且即将有Northrop的中期催化剂。 DJT - 我从没想过会把它放在这里，但这只是因为他们的TAE合并。 LITE - Google TPU部署带来巨大的物料清单(BOM)，估值有吸引力。Google TPU修正预估后轻微抛售，但它基本存在于每个超大规模ASIC部署中。 AMZN - 七大科技巨头中估值不过高的一个。 MRVL - 分析师误导导致抛售，进入2026年强烈买入。尤其是MSFT Maia收入翻倍时，Marvell当前收入也将随之增长。 AVGO - 像NVDA一样，随着AI基础设施部署加速，强劲的长期持有标的。 OSS - 我曾发帖推测他们是Anduril的供应商之一。但无论如何，边缘计算在2026年将很火热，其1.8亿市值呈现有吸引力的上行空间。 BULL - 类似Robinhood，拥有巨大用户群，但他们只需找出货币化方法。 Oracle - 我认为抛售过多。几个月前我将其列入回避，但从$330跌至$190后，尤其在OpenAI再融资$400亿后，再次具有吸引力。 CRDO - 极高利润率，数据中心部署所需的必要连接。 ALAB - 极高利润率，数据中心部署所需的必要连接。 回避： 有很多在“高估名单”上的东西，比如$RKLB，我喜欢但除了这些之外我不会说回避它们。 RGTI, QBTS, RGTI - 量子名称仍然高估，且可能在未来几年无法交付自由现金流。 BMNR, ETH - 如果你看过我的ETH帖子，我不太看多，因为每天ETH燃烧量只是个位数到低双位数，这简直是笑话。 PLTR - 最被高估的AI名称之一。 WMT - 这怎么是40倍市盈率？这是沃尔玛？ __ （这些基于今日价格） 简而言之： Circle, Etoro, AIRO, Klarna, Figma等IPO名称在下跌+税务收割后进入2026年呈现有吸引力的上行空间。 大量如SMCI, HIMS等过去3个月下跌约40%的名称，在税务收割+一月效应后是极好的波段/复苏交易标的。 许多如FiserV或The Trade Desk等暴跌的名称在税务收割后也是良好的复苏交易标的。 许多数据中心股票如nebius, iren, cifr, wulf, galaxy也是极好的复苏交易标的。 许多其他领域如存储、瓶颈、光子学等在2026年只是极好的长期持有标的，尽管各自都触及历史新高。 仍有相当多高估的名称，从量子到某些太空股票（如planet或rocketlab），特定AI名称如Palantir到零售股票如沃尔玛，我可能会暂时回避，直到有轻微回调。 这只是一个简而言之，如果我仅做短期交易（非长期），但欢迎提问。
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Welcome to 2026. Jan 1st ratings: Strong Buy: $TTD $SMCI $AIRO $INTC $HIMS $AXTI $TSM $NBIS $CIFR Samsung Electronics (KRX: 005930) $HUT $IREN $WULF $GLXY $TSSI $META $ETOR $CRCL Buy: $KRKNF $ONDS $GEMI $NVDA $MU $AMKR SK Hynix $SNAP $RDDT $AAOI $COHR $FISV $FLY $DJT $LITE $AMZN $MRVL $AVGO $OSS $BULL $ORCL $CRDO $ALAB Avoid: $RGTI $QBTS $RGTI $BMNR $ETH $PLTR $WMT _ TLDR thoughts: TTD - Complete valuation reset dropping 67% YTD, compounded by EOY tax sell-off. Great recovery play going into 2026. SMCI - Trades like distressed company just because they delayed revenue by 1 quarter for new blackwell specs. Forward revenue is increasing 50% Y/Y, P/S close to .5 now. Great recovery play from tax harvesting. AIRO - Roughly ~1/6th balance sheet was cash. Everyone seems to be into drones, especially with accelerated gov inevstments. Another IPO name that got sold off. Great recovery play going into 2026 with esp. hot segment. Roughly ~3.8x P/S compared to ONDS trading at 25-30 P/S, but obviously there's quite a lot of other businesses like their education sector which messed up margin calculations quite a bit. INTC - It's literally become the semi arm of the US government. Hyperscalers will likely be incentived (strongly pressured) to use Intel whatever chance it gets over TSM, Samsung, etc. I would not bet against the US government. HIMS - Huge selloff going into 2026. Down from $70's. Sales/Traffic is down, but Zava acquisition/growth should add a huge tailwind going into 2026. Esp. with few hundred mill buybacks, strong recovery play first two monts in. AXTI - Posted thesis on this earlier. CEO - "40% of Inp supply chain", InP will be a huge, huge bottleneck for hyperscaler AI buildout 2026-2027 until there's enough time to engineer around it in 2028. TSM - I've covered this quote a lot. Increasing margins. Maxed out demand. Just extremely good compounder next few years. Samsung Electronics - benefits from foundry/memory. just golden egg regarding all the tailwinds helping the buisness. NBIS - Extremely strong buy, $7-9B ARR, it's literally 5 different companies growing triple digits Y/Y. management quoted 20-30% EBIT margins, it's just a waiting agme. CIFR, HUT, IREN, WULF, GLXY - Whole datacenter space is extremely sold off after Oracle/OpenAI fears. OpenAI recently raised $40B, another $10B from $AMZN, and more. So a lot of fears regarding capex spend has been de-risked. It's multifaceted too, eg. Bitcoin drop, affects $CIFR balance sheet, $GLXY in crypto space. But generally huge recovery play/ramp for neoclouds sector. TSSI - Similar to SMCI. deferred revenue = nuke. Should recover after tax harvesting + lot of revenue gets recognized META - Huge algorithmic selloff post earnings due to one-time tax. They also cut capex/opex spend of their reality labs and other departments and this should be a huge tailwind for EPS going into 2026. ETOR - Literally sitting on $1.2B with a $2.8B marketcap and growing double digits Y/Y still. $150M buyback should be a nice tailwind, and tax harvesting from YTD performance should subside. CRCL - Same as stablecoin thesis should be really solid going into 2026 Buy KRKNF - Anduril partner+ scale. Probable uplisting in 2026, lot of tailwinds from defense spending. ONDS -pretty explosive revenue growth, new $10m contracts left and right. large cash balance to fund r&d. Pretty high p/s but there's valuation premiums for speculative leaders in the space like rklb. GEMI - So i typically dont like exchanges, but gemini got nuked from $30+ IPO sub $10. pretty solid recovery play. NVDA - Huge backlog lol. Everyone knows bull case for nvidia MU - Memory is hot SK Hynix - Memory is hot AMKR - benefits from "made in america" chip expansion in prod. SNAP - Opex Cut from memory, increase revenue from memory monetization, $400m from perplixity. $1.5B revenue/quarter. They could literally stop growing revenue complelty if they convert all of that to $1B+ FCF/year, it would re-rate snap completly. RDDT - This is not going anywhere for the next 10+ years tbh, it's like robinhood of social media, growing extremely fast from new ways to monetize revenue, and just extrmeely profitable. AAOI - interconnect play for amzn, msft asic scale up. COHR - benefits from photonics rollout for next gen asics. FISV - Nuked a bit too much post ER, strong recovery play esp. post tax-harves.t FLY - Space is hot from SpaceX IPO. Should do well given tax harvesting is over, and they have medium lift coming up with northrop. DJT - I never thought i'd put this here lol, but this is just because of their TAE merger. LITE - Large BOM from Google TPU rollout, attractive valuation. Slight selloff after Google TPU revised est. but it's basically in every single hyperscaler asic deployment. AMZN - one of the mag7 that's not overvalued MRVL - Selloff from analyst misinformation, strong buy going into 2026. Especially with msft maia revenue doubling Marvell's current revenue when it ramps up AVGO - Like NVDA just strong long, as AI infrastructure deployment ramps up OSS - I made a post speculating that they're one of andruils' suppliers. but regardless, edge computing will be hot 2026 and its 180m mc presents attracctive upside. BULL - similar to robinhood where they have a huge userbase, but they just need to figure out monetization Oracle - Sold off a bit too much imo. I put this on avoid months ago but after the from from $330 to $190, it's more attractive again esp. after openai raised another $40B CRDO -extremely high margin, necessary connectivity for dc rollout ALAB - extremely high margin, necessary connectivity for dc rollout Avoid: There's a lot of stuff on the "overvalued list" like $RKLB that i like but I wouldn't quite say avoid it either aside from these. RGTI , QBTS, RGTI - Quantum names are still overvalued and likely won't deliver fcf in the next few ytears. BMNR, ETH - if you saw my eth post, not exactly bullish since the amount of ETH burn is just single-low double digits every day, which is a joke. PLTR - one of the most overvalued ai names WMT - How is this 40 p/e? This is Walmart? __ (these are based on today's prices) TLDR: IPO names like Circle, Etoro, AIRO, Klarna, Figma, present attractive upsides post drop + tax harvesting going into 2026. Tons of names like SMCI, HIMS that dropped 40% or so past 3 months, are amazing swing/recovery trades post-tax harvest + Jan effect. Lot of the names that doom dropped like FiserV or The Trade Desk present good recovery trades too post-tax harvest. Many datacenter stocks like nebius, iren, cifr, wulf, galaxy, are amazing recovery trades too. Lot of other segments like memory, bottlenecks, photonics, and others are just great longs in 2026, despite each hitting ATHs. There's still quite a lot of overvalued names from Quantum, to certain Space stocks (eg. planet or rocketlab), specific AI names like Palantir to retail stocks like Walmart that I would probably avoid for the time being until there's a slight correction. This was a TLDR just if I'm short term trading-only (not long term) but feel free to ask questions.
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2026年十大主题投资：聚焦AI供应链瓶颈、软体机器人及支付颠覆。
2026年通讯。 主题投资：演进、颠覆与瓶颈 1. 软体机器人 - 向 $TSLA、$ONDS、波士顿动力演进。 2. 硅光子(SiPh) - 磷化铟(InP)瓶颈 | $AXTI、$LITE、$GOOGL 3. 玻璃基板 - 瓶颈 | $NVDA、$INTC、$TSM 4. 资金流动 - 对 $V、Stripe、$BOA 的颠覆 5. AI云层级 - 瓶颈 | $NBIS、$IREN、$HUT 6. LLM网络安全 - 向 $CRWD、$CSCO、$MSFT 演进 7. 低轨(LEO)太空基础设施 | 向 $RKLB、SpaceX、$ASTS 演进 8. 消费者代理工作流(50步) - 对消费者劳动力的颠覆，来自Manus、$PATH Cognition 9. 分布式计算延迟 - 瓶颈 | $TSLA、$AMZN、$GOOGL 10. 铜互连寿命延长 - 瓶颈 | $NVDA (LPU/Groq)、$AMD、$INTC _这是我对从公开信息综合及瓶颈二/三阶效应来看最感兴趣的主题投资的简要概述！_ 1. 软体机器人：向机器人的演进 传统机器人（Optimus、波士顿动力）依赖逆运动学控制刚性关节。软体机器人改变了数学模型。 我们已到达硬件（Optimus、波士顿动力、Figure）与LLM（Gemini、Grok、Opus）相遇的节点，正处于大规模商业化的开端。 通过使用受章鱼触手和人类皮肤启发的材料，机器人正从齿轮转向流体性，以处理极其精细的任务，如像人手一样处理农产品，或为 $ONDS/Andruil 无人机添加类章鱼延伸以拾取极重表面。 这种演进在于跳出思维定势思考机器人能做什么。我记得7年前曾与该领域的斯坦福博士合作，AI在多年研究后开始商业化，因此该领域也是如此。 将类生物流体性添加到刚性机器人中的可能性是无限的，这只是自然演进。 大多数可能是私人公司。 2. 硅光子 - AI基础设施的瓶颈“磷化铟(InP)卡脖子点” 从Blackwell Ultra集群到Google TPU已触及上限，需要光子互连 | 共封装光学(OCS)以实现扩展。 基板：$AXTI（通过Tongmei）和住友（日本）控制全球约60-70%的InP基板市场。 材料：Vital Materials（中国）和AXT等公司控制原材料铟本身的精炼（78%+的供应链）。 如果你是美国科技巨头，你2026年的整个“AI增长故事”取决于由地缘政治对手控制的材料。 唯一可扩展的解决方案是工程绕行，要么实现芯片上光传输，同时减少90%的铟使用，要么使用微小的磷化铟薄片代替大型昂贵晶圆。 瓶颈本身有机会，如AXT、住友。或帮助解决它的公司如 $POET。 3. 玻璃基板 - 解决从 $NVDA 到其他公司的共封装光学(CPO)瓶颈 向玻璃基板的转变本质上是半导体行业对当前材料物理极限的回答。 当前芯片位于有机材料（本质上是专用塑料）制成的基板上。随着芯片变大，如Nvidia巨大的GPU封装，塑料基板会翘曲。 因此，玻璃基板正成为共封装光学(CPO)的行业标准，因为它们解决了光子学中最大的对齐问题。 美国政府已视其为必要，我们看到巨额补贴流向这些公司。 $INTC、三星电子、Absolics（SKC子公司）、DNP等是主要受益者，尤其是随着MRVL和 $AVGO（推动光学开关的玻璃）推进CPO革命。 4. 资金流动 - 对卡网络、银行、交易所和支付的颠覆 几十年来，资金转移一直是“收费公路”业务。每次刷卡，2%到3%的钱流入卡网络（Visa/Mastercard）和发卡行的口袋。 或者从交易所买卖加密货币是0.2-1%。这是历史上最有利可图、“不可杀死”的商业模式。 直到现在。2025年的“天才法案”刚刚将金钱传输许可证或银行特许状交给像 $XRP 这样的公司，赋予了他们王国钥匙。 对我来说并非理论。我恰好正在自己的初创公司与创建V / $PYPL 实时支付网络的人一起从事这项工作。 但基本上，拥有现有MTL或追求银行特许状并利用天才法案及其他技术的公司，现在可以通过在美联储和区块链之上进行结算来绕过传统百分比费用，有效地将基于百分比的费用转化为几美分。 99%的公司会这样做吗？可能不会，因为支付行业的所有利润率都将归零。但我乐意看到。 但基本上，Stripe以11亿美元收购Bridge本应是对现有公司的红色警报，表明1天ACH、 interchange模式、25美元国际转账的日子即将结束。 这扩展到许多其他相邻领域，从低费用颠覆者如 $HOOD、Mercury，一直到稳定币新银行，或制作自己稳定币的公司如 $SOFI。 5. AI云层级 - 超大规模计算瓶颈的解决方案 当超大规模云厂商被困在3-5年的电网互连队列中时，像WULF和IREN这样的矿工今天就拥有即插即用的GW级算力。 这是千载难逢的机会，超大规模云厂商将其现金牛云收入流向小公司。 这里有不同的层级，从Fluidstack、Poolside、Fireworks在GPU编排层，到IREN等公司构建的裸金属层。 然后有成为超大规模云厂商本身，如NBIS拥有物理位置、GPU、软件编排，然后为推理提供简单接口。 这是少数小公司在未来一两年成为AWS或Azure，或被收购（例如GOOGL以47亿美元收购Intersect）的机会。 像NBIS、IREN、CRWV这样的新云，以及像CIFR、WULF、HUT这样的colo玩家（以及私人部门->能源）将受益。 6. LLM网络安全 - 向现代安全和漏洞防御的演进 最近的报告（例如来自Anthropic红队）显示，高级模型如Opus（及未来版本）可以自主扫描开源智能合约，并在几分钟内识别价值数百万美元的“零日”漏洞。 含义：如果AI能在不可变的区块链合约中找到逻辑缺陷，它也能在银行的SWIFT API或电网控制软件中找到缺陷。 同样适用于KYC/AML。像Gemini Nano Banana这样的模型能够创建逼真的图像/视频，人们能够绕过许多程序。 这个领域有很多不性感但具Alpha潜力的事情，如LLM自动化SOC2/PCI DSS合规，代理坐在服务器上，持续监控日志，并自动生成审计所需的证据。 7. 低轨(LEO)太空基础设施 | 向拓展最后疆域的演进 太空是下一个大事情。这并不新鲜。（希望你懂这个笑话）。但从像 $RKLB、SpaceX这样的公司，到解决轨道拥堵或发射节奏瓶颈的公司，再到像ASTS或Starlink这样商业化基础设施的公司，在未来一年呈现许多机会。 因此，像Impulse、Blue Origin、$ASOZF到RKLB、$ASTS这样的公司将受益于整个链条。 8. 消费者代理工作流(50步) - 对消费者劳动力的颠覆，来自Manus、PATH Cognition 这一点很简单，无需解释。但在对就业+成本节约的潜在影响上显而易见。 你如何自动化商务拓展？如何自动化营销？如何自动化软件工程师？ 这超越了ChatGPT的几步回答，直接进入现实世界，AI代理可以在X上漫游，找到合适的人，发送DM，继续对话，并在一个工作流中导致销售电话。 这是“聊天机器人”时代的结束和“行动”时代的开始，取代公司以前需要的所有人。 我尚未看到任何公司大规模做到这一点。拥有这些的公共公司如META并没有呈现最佳敞口。也许是 $PATH 在公共空间。 9. 分布式计算延迟 - 解决AI计算容量紧张的瓶颈 像GOOGL Cloud、MSFT Azure这样的超大规模云厂商已达最大容量。 Elon Musk已经提出分布式计算作为解决此问题的未来（例如，拥有 $TSLA 网络为LLM推理提供计算）。 “Tesla计算云”论点很迷人，但我识别出的最大物理障碍是：推理延迟。 要生成“Token B”，模型必须先生成“Token A”。它不能同时做两者。如果你将一个巨大模型（如Grok-3）拆分到5辆不同的汽车中以适应内存，你必须为每个生成的Token在这些汽车之间发送数据。 因此，如果汽车之间的网络延迟甚至是20ms（5G的乐观估计），而你生成50个Token，你刚刚在计算时间之上添加了1秒的纯“等待时间”（延迟）。在使用NVLink的数据中心中，该等待时间以纳秒计。 同样适用于零售用户拥有的任何备用计算机、GPU等。有数十亿消费级GPU（Teslas、iPhones、游戏PC）90%的时间闲置。 解决推理的“分布式延迟”问题呈现了计算史上最大的套利机会之一。 尚未看到任何公司大规模完成此任务。也许NVIDIA Dynamo、$AKAM、TSLA正在接近。 10. 铜互连寿命延长 - 解决Nvidia和其他公司的瓶颈 既然我们不能拥有无限的InP，我们必须用现有的东西（例如铜）进行工程绕行，所以铜电缆可以做物理上说它不应该做的事，如在不损失信号的情况下跨机架传输224G信号。 行业在InP上遇到了硬性停止，美国在物理上无法开采和精炼足够的InP将数据中心中的每个链接变成光纤。 如果有任何帮助，那就是好事。例如，NVDA对Groq团队和IP的200亿美元“收购雇佣”。LPU更多是关于推理延迟/架构，但它作为副产品解决了铜寿命延长。Groq的整个架构在延迟上击败了Nvidia，因为它拒绝了光学。Groq使用“确定性”网格，依赖芯片之间的直接电气（铜）连接，避免光学开关的“抖动”和转换时间。 像 $ALAB、$CRDO、Groq，或任何能找到用铜绕过光学瓶颈方法的公司将是赢家。 _这里有从私人部门投资到公共部门的众多交易！只是今天即兴写下了我的想法，但乐意稍后详细阐述。 无论如何，我相信这些主题投资中的许多： 从投资InQ瓶颈绕行（$POET）或瓶颈本身（$AXTI）到公共部门的颠覆者（$CRCL）。 到投资铜扩展瓶颈修复（Groq）、银行特许状颠覆者（Mercury）到私人部门的演进公司（Lightmatter、Festo）。 在2026年呈现不对称上行空间。 新年快乐！
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2026 Newsletter. Thematic Investments: Evolution, Disruption, and Bottlenecks 1. Soft Robotics - Evolution to $TSLA, $ONDS, Boston Dynamics. 2. SiPh - InP Bottleneck | $AXTI, $LITE, $GOOGL 3. Glass Substrates - Bottleneck | $NVDA, $INTC, $TSM 4. Money Movement - Disruption to $V, Stripe, $BOA 5. AI Cloud Layers - Bottleneck | $NBIS, $IREN, $HUT. 6. LLM Cybersecuirty - Evolution to $CRWD, $CSCO, $MSFT 7. LEO Space Infrastructure | Evolution to $RKLB, SpaceX, $ASTS 8. Consumer Agentic Workflows (50 Step) - Disruption to the Consumer Workforce, from Manus, $PATH Cognition 9. Distributed Computing Latency - Bottleneck | $TSLA, $AMZN, $GOOGL, 10. Copper Interconnect Life Extension - Bottleneck | $NVDA (LPU/Groq), $AMD, $INTC _ This is an light overview of thematic investments I find the most interesting from a public-information synthesis perspective + second/third-order effects from bottlenecks! _ 1. Soft Robotics: The Evolution to Robotics Traditional robotics (Optimus, Boston Dynamics) relies on Inverse Kinematics to rigid joints. Soft robotics changes the math. We've met the point where hardware (Optimus, Boston Dynamics, Figure) met LLMs (Gemini, Grok, Opus), and we're at the beginning of possible widespread commercialization. By using materials inspired by octopus tentacles and human skin, robots are moving away from gears and toward fluidity to handle extremely delicate tasks like handling produce like the human hand, to picking up extremely heavy surfaces adding Octopus-like extensions to $ONDS/Andruil Drones. The evolution is thinking outside the box in terms of what robotics can do. I remember working with some Stanford PHds in this field like 7 years ago, and it just so happens AI is starting to be commercialized after many years of research. So expected, this field to be as well. Possibilities are limitless adding organism-like fluidity to rigid robotics, this is just the natural evolution. Most of these are prob private companies. _ 2. Silicon Photonics - Bottleneck of the AI Infrastructure "InP Chokepoint" Blackwell Ultra Clusters to Google TPUs have hit the upper wall and requires photonics for interconnects | OCS to scale up. The Substrates: $AXTI (via Tongmei) and Sumitomo (Japan) control roughly 60-70% of the world's InP substrate market. The Materials: Companies like Vital Materials (China) and AXT control the refining of the raw Indium itself (78%+ of supply chain). If you are a US tech giant, your entire "AI Growth Story" for 2026 depends on materials controlled by geopolitical rivals. The only scalable solution is engineering around it, either by delivering light-on-chip, while using 90% less InP or companies that use tiny slivers of Indium Phosphide instead of large, expensive wafers. There's opportunities with the bottleneck itself like AXT, Sumitomo. Or companies that help address it like $POET. _ 3. Glass Substrates - Fixing the Bottleneck for CPOs from $NVDA to others. The shift toward glass substrates is essentially the semiconductor industry’s answer to a physical wall they are hitting with current materials. Current chips sit on a substrate made of organic materials (essentially specialized plastic). As chips get larger, like Nvidia's massive GPU packages, plastic substrates warps. So, glass substrates is becoming the industry standard for Co-Packaged Optics (CPO) because they solve the single biggest problem in photonics with alignment. US Government already sees this as a necessity and we've seen huge subsidies funneling down to some of these companies. Companies like $INTC, Samsung Electronics, Absolics (SKC Subsidiary), DNP, and others are the main beneficiaries, especially as MRVL and $AVGO (driving glass for optical switches) move forward with CPO revolution. _ 4. Money Movement - The Disruption to Card Networks, Banking, Exchange, and Payments For decades, moving money has been a "toll road" business. Every time you swiped a card, 2% to 3% of that money vanished into the pockets of the Card Networks (Visa/Mastercard) and Issuing Banks. Or buying/selling crypto from an exchange would be .2-1%. It was the most profitable, "un-killable" business model in history. Until now. The "Genius Act" of 2025 just handed companies like $XRP with Money Transmitter Licenses or Banking Charters the keys to the kingdom. Not really theoretical for me. I happen to be working on this myself at my own startup with some folks who created V / $PYPL's real-time payment networks. But basically companies with existing MTLs or pursuing banking charters leveraging the Genius Act and some other tech can now bypass legacy % fees by doing settlement on top of the Federal Reserve and blockchains, effectively converting percentage-based fees into a few cents. Would 99% companies do it? Probably not since every single margin from across the payment industry would just go to 0. I'd be happy though. But basically Bridge's $1.1B acquisition by Stripe should have been a red-alarm to existing companies that days of 1-Day ACH, interchange models, $25 international transfers, are soon to be over. This extends to many other adjacents from low fee disruptions like $HOOD, Mercury all the way to Stablecoin Neobanks, or companies making their own stablecoins like $SOFI. _ 5. AI Cloud Layers - The Solution to HyperScaler compute Bottleneck While Hyperscalers are stuck in 3-5 year grid interconnection queues, miners like WULF and IREN are sitting on plug-ready GWs today This is the opportunity of a lifetime as hyperscaler funnel their cash cow Cloud revenues down to tiny companies. There's many different layers to this from Fluidstack, Poolside, Fireworks on the GPU orchestration layer, to the bare metal layer that companies like IREN are building. Then there's becoming the hyperscaler themselves like NBIS owning the physical locations, the GPU, software orchestration, and then providing simple interfaces for inference. This is the opportunity for a few small companies to become Amazon Web Service or Microsoft Azure over the next year or two, or get acquired (eg. GOOGL buying Intersect for $4.7B) Neoclouds like NBIS, IREN, CRWV, down to colo plays like CIFR, WULF, HUT (and private sectors -> Energy) stand to benefit. _ 6. LLM Cybersecurity - The Evolution to Modern Security and Vulnerability Defense Recent reports (e.g., from Anthropic's Red Team) showed that advanced models like Opus (and future iterations) could autonomously scan open-source smart contracts and identify "Zero-Day" exploits worth millions of dollars in minutes. The Implication: If an AI can find a logic flaw in a immutable Blockchain contract, it can find a flaw in a bank's SWIFT API or a power grid's control software. Same with KYC/AML. Models like Gemini Nano Banana are able to create realistic images/videos of people and people are able to get past a lot of programs. There's tons of things as an unsexy alpha in this field like LLMs automating away SOC2/PCI dss compliance to agents sitting on a server, continuously monitor logs, and auto-generate the evidence needed for auditors. 7. LEO Space Infrastructure | The Evolution to Expanding into the final frontier. Space is the next big thing. This is not anything new. (hope you got the joke). But anywhere from companies like $RKLB, SpaceX. Companies that fix orbital congestion or launch cadence bottlenecks. To companies that commercialize the infrastructure like ASTS or Starlink present many opportunities over the next year. So companies like Impulse, Blue Origin, $ASOZF to RKLB, $ASTS stand to benefit across the entire chain. 8. Consumer Agentic Workflows (50 Step) - Disruption to the Consumer Workforce, from Manus, PATH Cognition This one is simple and needs no explanation. But largely obvious in potential impact on employment + cost saving. How do you automate away business development? How do you automate away marketing? How do you automate away software engineers? This is going past few step ChatGPT answers and directly in to the real world where an AI agent can roam X, find the right people, DM someone, continue conversations, and lead to a sales call in just one workflow. This is the end of the "Chatbot" era and the beginning of the "Action" era replacing everyone previously required in a company. I haven't quite seen this done at scale yet with any company. Public companies like META that own these, don't really present the best exposure. Maybe $PATH for public space. 9. Distributed Computing Latency - Fixing the Bottleneck for AI Compute Capacity Strains Hyperscalers like GOOGL Cloud, MSFT Azure at max capacity. Elon Musk already floated distributed computing as the future of solving this issue (eg. having networks of $TSLA's providing compute for LLMs for inference). The "Tesla Compute Cloud" thesis is fascinating, but the single biggest physical barrier I've identified is: Inference Latency. Too generate "Token B," the model must first finish generating "Token A." It cannot do both at the same time. If you split a massive model (like Grok-3) across 5 different cars to fit it in memory, you have to send data between those cars for every single token generated. So, if your network latency between cars is even 20ms (optimistic for 5G), and you are generating 50 tokens, you just added 1 full second of pure "waiting time" (latency) on top of the compute time. In a data center using NVLink, that wait time is measured in nanoseconds. Same applies to any spare computer, GPU, and others owned by retail users. And there's billions of consumer GPUs (Teslas, iPhones, Gaming PCs) that sit idle 90% of the time. Solving the "distributed latency" problem for inference presents one of the single greatest arbitrage opportunity in the history of computing. Haven't really seen any companies that accomplished this at scale yet. Maybe NVIDIA Dynamo, $AKAM, TSLA, getting a little closer. 10. Copper Interconnect Life Extension - Addressing the Bottlenecks of Nvidia and Others Since we can't have infinite InP, we have to engineer around it with what we have (eg. Copper), so copper cables can do things that physics said it shouldnt like carrying 224G signals across a rack without signal loss. The industry is hitting a hard stop on InP where, US cannot physically cannot mine and refine enough InP to turn every link in a data center into fiber optics. If anything helps, then it's good. EG. NVDA's $20B "Acqui-hire" of Groq's team and IP. LPU is more about inference latency/architecture but it addresses copper life extension as a byproduct. Groq’s entire architecture beat Nvidia on latency because it rejected optics. Groq uses a "deterministic" mesh that relies on direct electrical (copper) connections between chips, avoiding the "jitter" and conversion time of optical switches. Companies like $ALAB, $CRDO, Groq, or anyone who can find ways to engineer around the optical bottleneck with copper will be a winner. _ There are tons of trades from both private sector investments to public! Just wrote up my thoughts on the fly today, but happy to elaborate later. Regardless I believe a lot of these thematic investments from: Investing in InQ Bottleneck Workarounds ( $POET ) or the bottleneck itself ( $AXTI ) to Disruptors ( $CRCL ) in the public sector. To Investing in copper extension bottleneck fixes (Groq), bank charter disruptors (Mercury) to evolutionary companies (Lightmatter, Festo) in the private sector. Present asymmetrical upside in 2026. Happy New Year!
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论证微软向Iren预付款项的商业逻辑。
@Lazarus_Capital 我召唤 @Agrippa_Inv 作为我的第一只宝可梦，来论证 $MSFT 为 $IREN 超大规模云服务商交易进行预付款的好处。
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@Lazarus_Capital I summon @Agrippa_Inv as my first Pokémon to argue benefits of $MSFT prepayment for $IREN hyperscaler deal.
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澄清推文讨论的是IREN微软预付款计算。
@Lazarus_Capital 当然，这条推文具体是在讨论 $IREN 微软预付款的计算。
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@Lazarus_Capital Sure, so this one was specifically talking about $IREN Microsoft prepayment calculations.
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新云板块处于验证期，当前下跌是建立护城河前的黄金买入机会。
新云(Neoclouds)正处于“证明实力”阶段。 $NBIS 的年经常性收入(ARR)增长率高达700%+，达到70-90亿美元；$IREN 的数据也超过34亿美元。 许多公司拥有多年的收入可见性，并得到七大科技巨头(Mag7)超大规模云服务商的背书。 然而，市场表示： “这不是一个无限刷钱的漏洞”。 即股价上涨 -> 可转换票据/稀释 -> ARR增加 -> 循环往复。 它们现在都有资金，$NBIS 持有48亿美元以上的现金储备，$IREN 持有来自 $MSFT 预付款/票据的数十亿美元以完成建设并转化为自由现金流(FCF)。 尽管有《加速推进电气化法案(SPEED Act)》通过、OpenAI融资（降低交易对手风险）以及降息等顺风因素，但近期的下跌趋势似乎是年底税务收割、做空、主动式自动取款机(ATM)增发以及主要是： 等待证明这些公司能否从 $MSFT 与 IREN 的交易到 Nebius 的杠杆内部收益率(IRR)预测中，实现规模化的利润率。这似乎归结为执行力和等待下一次财报。 许多散户投资者在此期间似乎已经投降，但机构持股比例仅上升（$NBIS 从30%多升至50%以上）。 但非对称性就在这里： 如果 Nebius 管理层能实现20-30%的息税前利润(EBIT)利润率并达到70-90亿美元的 ARR 目标，那么在保守分析师给出200美元以上目标价(PT)的情况下，85美元的价格显得极其、极其低估。特别是考虑到 Clickhouse 的扩张/IPO 以及 Avride 与 Uber 合作的自动驾驶出租车规模化。 我在主题上也特别看好 $IREN 在微软交易上的杠杆 IRR 预测，以及来自 $CIFR / $WULF 与 $GOOGL 交易的新云数据中心(Colo)玩家。 简而言之：如果新云能在其预测的利润率、规模上执行到位，并在这2-3年的窗口期内建立自己的护城河，那么整个板块的抛售似乎是一个黄金机会。
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Neoclouds are in the "Prove It" phase. You have absurd 700%+ ARR growth rates to $7-9B from $NBIS and $3.4B+ figures from $IREN. Many have multiple year revenue visibility and backstop from Mag7 Hyperscalers. However, markets have said: "This is not an infinite money glitch". Where a stock goes up -> convertible note/dilution -> ARR increases -> repeat. They all have funding now, $NBIS sitting on a $4.8B+ cash stack, $IREN sitting on billions from $MSFT prepayment/notes to finish their buildout and turn that into FCF. Despite tailwinds from the initial SPEED act passing, OpenAI fundraising (for less counterpaty risk), and rate cuts, the recent downtrend seems to combine EoY tax harvesting with short selling, active ATMs, and mainly: Waiting for proof that these companies can deliver margins at scale from levered IRR projections on $MSFT's IREN deal to Nebius. It seems to comes down to execution and waiting for their next earnings report. Many retail investors seem to have capitulated during this time but institutional ownership has only gone up (30's from $NBIS to 50's+ now) But here's where the asymmetry comes in: If Nebius management scales to 20-30% EBIT margins with their $7-9B ARR target, this seems incredibly, incredibly off at $85 when conservative analysts are throwing out $200+ PTs. Especially considering possible Clickhouse ramp/IPO and Avride robotaxi scaling with Uber. I'm especially bullish thematically too with $IREN levered IRR projections on the Microsoft deal and Neocloud colo players from $CIFR / $WULF $GOOGL deals. TLDR: If Neoclouds can execute with their projected margins, scale, and create their own moats during this 2-3 year window, then the whole sector selloff seems like a golden opportunity.
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解析AI供应链各环节标的风险收益特征，推荐TSM稳健、AXTI高弹性、NBIS高成长。
感谢关注！我来简单拆解一下：我看好金融科技(Fintech)和人工智能(AI)，这是我的两个主要成长型投资板块。像 $CRCL 这样的稳定币(Stablecoins)属于金融科技领域。至于 AI 领域，我专注于供应链投资： 新云厂商(Neoclouds) -> AI 顶层消费者/超大规模云提供商。$NBIS 是我的最爱。 顺着供应链往下，谁帮助制造 $NBIS 和 $IREN 购买的 GPU？ -> 来自 $NVDA 的 GPU，部分 $AMD，以及未来可能来自 $GOOGL、$MSFT、$AMZN 的 ASIC。 谁帮助生产这些 GPU？ -> $TSM 谁帮助在数据中心扩展这些 GPU 集群？ -> $LITE、$COHR、$AAOI 用于生产扩展 GPU 集群所需互连件的原材料是什么？ -> $AXTI 它们都主题性地搭乘 AI 资本支出(CapEx)浪潮，但敞口各不相同。 我通常不会说“1”，因为它们的风险特征不同。 如果必须为复利增长选择最安全的一个：$TSM 如果必须选择 6 个月内潜在上行空间最大的一个？$AXTI 可能因材料短缺而受益，但如果中国封锁出口也可能归零。 如果必须选择 2 年内最有可能实现 5-10 倍增长并成为超大规模云厂商的一个？$NBIS。但存在稀释风险，自动取款机(ATM)发行可能导致股价停滞数月，但从 70-90 亿 ARR 和 20% EBIT 的未来前景来看，长期非对称上行空间最大。 当然，如果 AI 资本支出浪潮放缓，它们都会下跌，因此分散投资于金融科技等其他板块是明智的。
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Thanks for following along! I'll just give you a breakdown: I like Fintech and AI, those are basically my two main growth investment baskets. Stablecoins like $CRCL are in the fintech domain. As for AI domain I am just supply chain investing: Neoclouds -> Top level consumer/hyperscaler cloud providers for AI. $NBIS is my favorite. Go down the supply chain, who helps manufacture the GPUs used that $NBIS and $IREN buy? -> GPUs from $NVDA, some $AMD, and maybe ASICs from $GOOGL, $MSFT, $AMZN down the road. Who helps create those GPUs -> $TSM Who helps scale up those GPU clusters in data centers? -> $LITE, $COHR, $AAOI What are those raw materials used to produce the interconnects to scale up those GPU clusters? -> $AXTI They're all ride the AI CapEx wave thematically, but the exposure is all different. I never typically never say "1" because they all have different risk-profiles. if I had to choose the safest one for just compounding: $TSM If I had to choose the one with the highest possible upside over 6 months? $AXTI from material shock, but it could also go to 0 if China blocks exports. If I had to choose the best chance to 5-10x and become a hyperscaler over 2 years? $NBIS. But there's risks from dilution, ATMs stalling out the stock for a few months, but highest asymmetrical upside over periods of time from 7-9B arr 20% ebit in the future But of course, if AI CapEx wave slows, then they all go down, which it's good to diversify in other segments like fintech.
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InP涨价对集群成本影响微，长期担忧超大规模云服务商转向定制ASIC。
好问题！关于 $CRWV、$NBIS 和 $IREN，我尚未对 B300 集群进行物料清单(BOM)分析，但光网络(Optical Networking)资本支出占比可能在 10-20% 左右。 我记得做过测算，即使磷化铟(InP)价格上涨 30 倍，集群价格仅边际增加 3%，这对 Google 来说微不足道，仅对内部收益率(IRR)造成极微小的影响。 话虽如此，我不确定 InP 成本是仅边际增加，还是因总可寻址市场(TAM)极小且突然用于 AI 导致供应受限而上涨 50 倍。 总之，短中期影响甚微。长期我更担心超大规模云服务商(Hyperscaler)转向定制 ASIC 并将英伟达作为过渡期。 我们需要观察 Neoclouds 是否能在拥有极大杠杆的 2-3 年窗口期内，基本转变为超大规模云服务商。
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Good question! As for $CRWV, $NBIS, and $IREN, I haven’t done a BOM on B300 clusters, but optical networking is probably around 10-20% of capex. I remember doing calculations and increasing InP prices by 30 times would only create a 3% marginal increase on cluster prices, which is extremely negligible to Google but hurts IRR just a tiny tiny bit. That being said I don’t know if InP costs just marginally increases or it goes up 50 times because it’s incredibly low TAM and suddenly it’s used for AI/supply constrained. So basically little effect short-medium term. Longer term I’d be more worried about hyperscaler shift to custom ASICs and using nvidia as a transition period. We’d need to see if Neoclouds can basically become hyperscalers themselves in the 2-3 year window where they have extreme leverage
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NBIS子公司价值或超IREN市值，仍看好两者。
确实如此。单是 $NBIS 持有的 Clickhouse 和 Avride 股份，在一两年内可能就超过 $IREN 的市值。话虽如此，我依然对两者都持看涨态度。不过有点不公平的是，Nebius 拥有两家源自 Yandex 时代的子公司，其业务正以三位数的同比增速增长。这甚至还没有计入他们的主营业务线。
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True. Both $NBIS Clickhouse and Avride stakes alone can be worth more than $IREN marketcap in a year or two. That being said I’m still bullish on both. It’s just a bit unfair though Nebius owns 4 subsidiaries from Yandex days growing triple digits y/y. That’s not even accounting for their main business line
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通过对比 IREN 缺乏核心 AI 资产，论证 NBIS 的竞争优势。
我会用一个关于 $NBIS 与 $IREN 的问题来回答你的问题。 IREN 是否拥有： - 一家由 Uber 规模化运营的 FSD（完全自动驾驶）L4 级 Robotaxi（自动驾驶出租车）公司 - 一家被从 Tesla 到 Meta 等所有顶级公司使用的 DB（数据库）公司 - 一家被 Amazon、Anthropic 等使用的 AI 标注公司？ 这些业务是否都随着 Nebius 的主营业务实现了 100%+ 的同比增长？
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I will answer your question with a question regarding $NBIS vs $IREN. Does IREN have a: - FSD lvl4 robotaxi company scaled by Uber - a DB company used by every single top company from Tesla to Meta - an AI labeling company used by Amazon, Anthropic and others? Each growing 100%+ Y/Y alongside Nebius's main business?
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讽刺拿到 hyperscaler 合作反而市值蒸发
@ChiefLiquidity 没错，拿到像 $IREN 那样的 hyperscaler 合作 = 市值被抹掉 40%。
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@ChiefLiquidity True, get a hyperscaler deal like $IREN = -40% wiped off your market cap.
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Amazon 投资 OpenAI 对 AI 数据中心和 ASIC 供应链的连锁影响
最新：Amazon 的 100 亿美元 OpenAI 融资，以及 AI 供应链的涟漪效应。 $AMZN 将以 5000 亿美元以上估值向 OpenAI 投资 100 亿美元以上。 为什么这是 AI 股票的重大结构性变化： 1. AI 数据中心交易去风险：（$ORCL、$CRWV、$APLD、$CORZ） 结合前面提到的 SPEED 法案，影响 Neocloud 的主要问题是： 1. 数据中心延迟和递延收入 2. 不可持续的 CapEx -> 没有 FCF 3. OpenAI 传染/积压订单风险 SPEED 法案直接处理了第 1 和第 2 点，但没有处理 OpenAI 相关的第 3 点。 影响 Oracle、CoreWeave 等最大 Neocloud/数据中心提供商的主要担忧，是它们为 OpenAI 这个对手方投入了巨额 capex，而 OpenAI 本身没有足够资金承诺这些资本开支。 但现在，随着 Amazon 新融资，第 3 点开始被解决。 - 新增 100 亿美元资金，加上 Amazon 的资产负债表支持 ChatGPT 的创造者，OpenAI 对 Oracle 和 CoreWeave 的早期承诺开始获得兜底。 - 下游影响：这直接降低了 $CRWV 和 $ORCL 的风险，因为它们在为 OpenAI 建设容量。再往下两层，依赖 CoreWeave 作为租户的 $APLD 或 $CORZ 也会被去风险。 由于 CoreWeave 和 Oracle 被视为“行业龙头”，这会立刻改变整个 Neocloud 板块的情绪，包括 $NBIS、$IREN、$CIFR、$WULF 等。 2. Hyperscaler AI capex 浪潮（$AMZN、$MRVL、Alchip）： 我们之前看到，$AVGO ASIC backlog 之后，市场开始担心 hyperscaler 支出减弱，很多相关玩家因此大跌。 但这笔交易的关键条件之一，是 OpenAI 采用 Amazon 自研 Trainium ASIC。这代表非 Nvidia 集群会激进扩张。 - 设计与 IP：直接利好 Marvell（$MRVL）和 Alchip 等 ASIC 设计伙伴。 - 定制硅集群需要大量光互连和 HBM。这会为光子（$AAOI、$LITE、$COHR）和内存（$MU、SK 海力士）创造新的 capex 超级周期。 - 代工厂，比如 $TSM。 以及更多参与 hyperscaler ASIC 建设的相关公司。 唯一输家？Nvidia（$NVDA）。 Amazon 正在成功用它庞大的资产负债表，迫使领先 LLM 摆脱对 H100/Blackwell 的依赖，同时推动整条 AI 供应链。 核心结论是，AI 交易由世界上最富有的公司资助，比如 $AMZN；OpenAI 也正在证明，它可以通过出让股权来扩大资产负债表，以满足需求。 做多 AI 板块。
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Just In: Amazon's $10B OpenAI Funding and The AI Supply Chain Ripple Effect. $AMZN is set to invest $10B+ in OpenAI at a $500B+ valuation Why this is a MASSIVE structural shift for AI stocks: 1. De-Risking the AI DC trade: ( $ORCL, $CRWV, $APLD, $CORZ ) With the SPEED Bill mentioned earlier, the main issues affecting Neoclouds were: 1. DC Delays & Deferred Revenue 2. Unsustainable CapEx → No FCF 3. OpenAI Contagion/Backlog. the Speed bill directly addresses #1 and #2. But not #3 with OpenAI. The main fears affecting the biggest Neocloud/Datanceter providers like Oracle, Coreweave was their immense capex spend for a counterparty (OpenAI) that doesn't have the funding to commit to it's capex spend. But now, #3 is starting to be addressed with the new Amazon funding. - With a fresh $10 Billion and Amazon’s balance sheet backing the creator of ChatGPT, OpenAI's early commitments to Oracle and CoreWeave are now starting to be backstopped. - Downstream Impact: This directly derisks companies like $CRWV and $ORCL, who are building capacity for OpenAI. And by two hops, companies like $APLD or $CORZ that rely on Coreweave as a tenant. As Coreweave and Oracle are seen as the "sector leaders" this immediately changes sentiment across the whole Neocloud sector from $NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR, $WULF and others as well. 2. The HyperScaler AI capex wave ( $AMZN, $MRVL, Alchip): We've seen fears after $AVGO ASIC backlog about hyperscaler spending waning. And many related players tanked on the news. However, a key condition of this deal is OpenAI’s adoption of Amazon’s proprietary Trainium ASICs. This signals an aggressive scaling of non-Nvidia clusters. - Design & IP: Direct benefit to ASIC design partners like Marvell ( $MRVL ) and Alchip. - Custom silicon clusters require massive optical interconnects and HBM. This creates a new capex supercycle for photonics ( $AAOI, $LITE, $COHR ) and memory ( $MU, SK Hynix). - Foundries such as $TSM. and many more related companies involved in the buildout of hyperscaler ASICs. The only loser? Nvidia ( $NVDA ). Amazon is successfully using its massive balance sheet to force the leading LLM to diversify away from H100/Blackwell dependence and boosting the whole AI supply chain alongside it. The main takeaway is that the AI trade is funded by the richest companies in the world, such as $AMZN, and OpenAI is showing it can scale up its balance sheet to meet requirements by trading off equity. Go long on the AI sector.
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估算 AI 基建法案通过概率，并更看重行政命令
是的，就像我和 Sydney Sweeney 的机会是 50/50 一样，法案通过、然后 $NBIS、$IREN、$CIFR 起飞的概率也是 50/50。 要么发生，要么不发生。 玩笑归玩笑，我随便猜的话，考虑到 Bernie 等民主党人早期反对，概率大概是 30-35%。 我会更押注可能的行政命令强行推进，因为 $ORCL 创始人和前沿 LLM 公司与本届政府关系很近。 另外，AI 基础设施现在已经是国家安全风险。
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Yes like how my chances with Sydney Sweeney are 50/50, the chances that the bill passes and $NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR goes to the moon are 50/50 as well. Either it happens or it doesn’t. Jokes aside just a wild guess is 30-35% given early disagreement from Democrats like Bernie. I’d count more on likely executive orders ramming things through given how close the $ORCL founder and frontier LLMs are with the administration. Also given how AI infrastructure is now a national security risk.
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长文拆解 SPEED Act 对 Neocloud 和 AI 数据中心的去风险作用
刚刚，SPEED Act 在众议院取得进展。 这是今年 Neocloud 板块（$NBIS、$CRWV、$IREN）最大的单一去风险法案/事件。 下面是原因和梳理： 美国政府正准备以美国对中国的国家安全为理由，支持从 Oracle 到 Nebius 的 AI 数据中心建设。 Oracle 和 CoreWeave 最近跌了 40%+（也把 $NBIS 从 140 美元打到 79 美元、$IREN 从 80 美元打到 35 美元、$CIFR 从 24 美元打到 14 美元），核心恐惧有三点： 1. 数据中心延迟和递延收入 2. 不可持续的 CapEx -> 没有 FCF 3. OpenAI 传染/积压订单风险 SPEED Act 和美国政府干预，修复了数据中心建设延迟的空头论点，也解决了利用率滞后带来的盈利问题（利润率）。 #1 数据中心延迟和递延收入 空头 thesis：多年许可延迟（NEPA、输电）把高价值合同变成了递延收入风险。$CRWV 明确把供应商延迟作为下调指引的原因，并在财报后大跌，因为相当一部分收入被推迟到 2026 年 Q1/Q2。 如果 SPEED Act 通过，alpha 在这里： 强制速度和诉讼保护。 - SPEED Act 要求联邦环境和监管审查遵守严格且不可协商的截止日期，通常是 1-2 年。 - 诉讼保护：该法案大幅缩短针对已批准许可提起诉讼的时效，比如缩到 150 天，并指示法院即使许可被临时挑战，也要允许数据中心建设继续推进。 结果：从签约到“GPU 上架 -> 收入流入”的时间线，被压缩了，并由联邦政府在政治上去风险。 递延收入被提前确认，修复了 $CRWV、$APLD 和 Neocloud 板块此前面临的延迟、递延利润/收入问题。 #2 不可持续 CapEx -> 无法从资产变现出 FCF 空头 thesis：公司在 GPU 和建设上花费数十亿美元（$ORCL 的 capex 很巨大），但从购买 GPU 到变现之间的利用率拖累严重影响盈利能力和 FCF。 这也大幅影响 AI Cloud 供应商，因为它们缺乏足够电力来把 GPU/capex 变现。 公司因此面临巨大的减记风险，也就是利用率拖累：GPU 闲置时，折旧和通电成本的时钟仍在跑。 这个拖累对数据中心部门盈利能力影响巨大，The Information 关于 $ORCL AI 利润率极薄的报道也提到过这一点。 SPEED Act 和美国政府干预会直接降低 CapEx 风险，因为速度上的立法要求（修复点 #1）实际上保证电力基础设施会在一个确定且较短的时间线内到位。 这种确定性让 $NBIS、$CRWV 和 $IREN 可以更有信心安排数十亿美元 GPU 的采购和部署，知道资产到货后就能立即开始变现，同时也通过降低利用率拖累来加快 FCF。 这种结构性变化会流向整个行业。它会立即降低主要 AI Cloud 供应商（$AMZN、$MSFT、$ORCL）的风险，因为它们现在能更确定地保证产能；同时也会保证 Colo/Infra/Energy 提供商（$CIFR、$WULF 等）的需求，因为它们的核心业务就是提供电力容量。 关于 capex -> FCF 以及建设延迟时间线的空头论点，现在已经被 SPEED Act 直接处理。 现在美国政府准备加速 $NBIS、$CRWV 和 $IREN 这类公司，因为 AI 数据中心已经被放到美国和中国 AI 国家安全竞争的前线。 它能否在众议院通过，是每个投资者都该关注的事。但如果通过，这会是 Neocloud / AI 数据中心建设里最大的、尚未被充分讨论的顺风之一。
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Just now, the SPEED Act ADVANCES in the House. This is the single biggest de-risking bill/event for the Neocloud sector ( $NBIS, $CRWV, $IREN) this year. Here's why and a rundown: The U.S. GOVERNMENT is set to support the AI data center buildout from Oracle down to Nebius on national security grounds for US vs China. Oracle and CoreWeave recently dropped 40%+ (tanking $NBIS $140 -> $79, $IREN $80 -> 35, $CIFR, $24 -> $14 as well) on three core fears: 1. DC Delays & Deferred Revenue 2. Unsustainable CapEx → No FCF 3. OpenAI Contagion/Backlog. The Speed Act and US Government intervention fixes bear-case points for data center buildout delays and addresses utilization lag profitability issues (margins). #1 DC Delays & Deferred Revenue Bear Thesis: Multi-year permitting delays (NEPA, transmission) turned high-value contracts into deferred revenue risk. $CRWV explicitly cited vendor delays for lowering guidance and tanked on earnings shifting a large portion of revenue to from Q1 Q2 2026. The alpha if the Speed Act passes: Mandatory Speed and Litigation Shields. - The Speed Act mandates strict, non-negotiable deadlines (often 1-2 years) for federal environmental and regulatory reviews. - The Litigation Shield: The bill drastically shortens the statute of limitations for filing lawsuits against approved permits (e.g., to 150 days) and instructs courts to allow DC buildout to continue even if a permit is temporarily challenged). The Result: The timeline from contract signing to "GPUs on racks -> revenue flowing" is now compressed and politically de-risked by the Federal Government. Deferred revenue is pulled forward and fixes delays and deferred profitability/revenue that plagued $CRWV, $APLD, and the Neocloud sector. #2: Unsustainable CapEx -> No FCF from monetizing the assets Bear Thesis: Companies were spending billions on GPUs and construction ( $ORCL's capex is massive) with utilization drag (from the point of purchasing the GPUs to monetization) largely affecting profitability and FCF. This also largely affects AI Cloud vendors (lacking power to turn monetize the GPUs/capex). Again This forced companies to take a massive write-down risk due to Utilization Drag (the time the GPU sits idle while the clock runs on depreciation/power-up). This drag is HUGE for profitability on DC segments, as cited in The Information reports on $ORCL's razor-thin AI margins. The SPEED Act and the US Government intervention directly de-risks CapEx as the legislative mandate for speed (Fix #1) effectively guarantees that power infrastructure will arrive within a defined, short timeline. This certainty allows $NBIS, $CRWV, and $IREN to time the purchase and deployment of billions in GPUs with high confidence that the assets will begin monetizing immediately upon arrival as well as accelerates FCF from reducing utilization drags. This structural change flows down the entire industry. It instantly de-risks the major AI Cloud vendors ($AMZN, $MSFT, $ORCL) who can now guarantee their capacity, and it guarantees demand for the Colo/Infra/Energy providers ( $CIFR, $WULF, and others) whose core business is supplying that power capacity. The bear case on capex -> FCF + buildout delay timeline has now directly addressed with the Speed ACT. Now the US government is set accelerate companies like $NBIS, $CRWV, and $IREN as AI Datacenters is now placed on the forefront of the AI national security battle between the United States and China. Whether it passes legislation in the House is what every investor should be watching, but if does, this is one of the largest (not-talked about) tailwinds for the Neocloud /AI Decenter buildout.
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称自己愿意继续扛 NBIS 和 IREN
@kameron_payne 那我就开心地继续扛 $NBIS 和 $IREN 了。
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@kameron_payne I'm happy bag holding $NBIS and $IREN then. https://t.co/iVKXGh1adQ
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认为有资金时这是买入机会，否则持有
@nectarbuffs 对，如果你还有资金，这是很好的买入机会。否则就持有。 看起来 $IREN 刚刚躲过了反向 Cramer。
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@nectarbuffs Yeah this is an incredible buying opportunity if you still have capital. Otherwise, just hold. Looks like $IREN just got saved from the inverse Cramer. https://t.co/YRuRaUGTIv
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用 AMD/PLTR/RKLB 历史说明 thesis 未变时应给时间
同意，而且我已经反复见过这种情况。 2016 年的 $AMD，当时人们觉得它能挑战 Intel，后来在 5 美元附近投降。 2023 年的 $PLTR，当时人们相信 AI thesis，后来在做空者活动之后，在十几美元投降。 今年的 $RKLB，当时人们觉得它在 18 美元可能成为下一个 SpaceX，后来在低目标价之后投降。 当你看到很多散户最爱的名字，比如 $BTC、$NBIS、$IREN、$RKLB、$CIFR、$ASTS、$ALAB、$CRCL、$HOOD、$SOFI 等，从历史高位回落时，看看历史案例是有帮助的。 很多时候，当 FinX 因为大家讨论 $NBIS 可能成为下一个 AI 版 AWS，或 $ASTS 可能成为卫星蜂窝领域的下一个 Starlink，而形成所谓“泡沫”时，如果唯一变化的是股价，而不是 thesis，那就给它时间兑现。
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Agreed and I've seen it time and time again. $AMD in 2016 when people thought it could take on Intel, then capitulation at $5. $PLTR in 2023 when people believed in the AI thesis, then capitulation in the $10's after short seller activity. $RKLB this yeare when people thought it could become the next SpaceX at $18. Then capitulation after low PTs. When you see a lot of retail favorites like $BTC, $NBIS, $IREN, $RKLB, $CIFR, $ASTS, $ALAB, $CRCL, $HOOD, $SOFI, and others dropping from ATHs, it's good to see examples from history. And many of times, when finx forms a "bubble" from discussion that $NBIS is likely to become the next AWS for AI, or $ASTS has the potential to be the next starlink for satellite cellular. If the only thing that's changed is the stock price and not the thesis, give it time to play out.
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认为市场严重低估 NBIS 与 IREN 的长期资产价值
市场现在把一家前瞻 ARR 80 亿美元、EBIT 利润率 20-30% 的公司估到 190 亿美元。 而且它还有： - 4 个独立子公司，从 robotaxi 到数据库，都在以三位数同比增长。 （其中两个在 1-2 年牛市情景下，单独价值可能就超过当前总市值。） 至于 $IREN，市场突然忘记了容量对 hyperscaler 来说曾经是多大的瓶颈。 市场止痛药吃太多了。
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Market is valuing a forward $8B ARR company, 20-30% EBIT margin company with: - 4 separate subsidaries from robotaxi companies to DBs all growing triple digits Y/Y. (Two of which can be worth more than the current market cap in a 1-2 year bull case) At $19B. As for $IREN, markets are suddenly forgetting how much capacity was a bottleneck for hyperscalers. Market is taking too much Tylenol.
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担忧 NBIS ATM 稀释，但认为情绪极低时可能适合买入
$NBIS 的 ATM 发行规模很大，所以可能会持续很长时间。 我真的希望 $NBIS 管理层能战略性地使用它，而不是在被做空期间卖。 现在股东只能相信管理层不会无限稀释，也不会在此时继续增加卖压。 80 美元的股价甚至已经包含 MSCI 流入之后的情况。 $NBIS、$IREN、$CIFR 以及整个 Neocloud 板块情绪都极低，所以如果你还有资金，这可能就是理想买点。
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$NBIS ATM offering would probably be around for a long time given the size. I really hope $NBIS management does this strategically and not during periods of short selling. Shareholders are just trusting management not to endlessly dilute + add selling pressure at this point. The $80 stock price is even post-MSCI inflows too. $NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR and other sentiment for Neocloud sector is extremely low so probably this was the ideal time to buy if you still have capital.
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解释 NBIS/IREN 下跌来自稀释、做空、板块恐慌和散户投降
主要因素是 $NBIS 和 $IREN 的稀释。除此之外，很大程度上是情绪和价格。 不幸的是，$NBIS 有一个 20 亿美元以上的 ATM 正在运行，他们一直在公开市场出售。 再叠加机构空头头寸，再叠加行业龙头 $ORCL 的恐惧，最后是散户在底部投降。 于是你就得到现在的股价，尽管业务基本面还在改善。
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Well, the main factor is dilution for $NBIS and $IREN. But otherwise it’s largely sentiment and price. Unfortunately $NBIS has a $2B+ ATM running that they’ve been selling on the open market. Then combine that with institutional short positions. And then sector leader $ORCL fears. Then retail capitulation at the bottom. And you get get current stock price. Despite business fundamentals improving.
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惊讶 NBIS 和 IREN 回到 Mag7 合同前更低水平
真没想到我还能再看到 $NBIS 到 80 美元，或 $IREN 到 35 美元。 它们现在的交易价格，比最初宣布 Mag7 合同的时候还低很多。
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Never thought I’d see $NBIS at $80 or $IREN at $35 again. They’re both trading a lot lower than when they first announced Mag7 contracts. https://t.co/boqDYeyXzL
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周五科技股崩盘但作者认为散户方向长期正确，类似TSM/MU历史将重演
接飞刀还是抄底？ Oracle和Broadcom财报之后，周五股市对投资者来说简直是残酷的一天。 仅一天内大跌的热门FinX股票： $FRMI | -34.1% $SNDK | -15.89% $SEI | -15.3% $OKLO | -15.13% $MOD | -14.67% $ALAB | -14.31% $FLNC | -13.96% $LITE | -12.83% $GLXY | -11.73% $AAOI | -11.73% $AVGO | -11.43% $RMBS | -11.11% $CRWV | -10.06% $GLXY | -10.42% $EOSE | -9.73% $CIFR | -9.69% $APLD | -9.43% $WULF | -9.48% $BMNR | -9.17% $LGN | -8.86% $IREN | -8.79% $TSSI | -8.67% $NBIS | -6.99% 我通常会对每只股票做更多点评，但这次真的是太震撼了。像$FRMI因为租户流失/融资问题下跌还能理解，但其他一些就很难解释了。 $NBIS现在比政府、$MSFT和$META交易后还要低，$AVGO在$GOOGL TPU加速生产后却经历了史上最大跌幅之一。 你们周一在关注或买入什么？ （该推文引用了@aleabitoreddit的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）： FinX是个泡沫。 r/wallstreetbets上的交易员也一样。 人们持有相同的股票：$NBIS、$TE、$ASTS、$HOOD、$RKLB、$IREN、$KRKNF、$ONDS、$SOFI、$AMD、$TSLA等。 然而：这其实是一件好事。 这些年来我见过这种情况反复上演。 短期来看，当人们买1-3个月到期的期权时，他们会在这些"泡沫化"且拥挤的交易中亏钱。 长期来看，一年后，散户对这些公司的方向判断是对的。 而这才是最重要的部分。 以$TSM（140-150美元）为例，一两年前当$NVDA最初崛起时，它曾是Reddit上最热门的股票代码。 散户的方向判断是对的，因为$TSM是整个人工智能建设浪潮的中心。 短期来看，由于买入2个月后到期的看涨期权，股价停滞甚至跌至127美元，每个人都亏了钱。 一年后股价涨幅超过100%+，所有那些看涨期权本来可以涨10倍。 $MU也是一样。Reddit知道内存是人工智能繁荣的重要组成部分，于是在同一笔交易上扎堆。 然而$MU在100美元停滞了一整年，每个人都亏了钱。 时间快进到现在，从美光到SK海力士，内存是最热门的东西，从65美元飙升至245美元，涨幅超过200%。散户方向判断对了，但最终被迫止损离场。 我坚信像$NBIS这样的股票，我们正处于散户买了太多短期期权、像当初$TSM或$MU那样被迫止损持有股票的那个时期。 然而时间快进一年，这可能就像$TSM、$MU或$HOOD（在18美元时）那样散户方向一直正确、却获得3-4倍回报的情况。 我确信FinX散户股票"泡沫"在短期内可能判断不正确——在那个时间框架内，未平仓合约、宏观波动率和做市商主导着市场——但长期来看方向判断是对的。
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Falling Knife or Dip Buy? What a brutal Friday for stocks after $ORCL and $AVGO earnings. Popular FinX names that dropped in just 1 day: $FRMI | -34.1% $SNDK | -15.89% $SEI | -15.3% $OKLO | -15.13% $MOD | -14.67% $ALAB | -14.31% $FLNC | -13.96% $LITE | -12.83% $GLXY | -11.73% $AAOI | -11.73% $AVGO | -11.43% $RMBS | -11.11% $CRWV | -10.06% $GLXY | -10.42% $EOSE | -9.73% $CIFR | -9.69% $APLD | -9.43% $WULF | -9.48% $BMNR | -9.17% $LGN | -8.86% $IREN | -8.79% $TSSI | -8.67% $NBIS | -6.99% I usually add more commentary on each stock, but it's been pretty incredible to watch. Things like $FRMI makes sense on losing tenants/funding but as for others. $NBIS is now lower than post Gov, $MSFT, and $META deals & $AVGO just had one of its largest drops in history even after $GOOGL TPU ramp. What are you watching or buying on Monday?
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认为 FinX 散户泡沫短期拥挤但长期方向常常正确
FinX 是泡沫。/r/wallstreetbets 上的交易员也是。 人们都持有同样的股票：$NBIS、$TE、$ASTS、$HOOD、$RKLB、$IREN、$KRKNF、$ONDS、$SOFI、$AMD、$TSLA 等。 但是：这是好事。 这些年我一遍又一遍看到这种情况。 短期看，当人们买 1-3 个月期权时，他们会在这些“泡沫化”和拥挤交易里亏钱。 但从一年后的长期看，散户对这些公司的方向判断往往是对的。 这才是最重要的部分。 例如，一两年前 $NVDA 刚起飞时，$TSM（140-150 美元）是 Reddit 上最热门的 ticker。 散户方向上看对了，因为 $TSM 是整个 AI 建设的中心。 短期里，所有人都亏钱了，因为他们买了两个月后的 call，而股票横盘，甚至跌到 127 美元。 一年后，它涨了 100%+，那些 call 本来会涨 10 倍。 $MU 也一样。Reddit 知道内存是 AI 热潮的重要组成部分，于是都挤进同一笔交易。 但 $MU 在 100 美元横盘了一整年，大家都亏钱了。 快进到现在，从 Micron 到 SK 海力士，内存成了最热门的东西，股价从 65 美元冲到 245 美元，涨了 200%+。 散户方向上是对的，但中途投降了。 我确信，像 $NBIS 这样的股票，现在正处于散户买了太多短期期权，然后像当年 $TSM 或 $MU 下跌时那样，连股票也一起投降的阶段。 但快进一年，这可能就是 $TSM、$MU 或 $HOOD（18 美元时）那种 3-4 倍回报，当初散户方向其实一直是对的。 我相信 FinX 散户股票“泡沫”在较短时间框架里未必正确，因为 OI、宏观波动和做市商会主导价格；但长期方向上往往是对的。
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FinX is a bubble. Same with traders on /r/wallstreetbets. People own the same stocks $NBIS, $TE, $ASTS, $HOOD, $RKLB, $IREN, $KRKNF, $ONDS, $SOFI, $AMD, $TSLA and others. However: It’s a positive thing. I’ve seen this on repeat again and again throughout the years. Short term when people buy 1-3 months options, they lose money on these “bubbly” and crowded trades. Long term 1 year later, retail gets these companies directionally right. And this is the most important part. For example, $TSM ($140-$150) was the most popular ticker a year or two ago on Reddit when $NVDA was initially taking off back. Retail got this directionally right, because $TSM was the center of all AI buildout. Short term, everyone lost money because they bought calls for 2M out and the stock stalled and even dropped to $127. One year later it’s up over 100%+ and all those calls would have 10x’ed. Same with $MU. Reddit knew memory was a huge part of the AI boom and piled in on the same trade. Yet $MU stalled at $100 for an entire year and everyone lost money. Fast forward, memory from Micron to Sk Hynix is the hottest thing now and shot up 200%+ from $65 to $245 . Retail got this right directionally right but capitulated. I’m convinced on stocks like $NBIS that we’re in the period of time where retail bought too many short dated calls and are capitulating with shares like the drops on $TSM or $MU. However fast forward a year, this might be that 3x-4x return like $TSM or $MU or $HOOD (at $18) where retail was directionally right all along. I’m confident Finx Retail stock “bubbles” might not be right in shorter timeframes - where OI, macro volatility, and MMs dominate - but are right directionally long term.
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博通财报后AI板块抛售是误解造成的买入机会，新云板块中OpenAI依赖股除外
博通[$AVGO]业绩及其对AI板块的影响，如$LIITE和$NBIS： 博通的业绩"双重超预期"，营收$180.2亿(+28% Y/Y)，EPS $1.95，超出共识预期。 但AVGO下跌-11.64%，并拖累了整个AI板块。 这是买入机会吗？ 是的。 博通被视为超大规模云厂商ASIC代理增长的代表，因为亚马逊$AMZN Trainium、微软$MSFT Maia、尤其是谷歌$GOOGL TPU V7 Ironwood都通过它进行规模化部署。 而像$ALAB(-13.2%)、$CRDO(-5.11%)、$LITE(-12.23%)、$TSM(-3.71%)、$COHR(-9.25%)等公司都是TPU/ASIC建设以及博通作为公司的直接受益者。 博通下跌有三个原因，市场下跌有一个原因： 就博通而言，有一些小问题，如税率变化影响EPS模型，或因更多定制AI芯片而非更高利润率软件导致的"利润率压缩"，但这只是会计处理框架问题。（类似于$META在一次性税收后最初的下跌） 对博通和整体市场而言，是积压订单预期问题。以上所有引用的内容与ASIC市场预期增长相比都是小问题。 博通披露未来18个月$730亿的AI积压订单。而有关Anthropic和META购买价值数十亿$GOOGL TPU的传言，人们隐含预期是$800亿+。 然而，这次抛售是由算法和短期AI泡沫情绪驱动的价格错位，而非基本面破裂。 这条积压订单引用是确认订单的最低合同底线。谷歌$GOOGL、亚马逊$AMZN等公司可能会继续增加ASIC订单，而市场未能辨别这一细微差别。 分析师预期营收转化会更加前置，Q4之后积压订单应该会减少，这给出了2026年更高的可能范围$550-600亿+，而非$730亿预期中的$500亿。 TLDR：关于超大规模云厂商ASIC加速以与$NVDA依赖竞争这一论点没有改变。$AVGO和其他如$COHR、Sk Hynix、$MU、$VRT和$LITE都将受益。 这不是关于营收积压订单的最佳消息，但由于交付周期/订单周期和最低底线而被误解。 如果非要说什么，较低的超级云厂商ASIC需求对$NVDA及其生态系统是有益的，但我们也看到$CRWV、$SMCI、$NBIS和$NVDA GPU/DC计算生态系统今天都从盲目抛售中下跌超过5%，尽管存在负相关性。 这又是典型的"AI泡沫"周期因误解而再次来袭。AI股票普遍下跌10-12%的恐慌是一个绝佳的买入机会。 （该推文引用了@aleabitoreddit的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）: 甲骨文[$ORCL]业绩及其对新云板块如$NBIS和$IREN的影响： 甲骨文报告EPS超预期且积压订单创纪录，但盘后下跌12%。 甲骨文较9月11日高点下跌39.8%，并拖累整个板块。 原因如下： 这次抛售不仅仅是对边际营收miss的反应，而是算法做空和投资者对AI资本支出周期可持续性以及该板块主要租户信用资质的不看好： OpenAI。 甲骨文宣布2026年资本支出增加$150亿至近$500亿，这与报道的与OpenAI $3000亿合作伙伴关系密不可分。 最初，OpenAI是前沿LLM，对甲骨文、Coreweave等公司有前景良好的资本支出承诺，促成了该板块的初始重新定价。 然而，随着超过$1万亿的义务以及Anthropic、Gemini、XAI等竞争对手的增加，市场严重质疑甲骨文、Coreweave等公司是否为无法从运营现金流履行其义务的租户在建设。 我们看到市场有效地发出信号：甲骨文正在为OpenAI创造一种不可持续的债务驱动型"供应商融资"，而OpenAI无法履行其承诺。 因此下跌是理性的：这次抛售是由信用风险和资本密集度的理性重新定价所驱动。 OpenAI融资担忧是合理的：OpenAI缺乏资金履行合同的假设得到其营收($130亿)与义务($600亿/年)之间明显不匹配的支撑。 信用担忧是真实的：甲骨文CDS利差扩大显示"信用事件"降级或违约的概率上升。 此外，我们看到这在新云板块引发传染效应，$NBIS从$140跌至$90s，$IREN从$80跌至$40s，$CIFR从$24s跌至$17s。 但这对$WULF、$NBIS、$IREN等新云公司来说是买入机会吗？ 是的。 这对$ORCL来说是好的买入机会吗？ 不是。 前瞻展望： $ORCL（很大一部分）、$CRWV（25%积压订单）是两个主要依赖OpenAI的公司，这一叙事可能因OpenAI的融资活动而瞬间翻转（+30%+变化）。 如果OpenAI在2026年以高估值超额认购IPO，且其新GPT模型击败Gemini/Claude，我们可以看到这种改变。 然而，许多其他公司与OpenAI无关。新云板块的原始论点是Mag7资本支出从其现金牛业务（Azure、AWS、GCP）向下流向：$NBIS、$IREN、$CIFR、$WULF等。 但随着最大玩家($ORCL、$CRWV)下跌，这些公司算法性地拖累了整个板块。 如果你看各家公司，$CIFR和$WULF由$GOOGL兜底，$IREN/$NBIS由$MSFT资助。 这些是与超大规模云厂商/Mag7的锁定合同积压订单，而非OpenAI。 这种因误解风险而导致的不理性抛售为新云板块提供了绝佳的买入机会，但不是与OpenAI相关的公司如$ORCL和$CRWV。
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Broadcom [ $AVGO ] earnings results and its effect on the AI sector like $LITE and $NBIS: Broadcom's ER was "double beat" with $18.02B revenue (+28% Y/Y) and $1.95 EPS, beating consensus. But AVGO dropped -11.64% and brought down the AI sector. Is this a buying opportunity? Yes. Broadcom is seen as a hyperscaler ASIC proxy growth as companies like $AMZN Trainium, $MSFT Maia, and most importantly $GOOGL TPU V7 Ironwood are scaled through it. And by proxy companies like $ALAB (-13.2%), $CRDO (-5.11%), $LITE (-12.23%), $TSM (-3.71%), $COHR (-9.25%), and are direct beneficiaries of the TPU/Asic buildout and Broadcom as a company. There's three reasons why Broadcom fell and one why the market fell: For Broadcom, there's minor things such as tax rate changing EPS models or "margin compression" from accounting from just more custom AI chips than higher-margin software, but this is just accounting framing. (Similar to how $META dropped initially on one-time tax post-ER) For both Broadcom general market, it was backlog expectations. Everything cited above is all minor compared to expected growth of ASIC markets. Broadcom cited $73B in AI backlog for the next 18 months. And rumors of Antrophic and META buying billions of $GOOGL TPUs, people were implicitly expecting $80B+. However, the selloff represents a dislocation in price driven by algorithms and short-term AI Bubble sentiment rather than a fundamental breakage. This backlog quote was the MINIMUM CONTRACTUAL FLOOR of confirmed orders. Companies like $GOOGL, $AMZN, will likely continue ramping up ASIC orders and the market failed to discern this nuance. Analysts are expecting revenue conversion to be more front loaded, and that there should be less backlog beyond Q4 given the cycles, which gives a higher likely range of $55-60B+ for 2026 rather than $50B expected of the $73B. TLDR: The thesis regarding hyperscaler ASIC ramp to compete vs $NVDA dependency has not changed. $AVGO and other players like $COHR, Sk Hynix, $MU, $VRT, and $LITE all stand to benefit. It's not the best news regarding the revenue backlog, but it's misunderstood due to lead-time/order cycles and minimum floors. If anything, lower hyperscaler ASIC demand is beneficial to $NVDA and their ecosystem, but we've also seen $CRWV, $SMCI, $NBIS and $NVDA GPU/DC compute ecosystem drop over 5%+ today from an indiscriminate sell-off despite inverse correlation. This is just the typical "AI Bubble" cycle hitting again from misunderstanding. The widespread panic of AI stocks dropping 10-12% is a great buying opportunity.
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博主披露核心及轮动持仓，并解释转向方向性评论的原因。
核心持仓是高确信度的多头：$BTC、$RKLB、$HOOD、$NBIS、$ALAB、$TSM。可能将 $LITE 和 $CRCL 移入上述核心多头组合，但它们是我正在建仓的新头寸。然后是短期至中期混合持仓，如 $SNAP、$CIFR、$RDDT、$SMCI、$HIMS、$TE、$LTC、$KRUS、AMKR、$LITE、$FLY、$WLAC、$META、$AMZN、$TTD 以及现在的 $AAOI 等。我在短期至中期持仓之间进行大量轮动。我以前发布更多关于日内交易的内容，但最终在这里获得了太多粉丝，所以想转向方向性评论。发布头寸更新很难，因为我喜欢解释我这样做的原因！我记得在 $IREN 约 50-60 美元时卖出，结果在接下来的三周里收到了一堆恶评 lol
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Core portfolio is high conviction longs: $BTC, $RKLB, $HOOD, $NBIS, $ALAB, $TSM Probably moving $LITE and $CRCL to the core long port above, but they’re newer positions that I’m building up. Then short-mid term mix like $SNAP, $CIFR, $RDDT, $SMCI, $HIMS, $TE, $LTC, $KRUS, AMKR, $LITE, $FLY, $WLAC, $META, $AMZN, $TTD, and now $AAOI etc. I rotate between short-medium term holds A LOT. I used to post more day trading stuff but I ended up getting too many followers here, so wanted to switch to directional commentary. It’s hard to post position updates because I like to explain why I do things! I remember selling $IREN around $50-$60 or something and just got a bunch of hate comments for the next three weeks lol
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看好$AAOI，因其在AI光互联中的核心地位及美国本土制造优势，认为其被严重低估。
我买入 $ALAB、$NBIS、$TSM 和 $LITE，是因为“七巨头”(Mag7) 的收入正流向这些公司。 $LITE 的独特之处在于其在 GOOGL TPU v7、AMZN Trainium v3/4 和 NVDA Blackwell 中的角色。 但我发现了一个新标的。 一家市值低于 30 亿美元的小盘股，符合我的投资逻辑： 名称 - $AAOI 一家小型光子学玩家，也是我持仓的两家光子学公司之一： 1. Lumentum ($LITE) 在每一款芯片的部署/爬坡中都占据独特地位，因为其光电路交换(Optical Circuit Switching) 技术被用于 Blackwell、Trainium 和 Ironwood，作为一种“横向扩展”(scale-across) 型技术。 无论超大规模云厂商选择 ASIC 还是 GPU，$LITE 都能胜出，因为它处于核心位置。 2. Applied Optoelectronics ($AAOI) 更多涉及“纵向扩展”(scale-out) 连接，针对 Trainium、Maia 等定制 ASIC 集群，通过 400G 和 800G 光缆及光收发器实现。 鉴于 $AAOI 在 AWS（Trainium 的大客户）和 MSFT Maia ASIC 中的角色，它也能无论何种情况都胜出。 行业正经历由向 800G 速度迁移驱动的“超级周期”，而 AAOI 正处于中心位置。 此外，AAOI 具有独特的地缘政治角度： 美国优先。 与许多无晶圆厂(fabless)并将生产外包到台湾的公司不同，Applied Optoelectronics 在德克萨斯州自行制造激光器。 美国超大规模云厂商（特别是 Amazon 和 Microsoft）正在积极减少对关键基础设施中国供应链的依赖，这有助于 AAOI 实现本土激光器制造。 我们还看到一家“主要超大规模云厂商”对其 800G 数据中心光收发器下达了另一笔巨额订单。 但 AAOI 的交易表现像一家困境公司；然而，其亚马逊权证协议隐含的收入为 2025 年 Q4 和 2026 财年的 800G 爬坡创造了非对称的风险/回报特征。鉴于其在 AI 建设中的角色及现有的超大规模云厂商合同，AAOI 似乎结构性被低估。 市场终于开始重估 $LITE，但感觉 $AAOI 才刚刚开始，鉴于其小市值以及作为超大规模云厂商 ASIC 集群关键玩家和“美国制造”的独特角度。 市场目前正在对光子学玩家进行大幅重估并赋予高溢价，但 AAOI 今年仅上涨 2.20%，似乎蓄势待发。
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I entered $ALAB, $NBIS, $TSM, and $LITE because of Mag7 funneling revenue numbers into them. Lite uniquely because of its role in GOOGL TPU v7, AMZN Trainium v3/4, and NVDA Blackwell. But there's a new one I found out about. A small cap <$3B player that fits the thesis: Name - $AAOI A small cap photonics player, and one of the two photonics players I'm invested in: 1. Lumentum is uniquely positioned in every single supply chip deployment/ramp, as the Optical Circuit Switching technology is used in Blackwell, Trainium, and Ironwood as a "scale-across" type technology. $LITE wins no matter what. Hyperscaler ASIC vs. GPU as it's in the center of it all. 2. Applied Optoelectronics is more of the "scale-out" connectivity, for custom ASIC clusters like Trainium, Maia through 400G and 800G optical cables and transceivers. $AAOI wins no matter what as well given its role with AWS as a whale client for Trainium, and with MSFT Maia ASICs. The industry is going through a "supercycle" driven by the migration to 800G speeds and AAOI is in the center of it. On top of that, AAOI plays unique geopolitical angle, America first. Unlike many other companies that are fabless and export production elsewhere to Taiwan, Applied Optoelectronics makes their own lasers in Texas. US hyperscalers (specifically Amazon and Microsoft) are aggressively reducing reliance on Chinese supply chains for critical infrastructure and that helps AAOI’s ability to manufacture lasers at home. And we've seen another huge volume order from a "major hyperscaler" on its 800G data center transceivers. But AAOI trades like a distressed company; however, the implied revenue of its Amazon warrant agreement creates an asymmetric risk/reward profile on its 800G ramp in Q4 2025 and FY2026. AAOI seems structurally undervalued, given its role in the AI buildout and existing hyperscaler contracts. The markets are finally catching up to LITE, but it feels $AAOI is yet to begin, given its small market cap size but unique angle of a critical player to hyperscaler ASIC clusters and Made in America. The market is currently re-rating heavily with photonics players and assigning a heavy premium, yet AAOI is only up 2.20% this year and seems like it's just about to begin.
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对比NBIS与CRWV债务风险，指出市场忽视个体差异盲目联动。
是的，这是个很好的例子。如果你查看 $NBIS 和 $IREN 的可转债发行，由于 $MSFT（Magnificent 7）是它们共同的积压订单，两者的利率都在1-2.5%左右。许多新云厂商受到 OpenAI 的影响，甚至像 $APLD 这样通过 $CRWV（主要租户）间接关联两跳的公司，也不得不以9.25%的利率出售垃圾债券。$NBIS 每年支付约7300万美元利息，而 $CRWV 支付超过13亿美元。但市场似乎因 OpenAI 的传染效应而整体联动该板块，未能区分那些被隔离的个别公司。利息债务、风险和客户锚点的差异是巨大的。
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Yep that’s a good example. If you look at convertible offerings for $NBIS and $IREN both their interest rates were 1-2.5% roughly because $MSFT (mag7) is their shared backlog. A lot of Neoclouds are affected by OpenAi though and even by two hops like $APLD from $CRWV(main tenant), which had to sell junk bonds at 9.25%. $NBIS is paying ~$73m/year from interest, while $CRWV is paying upwards of $1.3B. But the market seems to move the whole sector together from OpenAI contagion without discerning individual companies that are isolated. The difference in interest debt, risk, and customer anchors is massive.
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板块错杀提供买入机会，NBIS/IREN无交易对手风险且利用率高。
超额收益(alpha)在于了解哪些类型的合同能让人免受当前恐惧的影响，以及行业内哪些个别组件存在定价错误。$MSFT、$META 等公司的算力容量合同是“照付不议”(take or pay)的。 $NBIS、$IREN 等公司由于与“七巨头”(Mag7)（拥有无限资产负债表）签订5年期合同，实际上消除了**交易对手风险**(counterparty risk)。 然而，它们下跌的原因不同（$NBIS 因2500万股的自动行使机制(ATM)发行；$IREN 因市场担忧其为将剩余3GW的AI云容量管道变现而进行稀释，而非用于数据中心托管(colocation)）。 然而，主要的普遍担忧是 $ORCL、$CRWV 面临来自 OpenAI 破产+无力支付的严重交易对手风险，但由于它们是两大主要玩家，这引发了整个板块的算法抛售。 但这种板块抛售为一些未受影响（除信贷收紧外）/被误解的公司提供了良好的买入机会。 此外，AI是一个增长的市场，目前可能存在算力紧张（例如 anthropic、gemini 和其他模型），但 $NBIS、$IREN 在超大规模云服务商合同上的利用率基本为100%。 显然，如果存在过度建设，可能会导致利润率压缩，但我们目前尚未看到这种情况。5年后会发生什么，我不知道。
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The alpha is knowing what types of contracts lead to isolation from current fears and where there's mispricing on individual components in the sector. Compute capacity contracts are take or pay for $MSFT, $META, and others. Companies like $NBIS, $IREN and others are effectively de-risked due to **no counterparty risk** from Mag7 (infinite balance sheets) and 5 Year contracts. However, their drops were different reasons ( $NBIS, 25M share ATM), $IREN fears over dilution for monetizing their rest of the 3 GW capacity pipeline for AI Cloud instead of colo. However, the main overarching fear was that $ORCL, $CRWV faces severe counterparty risk from OpenAI insolvency + inability to pay, but this causes a sector algorithmic selloff because they're the two largest players. But this sector sell-off is a good buying opportunity for some of the unaffected (minus credit tightening) / misunderstood companies. Also AI is a growing market, and there's likely compute strain for the time being (eg. anthropic, gemini, and other models) but it's basically 100% utilization for hyperscaler contracts on $NBIS, $IREN. Obviously if there's overbuild, there's probably margin compression but we're not seeing that right now. What happens after 5 years I don't know.
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甲骨文因OpenAI信用风险大跌，新云板块错杀，建议买入非OpenAI依赖标的。
甲骨文($ORCL)的财报结果及其对$NBIS和$IREN等“新云(Neocloud)”板块的影响： 甲骨文财报EPS超预期且积压订单创纪录，但盘后仍下跌12%。 甲骨文自9月11日高点以来已下跌39.8%，并拖累了整个板块。 原因如下： 抛售不仅是对营收轻微不及预期的反应，更是算法做空和投资者对AI资本支出(Capex)周期可持续性，以及该板块主要租户OpenAI偿债能力的担忧。 甲骨文宣布2026年资本支出增加150亿美元至近500亿美元，这与据报道的与OpenAI的3000亿美元合作伙伴关系密不可分。 最初，OpenAI作为前沿大语言模型(LLM)，向甲骨文、Coreweave等承诺了诱人的资本支出，推动了板块的初步重估。 然而，随着超过1万亿美元的债务义务以及来自Anthropic、Gemini、XAI等的竞争加剧，市场严重怀疑甲骨文、Coreweave等是否为一家无法通过经营性现金流履行义务的租户建设基础设施。 市场有效发出了信号：甲骨文正在为无法履行承诺的OpenAI提供不可持续的债务融资“供应商融资(Vendor Financing)”。 因此，下跌是理性的：抛售由信用风险和资本密集度的理性重估驱动。 OpenAI资金担忧是合理的：OpenAI缺乏资金履行合同的假设，由其收入(130亿美元)与义务(600亿美元/年)之间的巨大错配所支持。 信用担忧是真实的：甲骨文信用违约互换(CDS)利差的扩大表明“信用事件”降级或违约的概率上升。 此外，我们看到这在“新云”板块中引发了传染效应：$NBIS从140美元跌至90美元区间，$IREN从80美元跌至40美元区间，$CIFR从20多美元跌至17美元区间。 但这对于$WULF、$NBIS、$IREN等新云公司是否是买入机会？ 是的。 这对$ORCL是否是好的买入机会？ 不是。 前瞻展望： $ORCL(大部分)和$CRWV(25%积压订单)是两大主要依赖OpenAI的玩家，这一叙事可能因OpenAI的融资活动而瞬间反转(+30%以上波动)。 如果OpenAI在2026年以高估值进行超额认购的IPO，且其新GPT模型击败Gemini/Claude，情况可能改变。 然而，许多其他玩家与OpenAI隔离。新云板块的原始逻辑是Mag7从其现金牛业务(Azure, AWS, GCP)向下漏斗资金至：$NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR, $WULF等。 但随着最大玩家($ORCL, $CRWV)下跌，算法交易拖累了整个板块。 如果单独看公司，$CIFR和$WULF由$GOOGL背书，$IREN/$NBIS由$MSFT资助。 这些是来自超大规模云厂商/Mag7的锁定合同积压，而非OpenAI。 这种因误解风险而导致的非理性抛售，为新云板块提供了绝佳的买入机会，但不包括与OpenAI绑定的$ORCL和$CRWV。
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Oracle [ $ORCL ] earning results and its effect on the neocloud sector like $NBIS & $IREN: Oracle reported earnings with a beat on EPS and a record backlog but, dropped 12% after hours. Oracle is down 39.8% from September 11th highs and brought down the sector with it. Here's why: The sell-off was not merely a reaction to marginal revenue miss, but both an algorithmic short and investor selloff on the sustainability of the AI capex cycle and the creditworthiness of the sector's primary tenant: OpenAI. Oracle's announcement of a $15 billion increase in 2026 capital spending to nearly $50 billion was inextricably linked to a reported $300 billion partnership with OpenAI. Originally, OpenAI was the frontier LLM, with promising capex promises to Oracle, Coreweave and others, contributing to the initial repricing of the sector. However, with over $1t+ in obligations and increasing competition from Anthropic, Gemini, XAI, and others, the markets have serious doubts on whether Oracle, Coreweave, and others are building for a tenant that cannot currently fund its obligations from operating cash flow. WE're seeing the market effectively signaling that the market Oracle is creating an unsustainable debt-funded "vendor financing" for OpenAI, which cannot fulfill its promises. So, the drop was rational: The sell-off was driven by a rational repricing of credit risk and capital intensity. OpenAI Funding Fear is Valid: The hypothesis that OpenAI lacks the funds to honor its contracts is supported by a glaring mismatch between its revenue ($13B) and its obligations ($60B/year). Credit Fears are Real: The widening of Oracle's CDS spreads sees a rising probability of a "credit event" downgrade or default. Furthermore, we're seeing this trigger a contagion effect across the "Neocloud" sector from $NBIS dropping from $140 to $90s, $IREN dropping $80 to $40s, $CIFR dropping from $24s to $17s. But is this a buying opportunity for Neoclouds like $WULF, $NBIS, $IREN, and others? Yes. Is this a good buying opportunity for $ORCL? No. Forward Outlook: $ORCL (large portion) , $CRWV (25% backlog) are the two players largely dependent on OpenAI and this narrative can flip in an instant (+30%+ change) depending on capital raising activity from OpenAI. If OpenAI files for an oversubscribed IPO in 2026 at high valuations and it's new GPT models beats out Gemini/Claude, we can see this change. However, many other players are isolated from OpenAI. The original thesis of the Neocloud sector was Mag7 capex funndel from their cash cows segments (Azure, AWS, GCP) down into: $NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR, $WULF, and others. But as the largest players ( $ORCL, $CRWV) fall, these algorithmically bring down the whole sector. If you look at the companies individually, companies like $CIFR and $WULF are being backstopped by $GOOGL, and $IREN / $NBIS are funded by $MSFT. These are locked in contract backlogs from Hyperscalers/Mag7, not OpenAI. This irrational selloff due to misunderstanding of risks presents an amazing buying opportunity for the Necoloud sector, but not companies tied to OpenAI like $ORCL and $CRWV.
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美联储降息后发布12月11日个股评级，重点推荐AI基建、稳定币及超跌成长股。
美联储降息25个基点后。 12月11日评级： 强烈买入： $CRCL $COIN $AMKR $CRDO $IBIT $MSTR $AMZN $SMCI $TSM $TSSI SK海力士 $SNAP 三星电子 $ALAB $META $NBIS $CIFR 买入： $KRUS $AVGO $NFLX $KRKNF $HIMS $FLY $OSS $TE $FLNC $LITE $COHR $RKLB $TTD $NVDA $CLS $GOOGL $RDDT $WULF $CRWV $IREN $GLXY $WLAC $MPWR 回避 $RGTI $PLTR $WMT $ETH $BMNR $TSLA $IONQ $ORCL $SLNH $OKLO 解释： 今天美联储如期降息25个基点。这通常会引导流动性进入成长股，并利好那些债务使用最多（以更低利率再融资）的中小盘股，例如像$NBIS和$CIFR这样的新云(Neoclouds)。 然而，这也恰逢日本加息，可能导致去年重新加载的套息交易(Carry Trade)平仓；但这是短期的，基本面>短期波动。 强烈买入评级： Circle - 大幅下跌主要由于IPO后的股份解禁。然而，降息损害了其商业模式~利息收入减少20%。 话虽如此，我们看到稳定币市场大幅增长，我个人看到大量早期风险投资（a16z, Sequoia等）涌入与稳定币相关的公司，如新银行(Neobanks)。我们应该看到所有这些都流入更多的USDC铸造，铸造量将抵消降息的影响。 Coinbase - 与Circle相同，他们在USDC方面有50%的收入分成。然而，他们还有自己的交易所，而且降息通常有助于风险资产如加密货币（尤其是比特币跌破9万美元后）。 Amkor - 受益于半导体/晶圆厂向美国制造的转移。 Credo - 过去5天下跌-16%，今天下跌8%。很好的恢复性买入，不认为数据中心建设的数据连接需求会下降。 ALAB - 与CRDO相同的论点 IBIT (比特币) - 始终是长线好标的，尤其是在$93K时 Microstrategy (MSTR) - 受益于比特币复苏，并分析了他们是否会爆仓。TLDR：不会，在需要支付利息之前（约2029年），我们还有另一次比特币减半事件。 Amazon - 今年一动不动。基本面改善，年底有助于电商部门。定制芯片、星座、Robotaxi，他们基本上什么都做，而市场尚未真正奖励他们的努力。只是感觉我们可能会在接下来的2个月看到它跑赢大盘。 SMCI - 之前发过关于这个的论点帖，惊人的恢复性买入。它因将收入积压转移到下一季度而在财报后下跌，但市场没有定价他们未来收入同比增长60%但交易在~11倍远期市盈率的事实。 TSM - 整个AI/半导体建设的骨干。我们看到关于TPU与GPU的争论，但TSM不在乎。 TSSI - 与SMCI相同的论点，依附于Dell，作为一个代理，我们看到来自IREN等供应商和其他在2026年建设数据中心的新云的巨大积压，我们应该看到这在明年实现。 SK海力士 - 显然有关于在美国市场上市升级的传闻，这应该提振流动性。此外，内存市场因AI建设而需求极高。 Snapchat - 只是被低估。$13B市值，~1B+季度收入。NA DAU较上季度下降3%，但不要为了成为下一个FB而买入。他们只需要削减GCP成本并货币化记忆功能（他们已经做了），我们应该看到明年重新评级100%+，特别是随着Perplixty交易带来的$400m+额外收入/股权。 三星电子 - 人们认为这也是内存，因为它构成了他们利润的很大一部分，但我将其视为潜在的下一个现金牛晶圆厂玩法，如TSM，作为第二大玩家吸收任何最大产能溢出。 META - 一次性税收抛售，超卖。现在我们终于看到他们创建前沿模型（Avacado，如果我记得没错的话）。所以他们可以货币化他们一直在花钱的llama开源llm努力。他们还削减了元宇宙努力，这应该是对盈利能力的巨大推动。 Nebius - 由于2500万股稀释导致短期拖累。ATM可能正在提供。话虽如此，一旦完成，由于来自其DC业务（7-9B ARR）及其4家市场未定价的子公司（同比增长100%+）的远期收入/增长，极度低估。 CIFR - 由于比特币价格（资产负债表上持有大量）导致短期下跌，但由于他们做托管(Colo)模式，不受GPU贬值争论的太大影响。此外由Google背书，并与Amazon有合同，因此从根本上降低了风险，是新云领域的顶级买入之一。 买入评级： 文字空间不够，所以给出更短的TLDR Kura Sushi - 波段交易，拉出5年图表，你会明白我的意思，每次它触底（大约现在）。这从未失败过！ Broadcom - 超大规模建设，与联发科一起对TPU至关重要 Netflix - 16%的下跌对于收购来说感觉有点不必要 KRKNF - 基本面增长良好，作为Andruil供应商的市场具有防御性。 HIMS - 股票回购计划，通常低于$40是很好的买入/波段交易。Zava收购未被定价，且仍在增长。 FLY - SpaceX $1.5T估值应该提振整个太空板块。这是2026年中型发射的玩法。 OSS - 之前对此进行过DD，潜在的Andruil供应商。否则，在这个市值下无论如何都有些低估。 TE - 少数Murican能源基础设施之一，太阳能。它可能比核能更商业化。 FLNC - 与AI建设+能源相同的论点 LITE - 现在相当过度延伸，不会追高。但长期受益于处于tpu ironwood + blackwell建设的中间。 COHR - 与Lite相同，但似乎是次要玩家。 RKLB - 可能是我最喜欢的长线。现在相当高估，但由于SpaceX的FOMO无法避免。 TTD - 之前的论点帖，仅基于远期收入数字，似乎是一个很好的恢复性玩法。 NVDA - TPU恐惧有点夸大，看看积压订单。 CLS - TPU v7生态系统买入 GOOGL - 他们像NVDA一样销售TPU，像Waymo一样增长Robotaxi市场，Gemini成功。全方位开火。 Reddit - 就像早期的Robinhood一样，只是一台印钞机。对RDDT通过FCF增长收购做了一些论点评论。否则，他们将留下来并受益于所有世代使用它（不像Snap那样早期） WULF - 类似于CIFR。重新评级可能会发生，取决于更多关于Anthropic建设的信息。 CRWV - 糟糕，糟糕的长线。良好的短期恢复性买入。 IREN - 如果他们继续购买GPU来做AI云，我不会把钱投进去，只是因为稀释。但他们可能会做托管，并且拥有大量的GW容量，所以仍然很有希望。 GLXY - 数据中心建设的受益者。 WLAC - 可能他们本月进行SPAC IPO。他们说Q4。 MPWR - TPU v7生态系统买入 回避 RGTI - 量子，没有基本面/收入支持 PLTR - 449.01B市值lol WMT - 他们每年增长4%的收入，但交易在40倍市盈率，这很疯狂。 ETH - 以太坊伟大的网络。然而，没有代币销毁，也没有收入流向代币持有者。糟糕的投资，伟大的开发者工具/生态系统。 BMNR - 以太坊代理。 TSLA - 有点脱离基本面。但这是对elon musk、大规模Robotaxi、机器人的赌注。我个人只是认为这过度承诺，但我们会看到。 IONQ - 量子，没有基本面/收入支持 ORCL - 大部分远期积压依赖于openai，如果openai在市场份额上输给claude/gemini，这使得事情极其不确定/有风险。话虽如此，现在是一个很好的恢复性买入，但长期来看有风险。 SLNH - 如果你想被他们的2.8gw管道稀释到虚无，这是要持有的股票。 OKLO - 没有像量子那样的基本面来支持目前的市值，这可能需要多年才能实现。
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Post-Fed Interest Rate 25BPS cut. December 11th ratings: Strong Buy: $CRCL $COIN $AMKR $CRDO $IBIT $MSTR $AMZN $SMCI $TSM $TSSI Sk Hynix $SNAP Samsung Electronics $ALAB $META $NBIS $CIFR Buy: $KRUS $AVGO $NFLX $KRKNF $HIMS $FLY $OSS $TE $FLNC $LITE $COHR $RKLB $TTD $NVDA $CLS $GOOGL $RDDT $WULF $CRWV $IREN $GLXY $WLAC $MPWR Avoid $RGTI $PLTR $WMT $ETH $BMNR $TSLA $IONQ $ORCL $SLNH $OKLO Explanations: Today fed cut interest rates 25BPS as expected. This usually funnel liquidity into growth stocks and benefits small-medium caps that use debt the most (refinance with lower interest rates), such as Neoclouds like $NBIS and $CIFR. However, this coincides with Japan hiking, which might lead to carry trade unwind from last year's reload; but this is short term, fundamentals > volatility short term. Strong Buy Ratings: Circle - Massive drop mainly due to share unlock post IPO. However, rate cuts hurt their business model ~20% revenue cut from interest. That being said, we're seeing a massive growth in the stablecoin market, and I'm personally seeing huge early venture capital funding (a16z, sequioa, etc). being poured into stablecoin related companies such as Neobanks. We should see all of this funnel into more USDC printing, and the printer outweigh rate cuts. Coinbase - Same as Circle, they have 50% revenue sharing in terms of USDC. However, they also have their exchange on top, and rate cuts generally help riskier assets such as crypto (especially post drop Bitcoin sub 90k) Amkor - Benefits from Made in America shift to semis/fab. Credo - Dropped -16% last 5 days, and 8% today. Great recovery buy, don't see connectivity demand dropping from DC buildout. ALAB - Same thesis as CRDO IBIT (Bitcoin) - Always a great long, especially so at $93K Microstrategy (MSTR) - Benefits from Bitcoin recovery and did an analysis whether they would get liquidated or not. TLDR: no, we have another bitcoin halving event before they need to pay off interest, which was around 2029. Amazon - Hasn't moved an inch all year. Fundamentals improving, EOY helps E-commerce division. Custom chips, constellations, robotaxis, they're basically doing everything and market hasn't really rewarded their effort yet. Just a feeling we might see this outperform next 2 months. SMCI - Did a thesis post on this earlier, amazing recovery buy. It dropped on earnings due to shifting revenue backlog to next quarter, but markets aren't pricing in the fact they're growing 60% Y/Y forward revenue but trading at ~11 forward p/e or so. TSM - Backbone of the whole AI/semi buildout. We're seeing arguments about TPU vs. GPU, but TSM doesn't care. TSSI - Same thesis with SMCI, piggybacks off of Dell, just as a proxy we're seeing massive backlog from vendors such as IREN, and other neoclouds building out DCs 2026, and we should see this come into fruition next year. Sk Hynix - Apparently there's been rumors about uplisting to US markets, which should be a boost to liquidity. Also memory markets is just incredibly high demand from AI buildout. Snapchat - Just undervalued. $13B marketcap, ~1B+ quarterly revenue. NA DAU dropped 3% from last quarter but don't buy this for being the next FB. All they need to do is cut GCP costs and monetize memories (which they did) and we should see this re-rate 100%+ next year, especially with $400m+ in added revenue/equity from the Perplixty deal Samsung Electronics - People think of this as memory as well because it makes up a large part of their profit, but i see this as a potential next cash cow foundry play like TSM, as the 2nd largest player to soak up any max capacity overflow. META - One time tax selloff, was oversold. Now we finally see them create a frontier model (Avacado) if i remember correctly. So they can monetize the llama open source llm efforts they've been just blowing money on. They also cut their metaverse efforts, which should be a huge boost in proftiability. Nebius - Short term drag due to 25m share dilution. ATM is likely being offered. That being said once this finishes, insanely undervalued due to forward revenue/growth from both its DC business (7-9B ARR), and its 4 subsidaries that the markets dont price in (growing 100%+ Y/Y) CIFR - Short term drop due to Bitcoin prices (holding a lot on balance sheet), but not really affected by GPU depreciation arguments since they do colo models. Also backstopped by google, and they have contracts with Amazon, so fundamentally disrisked and one of the top buys in neocloud secotr. Buy Ratings: Running out of text space so will give a shorter TLDR Kura Sushi - Swing trade zoom out 5 year chart and you'll see what I mean every time it bottoms (around now). This never fails! Broadcom - Hyperscaler buildout, critical to TPU alongside Mediatek Netflix - 16% drop feels a bit unwarranted for the acquisition KRKNF - Great growing fundamentals and defensible market as an andruil supplier. HIMS - Share buyback program, usually sub $40 great buy/swing trade. Zava acqusition not being priced in and it's still growing. FLY - SpaceX $1.5T valuation should boost up the whole space sector. This was a 2026 play for medium lift. OSS - DD on this earlier potential andruil supplier. Otherwise, kind of undervalued at this MC anyway. TE - One of the few Murican energy infra, Solar. It's likely more commercial than Nuclear. FLNC - Same thesis with AI buildout + energy LITE - Pretty overextended right now, wouldn't chase. But long term benefits from being in the middle of both tpu ironwood + blackwell buildout COHR - Same with Lite, but seems like a secondary player. RKLB - Probably my favorite long. Pretty overvalued right now but can't help it due to SpaceX fomo. TTD - Thesis post earlier, just based on forward revenue numbers, it seems like a great recovery play. NVDA - TPU fears are a bit overblown, just look at backlog. CLS - TPU v7 ecosystem buy GOOGL - They sell TPUs like NVDA, growing robotoaxis market like waymo, gemini succesful. Just firing on all fronts. Reddit - Just a money printer like early day Robinhood. Made some thesis comments about RDDT growing in terms of acquisitions from FCF. Otherwise, they're here to stay and benefits from all gens using it (unlike snap which is earlier) WULF - Similar to CIFR. Rerating might happen depending on more info about the Anthropic buildout. CRWV - Terrible, terrible long. Good short term recovery buy. IREN - I would not put money into this if they kept buying GPUs to do AI cloud just due to dilution. but they might do colo and they have an immense amount of GW capacity so it's still promising. GLXY - Beneficary of DC Buildout. WLAC - Possible that they're SPAC ipoing this month. They did say Q4. MPWR - TPU v7 ecosystem buy Avoid RGTI - Quantum, no fundamentals/revenue to back it up PLTR - 449.01B market cap lol WMT - They're growing like 4% revenue a year, but trading at 40 p/e which is insane. ETH - Ethereum great network. However, there's no token burn and none of the revenue goes to token holders. Terrible investment, great developer tooling/ecosystem. BMNR - Ethereum proxy. TSLA - Kind of detached from fundamentals. But it's a bet on elon musk, robotaxis at scale, robotics. I personally just see this as overpromising, but we'll see. IONQ -Quantum, no fundamentals/revenue to back it up ORCL - Most of forward backlog is dependent on openai, which makes things incredibly uncertain/risky if openai falls to claude/gemini in market share. That being said, it's a good recovery buy right now, but long term it's risky. SLNH - This is the stock to be in if you want diluted to oblivion on their 2.8gw pipeline. OKLO - no fundamentals like quantum to back up mc at this moment, this likely years out to come into fruition.
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日元套利平仓短期利空，中期利好新云板块，建议做多。
短期日元套利交易平仓（日本加息，美联储降息）带来轻微负面影响。中期影响对成长型资产，尤其是涉及债务驱动增长的“新云”板块（如 $CRWV, $IREN, $NBIS）应极具看多意义。基本面未见放缓迹象，因此我认为现在是做多的好时机。
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Short term unwinding from yen carry trade (Japan rate hike, fed cut), which was slightly negative. Medium term impact should be incredibly bullish on growth assets, especially Neocloud sector that involve debt for growth like $CRWV, $IREN, $NBIS. Don't see any fundamentals slowing, so great time to go long imo
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SMCI因订单延迟致短期利空，但长期增长确定且估值极低，强烈建议买入。
@LandoInvests 很乐意就 $SMCI 进行辩论，我在文中阐述了其因 2026 年第二季度前瞻性营收积压（Forward Revenue Backlog）而注定复苏的逻辑。 https://t.co/FJj3yXlhGT （该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）: 将 $SMCI 评级上调至极度强烈买入（EXTREMELY STRONG BUY），目标价约 $33（市值约 190 亿美元）。 • 2026 财年营收预期上调至 360 亿美元以上（较 220 亿美元同比增长 60%+）。 • AI 数据中心（AI Data Center）建设（如 $NBIS、$IREN、$DGXX）使 GPU 服务器需求保持最大化。 这并非 $CRDO 那种营收同比增长 272% 的故事，而是被错估的价值。 原因如下： SMCI 财报后下跌源于两点：对利润率压缩（Margin Compression）的担忧和营收不及预期。 1. 2026 年第一季度的“不及预期”实为订单延迟： • 营收为 50 亿美元，低于此前 60-70 亿美元的指引。 • 然而，这仅仅是 15 亿美元推迟至第二季度，客户在等待英伟达 Blackwell Ultra 配置。且公司甚至将全年指引从 330 亿美元上调至 360 亿美元。 2. 利润率压缩担忧： • 2025 财年净利率：约 5.9%（220 亿美元营收对应 13 亿美元净利润）。 • 当前的利润率压缩是暂时的。随着数字租赁中心（Digital Lending Center, DLC）制造沿学习曲线（Learning Curve）下行，单位成本下降，利润率上升。管理层目标下半年毛利率约 11%，净利率回升至约 5.5%。 若毛利率均值回归至约 11%，净利率在 360-380 亿美元营收基础上回归至 5-6%，你将看到 20 亿美元以上的盈利。 营收：380 亿美元 净利率：5.5%（复苏情景） 隐含净利润：20.9 亿美元 股本：6.8 亿股（稀释后） 股价：约 33.85 美元 市盈率计算：33.85 / 3.07 = 11.0 倍 远期市盈率：约 10-13 倍，对于一家拥有 60%+ 远期增长的公司来说，极其便宜。 $SMCI 不依赖 GPU 使用寿命的会计游戏，无论如何它都出售机架。 此外，$NVDA、$NBIS、$CRDO 及其他 AI 数据中心股票在财报后确认 AI 热潮并未放缓。 $SMCI 是 AI/数据中心热潮的核心，同比增长 60%+，但市场却将其视为类似 $MSTR 的困境资产。 因此我建立多头头寸，因为 $SMCI 看起来是硬件板块中风险调整后最具吸引力的 6 个月（中期）交易，拥有 50-100% 的上行空间。
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@LandoInvests Happy to debate $SMCI, I put my thesis here on why it's bound for a recovery due to forward revenue backlog in Q2 2026. https://t.co/FJj3yXlhGT
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IREN和WULF主要涉及可转债套利而非做空。
@MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye 关于 $IREN 和 $WULF 这类股票，大部分是可转债套利(convertible note arbitrage)而非做空(shorts)。
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@MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye on stuff like $IREN and $WULF majority is convertible note arbitrage not shorts.
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对比NBIS与IREN跌幅，探讨基于个股表现与持仓回撤的优劣之争。
@DannyQuark 你说得对，$NBIS > $IREN，因为 Nebius 仅下跌了 17.5%，而非 41.5%。 但你是否想过反方论点：$IREN > $NBIS，因为 $IREN 的持仓今日仅亏损 4%，而非 6%？
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@DannyQuark You're right, $NBIS > $IREN because Nebius only dropped by -17.5% instead of -41.5%. But have you thought of the counter argument that $IREN > $NBIS because $IREN portfolios faced-4% loss today instead of -6%?
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分析NBIS和IREN财报后大跌原因，认为跌幅过度且受情绪影响。
财报前 $NBIS 股价在 $115-$135 区间。此后因以下利好下跌约 21%-40%：与 $UBER 合作推出 Robotaxi FSD，ARR 预估翻倍，GW 产能指引上调 150%，$META 意外合同，MSCI 纳入带来的资金流入。唯一的利空是 2500 万股稀释。作为投资者我极度反感这一点（更偏好 FCF -> 产能爬坡）。不幸的是，$ORCL 和 $CRWV 的重大债务警告、$CRWV 影响 $APLD 等供应商发行垃圾债及信贷收紧，以及 GPU 折旧论调同时打击了 Neocloud 市场。其中只有信贷收紧是实质性的，不足以解释 $NBIS 的大幅下跌（纯属情绪）。话说回来，他们确实需要改善营销。（例如没人将 Robotaxi 与 $NBIS 关联，主流新闻也不知晓此事）。至于 $IREN，他们出人意料地选择购买 GPU 而非 Colo 服务，鉴于 3GW 产能，投资者可能看到巨大的潜在稀释，因此也下跌了 40%。我相信 $IREN 在营销方面没问题，它拥有像 $ASTS 那样的狂热追随者（这对他们是好事）。
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Pre-earnings $NBIS was sitting around $115-$135. We've dropped over ~21%-40% since then on: Robotaxi FSD launch with $UBER, doubled ARR estimates, increased GW capacity guidance by 150%, surprise $META contract, MSCI inclusion inflow. The only downside: 25m share dilution. Which I extremely dislike as an investor (FCF -> ramp up would be preferred) Unfortunately, TI hit reports on $ORCL, $CRWV major debt flag, $CRWV affecting suppliers from $APLD raising junk bonds + credit tightening, and GPU depreciation arguments all kind of hit the Neocloud market at the same time. Only credit tightening was something material and doesn't warrant that much of a drop for $NBIS (purely sentiment). That being said they need to improve their marketing for sure. (Eg. nobody associates robotaxis with $NBIS at all and even mainstream news don't know about it). As for $IREN, they did a surprising move to buy GPUs instead of colo offerings and given the 3GW capacity investors probably see a huge huge amount of potential dilution, hence the 40% drop too. I'm sure $IREN is fine on the marketing front, it has that cult-like following like $ASTS (which is a good thing going for them).
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NBIS与IREN股价齐跌，反驳IREN更优论。
$NBIS 与 $IREN 之争简而言之： “$IREN 更好，因为——” 两只股票：分别下跌 6.16% 和 4.00%。 市场：🟩 🚀 https://t.co/vAdT3NbkcF
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$NBIS vs. $IREN debates in a nutshell: “ $IREN is better because —“ Both stocks: -6.16% and -4.00%. Markets: 🟩 🚀 https://t.co/vAdT3NbkcF
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澄清折旧应从资产可供使用时开始，而非实际使用时。
另外——“折旧仅在底层资产（GPU）投入使用时才开始计提”——这一说法存在细微差别且倾向于错误。我不确定 $IREN 是否有特殊规定，但一般而言，折旧从资产“可供使用”时开始，而非“实际使用”（暗示100%利用率阈值、客户工作负载或资产真正被使用）。例如，查看 $ORCL 的报告，其已考虑了利用率滞后因素。
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Also - "Depreciation only kicks in once the underlying assets (GPUs) are in use." - this is nuanced and leans false. I'm not sure if this is is different for $IREN in specific, but just in general depreciation starts when the asset is available for use, not in use implying your 100% utilization (thresholds), not for cusotmer worklods, or assets actually being in use. (eg. if we look at $ORCL's report it accounted for utilization lag).
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反驳收入无法覆盖折旧论，指出利用率提升带来经营杠杆效应。
“收入无法在折旧之上实现规模化增长”是错误的，你没有正确陈述单位定价（会下降）与经营杠杆（会规模化）的关系。在“前置投入”阶段，你拥有资产（折旧正在发生），但尚未产生全部收入。随着你为 $MSFT/$META 合同及其他客户启动集群，利用率提高，利润率随之扩张（可变）。因此，“收入无法在折旧之上实现规模化增长”是谬误，因为收入确实能通过利用率在折旧之上实现规模化增长（折旧是固定的，而收入是可变的）。只需看看 $CRWV 约 74% 的现金利润率，它足以覆盖折旧。（忽略 $CRWV 庞大的利息债务，而 $IREN 和 $NBIS 都没有这种债务）。
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"Revenue doesn't scale past depreciation" is wrong, you're not stating unit pricing (which degrades) vs. operating leverage (which scales) correctly. In the "front loading" phase, you have the assets (depreciation is active) but not the full rev yet. As you turn on clsuters for the $MSFT/ $META contract and others, utilization increases and margins expand (variable). So "revenue doesn't scale past depreciation" is false because revenue absolutely scales past depreciation due to utilization. (depreciation is fixed while revenue is variable) Just look at ~74% or so cash margins from $CRWV that cover the depreciation. (ignoring $CRWV's massive interest debt which both $IREN and $NBIS dont have).
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分析NBIS、IREN、CIFR及TE的投资逻辑与风险，并点评用户高波动组合。
从我的角度来看： $NBIS - 拥有最高的非对称上行潜力，因为除了核心的运营数据中心业务外，他们还有4家类似Robotaxi的子公司，同比增长超过100%。这只是一场等待市场定价部分价值（例如$UBER因Avride自动驾驶汽车大涨，但持有Avride的$NBIS却无反应）的游戏。 我非常看好Robotaxi和Avride。我不明白市场为何没看到这个机会（也许我们只是太早了，不过据我上次检查，机构持仓已从38%累积至流通盘的52%以上，所以有些人可能已经意识到了）。 $IREN - 潜在上行空间最大，但风险也是所有标的中最大的。仅为了达成与$MSFT的交易，他们就不得不稀释股权并支付58亿美元以上的硬件费用，且为了加速建设，每兆瓦成本高达200万美元。然而，这仅仅是为了变现一小部分产能，他们选择的是AI云路线，而非像$CIFR那样购买GPU做托管(Colo)。如果$IREN继续提供GPU服务，我会作为投资者极度担忧，因为执行存在不确定性，且变现“3GW管道”需要极其巨大的稀释。也许再等几个月会更好，因为短期投资者受损最重。 $CIFR - 可能是新云(Neocloud)板块中最安全的，因为他们有$AMZN和$GOOGL背书，资产负债表上有大量比特币以应对下一次减半事件，且虽然营收增长较慢，但通过超大规模云厂商合约获得了高毛利的托管(Colo)收入可见性。 $TE - 能源是个不错的博弈方向。 你的投资组合波动性极大哈哈（可能回撤50%），但如果你出身于WSB Reddit、加密货币和期权交易圈，那也没问题。
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Okay so from my perspective $NBIS - Highest asymmetrical upside possible because they have 4 subsidaries like robotaxis growing 100%+ Y/Y alongside their core operational DC business. It's just a waiting game until market prices in parts (eg. $UBER rose a ton from self driving cars with Avride, but $NBIS had no movement but owns Avride). I really really like robotaxis and Avride. I don't know how markets aren't seeing this opportunity (maybe we're just early, institutions accumulated over 52% of the float last i checked though from 38%, so some are probably aware). $IREN - highest possible upside, but biggest risk of them all. Just for their $MSFT deal they had to dilute and pay for $5.8B+ worth of hardware just to do the deal and ended up spending up $2m/mw in costs just for expedited buildout. However, that was just to monetize a small amount of capacity and they're going the AI cloud route instead of colo buying GPUS, unlike $CIFR. I'd be extremely worried as an investor if they kept doing GPU offerings because of execution uncertainty and extreme, extreme amount of dilution to monetize that "3 GW pipeline". Maybe it would be better off waiting another few months because near term investors are harmed the most. $CIFR - probably safest one in the neocloud sector since they are backstopped by $AMZN and $GOOGL, large amounts of bitcoin on balance sheet for next halving event, and are doing slower revenue growth but higher margin colo offerings with revenue visibility from hyperscaler deals $TE - energy is a good play. Your portfolio is incredibly volatile lol (can swing -50%) but it's fine if you're born from the depths of wsb reddit, crypto, and options.
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解析资本支出会计处理及子公司利润对NBIS和IREN估值的影响。
是的，资本支出(Capex)就是这样进行会计处理的，它会产生固定的折旧，但 Nebius 的营收增长幅度超过了折旧带来的拖累。 此外，子公司+三位数的增长直接计入净利润报表，没有运营支出(Opex)的拖累，而人们通常没有在模型中考虑这一点。 基于你关于杠杆的观点，$IREN 与微软(MSFT)的交易通过预付款实现了更高的杠杆化内部收益率(IRR)，而 $NBIS 的前置投入也意味着大部分现金消耗已结束，从而在 Q4 至 2027 年期间产生经营杠杆。
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yeah that's how capex gets accounted for, it creates fixed depreciation but nebius rev scales past depreciation drag. Also subsidiaries + triple digit grwoth drop in pure net income into the statement without opex drag, which people don't model for. going off your own points about leverage works with $IREN doing its msft deal with prepayment for higher levered irr, there's also operating leverage with nbis frontloading was majority of cash burn ending -> operating leverage q4 into 2027.
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SMCI因订单延迟被错杀，估值极低，AI需求强劲，建议中期做多。
@mhayavkay 关于 $SMCI 将 $SMCI 评级上调至“极强买入”，目标价约 $33（市值约 190 亿美元）。 • 2026 财年营收预期上调至 360 亿美元以上（较 220 亿美元同比增长 60%+）。 • AI 数据中心（如 $NBIS、$IREN、$DGXX）的建设使 GPU 服务器需求保持最大化。 这并非 $CRDO 那种营收同比激增 272% 的故事，而是被错估的价值股。 原因如下： SMCI 财报后股价下跌源于两点：对利润率压缩的担忧和营收不及预期。 1. 2026 年 Q1 的“不及预期”实为订单延迟： • 营收为 50 亿美元，低于此前 60-70 亿美元的指引。 • 但这只是 15 亿美元推迟至 Q2，因客户在等待 Nvidia 的 Blackwell Ultra 配置。且公司甚至将全年指引从 330 亿美元上调至 360 亿美元。 2. 利润率压缩担忧： • 2025 财年净利率：约 5.9%（220 亿美元营收对应 13 亿美元净利润）。 • 当前的利润率压缩是暂时的。随着 DLC 制造（数字逻辑芯片制造）沿学习曲线下行，单位成本下降，利润率将回升。管理层目标下半年毛利率约 11%，净利率回升至约 5.5%。 若毛利率均值回归至约 11%，净利率回归至约 5-6%，基于 360-380 亿美元营收，每股收益将超 20 亿美元。 营收：380 亿美元 净利率：5.5%（复苏情景） 隐含净利润：20.9 亿美元 稀释股数：6.8 亿股 股价：约 33.85 美元 市盈率计算：33.85 / 3.07 = 11.0 倍 远期市盈率：约 10-13 倍，对于一家远期增长超 60% 的股票而言，极其便宜。 $SMCI 不依赖 GPU 使用寿命的会计游戏，无论如何它都出售机架。 此外，$NVDA、$NBIS、$CRDO 及其他 AI 数据中心股票在财报后确认 AI 热潮并未放缓。 $SMCI 是 AI/数据中心热潮的核心，同比增长 60%+，但市场却将其视为类似 $MSTR 的困境资产。 因此我建立多头头寸，因为 $SMCI 看起来是硬件板块中风险调整后最具吸引力的 6 个月（中期）交易，潜在上涨空间 50-100%。
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@mhayavkay For $SMCI https://t.co/i9EduOkMGY
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加急费用损害 $IREN 利润，且存在违约风险，并非全为利好。
仅就加急费用这一项而言，考虑到其对 $IREN 利润率的影响百分比，这显然是一个负面因素。如果 $IREN 不支付这笔费用，进而面临 $MSFT 的延迟及合同终止，情况会更糟。这只是客观、不加粉饰的解读方式。若声称所有人都需支付如此高比例的加急费用，那便是谬误。$IREN 有时确实存在利空，并非所有消息都极度看涨。
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On the expedited element alone, it’s a pretty obvious negative given how much % margins it is for $IREN. And it’s even worse if they don’t pay it and face $MSFT delays + contract termination. That’s just the objective/non-sugarcoated way to frame it. It’s false if you say everyone needs to pay that much % in expedited. Sometimes there’s negatives about $IREN, not everything is overwhelmingly bullish.
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解析$IREN因$MSFT合同升级设施成本，批评盲目乐观者。
如果我错了请纠正我，但就我所见，$IREN 的情况是，在与 $MSFT 签约后，其产品计算标准从普通设施变更为超大规模数据中心级设施。 ~300万美元用于超集群的液冷/母线槽/高密度机架。 ~200万美元来自其他规格（如备用发电机翻倍、冷却回路等）。 +200万美元为加急费用（正如前文所述，任何试图证明这是好事的人，都是在强行自我安慰）。 否则，前两项增加似乎是标准的。其他回复中9/10的内容读起来简直伤脑筋。
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Correct me if I’m wrong but from what I’ve seen for $IREN it was a change in product calculations from a standard facility to a hyperscaler-grade one after they signed the $MSFT deal. ~3m for liquid cooling/busways/high density racks for supercluster. ~2m from misc specs such as equipment doubling fbackup generator, cooling loops, etc.) +2m expedited as mentioned ( anyone who tries to justify why this is a good thing, is hard coping ) Otherwise the first two additions seem standard. 9/10th of the other replies just cause IQ damage to read.
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IREN股价因吉姆·克拉默的言论获救。
@cronked 看起来 $IREN 被吉姆·克拉默（Jim Cramer）救了。
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@cronked Looks like $IREN got saved by Jim Cramer
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作者认为WSB散户的杠杆投机行为并非可靠的投资信号。
@dubiousnoob 在$40时我也是这么想的，直到我看了WSB子版块，看到人们正用保证金全仓押注$IREN和$ALAB。WSB的Reddit用户并不是最好的信号lol https://t.co/6lYj2qIvcW
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@dubiousnoob I thought so too at $40 until I looked at the WSB subreddit and saw people margin yoloing into $IREN and $ALAB. WSB Redditors aren't the best signal lol https://t.co/6lYj2qIvcW
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对比NBIS与IREN融资稀释影响，指出DC建设需购GPU导致稀释不可避免。
关于 $NBIS，时机确实是个巨大因素，他们在宣布 $70-$90亿 ARR（年度经常性收入）后进行了操作。此外，MSCI 的资金流入也抵消了大部分稀释，下个月可能还会纳入纳斯达克100指数。 对于 $IREN，我目前的观点是：如果他们想通过拥有 GPU 的 AI 云（AI Cloud）变现其巨大的算力容量，就需要进行大量稀释。这不仅仅是“拥有 3GW 容量 x 一定收入”那么简单，当他们不做托管（Colocation）业务时，还需要购买 GPU。 现有股东/市场可能不喜欢这一点。特别是仅针对 $MSFT 的交易，硬件成本就高达约 $58亿（如果我记得没错的话）。虽然他们获得了预付款，但仍需筹集更多资金。 长期来看这是净正面的，但任何当前持有者都会感到痛苦。 即使是 $NBIS 的融资，我也非常不喜欢稀释，希望他们通过运营利润来融资剩余部分，但这是数据中心（DC）建设的现实。Nebius 起初就有更大的现金储备（坐拥 $48亿+），相比 $IREN 他们受到的冲击稍小一些，但让我们看看会发生什么。
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With $NBIS yeah timing was a huge factor that they did it after announcing $7-$9B ARR. They also had MSCI inflows to offset a lot of the dilution too and maybe nasdaq100 next month. For $IREN my opinion so far is that if they wanted to monetize their immense of capacity in their AI cloud with GPUs, there needs to be a ton of dilution. It's not just oh we have 3GW capacity x amount of revenue, they need to buy the GPUs too when they're not doing colo. Existing shareholders/markets probably don't like that. Especially with spending ~$5.8B in hardware costs (if i remember correctly) for the $MSFT deal alone. They got pre-payment but they still needed to raise more. Long term it's net positive but anyone holding now would feel a lot of pain. Even for $NBIS raise I really disliked dilution and wanted them to finance the rest through operational profit, but that's the reality of the DC buildout. Nebius already had a bigger cash pile to begin with (was sitting on $4.8B+) compared to $IREN, so they're a tad more isolated but we'll see what happens.
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机构因悉尼·斯威尼参演《亢奋》而改买AEO。
@cronked 我的看法是，机构投资者在听说悉尼·斯威尼（Sydney Sweeney）将出演《亢奋》（Euphoria）第三季后，转而买入 $AEO 而非 $IREN。
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@cronked My take is that institutions have been buying $AEO instead of $IREN after hearing about Sydney Sweeney staring in Euphoria s3.
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博主调侃投资明星悉尼·斯威尼优于投资IREN。
也许投资悉尼·斯威尼（Sydney Sweeney）比投资 $IREN 是更正确的选择 https://t.co/ILS59toTm7
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Maybe investing in Sydney Sweeney was the right choice over $IREN https://t.co/ILS59toTm7
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承认对方对IREN的研究，指出与NBIS估值标准化存在分歧。
@Agrippa_Inv @RJCcapital @MarkosAAIG @moninvestor @pepemoonboy @DeepValueBagger @amitisinvesting @Sandeman52 不，说真的，我相信你们为 $IREN 制作了很好的内容，并且更了解那家特定公司。我认为我们在 $NBIS 的指标标准化(normalizing figures)问题上存在分歧。
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@Agrippa_Inv @RJCcapital @MarkosAAIG @moninvestor @pepemoonboy @DeepValueBagger @amitisinvesting @Sandeman52 nope, in all seriousness, I'm sure you produce good content for $IREN and know more for that specific company. i think we just come to a disagreement when it comes to to normalizing figures vs. $NBIS lol
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调侃IREN研报订阅激增，预测更多博主将跟进此趋势。
@Agrippa_Inv 你现在这么说，但等你 $IREN 的 Substack 深度研究(DD)订阅人数再翻三倍后就不这么说了。 @RJCcapital 已经在利用这一趋势获利。 如果 @MarkosAAIG、@moninvestor、@pepemoonboy、@DeepValueBagger、@amitisinvesting、@Sandeman52 等人很快跟进，我也不会感到惊讶。
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@Agrippa_Inv You say that now but not after 3x more people subscribe to your $IREN substack DD. @RJCcapital is already capitalizing on this trend. Wouldn't be surprised if @MarkosAAIG, @moninvestor, @pepemoonboy, @DeepValueBagger, @amitisinvesting , @Sandeman52, & others follow soon
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博主感谢早期评论者，并反思未采纳社区建议导致高位建仓。
@lesantcho9306 是的，你是早期评论 $LITE 的人之一。谢谢！ 这让我想起 @SCurveCapital 一直跟我提 $IREN 在 10 美元左右的时候。我最终在 26 美元左右才买入，而且只是小仓位，哈哈。 确实应该多听听社区的意见。
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@lesantcho9306 Yep you were one of the early commenters about $LITE. Thanks! It remind me of the time @SCurveCapital kept telling me about $IREN at $10 or something.I finally bought in at $26 or something but just small positions lol. Should listen to the community more for sure
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分析NBIS、IREN和CRWV商业模式优劣及新云厂商时间窗口。
好问题。麦肯锡曾就此话题发文（我觉得写得极差，因为他们以 $CRWV 为主要锚点）。 但其中部分观点成立，并对 $IREN 等公司发出警示。他们的观点： - 当前的裸金属租赁商业模式薄弱且脆弱 - 避免过度依赖少数大客户 - 开辟可防御的利基市场（如主权计算、专用工作负载） - 通过收购整合或成为超大规模云服务商 这些确实正确，但未能捕捉到一些细微差别。 关于 $NBIS： - 极度多元化（这构成了利用率的强大护城河，对利润率计算至关重要） - 全栈式（可防御的利基市场） - 通过收购整合（旨在成为超大规模云服务商，拥有4家同步增长的子公司） 这就是我说它具有最高非对称上行潜力的原因。 关于 $IREN： - 当前的裸金属租赁业务目前是护城河。文章指出长期来看它很脆弱，这是正确的。因此 $IREN 正通过与 $MSFT 合作开展 GPU 基础设施即服务(IaaS) 向上攀登全栈阶梯，并可能尝试构建上层软件层（尽管这很难） - 我们将拭目以待，这需要极高的执行力。 关于 $CRWV - 老实说，我不知道他们如何摆脱债务陷阱 - 他们试图用 $NVDA 作为后盾，但这充其量也很脆弱（例如 OpenAI 拥有 1 万亿美元以上的资本支出，试图争取政府 + 科技七巨头提供资金担保） 新云厂商是一场与时间的赛跑，我同意文章的观点（这就是我说高确信度持有2年，而非5年以上的原因）。 他们拥有从科技七巨头(Mag7)弱势中获取收入的绝佳窗口期 -> 将收入转化 -> 建立长期差异化和护城河。 我不知道最终结果如何，但我们将拭目以待。
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Hi great question. So there was an article by Mckinsey on this topic (which I think is terribly written since they use $CRWV as the main anchor). But some points holds true, and gives warnings to $IREN and others. Their claims: - current bare-metal rental business model is weak and fragile - avoids overreliance on a few giant customers - carve defensible niches (sovereign compute, specialized workloads) - consolidate through acquisitions or be a hyperscaler Are definitely correct, but fail to capture some nuances. So for $NBIS: - Extremely diversified (so this is more as a powerful moat for utilization, which is huge for margin calculations) - Full-stack (defensible niche) - consolidate through acquisitions (it's aiming to become a hyperscaler, has 4 subsidiary companies growing alongside it) That's kind of why I've said it has the highest asymmetrical upside of the bunch. For $IREN: - current bare-metal rental business is a moat as of today. The article is correct in stating long term it's fragile. That's why $IREN is moving up the full-stack ladder doing GPU iaas with $MSFT, and will likely try and build software layers on top (though it's hard) - We will see what comes out of this, it's high execution. For $CRWV - idk how they're going to get out of the debt trap tbh - they're using $NVDA to backstop it, but it's shaky at best (eg. openai with $1t+ in capex trying to get gov + mag7 to backstop funding) Neoclouds are a race against time, I agree with the article (which is why I said 2 year high conviction hold, not 5 years + ). They have this brilliant window of opportunity of weakness from mag7 -> funnel revenue down -> build long term differentiation and moats. I don't know what will happen, but we'll see
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AI云股被算法归篮联动，CRWV财务堪忧，NBIS/IREN长期价值或超CRWV。
是的，完全同意。我认为算法/市场目前将 $NBIS、$IREN 归入 $CRWV、$NVDA 的篮子中。因此，任何关于 Coreweave 的负面报道都会对其他公司产生负面影响。我们终于看到 $WULF、$CIFR 等被归入数据中心(colocation)篮子（相对不受 GPU 贬值论点影响），并表现优异。但坦率地说，$CRWV 是一个财务噩梦，只要它被视为新云(neocloud)行业领导者，就会影响其他公司。至于 $NVDA，$GOOGL 的 TPU 论据是我目前看到的针对 $NVDA GPU 云业务最强的看空理由，但这些公司已经从 $META、$MSFT 锁定了 5 年的超大规模云服务商(hyperscaler)合约。我认为市场最终会正确定价，我相信 $NBIS 和 $IREN 有一天会比 $CRWV 更有价值，但其中只有一家拥有自动驾驶 Robotaxi lol。
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Yep absolutely. I think algos/market put $NBIS, $IREN in the $CRWV, $NVDA basket right now. So any negative hit piece about Coreweave does negatively affects the others. We've finally seen $WULF, $CIFR and others get put into the colo basket (which are relatively unaffected to GPU depreciation arguments), and outperform. But $CRWV is a financial nightmare to put it bluntly, so it does affect the others as long as it's treated as the neocloud sector leader. As for $NVDA, TPU arguments from $GOOGL is the strongest bear case I've seen to date though on $NVDA GPU clouds, but these companies already have have 5 year hyperscaler deals locked in from $META, $MSFT. imo markets will price things in correctly in due time, I do think both $NBIS and $IREN will be worth more than $CRWV one day. but only one of those has self-driving robotaxis lol
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IREN单季签约容量大增，展现强大执行力与护城河优势。
哦，看来 @babyfolio 已经替我回答了！ 从 1 GW 到 2.5 GW 的指导性签约容量（Guided Contracted Capacity），仅一个季度就实现这样的增长已经非常惊人。稍微调整一下大家的预期，GW 级容量是一道护城河（Moat），而 $IREN 在这道护城河上坚守了最长时间。 因此，能在短短一个季度内实现与 $IREN 的中长期对等，这表现堪称惊艳。 话虽如此，正如 babyfolio 所说，我认为 2.5 GW 这一数据已经大大超出了我的预期哈哈，但如果他们能在一个季度内实现 250%+ 的增长，他们可能再次做到。所以在这些情况下，你只需信任管理层的执行力（Management Execution）。
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oh looks like @babyfolio answered that for me! Going from 1 GW to 2.5 GW guided contracted capacity is already amazing from just 1 quarter. Just to tamper your expectations a bit, GW capacity is a moat and one that $IREN held for the longest time. So to achieve medium-long term parity with $IREN in just 1 quarter is spectacular. That being said, I think the 2.5 GW already kinda blew away my expections like babyfolio said haha, but if they're able to increase 250%+ in 1 quarter, they could do it again. So in these cases, you just trust in management execution.
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NBIS产能指引大增追平IREN，长期竞争力趋同
事实上，截至第三季度财报，$NBIS 将其签约产能指引提高了2.5倍，并在长期层面几乎追平了 $IREN。然而，$IREN 在前置并网产能（现在至2026年上半年）方面拥有巨大价值。但从2026年下半年起，$NBIS 在这方面似乎已迎头赶上（截至Q3，签约电力指引从3 GW调整为2.5 GW）。
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So actually as of Q3 earnings, $NBIS 2.5x'd its contracted capacity guidance and achieved near long-term parity with $IREN. However, $IREN has a tremendous amount of value in front loaded grid-connected capacity (now -> H1 2026). But H2 2026 onwards, $NBIS looks like it caught up in that front (3 GW to 2.5 GW contracted power guided as of Q3)
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重申看好IREN及新云板块，特别看好其高增长副业。
@babyfolio 自从我发布最初的论点帖子以来，我一直看好 $IREN 以及新云(neocloud)板块！ 我只是恰好对那家作为副业(side quest)拥有4家投资组合公司且同比增长100%+的企业极度看好。
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@babyfolio I've always been bullish on $IREN and the neocloud sector since my original thesis post! I just happen to be mega bullish on the one that has 4 portfolio companies growing 100%+ Y/Y alongside it as a side quest.
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对比NBIS与IREN的微软交易，指出NBIS收入溢价及IREN利润率被高估。
是的！关于收入溢价的观点确实很有帮助。但我认为细微差别体现在 $MSFT 的交易中（这显示了 $NBIS 和 $IREN 每兆瓦的利润率差异）。 Nebius 的微软交易使其每兆瓦年的收入比 IREN 的微软交易高出约 19-20%。许多毛利率数据因资产负债表会计处理而被夸大，因此我发此帖以标准化利润率。 $IREN 的实际杠杆内部收益率可能更接近 20%，鉴于其与戴尔的数十亿美元支出，使用这一指标可能优于 85% 的项目息税折旧摊销前利润（EBITDA）数据。 $MSFT 基于合理推测（结合靠近 Azure 服务器的地理位置和软件优势）更看重 $NBIS 的完整人工智能云平台。如果 $IREN 在顶层软件和基础设施即服务（IaaS）层面补齐短板，其未来利润率和合同有望缩小这一差距。
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Yep! Definitely some helpful points about the revenue premium. But I think the nuance did show up in the $MSFT deal (which shows the margin difference between $NBIS and $IREN per MW). Nebius’s MSFT deal gives it ~19–20% higher revenue per MW-year than IREN’s MSFT deal. A lot of the gross margin figures are inflated by balance sheet accounting, hence why I made this post to normalize margins. $IREN 's realized levered irr is probably closer to 20%, it's probably better to use that over the 85% project EBITDA figures since they're spending billions with Dell. $MSFT values $NBIS full AI cloud platform more from an educated guess (mix of location closer to azure servers and software). If $IREN closed the software on top level and iaas level, its future margins/contracts could close that gap.
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英伟达虽面临谷歌TPU等定制芯片竞争，但中期统治力稳固，逢低买入。
英伟达($NVDA)公布的2026财年Q3营收为570.1亿美元(+62.5% YoY)，表现强劲。并指引Q4营收超650亿美元(超预期30亿美元+)，以及通过CY 2026年Blackwell/Rubin系列营收超5000亿美元。尽管如此，股价仍下跌12%。现在$NVDA是强力买入吗？答案如下： $GOOGL的TPU项目成为首个对$NVDA GPU构成竞争替代的方案，Anthropic承诺采购超100万颗TPU芯片，Meta据报道正在就数十亿美元的TPU采购进行高级别谈判。沃伦·巴菲特近期也向$GOOGL投资超40亿美元，鉴于伯克希尔对科技股保守的投资立场，这极为罕见。 尽管创下盈利新高，英伟达股价在过去10个交易日中有6天下跌，较10月29日触及5.03万亿美元市值时的历史高点$207.04下跌约12-15%。 分析师反应普遍看多，普遍上调目标价： - Evercore ISI从$261上调至$352 - 美银从$235上调至$275 - 花旗从$220上调至$270 - 高盛从$240上调至$250 - 摩根士丹利从$220上调至$235 但这里有个价值万亿美元的问题：超大规模客户日益增长的定制硅片威胁是否会削弱英伟达在AI领域的统治地位？ 与主要捕捉英伟达GPU缺货时的溢出需求的$AMD不同，谷歌的TPU项目代表了根本不同的竞争动态。 TPU v7 Ironwood是首款在性能上与Blackwell持平的非英伟达加速器，提供4.6 petaflops的FP8性能（对比B200的4.5 petaflops），配备192GB HBM3e内存。 Ironwood的架构差异化显著。虽然英伟达最大的集群配置为72个GPU(NVL72)，TPU Ironwood可扩展至9,216个芯片组。 客户斩获显著且不断增长： - Anthropic承诺采购超100万颗TPU芯片，价值“数百亿美元”，1GW算力即将上线。 - Meta正在就2026年从谷歌云租赁TPU容量进行高级别谈判，并计划2027年直接采购硬件用于自有数据中心。 - 苹果透露Apple Intelligence基础模型完全在TPU上训练，使用8,192颗TPUv4芯片用于服务器模型。 - Midjourney从GPU转向TPU，推理成本降低65%（从每月200万美元降至70万美元）。 定位微妙。TPU在超大规模推理方面表现出色，在生产级大规模服务中成本性能最高提升4倍（目前）。在训练方面，英伟达优势明显。 对于高度优化的推理任务，TPU架构可能比$NVDA的通用GPU更高效。 然而，我预计下一代英伟达GPU将在许多场景下在推理性能上超越TPU。（类似于LLM之间GPT 5 -> Gemini 3 -> Opus 4.5的迭代超越） 我们看到： 谷歌TPU、AWS Trainium、Meta MTIA、微软Maia和定制超大规模芯片都在扩展，但仍依赖$NVDA。但超大规模客户集体减少对英伟达的依赖，其累积效应是否会削弱英伟达的统治地位？ 答案：不会。至少未来两年统治地位稳固。之后如何纯属猜测。 仅看数据：Q3结果证实公司仍是AI不可或缺的基础设施提供商，5000亿美元的订单积压为2026年提供了极高的可见性。 但市场似乎正在定价3年+后的这种微妙现实：长期面临超大规模客户定制芯片的竞争不确定性。 英伟达产能完全售罄，且很可能在下一代芯片中超越TPU性能（推理性能更高且保持通用性）。但定制硅片威胁和44倍市盈率的估值担忧仍是逆风。 无论如何，鉴于出色的超预期财报和未来两年的订单积压，$NVDA目前因恐惧而下跌，似乎是中期强力逢低买入的机会。 你只需要记住这一点： 只要英伟达仍是AI工作负载的行业首选，且TPU和AMD GPU仅在需求超过英伟达供应时填补空白，它就是强力买入标的。 英伟达订单积压已满，AI需求并未放缓。
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Nvidia ( $NVDA ) reported a blowout Q3 FY2026 revenue of $57.01 billion (+62.5% YoY). And guided $65B+ Q4 ($3B+ beat), and $500B+ USD in Blackwell/Rubin rev through CY 2026. Despite that, the stock dropped 12%. Is $NVDA a strong buy now? Here's the answer: $GOOGL TPU's program emerged as the first competitive alternative to $NVDA GPUs, with Anthropic committing to over 1 million TPU chips and Meta reportedly in advanced negotiations for billions in TPU purchases. Warren Buffet also recently invested $4B+ into $GOOGL, which is extraordinarily rare given Berkshire's conservative stance to tech investments. Despite a record earnings beat, Nvidia's stock has declined in six of the last ten trading sessions and sits roughly 12-15% below its October 29 all-time high of $207.04, when it briefly touched a $5.03 trillion market cap. Analyst reaction was overwhelmingly bullish, with price targets raised across the board: - Evercore ISI raised to $352 from $261 - Bank of America raised to $275 from $235 - Citigroup raised to $270 from $220 - Goldman Sachs raised to $250 from $240 - Morgan Stanley raised to $235 from $220 But here's the trillion dollar question: will the emerging custom silicon threat from hyperscalers reduce NVIDIA dominance in AI? Unlike $AMD, which primarily captures overflow demand when NVIDIA GPUs are unavailable, Google's TPU program represents a fundamentally different competitive dynamic. TPU v7 Ironwood is the first non-NVIDIA accelerator that achieves performance parity with Blackwell, delivering 4.6 petaflops of FP8 performance (versus B200's 4.5 petaflops) with 192GB HBM3e memory. Ironwood's architectural differentiation is substantial. While NVIDIA's largest cluster configuration is 72 GPUs (NVL72), TPU Ironwood scleaes to 9,216 chip pods. The customer wins are significant and growing: - Anthropic committed to over 1 million TPU chips worth "tens of billions of dollars," with 1 gw of compute capacity coming online. - Meta is in advanced negotiations to rent TPU capacity from Google Cloud in 2026, with direct hardware purchases for its own data centers planned for 2027. - Apple revealed that Apple Intelligence foundation models were trained entirely on TPUs using 8,192 TPUv4 chips for server models - Midjourney switched from GPUs to TPUs and reduced inference costs by 65% (from $2M to $700K monthly) The positioning is nuanced. TPUs excel at hyperscale inference with up to 4x better cost-performance for production serving at scale (for now). For training, NVIDIA is the clear advantage. For highly optimized inference tasks, TPU architecture might remain more efficient than $NVDA's general-purpose GPU. However, I'm expecting next-gen Nvidia GPUs to leapfrog TPUs for inference in many scenarios. (similar to how LLMs leapfrog each other GPT 5 -> Gemini 3 -> Opus 4.5) We're seeing: Google TPU, AWS Trainium, Meta MTIA, Microsoft Maia, and custom hyperscaler chips scale up to reliance on $NVDA. But will the cumulative effect on hyperscalers collectively reducing Nvidia's dominance? The answer: No. Not yet. Dominance is secured at least for the next two years. What happens after is only speculation. Just looking at the numbers: Q3 results confirm the company remains the essential infrastructure provider for AI, with a $500 billion order backlog providing exceptional visibility through 2026. But the market appears to be pricing in this nuanced reality 3 years+ from now: long-term competitive uncertainty with custom hyperscaler chips. Nvidia is completely sold out of capacity, and are likely to leapfrog TPU performance in their next generation chips (higher performance for inference while being general purpose). But the custom silicon threat and valuation concerns at 44x earnings remains a headwind. Regardless, $NVDA seems to be a strong mid term dip-buy now on fears, given the exceptional blowout earnings and backlog for the next 2 years. This is the only thing you need to remember: NVIDIA is a strong buy as long as it remains the industry’s first choice for AI workloads, with TPUs and AMD GPUs filling gaps when demand exceeds NVIDIA’s supply. Nvidia is maxed out on backlog, and AI demand is not slowing down.
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博主讽刺NBIS靠卖周边胜过IREN和CIFR
@babyfolio 我不同意，$NBIS 显然是赢家，相比 $IREN 和 $CIFR，Nebius 的帽子周边商品将带来多少额外收入。
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@babyfolio disagree, $NBIS is clearly the winner compared to $IREN and $CIFR due to how much added revenue the Nebius hat merch will bring in
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Nebius核心业务高增，其L4级Robotaxi子公司Avride被市场低估。
Nebius [ $NBIS ] 的核心业务简直疯狂。年收入(ARR)在一年内实现700%以上的同比增长，达到70-90亿美元以上。 更疯狂的是这一点。 其子公司可以超越主营业务 🤯 原因如下： $GOOGL Waymo、$TSLA、$AMZN Zoox、Motional、$NBIS Avride 是目前仅有的5家美国完全自动驾驶(FSD) Robotaxi 公司。 是的，$NBIS Avride 是其中之一。 - 它是4家拥有L4级完全自动驾驶（与Waymo同级）的公司之一。 - 它是3家实现L4级FSD商业化的公司之一（Motional仍处于研发阶段）。 作为参考，Tesla [ $TSLA ] 的Robotaxi目前仅为L2级（需要人工监督）。 人们希望购买Robotaxi公司，因为Cathie Wood所说：“Robotaxi可能占 $TSLA 价值的90%）。 因此，他们通过 $3.6T 的 $GOOGL 和 $1.4T 的 $TSLA 等万亿美元公司来买入该板块的敞口。 但有一家L4级FSD Robotaxi公司即将通过 $UBER 与Waymo竞争： 那就是Avride，一家估值60亿美元的子公司，$NBIS 持有其83%的股份，而市场完全忽略了它。Avride 是 该60亿美元估值基于Seeking Alpha分析师报告（2025年8月），将Avride与Nuro的E轮融资估值进行对标。仅在2025年1月，其估值估计为34亿美元，短短6个月内几乎翻倍（反映了Avride与Uber和现代合作的势头）。 支持当前估值的关键近期进展： - 2017年：Avride由Yandex自动驾驶集团创立 - 2017-2024年：研发... - 2024年10月：与Uber达成多年期配送机器人和Robotaxi合作伙伴关系 - 2025年3月：与现代签署L4级自动驾驶汽车联合开发谅解备忘录(MOU) - 2025年10月：获得Uber和Nebius高达3.75亿美元的战略投资 - 2025年底：在德克萨斯州达拉斯通过Uber推出Robotaxi 我们现在看到7年的研发开始商业化爬坡（像Waymo一样），今年通过 $UBER 实现。 你可以以 $NBIS 210亿美元市值的零头价格，获得这家超高速增长的L4级FSD Robotaxi公司。🚗 鉴于Avride同比增长三位数，且我们看到该公司在7年的资本支出投入研发后终于开始商业化，它在2年内估值远超Nebius当前市值的可能性非零。 我们曾看到Waymo从450亿美元市值（2024年10月，融资56亿美元）增长到2000亿美元以上（DA Davison建议的估值）。 Avride目前仅为60亿美元，是 $NBIS 市值的一小部分。但它正处于与 $UBER 合作的增长临界点，就像Waymo最初在旧金山起步但现在无处不在一样。 Nebius ( $NBIS ) 是市场中被误解的成长型公司。但作为投资者，尽早布局下一代公司才能获得最高回报
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Nebius [ $NBIS ] core business is insanity. 700%+ Y/Y growth to $7-9B+ ARR in 1Y. What's more insane is this. Their subsidiary can outgrow their main business 🤯 Here's why: $GOOGL Waymo, $TSLA, $AMZN Zoox, Motional, $NBIS Avride are the only 5 FSD US Robotaxi companies right now. Yes $NBIS Avride is one of the 5. - And 1 of 4 with FSD Level 4 - fully driverless, the same level as Waymo. - And 1 of 3 that are commercialized with FSD level 4 (Motional is R&D phase) Tesla [ $TSLA ] robotaxis for perspective is only at Level 2 (requires human oversight). People want to buy robotaxi companies because as Cathie Wood puts it “Robotaxis could represent 90% of $TSLA ‘s value). So they buy exposure to the segment through trillion dollar companies like Waymo through the $3.6T $GOOGL and $1.4T $TSLA. But there's a Level 4 FSD robotaxi company that is just about to compete with Waymo through $UBER: That name is Avride, a $6 billion subsidiary company that $NBIS owns 83% of, and one that the market completely has missed. Avride is an The $6B valuation was based off a Seeking Alpha analyst report (August 2025) that benchmarked Avride against Nuro's Series E valuation. Just in Jan 2025 it was estimated to be valued at $3.4 billion, growing almost double in just 6 months time (reflecting Avride's momentum with Uber and Hyundai). Key recent developments supporting the current valuation: - 2017: Avride founded though Yandex Self Driving Group - 2017-2024: Development... - October 2024: Multi-year Uber partnership for delivery robots and robotaxis - March 2025: Hyundai MOU for co-development of Level 4 autonomous vehicles - October 2025: Up to $375 million in strategic investment from Uber and Nebius - By EOY 2025: Dallas Texas Robotaxi Launch with Uber We’re now seeing 7 years of R&D starting commercialization ramp (like Waymo), through $UBER this year. and you can get this hyper scaling self-driving FSD level 4 robotaxi company. As discounted spare change of $NBIS at a $21B marketcap. 🚗 Seeing how Avride is growing triple digits Y/Y and we’re seeing the company finally commercialize after 7 years of capex into research, there’s a nonzero chance it becomes valued way more than the Nebius current market cap in 2 years. We've seen Waymo grow from a $45B marketcap (October 2024, $5.6B raised) to over $200B+ (DA Davison suggested valuation). Avride is now only at $6B and a small change of $NBIS's marketcap. But it's at the precipice of growth with $UBER, just like how Waymo started out in SF but now it's everywhere. Nebius ( $NBIS ) is the misunderstood growth company in the market. But being early to the next generation companies is where the highest returns are made as an investor
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梳理新云领域中小玩家定位，类比AI版AWS。
@AustranSkolSwft $WULF 作为像 $CIFR 一样的数据中心托管(Colo)服务商，属于新云(Neocloud)领域。$IREN 凭借带有 GPU 的全栈 IAAS 服务也归入此类。 但唯一的全服务纯新云玩家是 $CRWV 和 $NBIS。 不过它们都属于那个新类别：充当 AI 版 AWS 的小型参与者。
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@AustranSkolSwft $WULF is in the neocloud sector as a colo player like $CIFR. $IREN falls there too under full-stack IAAS with GPUs. Only full-service pure Neocloud would be $CRWV and $NBIS. But they're all under that new category of small players acting as AWS for AI.
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警惕OpenAI泡沫，看好Mag7资本支出受益的AI基础设施股。
我对“AI泡沫”的主要担忧是OpenAI及其1万亿美元资本支出(capex)的承诺。这显然是一个泡沫（以及大语言模型LLM的私人估值）。其他大多数方面则不然。 任何直接依赖他们的公司，如$ORCL、$CRWV，鉴于AI模型在技术上已超越GPT，可能会陷入困境。所以简单的做法就是远离它们！ 就我个人而言，ChatGPT 5.1的表现糟糕透顶，我实际上取消了订阅，转而使用Gemini/Claude。Claude Opus 4.5在编码任务上优于Codex。Gemini在图像生成上优于ChatGPT。此类例子不胜枚举。 无论如何，AI将长期存在，任何与Mag7相关的（$GOOGL -> $CIFR, $WULF），（$MSFT -> $IREN, $NBIS），以及连接性如$ALAB (AWS), $CRDO (mag7)都极具前景，因为它们是Mag7自由现金流(fcf)增加资本支出的直接受益者。
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The main fear I have in the "AI Bubble" is OpenAI and their $1T capex promises. That is a clear bubble (and private valuations of LLMs). Most other things, no. Any company directly reliant to them $ORCL, $CRWV might be in trouble given how AI models leapfrogged GPT. So the simple thing to do is stay away! Personally speaking, ChatGPT5.1 is horrendous and I actually cancelled my subscription to go with Gemini/Claude. Claude Opus 4.5 outperforms Codex in coding tasks. Gemini outperforms ChatGPT in image generation. Can go on and on. Regardless, AI is here to stay, and anything Mag7 related ( $GOOGL -> $CIFR, $WULF ), ( $MSFT -> $IREN, $NBIS), connectivity like $ALAB (AWS), $CRDO (mag7) is extremely promising since they're the direct beneficiaries of increasing capex from mag7 fcf
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列举AI领域资本支出加速增长的10大证据，强调AI赛道持续高景气度与投资机遇
对于AI领域的任何人来说，很难不看好。 资本支出正在加速增长，而且是以指数级的速度。 直接流向以下几个方面： 新云服务商：$CIFR、$NBIS、$WULF、$IREN， 连接性：$ALAB、$CRDO、$CLS， 能源：$VST、$FLNC、$TE、$EOS， 半导体/晶圆厂：$NVDA、$AMD、$GOOGL、$TSM， 存储：$SNDK、$MU和$STX。 仅在过去几周，我们就看到： 1. AI曼哈顿计划——美国政府正给予顶级模型访问专有实验室数据的权限以加速研究。 2. $GOOGL在德克萨斯州投资400亿美元建设数据中心。 3. Anthropic投资500亿美元建设边缘计算基础设施以支持其Opus 4.5+模型。 4. $TSM公布创纪录的远期收入数据（AI支出）。 5. $NVDA确认创纪录的远期收入数据（AI支出，锁定2年产量）。 6. $META将2025年数据中心/AI资本支出提升至400-450亿美元，用于llama5-6。 7. 今年三次降息以加速增长并降低融资成本。 8. Dominion Energy警告AI数据中心带来大规模电力负荷激增。 9. $AVGO表示AI网络订单达到前所未有的规模。 10. 阿联酋和主权国家推进AI发展。 我们没有看到任何放缓。只有创纪录的增长。 事实上，随着Claude Opus 4.5、Gemini 3的最新模型进展，以及美国政府的新承诺，感觉我们才刚刚看到人工智能新前沿的冰山一角。 （该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）: Nebius [$NBIS]是当前被低估最多的成长型公司。 它有潜力以210亿美元的市值成为下一个$GOOGL。原因很简单： 它的投资组合公司令人惊叹。 这个概念最令人难以置信的例子是$FTX公司。以下是故事： 当我们观察$META如何增长成为万亿美元公司时，不仅仅是Facebook。他们的投资组合公司Instagram、Whatsapp和其他应用使Meta主导了社交媒体领域。 $FTX在数字资产和前沿技术领域做着类似的事情。 四年前，即2021年，$FTX向一个大资产篮子投资了58亿美元。其中很大一部分投入了这三家核心公司： 1. Anthropic，持股13.56%，估值25亿美元。 2. Robinhood [$HOOD]，持股7.6%，估值85.4亿美元。 3. Solana [$SOL]，4100万+代币。 快进到今天，那将是： · Anthropic最新一轮估值3500亿美元。那部分股份价值约474亿美元。 · Robinhood现在市值超过1000亿美元。那部分股份价值约76亿美元。 · Solana现在每个代币价值131.5美元，使那部分股份远超57亿美元。 仅这三家公司就在4年内产生了超过550亿美元的价值，这甚至还不包括FTX的数百亿美元加上其他数十项投资，以及Chime、Layerzero、Aptos、Hidden Road（被$COIN收购）和加密货币的持股。 他们的投资组合公司比他们的核心业务更持久（想象一下，如果核心业务像$GOOGL搜索和YouTube一样持续增长，那将价值多少）。 $NBIS现在有着与$FTX在加密领域、$META在社交媒体领域相同的布局，但在人工智能领域拥有合法且飞速增长的核心业务。 Nebius拥有： 1. Clickhouse，28%持股，估值约70亿美元（2025年上半年为63亿美元）。 2. Avride，83%持股，估值约60亿美元（优步融资后）。 3. Toloka AI，约65%持股，估值约6.4亿美元。 4. TripleTen，100%持股，估值约3亿美元。 · Clickhouse为Anthropic、$META、$TSLA、$NET和许多财富500强公司提供支持。 · Avride是一家自动驾驶出租车机器人公司，从Yandex分拆出来，$UBER在3.75亿美元融资轮中投资以与Waymo竞争。 · Toloka是一个AI标注平台，亚马逊、微软、Anthropic和Shopify都在使用。 19.6亿美元+49.6亿美元+4.16亿美元+3亿美元=76亿美元的投资组合公司估值，这些公司的增长速度超过大多数公开成长型公司。 但如果我们看看他们以每年700%+的速度增长至70-90亿美元ARR的核心业务，拥有48亿美元现金，为$META、$MSFT、Cursor、政府和更多客户提供支持…… 这可能是它以低于90美元的最后一个月，因为今天MSCI纳入将为其带来从数亿美元到低数十亿美元的额外资金流入。如果我们看看$IREN或$CIFR等热门选择，没有任何其他数据中心成长型公司有这种类型的投资组合。 $NBIS估值仅210亿美元，市场正在忽视这个机会。
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It’s hard for anyone in the AI space not to be bullish. Capex is ramping up. Exponentially. And flowing directly down to: Neoclouds: $CIFR, $NBIS, $WULF, $IREN, Connectivity: $ALAB, $CRDO, $CLS. Energy: $VST, $FLNC, $TE, $EOSe Semi/foundries: $NVDA, $AMD, $GOOGL, $TSM Memory: $SNDK, $MU, and $STX In the past few weeks alone, we got: 1. Manhattan Project for AI - US government is giving top models access to propriety labs data for accelerating research 2. $GOOGL spending $40 on DC buildout in Texas 3. Anthropic spending $50 on EC buildout to support their Opus 4.5+ models 4. $TSM confining record forward revenue numbers (AI spend) 5. $NVDA confirming record forward revenue numbers (AI spend, 2Y production locked in) 6. $META upping 2025 DC/AI capex spend to $40-$45B for llama5-6 7. 3x rate cut this year to accelerate growth and make funding cheaper. 8. Dominion Energy warning of massive AI power load surge from AI datacenters 9. $AVGO signaling AI networking orders at unprecedented scale 10. UAE and sovereign countries pushing into AI We’re not seeing any slowdown. Only record growth. In fact, with the recent model developments from Claude Opus 4.5, Gemini 3, and now new commitment from the US government, it feels like we're just seeing the tip of the new frontier for Artificial Intelligence.
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分析$NBIS自建数据中心、GPU贬值、融资稀释及过度建设四大风险。
关于风险的好问题，我也喜欢讨论下行风险。 1. 超大规模云厂商(Hyperscalers)在5年内完全自建数据中心，包括GPU（$GOOGL的TPU，$AWS的Tranium）、能源和选址。 这类似于高通(Qualcomm)与苹果的关系。苹果使用$QLCM，然后建立垂直整合——一旦完成就抛弃客户。因此在此期间建立公司自身护城河很重要（$NBIS在此期间通过Cursor、Shopify等企业客户进行全栈建设并扩展子公司。完全依赖一两个超大规模云厂商合同的公司表现不佳）。 2. $NBIS、$IREN、$CRWV和$ORCL的GPU贬值风险。 任何进行全栈服务的提供商都有更高的利润率、更高的收入和更快的爬坡速度。但这涉及在GPU上花费数十亿美元，而这些GPU在未来4年内价值大幅缩水。 我一直认为GPU多年后仍有价值，例如TPU仍在使用7-8年，2020年的$NVDA GPU仍高价转售并用于不同层级的推理（低优先级），并与新模型并行运行。 3. 信贷收紧+稀释 建设支出过多->需要更多稀释以建设和购买GPU。我们已经看到$4B可转债+$2.5B ATM发行。$NBIS应该足够，但始终存在利润率低于预期的风险（如$ORCL建设），然后公司需要更多稀释。在更难融资的市场中（如$APLD垃圾债），可能会遇到$CRWV的问题，被迫以糟糕的利率融资，侵蚀利润率。 4. 过度建设 如果LLM软件有突破，例如Claude Opus 4.5使用DeepSeek类型的轻量级推理，那么GPU利用率降低，我们会看到数据中心、$NVDA、$AMD等随AI浪潮下跌。 这些可能是$NBIS的四个主要风险。每家公司不同，对于$IREN我会指出其IaaS层的软件编排以优化利润率，但$NBIS已经掌握这一点。
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Good question about risk, I enjoy talking about the downsides too. 1. Hyperscalers completely their own datacenter buildout with GPUs (TPUs with $GOOGL, Tranium with $AWS), energy, locations in 5+ years. This is the analogy of Qualcomm with Apple. Apple just uses $QLCM, then builds it's own vertical integration -> once it's done it sacks the customer. Hence why it's important to build up a company's own moat during the time ( $NBIS is doing full-stack with its own enterprise clients like cursor, shopify, etc during this time and scaling subsidiaries. Companies fully dependent on one or two hyperscaler contracts don't do well). 2. GPU deprecation for $NBIS, $IREN, $CRWV, and $ORCL. Any provider doing full stack has higher margins, higher revenue, higher ramp. But that comes into spending billions on GPUs and the GPUs not too much value over the course of the next 4 years. I've always maintained GPUs are still valuable many years later, eg. TPUs still are used 7-8 years later, 2020 $NVDA GPUs are still resold high and are used different stacks of inference (lower prio) but run alongside newer models. 3. Credit tightening + dilution Too much spend on buildout -> needs to dilute more to build + buy GPUs. We've already seen that with the $4B convertible + $2.5B ATM offering. $NBIS should have enough, but there's always the risk margins are lower than expected eg. $ORCL buildout, then the company needs to dilute more. In a market where it's harder to raise eg. $APLD junk bonds, it might run into the $CRWV problem where they are forced to raise money with terrible interest rates cutting into the margins. 4. Overbuildout If there's a breakthrough in LLM software, for example, Claude Opus 4.5 using deepseek type lightweight inference, then less utilization of GPUs then we see data centers, $NVDA, $AMD, and others go down with the AI ship. Those are probably the four main risks for $NBIS. This is different for each company, for $IREN I would point to software orchestration for their iaas layer for margin optimization but for $NBIS they have that down.
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分析超大规模云厂商数据中心模式差异及潜在合作逻辑
我不会像某些特定的 $BMNR 或 $IREN 投资者那样盲目吹捧，认为街上的绿灯就意味着对公司利好。所以我倾向于认为这只是巧合。因为看起来 $AMZN、$GOOGL 倾向于偏好数据中心托管(Colo)模式（因为他们可以插入自己的 TPU、未来的 Trainium 芯片），而 $MSFT、$META（以及 99.9% 使用 $NVDA 且没有现成定制芯片的 AI 公司）则偏好 $NBIS、$IREN 类型的模式。所以 $AMZN 宣布在印第安纳州为其 AWS 数据中心部门投资 150 亿美元。但关键要注意的是，他们此前在那里已经花费了 313 亿美元，所以这并不算全新投入。你可能看到了 $NBIS 正在印第安纳波利斯附近建设 1000 多英亩的绿地数据中心。这只是一个有利于建设的区域，可能并非针对合作伙伴关系或像 Anthropic（最近承诺 400 亿美元资本支出）那样的另一笔超大规模云厂商交易。说实话，我现在可能更相信 Anthropic 的资本支出承诺而不是 OpenAI。话虽如此，也许如果 $AMZN 耗尽容量并达到与 $NVDA 的最大采购订单上限（因为他们正在插入自己的 $CIFR 芯片），他们可能会转而使用 Nebius。
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I'm not going to be a blind shill like some specific $BMNR or $IREN investors that can say a green light on the street means bullish for the company. So I would lean coincidental. Since it looks like $AMZN, $GOOGL tends to favor colo models (since they can plug in their own TPUs, Trainium chips in the future) while $MSFT, $META (and 99.9% of AI companies that use $NVDA and don't have custom chips readily built out) prefer $NBIS, $IREN type models. So $AMZN announced they're investing $15B in Indiana for their AWS DC segment. But key thing to note is they've already spent $31.3B there before so it's not exactly new. You probably saw how $NBIS is doing a 1000+ acre greenfield DC near Indianapolis. It's just a favorable area for buildout, probably not directed at a partnership and another hyperscaler deal like Antrhopic (who committed $40B in capex spend recently). I'd probably trust Antrophic more than OpenAI right now with capex spend lol. That being said, maybe if $AMZN runs out of capacity and hits max purchase order with $NVDA (since they're plugging in their own chips with $CIFR), they would use Nebius instead.
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Nebius因AI投资组合及核心业务高增长被严重低估，有望成下一个GOOGL。
Nebius [ $NBIS ] 是目前被低估程度最高的成长型公司。它有望成为下一个市值达 210 亿美元的 $GOOGL。原因很简单：其投资组合公司令人惊叹。最极端的例子是 $FTX。回顾 $META 如何成长为万亿级巨头，不仅靠 Facebook，更靠 Instagram、Whatsapp 等投资组合公司主导了社交媒体格局。$FTX 在数字资产和前沿技术领域做了类似布局。2021 年，$FTX 投入 58 亿美元，重仓三家核心公司：1. Anthropic（13.56%，估值 25 亿）；2. Robinhood [ $HOOD ]（7.6%，估值 85.4 亿）；3. Solana [ $SOL ]（4100 万+代币）。如今，Anthropic 最新估值 3500 亿，该持股价值约 474 亿；Robinhood 市值超 1000 亿，持股价值约 76 亿；Solana 代币 131.5 美元，持股价值超 57 亿。仅这三家公司四年增值超 550 亿，还不包括 FTX 其他数十亿投资及 Chime、Layerzero、Aptos、Hidden Road（被 $COIN 收购）等。其投资组合价值超越了核心业务（试想若核心业务如 $GOOGL 搜索般增长该多好）。$NBIS 现在拥有与 $FTX（加密）、$META（社交）相同的结构，但在人工智能领域，且核心业务真实且快速增长。Nebius 持有：1. Clickhouse（28%，估值约 70 亿，2025H1 营收 6.3 亿）；2. Avride（83%，估值约 60 亿，Uber 领投后）；3. Toloka AI（~65%，估值约 6.4 亿）；4. TripleTen（100%，估值约 3 亿）。Clickhouse 服务于 Anthropic、$META、$TSLA、$NET 等；Avride 是自动驾驶出租车公司，$UBER 投资 3.75 亿以竞争 Waymo；Toloka 是 AI 标注平台，被 Amazon、Microsoft 等使用。投资组合估值合计 76 亿，增速快于多数公开成长股。而其核心业务同比增长 700%+，ARR 达 70-90 亿，现金 48 亿，服务于 $META、$MSFT 等。这可能是其被纳入 MSCI 指数前最后一个月低于 90 美元的机会，将获数亿至十亿流入。相比 $IREN 或 $CIFR，$NBIS 是唯一拥有此类投资组合的数据中心成长股。$NBIS 仅估值 210 亿，市场正在忽视这一机会。
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Nebius [ $NBIS ] is the most undervalued growth company right now. And it has the potential to become the next $GOOGL at a $21B market cap. There's one simple reason: It's portfolio companies are mindblowing. The most incredible example on this concept is the company $FTX. Here's the story: When we look at how $META grew into a $1T+ company, it wasn't just Facebook. It was their portfolio companies Instagram, Whatsapp, and others made Meta dominate the social media landscape. $FTX was doing something similar, but in digital assets and frontier technologies. Four years ago, in 2021, $FTX invested $5.8B into a large basket of assets. And put a large chunk into these three core companies: 1. Anthropic, 13.56% at a $2.5 Billion valuation. 2. Robinhood [ $HOOD ] 7.6% at a $8.54B valuation 3. Solana [ $SOL ], 41M+ tokens. Fast forward to today, that would have been: · Anthropic in it's latest round is worth $350B. That stake would have been worth ~$47.4B. · Robinhood is now worth over $100B. That stake would be worth ~$7.6B. · Solana is now worth $131.5 per token, making the stake well over $5.7B. Those three companies alone generated well over $55B+ in value in 4 years time, and this is not even including FTX's tens of billions of dollars + hundreds of other investments + holdings in Chime, Layerzero, Aptos, Hidden Road (bought by $COIN), and crypto. Their portfolio companies outlasted their core business (and imagine, how much it would have been worth if the core business kept scaling like $GOOGL search did alongside Youtube). $NBIS now has the same setup as $FTX did in crypto, $META in social media, but in artificial intelligence with a legitimate and incredibly rapidly growing core business. Nebius owns: 1. Clickhouse, 28% at a ~$7B valuation ($6.3 H1 2025) 2. Avride, 83% at a ~$6B valuation. (post Uber raise) 3. Toloka AI, ~65% at a ~$640 million valuation 4. TripleTen, 100% at a ~$300m valuation. · Clickhouse powers Anthropic, $META, $TSLA, $NET, and many fortune 500 companies. · Avride is a self-driving car robotaxi company, spun out of Yandex that $UBER invested in a $375M round in to compete with Waymo. · Toloka is a AI labeling platform that Amazon, Microsoft, Anthropic, and Shopify uses. $1.96B + $4.96B + $416M + $300m = $7.6B valuation in portfolio companies that are growing faster than most public growth companies. But if we look at their core business that is scaling to 700%+ Y/Y to $7-9B ARR, with $4.8B in cash, powering $META, $MSFT, Cursor, governments, and many more... This might be the last month it's under $90 before it receives hundreds of millions to low billions of extra inflows from MSCI inclusion today. There's no other datacenter growth company that has this type of portfolio if we look at crowd favorites like $IREN or $CIFR. $NBIS is only valued at $21B and the market is sleeping on this opportunity.
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四大流动性冲击引发高杠杆资产暴跌，但AI巨头基本面未变。
市场刚刚经历了近代史上最严重的去杠杆冲击。 高贝塔资产正在崩溃： • $NBIS, $IREN, AI 股票从高点下跌约 40%+ • $MSTR, $BTC 在过去一个月暴跌 30-40%+ • 加密货币市值蒸发超过 1.2 万亿美元 这不正常，这是针对市场上增长最快且杠杆最高的板块的强制平仓。 以下是同时发生的四个流动性流失因素： 1. 加密货币前兆冲击（2025 年 10 月 – Binance 故障） • Binance 的定价错误导致 USDe 跌至 0.65 美元，在 24 小时内触发了超过 190 亿美元的强制清算 • 使用 USDe/wBETH/BNSOL 的高杠杆头寸（25x–50x）引发了全行业连锁保证金清算的连锁反应 • 该事件使加密货币结构脆弱，波动性现在威胁到流入 $MSTR/国债股票超过 70 亿美元的 MSCI 资金，存在 BTC/NAV 错配和强制出售比特币的风险 2. 美联储政策不确定性（降息鞭打效应） • 在美联储发出矛盾信号后两天内，市场对 12 月降息预期从 97% → 35% → 70%+ • 这种波动起到了隐性紧缩的作用，迫使杠杆基金和算法（在 $NVDA 财报后看到的情况）提前去杠杆 • 政策模糊性提高了全球风险，将美国的不确定性传导至全球融资市场的广泛抛售 3. AI 信贷压力（投机性债务破裂） • AI 建设需要 3.5 万亿美元的外部融资，促使公司大量进入债务市场 • Google + XAI 在 Similarweb 上的使用量提升引发了人们对 OpenAI 和循环融资的担忧，以及 $1T+ 的资本支出流向 $ORCL, $CRWV, $AMD 等公司，而这些公司并没有必要的资本。 • Applied Digital [ $APLD ] 23.5 亿美元垃圾债券（评级 B+）暴露了交易对手和集中度风险，由于需要更多债务来资助建设，其股票及相关数据中心股票下跌。 • 资本市场开始区分拥有真实现金流的公司和依赖投机性债务及 OpenAI 合同的公司，惩罚了如 $ORCL 和 $CRWV 等标的。 4. 日元套利交易平仓（催化剂） • 日本央行加息至 0.5% 及正常化缩小了美日利差，挤压了 80 万亿日元（约 5000 亿美元）的杠杆头寸 • 日本国债收益率上升引发回流资金，给美国收益率带来压力并抽干全球流动性 • 强制平仓导致投资者出售美国科技股和加密货币以偿还日元贷款，加剧了避险情绪的连锁反应 底线： 所有四个冲击都从市场的同一角落抽干了流动性——高贝塔、高杠杆资产，导致成长型科技和加密货币剧烈去杠杆，并增加了进一步强制抛售的风险。 过度的杠杆、脆弱的资产负债表和集中度风险决定了哪些资产跌幅最大。 美联储开启新一轮降息周期是一个“拐点”，投资者需要判断这种宽松是预防性措施还是对更严重衰退的反应。然而有一件事是确定的： 宏观冲击重置了估值，但并没有改变从 $NBIS 到 $META 的企业基本面。
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Markets just suffered their worst deleveraging shock in recent history. High-beta assets are collapsing: • $NBIS, $IREN, AI stocks are down ~40%+ from peaks • $MSTR, $BTC plunged 30-40%+ in the past month • Crypto erased over $1.2 trillion in value This wasn’t normal, it was a forced unwind across the markets with the most growth and leverage. Here's the four liquidity drains hitting at once: 1. Crypto precursor shock (Oct 2025 – Binance failure) • A pricing error on Binance sent USDe to $0.65, triggering $19B+ in forced liquidations in 24 hours • Highly leveraged positions (25x–50x) using USDe/wBETH/BNSOL cascaded into a chain reaction of cascading margin liquidations across the industry • The event left crypto structurally fragile, and volatility now threatens $7B+ MSCI inflows into $MSTR/treasury stocks, risking BTC/NAV mispricing and forced Bitcoin sales 2. Fed policy uncertainty (rate cut whiplash) • Markets priced a December cut at 97% → 35% → 70%+ in two days after conflicting Fed signals • This volatility acted as a stealth tightening, forcing leveraged funds and algorithms (seen post $NVDA earnings) to deleverage pre-emptively • Policy ambiguity raised global risk, transmitting U.S. uncertainty into broad selling across global funding markets 3. AI credit stress (speculative debt cracks) • AI build-out requires $3.5T in external financing, pushing companies heavily into debt markets • Google + XAI raise in usage per similarweb raised concerns about OpenAI and circular financing, alongside how $1T+ in capex spend going into $ORCL, $CRWV, $AMD, and others without having the ncessary capital. • Applied Digital [ $APLD ] $2.35B junk bond (rated B+) exposed counterparty and concentration risk, sending its stock and related data center stocks down due to the need of more debt to fund buildout. • Capital markets began differentiating between firms with real cash flow and those reliant on speculative debt and OpenAI contracts, punishing names such as $ORCL and $CRWV. 4. Yen carry trade unwind (the catalyst) • BoJ rate hikes to 0.5% and normalization narrowed the U.S.–Japan rate gap, squeezing ¥80T (~$500B) in leveraged positions • Rising JGB yields triggered repatriation flows, pressuring U.S. yields and draining global liquidity • Forced unwinds led investors to sell U.S. tech and crypto to repay yen loans, amplifying the risk-off cascade Bottom line: All four shocks drained liquidity from the same corner of the market, high-beta, leveraged assets, driving a violent unwind in growth tech and crypto and raising the risk of further forced selling. Excessive leverage, fragile balance sheets, and concentration risk determined which assets crashed the hardest. The beginning of a new rate-cutting cycle by the Fed is an "inflection point" as investors need to determine whether the easing is a preventative measure or a reaction to a more serious downturn. However one thing is for certain: The macro shock reset valuations, but it didn’t change the fundamentals of businesses from $NBIS to $META.
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对比WULF与IREN订单规模，批评无解释发帖。
@AustranSkolSwft 哪一个才具有侮辱性？是来自 $GOOGL/Anthropic 拥有数百亿积压订单的 $WULF，还是拥有来自 $MSFT 超90亿美元订单的 $IREN。发布这样的内容却不加任何解释，并没有太大帮助。
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@AustranSkolSwft Which one is insulting? $WULF with tens of billions of backlog from $GOOGL/Anthropic or $IREN with $9B+ from $MSFT. Posting that with no explanation is not very helpful.
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对比IREN与NBIS短期容量优势及长期利润率，并提及GLXY会计处理。
简单定性回复：$IREN 确实前置了连接容量(Connected Capacity)，若从该角度（例如 2026 年上半年 1+ GW）对比 $NBIS 2026 年下半年的 1 GW，$IREN 胜出，且应利用这段时间签署更多合同。长期来看，Nebius 在两者间实现容量持平，且凭借全栈(Full-Stack)而非纯 IaaS 拥有更高利润率，这在 $MSFT 合同的每兆瓦营收中已有所体现。我记得曾对电力成本与利润率做过定量拆解，发现在 Oracle TI 事件中，利用率/编排(Utilization/Orchestration)比廉价电力更重要。关于 $NBIS 的趣闻：他们在 NJ 300 MW 设施的新绿地(Greenfield)站点与 Dataone 合作采用新的表后(Behind the Meter)方案，但短期可能落后于 $IREN。我不是能源专家，所以不个人预测天然气管道改造估算，仅采用管理层对连接/签约容量的预测。关于 $GLXY，同意加密货币会计处理的观点。这在加权时并非考量因素。
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So just a quick qualitative reply, $IREN does frontload connected capacity and if you go from that standpoint (eg. 1+ GW H1 2026) vs. 1 GW from $NBIS H2 2026, $IREN wins and should be using that time to sign more contracts. Longer term, Nebius achieves capacity parity between the two and has higher margins from full-stack vs. pure iaas and you saw this from the revenue per mw from the $MSFT contract. I remember doing a quantitative breakdown on power costs with margins and found that utilization/orchestration mattered vs. cheap power during that Oracle TI fiasco. Fun fact about $NBIS, they have new behind the meter approaches with dataone on their greenfield sites with power generation on their 300 MW facility in NJ., but probably lags near term to $IREN. I'm not an energy expert so I won't personally go into projections regarding natural gas pipelines conversion estimates, so just going with connected/contracted capacity projections from management. For $GLXY agreed about the crypto accounting. That wasn't a factor when doing weighting.
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讨论DGXX执行风险及CIFR受加密货币拖累，关注HPC板块。
是的，我很欣赏与你的交流，相比许多其他成员*咳咳 $IREN*，因为你补充了一些关于 $DGXX 的定性观点，并改变了我对执行风险的看法。对加密货币的依赖因比特币资产负债表拖累了 $CIFR 和许多其他公司，但我更关注高性能计算(HPC)板块。但正如你所说，这是主观排名，我相信每个人的名单都会不同。
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Yep, I appreciate talking with you compared to many other members *cough cough $IREN*, since you added some good qualitative points about $DGXX and changed my mind about execution risk. Attachment to crypto did drag down $CIFR and many others because of BTC balance sheets, but I paid more attention to HPC segments. But as you mentioned, it's subjective ranking, and I'm sure the list would be different per-person.
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澄清对BITF、SLNH等股评级，讨论NBIS产能及SMCI、DGXX风险。
所以我认为你是在回复我从未提出的观点。澄清一下：我没有对 $BITF 进行评级。如果你读了我的帖子，它属于未评级类别，所以我不会辩论它与 $WYFI 或 $SLNH 相比的位置。 至于 $SLNH，我们在任何观点上都没有分歧，我也将其列为 F 级，因为它是一只炒作股，其“2.8GW 产能”建设计划需要过度的债务/稀释。 你说关于 $NBIS “它与比特币挖矿的关联程度以及他们是否拥有电力”——我会把这当作口误，认为你是在用比特币挖矿指代 $CLSK，而你指的是 $NBIS 的产能。 $NBIS 在产能方面实现了与 $IREN 的近乎长期平价，后者被认为是行业中 GW 产能最高的玩家。所以我认为那部分是不正确的。 至于关于 $SMCI 作为可靠/值得信赖的合作伙伴的论点，我某种程度上不同意，但你确实改变了我的想法，认为 $DGXX 具有更低的运营和技术执行风险。 除此之外，那部分并不会真正改变排名，例如将其与 $APLD 并列，后者有 2 个超大规模云厂商合同（如果包括 $CRWV），但存在垃圾债券（收入可见性）的下行风险。 如果你想仅因市值带来的回报潜力而将其与 $CLSK 并列，我会同意。
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So I think you're replying to points I never made. Just to clarify: I didn't rate $BITF. If you read my post, it fell into the unrated category, so I'm not debating where it goes in comparison with $WYFI or $SLNH. As for $SLNH, we're not disagreeing on anything I put it as F tier as well since it's a hype stock that requires excessive debt/dilution on their "2.8GW capacity" buildout plans. You said for $NBIS "how attached it is to Bitcoin Mining and if they own their power" - I'll take that as a mispeak and that you were using Bitcoin mining in reference with $CLSK, and that you were referencing capacity for $NBIS +. $NBIS achieved near long-term parity with $IREN from the capacity side, which is associated as the highest GW capacity player in the industry. So I'd argue that part is incorrect. So as for $SMCI being a reliable/trustworthy partner argument, I sort of disagree, but you did change my mind regarding $DGXX having lower operational and technical execution risk. That aside, that part wouldn't really change rankings, eg. putting it the same as $APLD which has 2 hyperscaler contracts (if you include $CRWV) but downside from junk bonds (revenue visibility) If you wanted to put it on par with $CLSK just due to return potential from MC size, I'd give you that.
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分析NBIS融资优势及高利润率，认为其抗风险能力强于同行。
当然，我从产能融资的角度将 $NBIS 列为 S 级，因为它不受影响其他数据中心（DC）股票（如被迫发行垃圾债的 $APLD）的信贷紧缩影响。 从第三季度财报来看，$CRWV 面临 12.1 亿至 12.5 亿美元的利息支出，而现金等价物仅为 19.4 亿美元。 其他新云（neocloud）板块股票需要更多现金来资助建设并实现吉瓦（GW）产能变现，例如 $IREN，且将面临更高的利率或缺乏融资兴趣（如可转换债券）。 这大概就是板块抛售的原因，但部分抛售相对不合理（例如 $NBIS、$CIFR）。 对于 $NBIS，你可能关注的是其 25 亿美元的自动取款机（ATM）增发。凭借现有的 48 亿美元以上现金，他们足以支持全栈建设和产能变现，并可根据与 $META、$MSFT 的可见收入合同扩展未来产能。 但我个人对其 ATM 增发并不满意，因为这会增加成本影响股价，并抵消 11 月 24 日纳入 MSCI 指数带来的资金流入。 但 $NBIS 拥有 70-90 亿美元的年度经常性收入（ARR），拥有行业最高利润率，鉴于其 200 亿美元市值，这足以抵消 10% 的稀释和可转换债券的影响。
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Sure, I put $NBIS as S tier from that capacity funding angle because it's isolated from credit tightening affecting other DC stocks like $APLD (that had to sell junk bonds). From Q3 earnings, $CRWV is facing $1.21-$1.25B in interest expenses and only has $1.94 billion in cash equivalents. Other neocloud sector stocks will need more to cash fund buildout + monetize GW capacity ike $IREN, and will face higher interest rates or lack of funding interest (eg. convertibles). This is kind of why we're seeing a sector selloff, but some were relatively undeserved (eg. $NBIS, $CIFR). With $NBIS you're probably looking at their $2.5B ATM offering. With their existing $4.8B+ in cash, they have enough for their full-stack buildout and capacity monetization + and can scale future capacity from visible revenue contracts with $META, $MSFT. But I'm personally not happy with their ATM, since it's an overhead affecting stock price + balances out inflows from MSCI inclusion in 2 days Nov 24th. But $NBIS with $7-9B ARR has the highest margins in the industry, which would offset 10% dilution and convertibles given their $20B marketcap.
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Coreweave因高债务和OpenAI依赖被评F级，NBIS更优。
如果你花30秒读一下帖子，就会发现我并没有给 $BITF 评级。 关于 $CRWV，短期有上涨空间，因为抛售至60美元区间确实过度了。但中长期的债务利息负担过重。 相比之下，$NBIS 和 $IREN 通过可转换债券融资或低利息，每季度对利润率的侵蚀很小；而 Coreweave 每年支付的债务利息超过12亿美元。 此外，OpenAI 占其总积压订单的三分之一。虽然他们拥有一些有防御性的大型超大规模客户（$META, $MSFT）以及 $NVDA 的背书，但像 $ORCL 那样为 OpenAI 建设基础设施，鉴于其缺乏收入以及 Gemini ($GOOGL) 的竞争，存在相当大的风险。 因此，尽管 Coreweave 是备受好评的全栈式服务供应商，但由于荒谬的债务利息侵蚀利润率，加上积压订单高度集中于 OpenAI（合同不确定性），其评级为 F 级，而这并不影响像 $NBIS 这样多元化的全栈式服务供应商。
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If you spent just 30 seconds reading the post, you would see I didn't rate $BITF. With $CRWV there's short term upside because sell-off was way too much to the $60s. But medium-long term they have way too much debt interest. While $NBIS and $IREN funds through convertibles or little interest cutting into margins every quarter, Coreweave pays over $1.2B+ in annual debt expense interest. OpenAI also makes up 1/3th of their total backlog, so while they have some defensible hyperscalers ( $META, $MSFT) + $NVDA backstop, building out for OpenAI like $ORCL, presents considerable risk given their lack of revenue + Gemini $GOOGL competition. So they are F tier despite being a highly rated full-stack offering due to absurd debt interest cutting into margins + large concentration of backlog from OpenAI (contract uncertainty) that don't affect diversified full-stack offerings like $NBIS.
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基于财报与宏观因素，发布Neocloud板块个股梯队排名及评估框架。
Neocloud（新云）板块梯队排名。 Q3财报后+市场板块回调： [S] 级：$NBIS [A] 级：$CIFR, $WULF, $IREN [B] 级：$GLXY, $CORZ [C] 级：$APLD, $CLSK [D] 级：$WLAC, $DGDX, $WYFI [F] 级：$CRWV*, $SLNH [U] 级：$GRRR, $MARA, $DGDX, $CLSK, $BITF, $HIVE, $RIOT ** 从左到右依次排名。 *：短期价格下跌创造了诱人的入场点（例如 $CRWV），但中期（12个月）吸引力仍然有限。 **：不确定，决定不评级（但在梯队图中列为F级）。一些纯矿企尚未完全转型为HPC（高性能计算）+ 合同不确定性太大。 很多人询问财报后的更新，这些只是基于以下加权评估的个人想法： a. 合同可见性和收入确定性 b. 对宏观收紧和信贷条件的韧性 c. 资产负债表强度和利润率概况 d. HPC建设风险（产能执行和编排） e. 收入增长轨迹（1-2年视野） f. 当前市值相对于收入增长和基础设施价值的比率 整个Neocloud板块都很有吸引力，但截至Q3，某些公司的非对称回报显然高于其他公司。
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The Neocloud Sector Tierlist. Post Q3 earnings + Market Sector Drop: [S] Tier: $NBIS [A] Tier: $CIFR, $WULF, $IREN [B] Tier: $GLXY, $CORZ [C] Tier: $APLD, $CLSK [D] Tier: $WLAC, $DGDX, $WYFI [F] Tier, $CRWV*, $SLNH [U] Tier: $GRRR, $MARA, $DGDX, $CLSK, $BITF, $HIVE, $RIOT ** Ranked in order from left to right. * : Short-term pricing drops created compelling entries (e.g., $CRWV), but med-term (12m) attractiveness remains limited. **: Uncertain, decided not to rate them (but put them in tierlist photo as F). Some pure miners haven't fully pivot into HPC yet + too much contract uncertainty. Lot of people asked about updates post earnings, these are just personal thoughts based on weighted assessments of: a. Contract visibility and revenue certainty b. Resilience to macro tightening and credit conditions c. Balance sheet strength and margin profile d. HPC buildout risk (capacity execution and orchestration) e. Revenue growth trajectory (1–2 year horizon) f. Current market capitalization relative to revenue ramp and infrastructure value The whole Neocloud sector is compelling but some have clearly higher asymmetrical return over others as of Q3.
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批评对方跳过量化论点进行人身攻击，强调讨论应基于实质内容。
我一直专注于量化论点，甚至写了一份回复来帮助你们理解产能比较的细微差别+在回复中包含了$IREN 的看好论点。但跳过所有内容然后进行人身攻击，比如“操纵读者以拉升股价”来否定一个论点，对于讨论来说毫无实质意义。
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I've been focusing on quantitative points and even wrote out a response to help you understand capacity comparison nuances + included an $IREN favored argument in the reply. But just skipping over everything then going into personal attacks like "gaslight readers to pump" to dismiss a point has no substance for a discussion.
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澄清NBIS与IREN容量对比逻辑，反驳“文字混乱”论，强调前置容量价值。
重新阅读关于 $NBIS 和 $IREN 的表格及要点可能会有所帮助，而不是跳过并因为觉得这是“混乱的文字沙拉”就否定定量分析。 本着善意，为了帮助你理解：表格有三行。 - 当前已连接容量 - 2026年指导/预期已连接容量 - 指导签约容量。 这是关于将已获电力转化为运营数据中心容量（截至2026年底）或各公司签约容量指导的“苹果对苹果”（同等条件）比较。这与财报中的毛利率正常化不同。 因此，$IREN 1.4 GW 与 $NBIS 1 GW 的比较，或指导签约容量的比较，是各公司截至2026年底预期指导的同等条件比较。 3 GW 与 2.5 GW 的比较是指导数据，且是正确的。唯一的语义细微差别在于“已获、并网组合”与“预期签约扩张目标”（我之前用括号注明了前者），如果我想更清楚，本应再加一行。然而，你的说法并不能否定两种指导容量的比较。 $IREN 多头应该争论的细微差别是前置容量的价值（例如 $IREN 上半年 1.4 GW 对比 $NBIS 下半年）。不要说因为内容太长无法阅读 -> 所以无法比较。
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Might be helpful to read the table and the points again on $NBIS and $IREN rather than skipping it and dismissing something quantitative because you think it's "convoluted word salad". So coming in with good faith, just to help you understand: there's three rows. - current connected capacity - guided/expected connected capacity 2026 - guided contracted capacity. This is an apples to apples comparison regarding converting secured power into operational data center capacity by the end of 2026 or guidance for contracted capacity for each company. This is not the same as gross margin normalization on earnings reports. So, the comparison of $IREN 1.4 GW vs $NBIS 1 GW, or guided contracted capacity is an apples-to-apples comparison of each company's expected guidance by the end of 2026. The comparison of 3 GW to 2.5 GW was guidance and is correct. The only semantic nuance is "secured, grid-connected portfolio" vs. "expected contracted expansion target" which I put the earlier in parenthesis, and if I wanted to be extra clear, I should added another row. However, what you're saying doesn't dismiss the comparison of both guided capacities. The nuance $IREN bulls you should be arguing is the value of frontloading capacity (eg. $IREN 1.4 GW H1 vs H2 $NBIS). Not saying that something is too long to read -> you can't compare.
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因执行风险及融资压力降级$IREN，维持$NBIS跑赢大盘评级。
我的措辞非常严谨。你在阅读关于“引导性签约容量”的讨论时，跳过了“预期”一词。 因此，我再次重申上述观点，但提供更详细的解释： $IREN 最初的护城河是吉瓦(GW)级容量+垂直整合。$NBIS 的护城河是全栈(Full-stack)。 然而，Nebius 在长期吉瓦级容量上实现了与原本被认为是 $IREN 最大护城河的平价。 以下是有帮助的解释： - 短期：$IREN 0.66 GW 已连接 vs. $NBIS 22 GW 已连接。目前，$IREN 拥有更多前置容量。 - 中期：$NBIS 和 $IREN 之间的已连接电力差距正在缩小，$IREN 2026年为 1 GW，Nebius 为 1.4 GW。 - 长期：$IREN 规划 3 GW 电力扩张，$NBIS 规划 2.5 GW 签约电力扩张，Nebius 在已连接电力方面实现长期平价。 Nebius 管理层还将容量预期提高了 150%，并且有很大可能再次增加，以超越其他新云(Neocloud)公司。 此外，$IREN 最终转向全栈 IAAS 而非风险较低的托管(Colo)($CIFR, $WULF)，以追求更高的收入和利润率潜力，正如他们的 ER 所述。 但考虑到 $CRWV + $ORCL 在软件/编排方面的建设难度，与拥有现成且即插即用现有堆栈的 $NBIS 相比，$IREN 的新转型执行风险极高。 如果 $IREN 能做好这一点，其上行潜力巨大，但由于执行风险以及为 AI 云转型的容量变现所需融资面临的信贷收紧，我已将其降级。 如上所述，Nebius 拥有更大且多元化的客户群，这增强了收入可见性和防御性，因此我维持对 $NBIS 的跑赢大盘评级，因其具有非对称上行潜力。
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I'm very precise with my wording. You skipped over "expected" while reading discussions about guided contracted capacity. So reiterating what I've said above but with a longer explanation: $IREN's original moat was GW capacity + vertical integration. $NBIS's moat was full-stack. However, Nebius achieved long-term parity with GW capacity that was originally thought to be $IREN's biggest moat. Here's a helpful explanation: - Near term $IREN .66 GW connected vs. 22 GW connected with $NBIS. Today, $IREN has more frontloaded capacity. - Mid-term, The connected power argument is closing between $NBIS and $IREN with 1 GW 2026 for IREN and 1.4 GW for Nebius. - Long term, $IREN projects 3 GW power expansion, $NBIS projects 2.5 GW contracted power expansion with Nebius achieving longer term parity with connected power. Nebius management also raised capacity expectations by 150%, and there's a large chance it increases again to exceed other Neocloud companies. On top of that $IREN ended up pivoting to full-stack IAAS instead of lower-risk colo ( $CIFR, $WULF ) for higher revenue potential due to "higher revenue and margin potential" as per their ER. But looking at $CRWV + $ORCL buildout difficulty with software/orchestration, this immensely raises execution risk for a new pivot with $IREN compared to $NBIS, which has it down + plug and play with existing stack. $IREN has high upside potential if they get this right, but due to execution risk and credit tightening required for future financing for capacity monetization for their AI cloud pivot, I've downgraded it. Nebius also has a much larger diversified client base as mentioned above for both revenue visibility + defensibility, which is why I maintain outperform on $NBIS due to asymmetrical upside.
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深度解析9只个股基本面与目标价，指导散户建立独立估值模型。
基于权益排名表： 以下是对每只股票的深入分析，以及我如何重新调整投资组合以利用市场重置： · $NBIS 现价 $92，目标价 $400 / 1年 · $RKLB 现价 $43，目标价 $500 / 5年 · $CRCL 现价 $72，目标价 $150 / 8个月 · $ALAB 现价 $143.4，目标价 $250 / 6个月 · $SNAP 现价 $8.1，目标价 $22 / 1年 · $CIFR 现价 $14.8，目标价 $28 / 6个月 · $RDDT 现价 $185，目标价 $275 / 8个月 · $SMCI 现价 $34，目标价 $55 / 6个月 · $HIMS 现价 $35，目标价 $60 / 6个月 此顺序基于发布时的持仓集中度权重，以及基于现有信息对中型市值（$50亿+）板块的内部目标价推测。 以下是每只股票及目标价时间框架的深入拆解，以及“定性”理由： 1. Nebius ($NBIS)：市值 $230亿。极度低估且与基本面脱节。 $70-90亿远期年度经常性收入(ARR)，20-30%息税摊销前利润(EBIT)，来自 Shopify、埃森哲、Cursor、外国政府的企业合同，以及来自 Meta 和微软的超大规模客户合同，为 Nebius 提供了收入可见性。拥有 $48亿+现金，使其免受影响数据中心的信贷紧缩影响。预计 2026 年签约容量达 2.5 GW，可与许多其他公司（如 $IREN 的 2.8 GW）媲美，并击败许多关于容量/电力的论点。由于其许多投资组合公司支持 Tesla 和 Anthropic 等公司，它也具有更高的增长潜力（想想 $MSFT 及其投资组合公司带来的长期防御性）。 此外，随着 $NVDA 第四季度业绩爆发，Jensen 澄清了反对 GPU 折旧的论点，这有助于提升数据中心板块情绪。 1年目标价 $400，基于远期收入/利润率估值达 $1000亿+。 2. Rocketlab ($RKLB)：市值 $220亿。短期高估，长期潜力低估。 Rocketlab 是我与比特币并列的最高确信度5年长线标的。在太空领域，并非赢家通吃，我维持 $3500-5000亿长期目标价以匹配 SpaceX 的最新估值/能力。 目前它被高估。但从纯技术角度看，构建可重复使用火箭构成了惊人且具防御性的护城河，我们正处于其端到端太空产品大规模商业化（可能在 ~2028 年）的早期阶段。 然而，市场正在计入 Flatlite 商业化（如 Starlink）和中程有效载荷（SpaceX Falcon 9）的远期增长。市场也计入远期增长，但对于 Rocketlab 而言，关键在于未来有多远。这始终是一个坚实的买入机会，取决于你对公司执行的耐心程度。 3. Circle ($CRCL) - 市值 $160亿，低估。 对于 Circle，自其市值 $500亿以来我就看空，建议做空 Circle，做多 Coinbase，因为 $COIN 与 Circle 有 50% 的收入分成。 此前因流通股本数字和财报后/12月2日巨大的内部人锁定期导致抛售（类似 $BULL）而被高估。流通股本动态很重要，像 Cathie Wood 这样的 ETF 经理似乎不理解（因此我的警告）。 但现在我们达到了合理的估值水平。我预计 USDC 商业化将继续，鉴于数字资产市场的监管重点，我看到 $CRCL 将接管 Tether 的大部分市值。 话虽如此，一旦我们看到内部人股份重新分配给机构和长期持有者，计入稳定币交易量增长，它完全值得 $300亿+的市值定价。 4. Astera Labs ($ALAB) - 市值 $220亿，估值合理 ALAB 是我中期高确信度选股之一，因为 Mag7 采用其连接技术用于数据中心建设。 增长极高，利润率类似 $NVDA，约为 ~74%，最新估算：$2.3亿/季度（同比增长 101%）。我的论点是，如果 Mag7 依赖某家公司（$NVDA 用于 GPU，NBIS、IREN、CIFR 用于 DC AI 云建设），该公司将连续几个季度大幅超出预期，我们正看到这一点。 尽管全面超出业绩预期，Astera 最近从 $250 抛售回 $140 区间，这提供了一个良好的买入机会。 我维持中期目标价 $250，以在 NVDA 业绩后及 Anthropic $400亿 DC 到 $GOOGL 在德克萨斯州 $500亿 DC + 连接需求创纪录的数据中心建设后恢复。 5. Snapchat ($SNAP) 市值 $130亿，低估。 $SNAP 是我最不喜欢的股票和 CEO 之一（抱歉 Evan）。 然而，我无法反驳基本面的变化。我最近论点帖子的 TLDR 是，他们正在削减来自存储 10 年前记忆/视频的巨大运营支出膨胀，如果你查看他们的 GCP 托管费用，这会侵蚀利润率。 现在他们既减少了该 OPex 成本，又从中增加了收入。我们还有与 Perplexity 的 AI 交易，增加了 $4亿+的额外收入流，如 RDDT。 然而，短期内由于相对于 AI 公司的表现不佳，它正遭受税务收割。在 2026 年 Q1，我预计市场将开始大幅计入新的基本面，该公司将大幅超出预期。 话虽如此，随着市场计入新动态，我预计从此处 1 年内有超过 200%+ 的上涨空间。 5. CIFR ($CIFR) - 市值 $50亿，低估 $CIFR 是 Neocloud 板块中我最喜欢的第二只股票。据记忆，其资产负债表上持有大量比特币，并受到 BTC 价格从 $120k 跌至 $90k 的实质性影响。 然而，我预计随着级联保证金清算结束且机构以低价买入比特币，加密资产价格将在几个月内恢复。 Nebius 位居榜首，因为它拥有完整的 AI-云价值链，具有更高的收入潜力和更强的回报，尽管这迫使他们处理编排、软件和 GPU 生命周期风险，而不是坚持托管。 然而，$CIFR 避免了整个风险面，并拥有 AMZN 和 GOOGL 的支持作为长期收入锚点。它也免受 GPU 采购、管理和折旧的影响。 对于 CIFR 的经济模型，我们获得了一个基于超大规模客户空间、电力和冷却的高利润率、年金结构。经风险调整后，它是该组中最安全的名称之一。但权衡是上涨空间受限。像 10 年、15 年这样的长期租赁减缓了收入爬坡，并相对于从 $1.45亿季度收入到一年内 $21亿的全栈 Neocloud 运营商（如 NBIS）削弱了回报。 话虽如此，一旦市场计入 $AMZN、$GOOGL Fluidstack 收入且比特币价格恢复，我维持 1 个月后的 $28 目标价。 6. Reddit ($RDDT) - 估值适中 来自 WSB 子版块 Wendy's 垃圾桶的我，自然对这个平台有偏见。 然而，Reddit 最初从 $270 的抛售是由于对 ChatGPT 引用的担忧，这是不重要的。现在，最新数据显示引用回来了，但 Reddit 的价格仍停留在 $185（远低于该数字）+ 部分由于宏观因素。 Reddit 是最不臃肿、高利润的社交媒体公司之一。由于年轻和年长受众的网络效应的长期防御性（与 Snap 9亿+ MAU 主要为年轻一代相比），它将长存。 我预计 RDDT 将通过收购（如 $HOOD 交易所）扩大货币化途径，得益于其巨大的自由现金流(FCF)和盈利能力，或者像 Facebook 最初收购 WhatsApp、Instagram、构建 Messenger 一样。这是一只低风险、高增长的股票，因此我维持 8 个月后的 $275 目标价。 7. SMCI ($SMCI) - 低估，市值 $200亿。 $200亿市值是个笑话。无话可说。他们正在实现 $50亿季度收入（当然利润率较低）。然而，市场正在计入公司收入下降。 SMCI 将大部分积压订单推迟到 2026 年 Q2，这与 Neoclouds 到 Mag7 客户的许多数据中心建设相一致。 他们预计明年收入同比增长 50%+，至少 $360亿收入，但鉴于 NVDA 业绩爆发带来的数据中心建设，我预计服务器机架公司如 $DELL 和 SMCI 将在 2026 年 Q2 表现优异。 这就是为什么我利用当前季度的收入滞后延迟，并分配 6 个月后的 $55 目标价。 8. Hims and Her Health ($HIMS) - 低估（市值 $80亿） 个人而言，我仅将 HIMS 用于短期交易突破。我一直不长期持有高于 $50 的股票。 然而，回到 $35，它重置了今年大部分的增长，但收入同比增长 49% 至 $5亿，并产生大量自由现金流。 最被低估的叙事是 Zava 收购。这为 HIMS 平台增加了 130万+用户，并使公司能够扩展到欧盟市场。 类似于 META 收购 Instagram 等公司，扩大基础+货币化，我预计 HIMS 将对 Zava 做同样的事情 + 市场正在计入当前的 Zava 估算数字。 这可能是我信心最低的股票，尤其是 CEO 在离开后出售股份，在 $70 时的 SS 帖子让我味道不好 👀。 但话虽如此，这是一个在 6 个月时间内反弹至 $60 的好机会。 希望你喜欢我的观点。有很多关于价格的帖子，但我试图留下更定性的拆解（+ 部分定量，但省略很多技术内容以便阅读），以帮助散户建立自己的确信度和理解。 建立理解对于创建你自己的内部估值模型很重要，而不是盲目跟随 FinX 发帖人 + 当股价暂时下跌时投降。 如果你留下你的投资组合+集中度，我很乐意讨论更多。
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Based on the equity ranking table: Here's a deeper analysis of each stock, alongside how I reposition my portfolio to capitalize on the market reset: · $NBIS at $92, PT $400 / 1Y · $RKLB at $43, PT $500 / 5Y · $CRCL at $72, PT $150 / 8M · $ALAB at $143.4, PT $250 / 6M · $SNAP at $8.1, PT $22 / 1Y · $CIFR at $14.8, PT $28 / 6M · $RDDT at $185, PT $275 / 8M · $SMCI at $34, PT $55 / 6M · $HIMS at $35, PT $60 / 6M This is in order of concentration weighting from when posted and internal PT speculation based on existing information for mid-cap ($5B+) sections. Here’s a deeper breakdown on each one and PT timeframe, and a “qualitative”why: 1. Nebius ( $NBIS ): $23B marketcap. Incredibly undervalued and detached from fundamentals. $7-9B forward ARR, 20-30% EBIT, enterprise contracts from Shopify, Accenture, Cursor, foreign governments and hyperscaler contracts from Meta and Microsoft give Nebius revenue visibility. With $4.8B+ in cash, it's isolated from credit tightening affecting data centers. With 2.5 GW expected capacity contracted 2026, it rivals many others eg. $IREN at 2.8 GW, and defeats many of the capacity/power arguments. With many portfolio companies powering companies like Tesla and Anthropic, it also has higher growth potential (think $MSFT with its portfolio companies for longer defensibility). We also had stellar $NVDA earnings going into Q4 with their blowout, Jensen clarifying arguments against GPU depreciation, which helps with DC sector sentiment. $400 1 year price target, $100B+ valuation given forward revenue/margins. 2. Rocketlab ( $RKLB ): $22B marketcap. Overvalued current term, undervalued long term potential. Rocketlab is my highest conviction 5Y long alongside Bitcoin. With Space, it's not winner takes all, and I've maintained $350-500B long term PT to match SpaceX’s most recent valuation/capabilities. As of now, it's overvalued. But it's an incredible + defensible moat from purely a technological standpoint building reusable rockets and we're early in terms of commercialization of their end-to-end space products at scale (likely ~2028). However, we're pricing in forward growth with Flatlite commericalization (eg. Starlink), and medium-lift payloads (SpaceX Falcon 9). The market prices in forward growth as well but it’s more about how long in the future with Rocketlab. It's always a solid buy, depending on how patient you are with company execution. 3. Circle ( $CRCL ) - $16B marketcap, undervalued. With Circle, I've been bear posting it since it was a $50B marketcap, saying short Circle, long Coinbase, given $COIN has 50% revenue sharing with Circle. It was overvalued due to float numbers and massive insider lockups 2-3 days after earnings/Dec 2nd led to a sell-off (like $BULL). Float dynamics matter a lot that ETF managers like Cathie Wood seem to not understand (hence my warnings). But now we're reaching respectable valuation numbers. I expect USDC commercialization to continue and given a regulatory focus in the digital asset market, I see $CRCL taking over a lot of Tether's marketcap. That being said, it's well deserving of a $30B+ marketcap pricing in stablecoin volume growth once we start seeing insider shares redistributed to institutions and long term holders. 4. Astera Labs ( $ALAB ) - $22B marketcap, reasonable valuation ALAB was one of my mid-term high conviction picks, due to Mag7 adoption of connectivity for datacenter buildout. Incredibly high growth and $NVDA-like margins sitting at ~74%, latest er: $230m/q (101% Y/Y growth). My thesis was that if Mag7 is dependent on a company ($NVDA for GPUs) ( NBIS, IREN, CIFR for DC AI cloud buildout), the company will blow away expections quarter after quarter, and we're seeing this. There's been a recent sell-off on Astera from $250 back to $140 marks, depsite beating earning expectations across the board and this presents a good buying opportunity. I maintain a medium term PT $250 for recovery after NVDA earnings and record-high DC buildout from Antrophic's $40B DC to $GOOGL's $50B DC in Texas + connectivity demand. 5. Snapchat ( $SNAP ) $13B marketcap, undervalued. $SNAP is one of my least favorite stocks and CEO's (sorry Evan). However, I can't argue with fundamental changes. A TLDR of my most recent thesis post was that they're cutting their massive opex bloat from memories/videos stored 10 years ago and if you look into their GCP hosting fees, it's cutting in margins. Now they're both reducing that OPex cost and increasing revenue from that. We also have AI deals with perplexity adding $400m+ additional revenue streams like RDDT. However, short term it's suffering from tax-harvesting due to underperformance this year relative to AI companies. In 2026 Q1, I expect the market to start pricing in the new fundamentals Hard. and for this company to beat expectation soundly. That being said I expect over a 200%+ upside 1Y from here with the market pricing in the new dynamics. 5. CIFR ( $CIFR ) - Undervalued at $5B marketcap $CIFR is my second favorite stock in the Neocloud sector. From memory, it holds a lot of Bitcoin on its balance sheet and is materially affected by the selloff in BTC prices from $120k to $90k. However I expect crypto asset prices to recover in a few months once cascading margin liqudations finish and instituions buy-in Bitcoin at low prices. Nebius is top because it owns the full AI-cloud value chain for higher revenue potential and stronger returns, even though it forces them to handle orchestration, software, and GPU lifecycle risk instead of sticking to colocation. However, $CIFR because it avoids that entire risk surface and has backing from AMZN and GOOGL for long term revenue anchors. It also stays insulated from GPU procurement, management, and depreciation. For CIFR's economics we get a a high-margin, annuity structure built on space, power, and cooling for hyperscalers. Risk-adjusted, it’s one of the safest names in the group. But the trade-off is capped upside Long leases like 10Y, 15Y slow the revenue ramp and mute the payoff relative to full-stack Neocloud operators like NBIS that go from $145m quarterly revenue to $2.1B in a year. That being said I maintain a $28 PT in 1 month once market prices in $AMZN, $GOOGL Fluidstack revenue and Bitcoin prices recover. 6. Reddit ( $RDDT ) - Moderate valuation Coming from the Wendy's dumpsters on WSB subreddit, I am naturally biased toward this platform. However, the initial sell-off of Reddit at $270 was due to fears over ChatGPT citations, which was immaterial. Now, recent data shows that citations are back, but Reddit's price still sits at $185 (way below that number) + partly due to macro. Reddit is one of the least bloated, highly profitable social media companies. And it's here to stay due to long term defensibility of the network effect of both younger + older audiences (compared to Snap 900m+ MAU of mostly younger generation). I expect RDDT to scale up monetization avenues through acquisitions like $HOOD (exchanges) due to their massive FCF and profitability or how Facebook originally acquired WhatsApp, Instagram, built out messenger. It's a low-risk, high growth stock, which is why I maintain a $275 PT in 8 months. 7. SMCI ( $SMCI ) - Undervalued, $20B marketcap. $20B marketcap is a joke. Nothing else to say. They're doing $5B quarterly revenue (off lower-margins for sure). However, market is pricing in the company revenue dropping. SMCI quoted majority of the backlog delay to Q2 2026, which aligns with a lot of the DC buildout from Neoclouds to Mag7 customers. They expect revenue to grow 50%+ Y/Y next year, with at least $36 billion revenue, but judging from DC buildout from blowout NVDA earnings, I expect server rack companies like $DELL and SMCI to outperform Q2 2026. This is why I'm taking advantage of revenue lag delays from the current quarter and assigning a $55 PT in 6 months time. 8. Hims and Her Health ( $HIMS) - Undervalued ( $8B marketcap) Personally, I've used HIMS just for short term trading breakouts. And I've been one to not long-term hold the stock above $50. However, back at $35, it's reset most of the year's growth but grew revenue 49% Y/Y to $500m and is producing a good amount of FCF. The most under-priced narrative is the Zava acquisition. This adds 1.3M+ users to the HIMS platform and allows the company to expand to the EU market. Similar to how META acquires companies like Instagram, grows its base + monetizes, I expect HIMS to do the same with Zava + market is pricing in current est. Zava numbers. It's probably my least confident stock out of the bunch, especially leaving me with a bad taste with the CEO selling shares after leaving 👀 on SS posts back at $70. But that being said it's a great rebound opportunity to $60 in a 6 month timeframe. Hope you enjoyed my perspective. There's a lot of x at price posts, but I try to leave a more qualitative breakdown (+ part quantitative but leave out a lot of technical for easier reading) to help retail develop their own conviction and understanding. Building understanding is important to create internal valuation models yourself rather than blindly following along FinX posters + capitulating when stock prices temporarily drop. Happy to discuss more if you drop your own portfolio + concentrations.
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澄清IREN高短期持仓源于机构可转换票据套利对冲，非散户轧空。
关于 $IREN 投资者可能误解的几点：情况比“21.2%流通盘导致轧空(short squeeze)”要复杂得多。对于 IREN 而言，大量短期持仓(SI)来自可转换票据(convertible note)套利。当机构在发行后购入可转换票据时，他们会做空标的股票进行对冲。鉴于10亿美元的发行规模加上1.25亿美元的购买选择权，相应的对冲操作推高了该 SI 数值。其次，对于市值120亿美元以上的股票，如果该数值如此之高，参与者并非散户，而是机构。
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So few things $IREN investors might misunderstand: it's more nuanced than 21.2% float -> short squeeze. With IREN a lot of SI is convertible note arbitrage. When institutions acquire convertible notes after the offering, they short the underlying shares for hedging. Given the $1B offering, plus +125M purchase option, corresponding hedge inflates that SI number. Second if a number is that high with a $12B+ stock, it's not retail it's institutions.
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鲍威尔讲话料重申NBIS优于IREN，建议关注个股基本面而非宏观大盘。
杰罗姆（鲍威尔）大概会上台，宣称 $NBIS > $IREN，然后在他走向由悉尼·斯威尼（Sydney Sweeney）坐在副驾的新兰博基尼时潇洒离场（mic drop）。 市场会鼓掌欢呼，因为他说的不过是众所周知的事实。 但除此之外，我们可能会获得更多关于12月降息以及政府停摆后经济前景的见解。大盘随后的走势可谓五五开，因此除非你交易短期指数或更依赖宏观的资产，否则关注个股基本面更为重要。
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Jerome will probably go on stage, say $NBIS > $IREN, and micdrop after walking offstage to his new lambo that Sydney Sweeney is riding shotgun in. Markets will clap and cheer knowing he said something everyone knows as a fact. But that aside, we’ll probably get more insights into Dec rate cut and a view of the economy after gov blackout. It’s a coin flip direction the general markets go after, so more important to look at individual stock fundamentals unless you trade short term indexes or more macro dependent assets
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批评IREN等股缺乏基本面逻辑的“看价格”论调
只是提醒一下，关于 $IREN、$XRP、$BMNR 等“我知道很多但说不清原因，所以看一年后的价格，自行研究(DYOR)”的论调，让圈外人直翻白眼。你提到的“人们因恐惧且其为矿企而认为价格被低估”的弱点，与基本面毫无关系。我本以为会看到关于 GPU 折旧或编排(Orchestration)风险的论点，哈哈。
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Just letting you know, the “I know a lot but can’t tell you why” argument about $IREN, $XRP, $BMNR, etc. so just look at the price 1 year later DYOR, makes people outside the community roll their eyes. The weakness you mentioned that people are scared and that it’s a miner so price is undervalued has nothing to do with fundamentals. I was expecting GPU depreciation arguments or orchestration risks lol
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回应评论并探讨IREN与TSSI的投资逻辑及评级调整。
感谢你在嵌套回复中列出了所有价格，这确实节省了大量时间！我也很好奇它们的实际表现如何。 你对 $IREN 有特定的投资论点想要辩论吗？如果有人能提出令人信服的论据，我很乐意改变我的想法。 我也很乐意进一步阐述每只股票背后的逻辑，因为原帖篇幅有限，无法容纳所有解释。 我在另一条回复中分享了关于 $TSSI 和 $IREN 的内容，解释了我为何将其中一只降级为“买入”评级。
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Thanks for commenting all the prices down in your nested reply. it actually saves a lot of time! I’m curious how they all perform too. Did you have a specific thesis behind $IREN that you’d like to debate? Happy to change my mind if someone has a convincing argument. Happy to elaborate more on explanations too behind each stock, since there’s not enough room in the original post. Shared in one of the other replies about $TSSI and $IREN why I’ve downgraded the other to buy.
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IREN若做好基础设施编排具高上行，但GPU全栈执行风险剧增。
如果 $IREN 能在基础设施层面做好编排(Orchestration)，其上行空间极大；$1000亿+市值（$400股价）略显激进但有可能。垂直整合、高互联GW容量以及与 $MSFT 等超大规模云厂商的合作，使 $IREN 在 $49 时具备买入价值。然而，随着决定购买GPU，微软交易带来的执行风险已大幅上升。管理包括系统集成、软件、驱动和网络在内的完整GPU栈（$ORCL 未能做好的部分）远超传统托管(Colo)范畴。
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$IREN has extremely high upside if they get orchestration right on the infrastructure level and a $100B+ marketcap ($400) is a tad-overly ambitious but possible. Vertically integrated, high connected GW capacity, and hyperscaler deals like $MSFT make $IREN a buy at $49. However, execution risk is a much, much higher now with the Microsoft deal, now that they decided to buy GPUs. Managing the full GPU stack, including system integration, software, drivers, and networking (that $ORCL failed to do well) goes far beyond colo.
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TSM盈利是AI核心指标，超大规模云厂商建设不受NVDA财报影响。
我的观点是，$TSM 的未来盈利（forward earnings）是迄今为止人工智能交易（AI trade）最大的指标，因为它涵盖了从 $GOOGL TPU 生产到 $AMZN，以及 $NVDA、$AMD 等所有超大规模云服务商（hyperscalers），且我们已看到其盈利和利润率大幅超出预期。 即使 $NVDA 的未来营收被大幅下调（我对此表示怀疑），也不会使 $MSFT 到 $IREN、$AMZN 到 $CIFR 等公司已签订的多年度算力（compute）积压订单失效。 我们已看到 Anthropic 与 $MSFT Azure 的算力协议（这将惠及 $NBIS、$IREN 和 $CRWV 等），$GOOGL 近日建设超 400 亿美元的数据中心（此前已与 $WULF、$CIFR/FluidStack 签署托管设施（colo）协议），$NVDA 的财报不会改变超大规模云服务商的建设步伐。 但它确实对整个 AI 交易产生重大影响，并直接影响 $NVDA GPU 板块（例如重度依赖 $NVDA 的 AI 云厂商）。
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My opinion is that $TSM forward earnings was the biggest indicator of the AI trade so far since they span from all hyperscalers such as $GOOGL TPU prod to $AMZN, as well as $NVDA, $AMD, and we've already seen them blow away earnings + margins. Even if $NVDA forward revenue is quoted heavily downward (which I doubt), it won't invalidate multi-year contracted compute backlog from $MSFT to companies like $IREN or $AMZN to $CIFR made already. We're already seeing Anthropic x $MSFT compute deals with Azure today (which flows down to $NBIS, $IREN and $CRWV others), $GOOGL build out a $40B+ datacenter the other day (they've made colo deals with $WULF, $CIFR / fluidstack previously), and $NVDA earnings won't the change the hyperscaler buildout. But it does have a large impact on the overall AI trade as well + directly affect $NVDA GPU parts of the sector (eg. $NVDA heavy AI clouds).
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成长股因宏观恐慌错杀，机构逢低吸纳，是最佳买入窗口。
目前市场正目睹大多数成长股下跌。 过去5天： · Cloudflare [ $NET ]: $192.99 (-15.23%) · Rocketlab [ $RKLB ]: $42.50 (-19.35%) · Iren [ $IREN ]: $46.6 (-28.74%) · Hims [ $HIMS ]: $35.15 (-15.61%) 已失去近期涨幅。为何？ 目前我们看到机械性对冲下行，混合着类似加密市场的实时级联保证金清算。 这还混合了基于宏观的投降式抛售，包括对12月降息概率的半合理担忧、政府停摆导致的数据缺失，以及多家对冲基金发布的AI看空报告。 最重要的一点是：尽管许多个股基本面正在改善。 我们看到像： $NBIS 将ARR指引从分析师预期的$4B上调至$7-9B，本周却跌去26.85%。 我们也看到 $SNAP 在发布$4B惊喜的Perplexity交易后，吹爆营收指引，却失去了财报后的所有涨幅。 此时，我们正接近12月“圣诞老人行情”前的底部，机构正在暗池/大宗交易中买入杠杆交易者的比特币清算资金，转向$NBIS等优质股票。 如果未来增长和基本面放缓，此次下跌后的持续抛售是合理的。 然而，如果许多成长股的基本面完好，这次市场重置是自4月关税抛售以来，从$KRKNF到$ALAB的成长股最佳买入机会。 正如Robinhood [ $HOOD ]数据显示，散户在$IREN等热门股上，在$45-$50底部大量卖出，但在$MSFT交易后$80顶部买入。 散户往往在顶部追高，但在下跌后底部投降。 这是伟大的重置，而非导致熊市的持续崩盘。保证金清算后及弱势筹码向长期投资者转移，将带来新高。 话说回来：你认为目前被抛售最严重的高Beta股票是哪只？
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Markets are seeing a drop in most growth stocks right now. In the past 5 days: · Cloudflare [ $NET ]: $192.99 (-15.23%) · Rocketlab [ $RKLB ]: $42.50 (-19.35%) · Iren [ $IREN ]: $46.6 (-28.74%) · Hims [ $HIMS ]: $35.15 (-15.61%) have lost their recent gains. Why? Right now, we're seeing mechanical hedging downward, mixed with live cascading margin liquidations slightly mirroring the crypto markets. This is mixed with capitulation based on macro with semi-valid concerns from December rate cut odds, lack of data from Gov shutdown, and AI short reports from several hedge funds. The most important thing to note is that: This is despite improving fundamentals in many individual stocks. We've seen companies like: $NBIS raise ARR guidance from $7-9B from projected analyst $4B marks, and sell off 26.85% this week. and we've seen $SNAP lose any gain from post earnings, after blowout revenue guidance from a $400M surprise perplexity deal. At this point, we're nearing the bottom before the December Santa Rally, with institutions buying up leverage trader Bitcoin liquidations to quality stocks like $NBIS in dark pools/block trades. If forward growth and fundamentals were slowing, continued selling after this drop would be warranted. However, if fundamentals are in tact for many growth stock, this market-wide reset is the best buying opportunity for growth stocks from $KRKNF to $ALAB since the April tariff sell-off. As seen with Robinhood [ $HOOD ] data on popular retail stocks with $IREN, retail is heavily selling the bottom at $45-$50, but bought in at the top post $MSFT deal at $80. Retail is often the ones to chase buying at the top. But capitulate at the bottom after the drop. This is the great reset, but not a continued crash leading to a bear market. Stock post-margin liquidations and weak hands moving to long-term investors leads to new highs. That being said: what high-beta stock do you think is the most sold off right now?
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澄清全栈基础设施定义，辨析IREN与NBIS等技术层级差异。
我觉得你可能把自己搞糊涂了，我只是想澄清一下术语。你在第一条评论中说 $ORCL 不是全栈(full stack)，因为他们做了数据中心租赁(DC leasing)，而 $IREN 是全栈。 现在你从 $ORCL 转移话题，开始谈论 $IREN。 我们只是在争论“全栈”服务提供的语义定义。如果你想论证 $IREN 不是全栈，而是做垂直整合的基础设施，那部分也是成立的。 我提到的 $IREN + 软件编排，是指调度、监控分配、故障恢复、集群配置(cluster prov)、容器运行时(container runtime)等，这些是为 $MSFT 提供算力所需的 GPU 编排。 集群编排 + 配置层 + 购买 GPU 而不仅仅是托管机房(colo)，我认为这就是你提到的全栈基础设施。 如果你想再深入一步，$NBIS $CRWV 做的是模型 API、推理运行时（平台/运行时层），比如 $NBIS 的代币工厂(token factory)，这是更深层次的全栈服务，所以 $IREN 确实不算全栈。 这只是在争论全栈之上叠加更多软件的语义问题。如果你接受这个论点，那么对于 $IREN 来说确实如此，且因公司而异。
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I think you might be confusing yourself and I'm just trying to clarify the terms. You were saying $ORCL is not full stack because they did DC leasing and $IREN is full stack in your first comment. Now you're shifting from $ORCL and talking about $IREN. And we're just going into semantic definition on full-stack offerings and if you wanted to argue $IREN is not full stack but does vertically integrated infrastructure, then that's partially valid too. With $IREN + software orchestration I was referring to scheduling, monitoring allocation, fault recoveriy, cluster prov, container rutime, etc for GPU orchestation needed to deliver compute to $MSFT. Cluster orchestration +provisioning layer + buying GPUs rather than just colo I'd argue is full-stack infrastructure as you mentioned. If you wanted to go one-step deeper that $NBIS $CRWV does it's model APis, inference runetimes, (platform/runtime layer) like $NBIS token factory which is a deeper full-stack offering, so $IREN is not full-stack sure. This is just arguing semantics of more software on top of full-stack and if you go with that argument, sure with $IREN and it differs company-to-company.
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澄清AI算力租赁中软件编排对利润率及自由现金流的关键作用。
将全栈定义为GPU之上的软件层是正确的，因此$ORCL符合这一标准。你之前混淆了垂直整合和全栈服务，这是两个截然不同的概念。 这是一个非常细微的差别，在讨论$NBIS和$CRWV时，你混淆了“纯GPU租赁”与包含编排能力的收入/利润率。 让我再次澄清： 对于$NBIS和$CRWV，人们说其收入来自纯GPU租赁是一种过度简化。以$NBIS为例，它包含一个优化GPU利用率和整体效率的管理软件栈，这就是为什么他们相比$IREN在与$MSFT的交易中获得了更好的价格/兆瓦(MW)优势。这不仅仅是任何人都能做的纯GPU租赁。 再次强调，$CRWV表示软件是其护城河，正是软件将$NBIS和$CRWV的利润率与$ORCL等市场其余部分区分开来（后者毛利率极低，例如14%）。 你可以通过购买GPU并出租来获得极高的营收数字，但如果不能转化为自由现金流(FCF)和利润，那就毫无意义。而这正是通过增加内部运营支出(opex)进行软件编排发挥作用的地方。
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That's a correct with full-stack as software as a layer on top of GPUs, so $ORCL would fit that mark. Earlier you were conflating vertically integrated and full-stack offering, which are two distinct terms. This is a very nuanced, with $NBIS, $CRWV you're confusing you're confusing "straight GPU leases" and revenue/margins + orchestration. Let me clarify again: For $NBIS, $CRWV, it's a oversimplification when people say it comes from straight GPU leases. When you use $NBIS for example, it includes a managed sfotware stack that optimizes GPU utilization and overall efficiency, which is why they got a better deal/MW compared to $IREN with $MSFT. It's not just straight GPU leases that anyone can do. Again $CRWV said software was their moat, it's what differentiates margins between $NBIS | $CRWV, and the rest of the market like $ORCL (which had incredibly low gross margins, eg. 14%). You can have the extremely high revenue numbers just by buying GPUs and leasing them out, but if it doesn't convert to FCF, profit, it doesn't mean anything. And that's where increasing internal opex with software orchestration comes in.
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澄清AI云全栈与裸金属区别，指出$IREN因执行风险派发股息。
我觉得你有点混淆了这些术语，让我澄清一下。 全栈服务(Full stack offering) = AI云 $NBIS $IREN $CRWV 裸金属(Bare Metal) = $CIFR, $WULF 类型的服务（AWS将自家GPU接入 $CIFR） $IREN 在决定为 $MSFT 交易购买数十亿美元GPU时，转向提供全栈AI云服务。这导致了因执行风险而产生的特别股息(DG)。 $IREN 在财报电话会上明确表示，他们之所以做全栈（包括GPU采购+软件编排），是因为“更高的收入潜力和更强的回报”。 关于你提到的软件编排，它主要用于改善内部运营支出(opex)和利润率，但在面向客户的差异化方面略有优势。 与电力相比，GPU利用率和编排对最终利润率的影响巨大，我在之前的帖子中做过定量分析。 对于为 $NBIS 等支付裸金属服务的客户，他们购买的不仅是原始硬件，而是经过优化的软硬件堆栈。
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So think you're confusing the terms a bit, let me clarify. Full stack offering = AI Cloud $NBIS $IREN $CRWV Bare Metal = $CIFR, $WULF type offerings (AWS plugs in their own GPUs into $CIFR) $IREN is pivoted to doing a full stack offering AI cloud when they decided to buy billions in GPU for the $MSFT deal. This is what led to the DG due to execution risk. $IREN on their earnings call said it themselves that they did full-stack (including GPU purchases + software orchestration) due to "higher revenue potential and stronger returns" For software orchestration that you mentioned, it's mainly for improving internal opex and margins, but is a slight advantage for customer facing differentiators. GPU utilization and orchestration plays an incredible difference in terms of final margins, when comparing to power and I did a quantitative breakdown in an earlier post. For customers that pay for bare metal for $NBIS and others, they are paying for an optimized hardware and software stack, not just raw hardware.
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因全栈执行风险高且难超巨头，作者做空IREN。
我不会将全栈(Full-stack)和垂直整合(Vertically integrated)混为一谈，我在谈论 $ORCL 时措辞非常精确。 $NBIS 采用混合模式以扩大利润率。 $IREN 的主要问题在于他们正在做全栈业务，其中软件编排(Software orchestration)是一个令人难以置信且被误解的护城河，但这将执行风险放大了数个数量级。 如果你做对了，你将拥有行业内最高的利润率/收入。但 $CRWV 花了数年和数十亿美元通过收购才做对，其CEO在电话会议上表示软件是他们的护城河。 很难让市场相信，$IREN 作为一个全新转型进入高性能计算(HPC) AI 云的公司，其全栈能力会优于 $CRWV 花数年构建的能力，甚至优于市值5000多亿美元的 $ORCL 至今未能做到的程度。这就是导致我做空(DG) $IREN 的持续执行风险。 但当然，如果他们能精准做到（这很难），那么其回报潜力将极其巨大。
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I don't use full-stack and vertically integrated interchangeably, my wording is very precise when I talk about $ORCL. $NBIS does mixed to expand margins. The main issue with $IREN is that they're doing full-stack where software orchestration is an incredible and misunderstood moat and it increases execution risk by magnitudes. If you get it right you have the highest margins/revenue in the industry. But $CRWV spent years and billions in acquisitions to get it right and the CEO said on call that software was their moat. It's hard to convince the market that $IREN, which is doing a brand new pivot into HPC AI cloud, will have better full-stack that $CRWV spent years building and that $ORCL a $500B+ company failed ot do so far. This is the lingering execution risk that led me to DG $IREN. But of course if they get it spot-on (which is difficult), then it has incredibly high return potential.
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高贝塔资产遭抛售属市场重置，基本面改善应耐心持有。
从 $RKLB、$HOOD、$BTC（现89k）、$HIMS 等所有高贝塔/“风险”/成长型资产都在被无情抛售。尽管基本面全面改善，但这源于连环保证金清算和投降式抛售（基于部分合理的担忧）后的良好重置。以 $IREN 为例，散户仅因 Robinhood 数据就在股价创新低时抛售。但散户通常是在 $MSFT 交易后 $80 高点买入，而在崩盘后 $45 低位最后卖出。此时只需关注新周期、降息、期权到期，并耐心等待，因为基本面正在全面改善。如果盈利和远期收入放缓，我会大幅减仓（但事实并非如此，我们看到的是创纪录的增长）。
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Every high beta/“risk”/growth asset from $RKLB, $HOOD, $BTC (89k now), $HIMS is being obliterated. It’s a great reset from cascading margin liquidations and capitulation (based on semi-valid concerns) despite seeing improving fundamentals across the board. $IREN retail is selling off for example just based on Robinhood data even while stock is at new lows. But retail is typically the one to buy at the highest point $80 post $MSFT deal and and last to sell eg. $45 post crash. At this point it’s just new cycles, rate cut, option expirations, and waiting since fundamentals are improving across the board. If earnings were slowing and forward revenue was slowing, I would be selling well (but it’s not, we’re seeing record growth)
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市场急跌时，$NBIS因隔离风险且基础稳固，具最大上行潜力。
感谢分享！在市场急跌、许多高贝塔（High Beta）成长资产下跌30%至50%之际，正是重新配置到基础稳固甚至得到强化的股票的时机。在AI数据中心领域，$NBIS 拥有最不对称的上行空间。尽管信用收缩或GPU执行风险影响了 $IREN 和 $CRWV 等新型云（Neo-cloud）企业，但 NBIS 相对隔离于这些担忧之外。
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Thanks for sharing! 市場急落で多くの高ベータ成長資産が30〜50%下落している今、基礎が揺らがずむしろ強化された銘柄へ再配置する局面。AIデータセンター分野で最も非対称な上昇余地を持つのは $NBIS 。 信用収縮やGPU実行リスクで $IREN $CRWV などのネオクラウド企業が影響を受けた一方、NBIS はその懸念から相対的に隔離されている。
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对比CIFR与NBIS，认为CIFR风险更低但上行空间有限。
$CIFR 实际上是我下一个最看好的新云(Neocloud)板块标的。 我之前做过一个梯队排名，$NBIS 是 S+ 级，$CIFR 是 S 级。 但这里有个细微差别，很多人可能不知道： Nebius 捕获了 AI 云业务的整个价值链。$IREN 在其财报电话会议中明确表示，他们之所以选择与 $MSFT 进行全栈合作，是因为“更高的收入潜力和更强的回报”，同时承担了编排、软件、折旧以及 GPU 采购，而非仅做数据中心(Colo)。 正如你所说，$CIFR 因为 AWS、$GOOGL 以及 Secure 而降低了风险，这也是我喜欢这个标的的原因。通过做数据中心(Colo)，他们避免了购买和管理 GPU 集群，这也是我下调 $IREN 评级的原因，因为 $IREN 面临一个新的风险因素，而 $NBIS 没有，且此前也不存在。 超大规模客户在空间、电力和冷却方面的高利润率、类年金收入。它是该板块中风险调整后风险最低的股票之一。 然而，其上行空间远不如其他标的。特别是当你看到租赁（例如 10-15 年）时，收入爬坡要慢得多，上行空间也远小于像 $NBIS 这样的全栈纯新云标的。
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$CIFR is actually next favorite Neocloud sector pick. I made a tierlist earlier and $NBIS was S+ and $CIFR was S. But here's the difference and nuance people might not know: Nebius captures the entire value chain of the AI cloud business. $IREN said it themselves in their ER call that they did full-stack with $MSFT because of to "higher revenue potential and stronger returns", while taking on orchestration, software, and deprecation with GPUs purchases vs. colo. $CIFR is de-risked as you mentioned because of AWS, $GOOGL and finally secure, which is why I love the pick. Doing colo, they avoid purchasing/managing GPU fleets, which is why I downgraded $IREN due to a new risk factor that isn't quite present with $NBIS and wasn't there before. There's high-margin, annuity-like revenue for space, power, and cooling for hyperscales. It's one of the lowest-risk adjusted stocks in the sector. However, upside is not anywhere as high. Especially when you look at leases (eg. 10Y-15Y) revenue ramp is a lot slower, and upside is a lot less compared to full-stack pure Neoclouds like $NBIS.
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Nebius是纯新云AI基建标的，无债务与执行风险，具极高非对称上行潜力。
Nebius [ $NBIS ] 现价 $86.69，是剩余最纯粹的“新云”(Neocloud) 和 AI 基础设施非对称性机会。 这是收入最高的、未受 $CIFR | $WULF 及数据中心(Colo) 提供商影响的 Neocloud 标的，且没有以下问题： - 不像 $IREN、$ORCL 那样面临全栈执行带来的巨大不确定性。 - 不像 $CRWV、$APLD 等那样背负高额利息债务。 - 不像 $CLSK、$BITF、$WYFI、$SLNH 等那样在超大规模超大规模云服务商(Hyperscaler) 合同上存在收入不确定性。 在 AI 板块因恐惧情绪蔓延而普遍下跌后： Nebius 依然推进：明年年化经常性收入(ARR) 中值为 $80 亿，现金超 $47 亿，企业客户多元化（包括 $META、$MSFT、$ACN、$SHOP、政府机构），高增长投资组合公司，以及经过验证的高利润率全栈业务。 鉴于需求极度旺盛、执行不确定性（利润率）以及与当前困扰市场的 OpenAI 合同依赖和信贷收紧问题相隔离： 在非对称上行潜力方面，没有任何标的能接近 Nebius。 你只需等待公司的执行落地。
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Nebius [ $NBIS ] at $86.69 is the purest Neocloud and AI-infra asymmetry left. This is the highest revenue Neocloud untouched by $CIFR | $WULF and colo providers that has no: - Plaguing uncertainty that $IREN, $ORCL face from full-stack execution. - High interest debt that $CRWV, $APLD, and others face. - Revenue uncertainty at scale with Hyperscaler contracts that $CLSK, $BITF, $WYFI, $SLNH, and others lack. After the market-wide drop with the AI sector overrun by fear: Nebius is going forward with: $8B midpoint ARR next year, $4.7B+ in cash, diversification in enterprise clients from ( $META, $MSFT, $ACN, $SHOP, Governments), hyper-growth portfolio companies, and a proven full-stack high-margin business. With extreme demand, execution uncertainty (margins), and isolation from current issues plaguing the markets with OpenAI contract dependency and credit tightening: Nothing even comes close to Nebius in terms of asymmetrical upside. You are simply just waiting for company execution.
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NBIS股价脱离基本面，宏观抛售属误杀，当前估值极具吸引力。
我可以99.9%地向你保证，$NBIS 80亿美元年度经常性收入(ARR)的预期在几个月前并未被计入股价，分析师/市场当时的预期约为20亿美元（约2-3个月前）。 而现在我们的交易价格低于$MSFT 交易宣布后的水平（约90-100美元）。 考虑到190亿美元的交易和收入爬坡，像Northland这样的看多机构分析师曾预测40亿美元ARR。看多派FinX（包括我自己）随着明年下半年另一笔超大规模云厂商交易的达成，将预期上调至60亿-70亿美元。 随后宣布80亿美元中位ARR至90亿美元，产能达2.5 GW（人们一直说$IREN 在2.8-~3.2 GW方面拥有巨大护城河），以及在同一季度意外宣布与$META 的交易（叠加$MSFT 交易），完全是个惊喜。 然而，财报后整体下跌26%是宏观因素导致的无差别抛售，并非因为上述第1、2、3、4点关于个股预期的原因。 重点是$NBIS 股价目前完全脱离了基本面，这次抛售简直是个笑话。
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I can 99.9% assure you that $NBIS $8B ARR expectations were not priced in months ago, analysts/markets were expecting around $2B ARR (~2-3 months ago). And now we're trading at lower levels than after the $MSFT deal was announced (~ $90-$100). Factoring in the 19B deal and revenue ramp, bull-case institutional analysts like Northland were projected $4B ARR. Bull case FinX (including myself) went upward to $6B-$7B with another hyperscaler deal later next year. Then announcing $8B midpoint ARR to $9B, capacity to 2.5 GW (which people kept saying $IREN was had a huge moat for 2.8-~3.2 GW), and an unexpected $META deal the same quarter as $MSFT on top was a complete surprise. However, the broader -26% drop after earnings was macro and indiscriminate sell-off, not because of points #1, #2, #3, and #4 for individual stock projections. The point was $NBIS stock price is completely detached from fundamentals right now and the sell-off was a joke.
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NBIS暴跌后机构逆势增持，基本面强劲，维持$400目标价。
Nebius ($NBIS) 上月暴跌 -33.61%，市值跌至 210 亿美元。 尽管如此，最新的 13F 文件数据显示 $NBIS 的机构持股比例上升： · 38.36% → 44.6% 🟢 (+6.24%) Fintel 的数据则更接近 ~46.3%。 Nebius 是一家市值 210 亿美元的全栈新云(Neocloud)服务商： · 远期年度经常性收入(Forward ARR) 达 70-90 亿美元（同比增长 700%+），EBIT 利润率 30%，为 $MSFT Azure、$META | 从 Cursor 到 Shopify 的企业 | 以及政府提供动力。 · 现金超 47 亿美元，投资组合公司净资产价值(NAV) 超 70 亿美元，这些公司支撑着 Cloudflare、Tiktok、Tesla、Netflix 和 Anthropic。 正如上月所料，机构开始意识到这种一代人一次的增长机遇，因为新云(Neocloud)是 AI 数据中心建设及 Mag7 AI 算力的核心。 Nebius 的机构持股比例一直较低 (<28%)，这源于其非典型的 IPO 方式。对于高价值公司，机构持股通常在 60-80% 之间。 因此，我们看到机械性抛压 + 散户投降 + 保证金清算 -> 通过暗池/大宗交易 -> 机构在低位吸筹。 这种吸筹模式并未改变，我们之前在 Robinhood (S-st) 上也见过同样的故事，其机构持股现已达 74.62%，此前股价从 $20 涨至 $150。 非理性的恐惧和投降是机构从散户手中吸筹的方式。近期的下跌是股价变化，而非基本面恶化。$NBIS 的 1 年目标价仍为 $400。 当远期增长支撑市值预测时，这只是时间和执行力的问题。
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Nebius ( $NBIS ) crashed -33.61% last month, falling to a $21B market cap. Despite this, new 13F filing data shows $NBIS institutional ownership increase: · 38.36% → 44.6% 🟢 (+6.24%) with Fintel placing it closer to ~46.3%. Nebius is a $21B MC full-stack Neocloud with: · $7-9B forward ARR (700%+ Y/Y), 30% EBIT margins, powering $MSFT Azure, $META | enterprises from Cursor to Shopify | and Governments. · $4.7B+ Cash, $7B+ NAV in portfolio companies that power Cloudflare, Tiktok, Tesla, Netflix and Antrophic. As expected from last month, institutions are starting to realize this once-a-generation growth, as Neoclouds are the center of the AI DC buildout and Mag7 AI compute. The institutional ownership of Nebius was always low <28%, due to how their unusual IPO. With high-value companies, ownership typically ranges from 60-80%. So, we're seeing mechanical flows down + retail capitulation + margin liquidation- > dark pools/block trades -> for institutions to accumulate at lower prices. This type of accumulation pattern has not changed and we've seen this same story before with Robinhood ( S-st ), now at 74.62% ownership, before their rally from $20 to $150. Irrational fear and capitulation is how institutions accumulate off shareholders. The recent drop is a change in stock price, not in fundamentals. The 1Y price target on $NBIS remains $400. When forward growth backs up any market cap projections, it’s a matter of time and execution.
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澄清研究框架，强调信贷与债务风险对板块的影响。
两件事： - 阅读时最好越过第一句继续往下看 - 隔一个交易日再看帖子，百分比数据会发生变化。 我尊重你的专注，但你正在聚焦于一个无人进行的直接对比。这确实是一篇长文，大多数人可能会跳过正文直接看评论，但文中所做的唯一直接对比是： - NeoClouds（新云厂商）与Mag7（科技七巨头）的合同 - NeoClouds与资产负债表健康的公司 - 未与OpenAI直接签约的NeoClouds 所以再次帮你梳理一下，整篇文章的核心是关于信贷市场、债务结构、OpenAI资本支出悬顶，以及影响整个板块的生态系统风险。 使用1周到1个月的时间框架是为了展示NeoClouds从何处下跌（例如$IREN在微软交易后），以反映板块在盘前的整体下跌。使用隔一个交易日NeoClouds从盘前跌幅中恢复后的不同价格，并不会改变或有利于该论点。 阅读时最好越过第一句（我也持有$IREN）
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So two things: - It helps to read past the first sentence - percentages change when you look at a post a trading day later. I respect your dedication, but you’re zeroing in on a direct comparison nobody is making. It’s a long post for sure and most would just skip it and go to comments but the only direct comparisons made were - neoclouds with mag7 contracts - neoclouds with healthy balance sheets - neoclouds that don’t directly have contracts with OpenAI. So just to help you again, the whole post was about credit markets, debt structure, OpenAI capex overhang, and ecosystem risk affecting the whole sector. Using 1W to 1M timeframe is to show levels neoclouds dropped from (eg. $IREN after MSFT deal) for a sector wide drop from premarket. Using different prices a trading fay later when neoclouds recovered from premarket doesn’t change or favor the thesis. It helps to read past the first sentence (I own $IREN too)
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指出AI处理海量13F文件存在局限，曾尝试但结果出错。
@number1invest_ @grok 让 Grok 处理通过审查每一份 13F 文件(13F Filing)来进行的大量数据计算(13F filing)可能太多了。我记得在另一个帖子中要求它只输出一个结果，但它搞错了。 https://t.co/rP8XZNQMpX
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@number1invest_ @grok there's probably too much number crunching by reviewing every single 13F filing for Grok to handle. I remember asking it one single output in another thread but they go it wrong. https://t.co/rP8XZNQMpX
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驳斥AI板块恐慌，指出托管商受Mag7支持，是错杀买入机会。
这是$CRWV、$ORCL的OpenAI效应。市场在恐惧时是非理性的，将整个板块视为单一实体，而忽视了细微差别： GPU折旧——Burry的做空论点（硬件快速过时）： $CIFR、$WULF等完全不受影响，因为它们不购买GPU，而是做数据中心托管(Colo)。 信用风险——收紧使得所有资本密集型的AI建设成本更高且更脆弱。 $NBIS等...是孤立的（资产负债表强劲，可转换债务）。 未来收入泡沫，OpenAI没有足够的... $IREN、$NBIS、$CIFR、$WULF完全不受影响，因为它们由Mag7支持，而非OpenAI。 对某些人来说，这是令人发笑的买入机会。
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It's the $CRWV, $ORCL OpenAI Effect. Markets are irrational during fear and views the sector as a single entity vs. seeing the nuances: GPU Deprecation - Burry Short Thesis (rapid hardware obsolescence): $CIFR, $WULF, etc. Literally not affected since they don't buy GPUs and do colo. Credit Risk - tightening makes all capital-intensive AI buildouts more expensive and fragile. $NBIS and others... isolated (Strong balance sheet, convertible debt). Future Revenue Bubble with OpenAI not having enough $IREN, $NBIS, $CIFR, $WULF literally not affected since they're backed by Mag7, not OpenAI. Hilarious buying opportunity for some.
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IREN转全栈致风险激增，NBIS/CIFR基本面稳健却被板块性做空。
谢谢，是的，我之前做分级列表时将 $IREN 列为 S 级，但他们因试图通过购买数十亿 GPU 与 $CRWV 在全栈领域竞争而被大幅降级。许多 $IREN 持有者争论称托管(Colo)最盈利，但在 $IREN 的财报电话会上，他们明确表示因“更高的收入潜力和更强的回报”而购买 GPU 并从事全栈业务。构建软件层比人们想象的要难得多，$IREN 的执行风险急剧上升。与此同时，$NBIS 和 $CRWV 已经掌握了这一环节（根据其白皮书，$NBIS 胜过 $CRWV），但 Coreweave 在利息债务和 OpenAI 风波中搞砸了。不幸的是，我们看到整个板块被做空，尽管存在许多细微差别，例如 $CIFR 不受 GPU 贬值论点的影响。或者 $NBIS 拥有超过 5 年的 Mag7 及企业客户、强劲的资产负债表，且不受 $ORCL 及信贷收紧引发的 AI 泡沫 OpenAI 风波影响。
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Thanks, yeah I had $IREN as S tier when I did my tierlist earlier but they got downgraded a lot because they ended up trying to compete vs $CRWV in the full-stack by buying billions in GPUs. A lot of IREN holders were arguing colo was most profitable, but in $IREN's earnings call, they literally said they were buying GPUs and doing the full-stack due to "higher revenue potential and stronger returns". It's much, much harder building out the software layer than people think and the execution risk for IREN skyrocketed immensely. Meanwhile $NBIS and $CRWV already has that nailed down ( $NBIS wins vs. $CRWV per their whitepaper) but Coreweave messed up with interest debt + OpenAI drama. Unfortunately we're seeing a whole sector short despite many of the nuances eg. $CIFR not being affected by GPU depreciation arguments. Or $NBIS having Mag7 + enterprise customers over 5Y periods + strong balance sheet and not affected by AI bubble OpenAI fiasco with $ORCL + credit tightening.
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新云生态分化，NBIS领先，IREN执行存疑，市场尚未完全定价。
新云(Neocloud)并非赢家通吃，而是一个完整的生态系统，但并非所有公司都能成为AWS。 我们看到$NBIS、$IREN、$CRWV和$ORCL在真正的“新云”领域竞争，这是一场最有利可图的全栈竞赛，旨在成为Azure/AWS。它们进行垂直整合、建设容量、购买GPU并进行编排，一些孵化企业也加入了竞争。 目前$NBIS是明确的赢家，拥有超大规模云厂商+企业客户+良好的资产负债表，只是时间问题；$CRWV深陷利息债务；$ORCL建设失败，且OpenAI是其最大且风险最高的积压订单。$IREN前景看好，但执行层面存在最大问号，因为其路径不同于人们预期的$CIFR模式，其容量和软件编排比人们预期的难得多（看看$ORCL和$CRWV在软件收购上花费的数十亿美元）。 然后是$CIFR、$WULF、矿工等，它们利用现有容量进行更安全的托管机房(Colo)业务，而像Amazon这样的超大规模云厂商则插入自己的GPU。我仍将其归为新云，但也许该单独分类了，不过它们不受Burry关于2年GPU淘汰论虚假言论的影响。 其余公司正在向高性能计算(HPC)转型，承诺未来X量的容量，但在信贷收紧背景下，为此转型融资越来越难。 随着近期一系列财报的发布，我们开始看到新兴赢家，这是好事。市场尚未定价，但只是时间问题。
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Neocloud isn't winner takes all, it's a whole ecosystem but not everything can become AWS. We're seeing $NBIS, $IREN, $CRWV, and $ORCL compete in the true "Neocloud", most profitable full stack race to become Azure/AWS. Doing vertical integration, building capacity, buying GPUs, and doing orchestration, and some incubants entering the race. So far $NBIS is the clear winner with hyperscalers + enterprises + good balance sheet in a matter of time, $CRWV is swamped with interest debt, $ORCL failed buildout so far and OpenAI as their biggest + risky backlog. $IREN is promising but they have the biggest question mark for execution since it's not the original approach like $CIFR people were expecting with their capacity and software orchestration is much harder than people expect (looking at $ORCL then $CRWV spending billions on software aqusitions). Then there's $CIFR, $WULF, miners, etc and others do safer colo with their existing capacity while hyperscalers like Amazon plugs in their own GPUs. I still put them as a Neocloud but I guess it's time to make a separate category, but these aren't as affected by Burry's false comments about 2Y GPU deprecation lol. And then we have the rest... undergoing the pivot to HPC, with X amount of future capacity promised and this is becoming increasingly difficult to raise money for this change from credit tightening. It's a good thing that we're starting to see emerging winners after the series of recent earnings. Market hasn't priced this in yet but it's a matter of time.
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AI股因信贷收紧恐慌抛售，建议转向有Mag7合同且低债的新云龙头。
我们正目睹 AI + 数据中心(DC) 股票实时崩盘，$IREN 本周下跌 37.88%，$NBIS 本月下跌 35.27%。 恐慌源于信贷收紧、高息债务、OpenAI 传染效应、宏观因素，以及最重要的：非理性恐惧。 以下是实时发生的情况： 1. 信贷收紧 - 像 $APLD 这样的公司未能成功发行债券（认购不足），最终发行了 23.5 亿美元的高收益债务融资——彭博社 11 月 14 日报道。债券以 97 美分的价格折价出售，收益率约为 10%。 该债券交易的风险主要与 Applied Digital 对 $CRWV 的依赖有关，后者占其合同收入的大部分。随着建设阶段机构关注度增加（例如 Burry 关于 GPU 折旧的做空报告），数据中心更难筹集资金。 融资条件收紧影响了整个通过发行债务为自身建设融资的生态系统。 2. 高息债务 - 由于信贷收紧，$CRWV 为扩张而承担的劣质债务导致每年超过 10 亿美元的损失。这侵蚀了利润率和自由现金流(FCF)。 同样，$APLD 和其他以不良收益率筹集资金的公司也面临同样的未来问题，我们看到相关公司因风险管理而出售。 3. OpenAI 承诺的 1 万亿美元+ 资金没有余额支撑 - OpenAI 承诺超过 1 万亿美元的资本支出(capex)，其中 224 亿美元+ 流向 $CRWV，3000 亿美元+ 流向 $ORCL，他们正在为此建设产能。由于 OpenAI 手头没有余额并采取避险策略，市场现在对这些承诺持怀疑态度。 现在，我们看到这种建设从 Coreweave 等公司向下传染到 $CORZ 和 $APLD，这些公司在建设期间可能依赖 $CRWV 的未来收入。 4. $CRWV 是 AI 基础设施（以及部分 $ORCL）的行业领导者。当行业领导者抛售时，通常其他公司会跟随。 5. 12 月降息概率下降： 除了高息债务外，我们看到 12 月降息概率降至约 53% 的抛硬币水平。较高的利率使得像 $CRWV 这样背负利息债务的公司再融资以增强 FCF 变得困难。 _ 细微差别与重新定位： 我们看到全面抛售。然而，Mag7（$META, $GOOGL, $AMZN, $MSFT）的资本支出和合同已确认，且盈利能力极强。 有一种简单的方法可以安全重新定位，以避免未来收入增长 + 债务周期的问题。 1. 配置与 Mag7 有合同可见性的新云(Neoclouds)： - $NBIS - 190 亿美元 $MSFT 交易，30 亿美元来自 $META，广泛的企业支持 - $CIFR - 55 亿美元与 $AMZN 的 Colo 交易，30 亿美元与 $GOOGL 的交易 - $WULF - 37 亿美元+ 与 $GOOGL 的交易等。 - $IREN - 90 亿美元与 $MSFT 的交易 我们可能会看到更多像 $SLNH, $CLSK 等投机性容量公司下跌，并整合到具有可见企业合同（未来收入下行风险低）的新云中。 2. 配置无/极低息债务且资产负债表强劲的新云： 像 $NBIS 这样的公司因拥有 47.9 亿美元的可转换票据现金及现金等价物，而与当前信贷市场波动隔离。或者像 $CIFR 这样拥有 12 亿美元现金的公司。 3. 避免与 OpenAI 有直接合同而非 Mag7 的公司。 _ 新云是 Mag7 AI 算力的骨干。这一论点没有改变，我们可能会看到一些规模达到 1000 亿美元+ 的公司成为下一个 AWS。 然而，我们看到由 $CRWV, $ORCL 和 OpenAI + 信贷收紧（部分由于 Burry 关于 GPU 折旧的错误机构做空报告）引起的广泛、不分青红皂白的抛售。 对于像 $NBIS 这样拥有 70-90 亿美元远期年度经常性收入(ARR) 和极强资产负债表的公司，这种抛售完全不合理。但对于其他投机性公司，这是一次必要的修正。 一句好话是“散户最后卖出，最后买回”。 如果你认为你可以卖出并在两周后回来，错过抛售后的一个或两个巨大反弹日可能会让你失去大部分恢复收益。 机构可能正在通过暗池/大宗交易购买更好的名字，例如 $NBIS，在这些清洗和保证金清算之后。我们还看到机构所有权从 38%-> 43-46%，尽管股价下跌。 利用这次机会购买好名字，并持有度过这些波动时期。 （该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）: 13F 新云申报的机构流向评估： · Nebius ( $NBIS ): 🟢 强烈正面 (7/10) · WULF ( $WULF ): 🟢 高度正面 (8.5/10) · IREN ( $IREN ): 🔴 非常负面 (3/10) · CIFR ( $CIFR ): 🟢 高度正面 (8.0/10) · Coreweave ( $CRWV ): 🟡 中性 (5.5/10) · Cleanspark ( $CLSK ): 🟢 高度正面 (9.0/10) _ TLDR 摘要更新： $NBIS · 机构所有权整体定量增长强劲，由坚实的长期机构买家以及量化基金和对冲基金的高活跃度驱动。 $WULF · 机构基础结构稳定且安全，以 Vanguard 和 BlackRock 等大型纯多头资产管理人为特征，他们对股票持有高信念。 $IREN · 所有权由高频交易员、做市商和量化基金（例如 Jane Street, Citadel）主导。这种结构被视为负面，因为它表明缺乏稳定的短期持有压力和长期机构缺乏信念。 $CIFR · 优秀的机构设置，以纳入主要指数（被动需求）和主动基金的强烈信念购买为标志，Alyeska 的大幅增持尤为突出。 $CRWV · 高交易量表明市场兴趣浓厚，但所有权目前高度集中，做市商存在显著，导致中性评分，暗示流向的风险/回报平衡。 $CLSK · 被认为是该组中最好的机构结构，结合了广泛支持的被动指数纳入和激进的、高信念的主动积累，表明定性风险最低。 _ 评论： 例如，“看多 - Jane Street + Citadel 拥有 x 的 $IREN ”（提示：这不是正面的）。尤其是当长期持有者如 FMR (Fidelity)：212 万股，大幅削减持仓时。 基金类型很重要，例如： 被动（最正面） Vanguard, BlackRock 指数, State Street, Geode 等 多头（正面） Fidelity, T. Rowe, Wellington, BIT 等 对冲基金（中性到正面） Alyeska, Coatue, Millennium 等 量化/做市商（负面） Jane Street, Citadel, Susquehanna, SIG, Two Sigma 等 这是一个主观框架，用于仅从本季度评分流向有多正面（而非整体所有权）。
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We're seeing a live crash in AI + DC stocks right now with $IREN down 37.88% this week to $NBIS down 35.27% this month. Panic stems from Credit Tightening, High Interest Debt, OpenAI contagion, Macro, and most importantly: Irrational Fear. Here's what happening real time: 1. Credit Tightening - Companies like $APLD failed to sell bonds (under subscribed) and ended up issuing $2.35B in high yield debt offerings - Bloomberg Nov 14th. The bonds were sold at 97 cents on the dollar, a significant discount, with a yield of approximately 10%. The bond deal's risk is primarily tied to Applied Digital's reliance on $CRWV, which accounts for a substantial portion of its contracted earnings. More institutional cation (eg. Burry short report on GPU depreciation) around the buildout makes it harder for DC's to raise funds. Tightening funding conditions affect the entire ecosystem that issue debt to fund their own buildout. 2. High Interest Debt - Due to credit tightening, bad debt, which $CRWV has to fund expansion, causes $1B+ in losses a year. This cuts into margins and FCF. Likewise, $APLD and others that raise funds with bad yields face the same future issues and we're seeing a selloff in related companies for risk-management. 3. $1T+ in OpenAI promised funding without balances - Over $1 trillion+ in capex was promised by OpenAI going to $22.4B+ $CRWV and $300B+ to $ORCL, which they are building capacity for. The market is now skeptical of these promises from OpenAI due to not having the balances on hand and taking a risk-off approach. And now we're seeing contagion on that buildout from companies like Coreweave spread down to $CORZ and $APLD during this buildout that might rely on $CRWV for future revenue. 4. $CRWV is a sector leaders of AI infrastructure (and partially $ORCL). When the sector leader sell-off, usually others follow suit. 5. Rate Cut odds in December Fall: On top of the high interest debt, we're seeing rate cut odds in December drop to a coinflip ~53%. Having higher interest rates make it trouble for interest-debt burdened companies like $CRWV to refinance for stronger FCF. _ THE NUANCE and Repositioning: We're seeing a broad sell-off across the board. However, Capex and contracts from Mag7 ( $META, $GOOGL, $AMZN, $MSFT ) are confirmed with their extreme profitability. There's an easy way to safely reposition to avoid issues with future revenue growth + debt cycles. 1. Position into Neoclouds with contract visibility with Mag7: - $NBIS - $19B $MSFT deal, $3B from $META, broad enterprise support - $CIFR - $5.5B Colo deal with $AMZN, $3B deal with $GOOGL - $WULF - $3.7B+ deals with $GOOGL and more. - $IREN - $9B deal with $MSFT We will likely see more capacity speculative companies like $SLNH, $CLSK, and others fall off and consolidation into Neoclouds with visible enterprise contract (low downside risk of future revenue). 2. Position into Neoclouds with no/extremely low interest debt and high balance sheets: Companies like $NBIS are isolated from current credit market volatility as they have $4.79 billion in cash and cash equivalents from convertible notes. Or companies like $CIFR with $1.2B in cash. 3. Avoid companies with direct contracts with OpenAI that's not Mag7. _ Neoclouds are the backbone of Mag7 AI compute. This thesis has not changed and we'll likely see some scale to $100B+ companies in the future as the next AWS. However, we're seeing a widespread, indiscriminate sell-off caused by $CRWV, $ORCL, and OpenAI + credit tightening (partially due to incorrect institutional short reports from Burry on GPU depreciation). These types of sell-offs are completely not warranted for companies like $NBIS with $7-9B forward ARR and extremely strong balance sheets. But for other speculative companies, it's a well-needed correction. A good quote is “retail is last to sell, last to buy back”. If you think you can sell and come back two weeks later, missing one or two huge rebound days after a selloff can cost you most of the recovery gains. Institutions are probably buying the better names right now eg. $NBIS through dark pools/block trades now after these types of washouts and margin liquidations. We've also seen institutional ownership go from 38%-> 43-46% despite share prices dropping. Use this as a buying opportunity for good names, and hold through these periods of volatility.
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博主回应提及持有IREN股票
@midlevelcruiser @FransBakker9812 @DivesTech 我有 $IREN 你知道的
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@midlevelcruiser @FransBakker9812 @DivesTech i have $IREN you know
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AI股短期暴跌，但基本面改善令长期看涨。
@DivesTech “迷你恐慌”。更像是全线个股的崩盘，例如 $IREN 暴跌 38%，$ALAB 本周重挫 20.30%。但正如你所说，由于基本面改善，我对长期走势依然看涨。https://t.co/KGU5qa0wf4
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@DivesTech "Mini Panic". More like crash in names across the board with stocks like $IREN crashing 38% to $ALAB tanking 20.30% this week. But as you said I'm bullish too longer term due to improving fundamentals. https://t.co/KGU5qa0wf4
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高贝塔AI股因宏观恐慌错杀，基本面强劲者终将迎来价值回归。
我们正目睹高贝塔值AI股票板块的崩盘，部分个股在1个月内下跌30-45%+，今日再跌10%+。 这包括直接受益于“七巨头”资本支出的公司： - Nebius ($NBIS)：$META 30亿美元交易 / 80亿美元远期年度经常性收入(Forward ARR)。 - TeraWulf ($WULF)：Anthropic数据中心(<500亿美元) + 与$GOOGL的合资光纤网络(FS)。 - Iren ($IREN)：$MSFT 90亿美元高性能计算(HPC)。 - Cipher ($CIFR)：与$AMZN签署15年55亿美元合同。 这些公司在过去一个月里改善了基本面。 但市场仍在恐慌性抛售从$CRDO (-10.33% 1D)到$CIFR (-7.28% 1D)的股票，尽管它们拥有创纪录的远期收入增长。 这主要是由宏观担忧（政府停摆、12月降息、公司债利差等）和虚假（但微妙）的机构观点（如Burry关于GPU折旧的说法）驱动的，而非基于个股基本面。 这清洗了AI投机性板块（如能源股$OKLO，1个月跌37%）中的泡沫，但高利润率的增长型股票也受牵连。 我之前说过，这让我想起$HOOD从$65跌至$28后反弹至$150，或$ALAB在所有财报超预期后从$100跌至$50再反弹至$245。 当市场充满恐惧，尤其是像现在这样的“AI泡沫”恐慌时，股价有时会与基本面脱节。 但当远期增长能支撑市值预期时，这只是时间和执行力的问题。
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We're seeing a sector crash in high-beta AI stocks, with names down 30-45%+ in 1M & 10%+ today. This includes direct beneficiaries of Mag7 Capex : - Nebius ( $NBIS ): $3B $META deal / $8B forward ARR. - TeraWulf ( $WULF ): <$50B Antrophic DC + JV FS/ $GOOGL - Iren ( $IREN ): $9B $MSFT HPC - Cipher ( $CIFR ): 15Y $5.5 billion w/ $AMZN. that improved their fundamentals in this past month alone. But markets are still panic selling names from $CRDO (-10.33% 1D) to $CIFR (-7.28% 1D) despite record forward revenue growth. This is driven over fears from macro (shutdown, Dec rate cut, corporate bond spreads, etc) and false (but nuanced) institutional claims eg. Burry on GPU depreciation, rather than individual fundamentals. This wipes away froth from the speculative parts of the AI sector such as $OKLO (energy, -37% 1M), but higher-margin growth names get caught together with it. I've said this before, but this reminds me of the time $HOOD sold off to $28 from $65 then pulled off a rally to $150. Or when $ALAB sold off from $100 to $50 off all earnings beats, then rallied to $245. Sometimes stock prices get detached from fundamentals when there’s fear in the markets, especially with “AI bubble” fears like what's happening now. But when the forward growth backs up any market cap projections, it’s just a matter of time and execution.
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成长股因宏观利空广泛抛售，$PYPL 作为价值股相对独立。
这是成长型/高贝塔股的广泛抛售。$PYPL 是一只价值投资类型的股票。例如： 1个月： $CRCL -36.04% $ALAB -21.4% $HIMS -28.34% $RKLB -23.07% $SMCI -30.77% $SG -27.9% $ETH -19.03% $BTC -11.86% _ 新云/矿企 1周： $CIFR -27.64% $IREN -26.7% $BITF -22.9% $CLSK -20.89% $NBIS -20.23% $WULF -15.09% 这不仅仅是单只股票的问题。这是在鲍威尔关于12月降息+政府长期停摆的言论之后发生的。
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It's a broader sell-off on growth/higher beta. $PYPL is a value investing type stock. eg: 1 Month: $CRCL -36.04% $ALAB -21.4% $HIMS -28.34% $RKLB -23.07% $SMCI -30.77% $SG -27.9% $ETH -19.03% $BTC -11.86% _ Neoclouds/Miners 1 Week: $CIFR -27.64% $IREN -26.7% $BITF -22.9% $CLSK -20.89% $NBIS -20.23% $WULF -15.09% It's not just a single stock. This was after Powell's comments about Dec rate cut + extended gov shutdown.
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卖出低贝塔股，重仓超卖的新云板块及多只AI相关个股。
@soulbiri1 现在对 $NBIS 的敞口超过 200 万美元，在低于 96 美元时大幅加仓。在 53.8 美元重新买入 $IREN，17.3 美元买入 $CIFR，并首次建仓 $CORZ - 16.3 美元，$SMCI - 38 美元的中期头寸。整个板块被极度超卖，简直可笑。今天卖出了我的低贝塔（Low-Beta）股票，以便重仓回归新云（Neoclouds）领域。
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@soulbiri1 $2M+ in $NBIS exposure now, added super heavily at <$96. Rebought $IREN at $53.8, $CIFR at $17.3 and initiating $CORZ - $16.3, $SMCI - $38 mid term positions. The whole sector is hilariously oversold. Sold off my low-beta stocks today to position heavily back into Neoclouds.
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Northland上调目标价，NBIS业绩超预期，作者逢低加仓。
Northland 刚刚将其目标价(PT)上调至 $211（跑赢大盘），但这 $6 的涨幅可能只是随机波动。正如你所说，我们两人都在建模约 $50-70 亿 ARR，而 $NBIS 刚刚凭借强劲的财报表现，将指引提升至 $70-90 亿。不幸的是，从 $CRWV 到 $IREN 的板块性抛售正在发生，但基本面与股价已脱节，本周跌幅达 20%。我利用这次机会在 $96 加仓。一家年增长率超过 700% 的企业显然定价错误，主要受宏观恐慌和板块回调影响。
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Northland ended up increasing their PT to $211 (Outperform) just now, but the $6 increase is likely just a random bump. As you mentioned, we both were modelling ~$5-7B ARR, and $NBIS just strongly blew out numbers with their earnings to a guided $7-9B figure. Unfortunately there's a sector short/sell-off from $CRWV to $IREN but fundamentals are detached from stock price right now with the 20% selloff this week. I ended up using this time to increase my position at $96. A business growing from 700%+ Y/Y is definitely not being priced correctly and largely off of fear from broader macro and sector correction.
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NBIS凭借能耗比优势大幅领先IREN。
@cmachdop $NBIS 凭借这一能耗比(Energy Ratio)将 $IREN 远远甩在身后。
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@cmachdop $NBIS blows $IREN out of the water with this ER
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新云财报解读及反驳伯里GPU贬值论，强调新云逻辑强劲。
今日新云(Neocloud)财报 + 为何迈克尔·伯里(Michael Burry)错了： $WULF - 财报超预期(ER)表现积极，来自520兆瓦(HPC)算力的高性能计算(HPC)容量总合同价值(TCV)达170亿美元。 在德州成立240兆瓦合资企业(JV)用于数据中心(DC)扩张 + 50亿美元融资。 不像$CIFR与AWS的财报超预期那样特别，只是确认（如交易融资）和站点开发。 $CRWV - 因第四季度远期收入较低，财报超预期表现短期看空。 556亿美元积压订单（其中224亿美元来自OpenAI）。小幅盈利超预期13.6亿 vs 12.9亿（同比129%），EBITDA利润率（61%）。 股价因数据中心延迟下跌，这损害了2025财年（50.5-51.5亿 vs 共识52.9亿）。运营利润率下调，正如我预测的那样，因为债务融资产生的利息（~10亿+利息/年）侵蚀了利润率，而其他新云没有同样的问题。 话虽如此，这是一次性问题，鉴于市场是前瞻性的，我们可能会看到任何抛售在下个季度后被买回。 _ 至于迈克尔·伯里关于GPU贬值的争论：他完全错了，但在低估这一点上部分正确。 他的普遍主张：芯片在2-3年产品周期上的资本支出(Capex)不应导致使用寿命的延长 -> 在谷歌的案例中，他们7年前的TPU正以100%的利用率运行。重复一遍，是7年前。 Amin Vahdat表示，谷歌目前生产中有七代TPU硬件，且“七到八年前的TPU拥有100%的利用率”。 “谷歌称TPU需求超过供应，声称8年前的硬件迭代‘100%利用率’” - 数据中心动态 -> 在英伟达(Nvidia)的案例中，A100（PCIe和SXM4变体）仍在运行。它们于2020年推出。现在是2025年。旧型号保持其价值并仍然提供收益。它们不会仅仅因为是补充新模型的附加组件就被核销。 英伟达的A100可以划分为隔离实例以最大化利用率，旧一代加速器仍用于推理或低优先级任务进行货币化，而不是像他所声称的那样被核销。它们实际上具有残值，5年后仍能高价转售。 他在保质期问题上完全错了，但在某些超大规模云服务商如何拉伸利用率概念以证明激进资本支出方面可能是正确的。 这是一个微妙的论点，但新云逻辑依然完好且比以往任何时候都更强。
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Neocloud Earnings Today + Why Michael Burry is Wrong: $WULF - ER was positive, $17B TCV from 520 MW HPC capacity. 240 MW JV in Texas for DC expansion + $5B financing. Nothing special like $CIFR ER with AWS, just conf (eg. deal finances) and site dev. $CRWV - ER was bearish near term due to lower forward revenue Q4. $55.6B backlog ($22.4B from OpenAI). Slight earnings beat 1.36B vs. 1.29B (129% Y/Y), EBITDA margins (61%). Stock dropped on datacenter delay, this hurts FY 2025 (505-5.15B vs. 5.29B consensus). Operating margins was lowered, which I predicted due to debt financing with interest (~1B+ interest/year) that cuts into margins, while other Neoclouds don't have that same issue. That being said this was a one-off issue, and we'll likely see any sell-off bought back after next quarter since markets are forward looking. _ As for Michael Burry arguing on GPU deprecation: he's completely wrong, but partially right about understating it. His general claim: capex of chips on a 2-3 yr product cycle should not result in the extension of useful lives -> in Google's case, their TPUs from 7 years ago are being run at 100% utilization lol. Repeat 7 years ago. Amin Vahdat, said that Google currently has seven generations of its TPU hardware in production, and that the “seven- and eight-year-old TPUs have 100 % utilization.” "Google says TPU demand is outstripping supply, claims 8yr old hardware iterations have “100% utilization” -Data Center Dynamics -> in Nvidia's case A100 (PCIe and SXM4 variants), are still in operation. They were launched in 2020. It's 2025 now. Older models keep their value and still deliver equity. They don't just get nuked since it's an add-on to compliment newer models. Nvidia’s A100 can be partitioned into isolated instances to maximize utilization, and older-gen accelerators are still monetized for inference or lower-prio tasks rather than getting nuked as what he claims. They actually have residual value and still re-sale for a lot 5 years later. He's completely wrong here on shelf-life, but might be correct in how some hyperscalers stretch the idea of utilization to justify aggressive capex. It's a nuanced argument but Neocloud thesis remains in tact and stronger than ever.
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宏观利好预期下，建议布局基本面稳健的高Beta成长股。
网上有很多只发标题党的帖子。 我通常尝试在标题之上连接线索，并补充“为什么”（因为它能推动市场）。 关于新宏观环境的TLDR（对$NBIS、$IREN等高Beta股看涨）： 1⃣ 结束政府停摆的协议正在成型 - Axios（政府停摆可能在~5天内结束） 评论：过去一两个小时内，事件合约赔率从27%跳升至54%。我们正在定价近期解决。 • 政府支出恢复后，流动性回流。 • 市场重新定价更高的GDP增长。 • 消费者支出立即回升。 • 不确定性消退（市场讨厌不确定性）。 结果 → 预期当风险偏好回归时，高Beta和周期性股票表现良好。 2️⃣ 向美国纳税人提议$2,000“关税红利” 评论：感觉像是COVID刺激的迷你版。那些存款引发了零售支出的最快跳跃，人们用那笔钱购买从比特币到英雄联盟皮肤的一切。但这至少来自关税。 • 对资产有利：更多资金流入经济。 • 可能导致通胀：需求压力增加，美联储后期可能反击。 • 短期：对风险资产和成长股极度积极。中长期：可能因通胀和美联储收紧而适得其反。 • 此类举措通常旨在短期内点燃市场，利好任何高成长标的。 结果 → 预期在正式重开前抢跑，并在确认后飙升。 你可以看到像$ETH这样的资产因上述两者的结合开始从$3300->$3500恢复，作为一个例子。 再次强调，我预期了像#2这样的情况，仅仅是因为明年中期选举临近。执政党如果市场表现良好通常会连任（所以我预期像#2 + 施压美联储降息，所以市场上涨）。 当然，这只是新消息+猜测，鉴于决策的波动性，不一定是事实lol。但总体上关注那些回调但基本面仍在增长的股票，例如$NBIS、$RDDT、$ALAB等。
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Lot of headline-only posters out there. I usually try to connect the dots on top of the headlines and fill in the why (it moves markets). TLDR on the new macro setup (bullish for high-beta names like $NBIS, $IREN, etc): 1⃣ DEAL TO END GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN TAKES SHAPE - Axios (Government shutdown likely ending within ~5 days) Commentary: Event-contract odds jumped from 27% → 54% in the past hour or two. We're pricing in a near-term resolution. • Liquidity flows back once government spending resumes. • Market reprices GDP growth higher. • Consumer spending picks up immediately. • Uncertainty fades (markets hate uncertainty). Result → Expect high-beta and cyclicals to do well when risk appetite comes back. 2️⃣ $2,000 “tariff dividend” proposal to American taxpayers Commentary: Feels like a mini-version of the COVID stimulus. Those deposits triggered the fastest jumps in retail spending, people were buying everything from Bitcoin to League Skins with that. But at least this came from tariffs. • Great for assets: more money flowing into the economy. • Might lead to inflation: more demand pressure, potential Fed pushback later. • Short-term: Extremely positive for risk assets and growth names. Mid to long-term: Could backfire with inflation and the Fed tightens. • Usually moves like this aim to ignite markets in the near term, good for anything heavy growth. Result → Expect frontrunning before the official reopening and a spike once it’s confirmed. You can kinda see stuff like $ETH start its recovery from the combination of the two above $3300->$3500 as an example. Again I expected things like #2, just due to midterms coming up next year. The party in power usually gets re-elected if markets seem to be doing well (so I'd expect stuff like #2 + fed pressured rate cuts, so markets go up). Of course this is just new news + speculation, not facts for sure given how volatile decisions are made lol. But generally focus on stocks that corrected but still have growing fundamentals eg. $NBIS, $RDDT, $ALAB, etc.
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基于降息预期和政府重开概率，推测高贝塔股将大幅复苏。
当然，我的推测是，一旦政府重新开放，我们将看到像 $NBIS、$IREN 或 $ASTS 这样的高贝塔(高波动性)股票大幅复苏。鉴于下个月降息这一更广泛的顺风因素已被定价，概率为 74%。 根据当前的合约数据： 11月12日-15日：22% 11月15日：51%（未来一周内某时点约有半数机会） 11月30日：92% 我们可以看到，未来7天内政府重新开放的概率为50%。 因此，我们预计届时会出现复苏（如果概率增加，可能会有一些抢跑交易）。这仅仅是关于如何估算复苏。
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Sure, my speculation was that we'll see a large recovery in high beta stocks like $NBIS, $IREN, or $ASTS once government will re-opens. Since there's a broader tailwind of a rate cut next month priced in at 74%. So with the current contract data: Nov 12th-15th: 22% Nov 15th: 51% (~half chance sometime in the next week) Nov 30th: 92% We can just see there's a 50% chance government reopens in the next 7 days. So we'll get a recovery around then (likely with some frontrunning if chances increase). That's just in terms with estimating recovery.
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IREN财报EPS超预期系会计技巧，AI云ARR指引强劲，但利润转化仍待观察。
关于 $IREN，我看到那些吹嘘每股收益(EPS)“超预期”的评论，正是之前一直试图引用AI高性能计算(HPC)92%+毛利率的同一群人。这纯粹只是会计框架的包装。 从盈利角度看，他们预测AI云业务的年度经常性收入(ARR)达到34亿美元，这极其看涨。IREN 还有大量剩余产能，因此预计进入2026年后ARR将进一步扩大。 但除此之外，我一直主张产能转化为收入，但从该收入中产生的利润率/自由现金流(FCF)更为重要。现在的问题仅仅是有多少收入能转化为利润，我认为在后续财报出来之前，我们很难确切知道。 抛开这些不谈，IREN 的财报表现似乎很不错。
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So for $IREN, the amount of comments I've seen bullposting about EPS "beat" are the same people who kept trying to quote 92%+ gross margins on AI HPC. It's literally just accounting framing. Earnings wise, extremely bullish that they projected $3.4B ARR from AI cloud. IREN has a lot more capacity left-over so they'll likely scale ARR more going into 2026. But that aside I've always argued capacity -> revenue, but margins/FCF from that revenue is more important. Now it's just a debate how much of that revenue converts into profit, which I don't think we'll know for sure until future earnings come in. That aside IREN earnings seemed great.
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高贝塔股大幅回调，建议基本面完好者逢低布局。
全面的回调简直令人作呕。 高贝塔值成长股过去5天的表现： • $SMCI -26.11% • $RKLB -19.85% • $CRCL -19.81% • $NBIS -19.14% • $WYFI -18.55% • $ALAB -16.64% • $CRDO -16.8% • $HOOD -14.36% • $ASTS -14.09% • $IREN -13.22% • $AMD -11.63% • $CIFR -10.05% • $RDDT -9.00% 像 $RGTI (-27.33%)、$QBUT (-25.5%)、$QBTS (-25.43%)、$OKLO (-17.04%) 等没有收入的投机性股票，普遍出现了更大的回调。 当政府重新开放时，我预计许多投机性名称将继续下跌，而基本面完好无损的公司（例如 $CIFR、$NBIS、$TSM、$HOOD、$RDDT）将会恢复。 当前合约市场数据： 11月12日-15日：22% 11月15日：49%（下周某时约有一半几率） 11月30日：92% 在市场极度恐慌且下月第三次降息概率超过75%时，利用大幅回调布局高贝塔值股票（如果基本面完好）是绝佳时机。 像这样的大规模抛售也说明了为什么你不应该做剩余期限<30天的短期期权，即使你对 $SNAP 或 $CIFR 的财报判断正确。
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Pretty disgusting correction across the board. Last 5 days for high-beta growth stocks: • $SMCI -26.11% • $RKLB -19.85% • $CRCL -19.81% • $NBIS -19.14% • $WYFI -18.55% • $ALAB -16.64% • $CRDO -16.8% • $HOOD -14.36% • $ASTS -14.09% • $IREN -13.22% • $AMD -11.63% • $CIFR -10.05% • $RDDT -9.00% Speculative no revenue stocks like ( $RGTI -27.33%, $QBUT -25.5%, $QBTS -25.43%, $OKLO -17.04% etc), had larger corrections across the board. When the government reopens, I’d expect many of the speculative names to stay down, while companies where fundamentals are in tact (eg. $CIFR, $NBIS, $TSM, $HOOD, $RDDT) would recover. Current Contract Market data: Nov 12th-15th: 22% Nov 15th: 49% (~half chance sometime in the next week) Nov 30th: 92% Great time to position into higher-beta stocks during large corrections, (if fundamentals are in-tact), especially when we're in the extreme-fear part of markets and there's 75%+ of a third rate cut next month. Broad selloffs like these are also why you don't do short dated options <30dte, even if you are correct on earnings like $SNAP or $CIFR.
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基本面强劲支撑AI板块，短期回调因宏观因素，建议逢低加仓。
忽略噪音，持有仓位或在市场赢家身上加仓。 你拥有： - 来自 $NBIS、$IREN、$CIFR 等新型云服务商(Neoclouds)的惊人远期营收增长 - 来自 $META 到 $MSFT 等七巨头(Mag7)财报创纪录的高资本支出(CapEX)预期 - 来自 $TSM 等半导体公司创纪录的高远期营收预期+利润率增长 如果基本面完好，像“AI派对结束了”这样的新闻头条就是胡扯。 随着政府停摆结束，我们很可能会看到重大复苏。 这很可能是一次短期回调，定价了诸如没有第三次降息（概率从86%降至70%，但仍有可能）+ 政府停摆延长至16日之后（合约市场显示53%的概率，两天前为30%）等因素。
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Ignore the noise and hold positions/add in market winners. You have: - Insane forward revenue growth from Neoclouds like $NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR - Record high CapEX projections from Mag7 earnings like $META to $MSFT - Record high forward revenue projections + margin growth from semiconductors like $TSM. If fundamentals are in tact, news headlines like "The AI Party is Over" is BS. We'll likely see a major recovery when government shutdown ends. This is likely a short-term correction pricing in a few things such as no third rate cut (86% -> 70%, still likely) + government shutdown extending past the 16th (53% chance, 30% chance 2 days ago) per contract markets.
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澄清 $IREN 估值争议，指出原帖低估IRR，给出10%-28%的IRR区间。
当有人说“他讨厌x”或“他有偏见”时，你没有任何理由去反驳他的观点。我不确定很多 $IREN 社区成员是去攻击个人而不是数据，但这无助于解决问题。 回到主题，你说得对，原帖确实遗漏了 $IREN 200兆瓦数据中心（数据中心）的残值，其使用寿命通常长于5年。因此，这低估了内部收益率(IRR)。 但该表格在隔离合同经济学（而非企业价值EV）方面在数学上是正确的，所以你们争论的是两回事。 现实介于你的帖子和他们的帖子之间： -> 无杠杆内部收益率(IRR) ~10.2% -> 可能的IRR案例 <20% (14%-18%) -> 22-28% 是激进情况，且一切顺利（伴随显著的数据中心终端实现和融资）
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You have no argument when you say his point is wrong because "He hates x" or "He is biased". I'm not sure a lot of $IREN community members go after a person themself instead of the data but it's not productive. Going back to the topic, you're right that the original post is missing residual value for $IREN's 200 MW datacenter, which usually has longer life than 5Y. So it understates IRR. But the table is mathematically correct for isolating contract economics, not EV, so you're arguing two different things. Reality lies in between your post and theirs: -> Unlevered IRR ~10.2% -> Likely IRR case <20% (14%-18%) -> 22-28% aggressive and everything goes right (with significant terminal datacenter realization and financing)
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AMD市值潜力取决于AI模型应用，但鉴于对台积电依赖，仓位较小。
嗯，如果萨姆·阿尔特曼(Sam Altman)和埃隆·马斯克(Elon Musk)关于前沿模型能充分利用AMD的说法属实，$AMD 的市值潜力有望达到 $NVDA 目前的水平。不过，OpenAI 目前承诺每年为 $AMD 带来额外数百亿美元的前瞻性收入，这显得有些过于乐观，让我们拭目以待。这也正是我的 $AMD 仓位相对于 $TSM 较小的原因，以及我说过无需将 AMD 与 NVDA 或 $IREN 与 $NBIS 进行比较的原因，因为所有环节都依赖于 $TSM。
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Hmm, $AMD has potential to be $NVDA’s current market cap if what Sam Altman + Elon Musk says is true in how frontier models can use it well. Then again OpenAi is promising too many things right now in terms of an additional tens of billions of forward revenue a year to $AMD, so we’ll see. That’s kind of why my AMD position sizes were small relative to $TSM, and why I’ve said you don’t need to compare AMD to NVDA or $IREN to $NBIS when every single thing is reliant on $TSM
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分析CRWV收购失败及高息债务劣势，对比NBIS优势并指出政府合同潜力。
对于 $CRWV 而言，问题在于其收购 $CORZ 未能获批。Core Scientific 本应比那 90 亿美元的收购价带来更大价值。若能在其现有合同基础上，通过收购为全栈模型（Full Stack Model）增加更多 GW 级算力，将是极度看涨（omega bullish）的利好。 Coreweave 每年还有超过 10 亿美元的利息债务，这对自由现金流（FCF）和利润率造成了极大拖累（相比之下，$NBIS、$CIFR、$IREN 使用的是可转换票据）。 $NBIS 已经实现了 $CRWV 的全栈垂直整合，但拥有更高的利用率、更好的编排/性能（根据其白皮书）、无巨额债务利息以及高积压订单，因此市场看到了其他风险更低、上行空间更大的替代方案。 不过，如果 $CRWV 获得美国政府合同批准，那将是另一个巨大的看涨催化剂。但我们已经看到像与 $META 签订的 140 亿美元这样的大型合同积压订单，然而其债务利息确实荒谬。
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For $CRWV it was $CORZ acquisition failing to get approved. Core scientific would have delivered so much more value than that 9B price tag. Having more GW capacity added to their full stack model (on top of their existing contract with them), would have been omega bullish with the acquisition. Coreweave also has $1B+ in interest debt a year, which is an extremely big drag on FCF + margins (compared to $NBIS, $CIFR, $IREN with did convertible notes). $NBIS already achieved what $CRWV did with full-stack vertical integration, but higher utilization + better orchestration/performance (as per their whitepaper) + no massive interest on debt + high backlogs, so markets see other lower risk, higher upside, alternatives emerging. If $CRWV get approved for US Gov contracts though, that would be another huge catalyst upside. But we already have visibility into large contracted backlogs like $14B with $META but the debt interest is just ridiculous.
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感冒简评：META/NBIS错杀强买，警示IREN/ETH，宏观看多AI基建。
11月4日 - 个股分析 + 宏观 清仓抛售：$META • $NBIS • $IBIT 强烈买入：$RDDT • $RKLB • $WLAC • $CIFR • $LTC • $SOL • $CORZ 存储：南亚科 $2408，SK海力士 $HXSCL，美光 $MU 买入：$AMZN • $DELL • $SMCI • $ALAB • $CRDO • $TSM • $AMD • $FLNC • $TE 警示：$IREN • $ETH • $BMNR • $CRCL 量子计算：$IONQ • $RGTI • $QBTS 通常我会逐一列表，列出更多的买卖建议并解释每一个原因，但我感冒了。 所以今天只做极简版，懒得研究更多股票。喝着汤，只关注几只股票并给出更广泛的概述。（如果有人问，我会帮忙解释。） $META： 再次强烈、强烈、强烈建议在财报大跌15%+及盘后下跌时买入。 营收超预期。每股收益(EPS)超预期。远期盈利完好。 如果计入一次性税收，EPS为$7.25对$6.67，但显示为$1.05（大幅不及预期），导致算法立即抛售。随后的抛售中，机械性资金流通常会将价格推得更低，但趋势通常在1-2周内反转。 利用这一点。 像“Meta在AI上花费太多”这样的叙事可能是噪音。每家Mag7公司都在增加AI资本支出，除非你从云/ASIC角度争论，否则Meta并没有做任何异常的事。有时真正的原因更愚蠢，比如算法未能识别一次性税收的标准化。 当低贝塔值的Mag7因非实质性原因下跌16%+时，有很大的获利潜力。 警示类别摘要： 不是叫卖，只是给出公平警示，让人们自行决定。 量子计算：仍无收入证明价格飙升的合理性。某些数据中心股票，即使回调后，也有远期营收+自由现金流支撑估值。 $ETH：高于$3K不是强买入（自$4.8K以来立场相同）。 $BMNR：ETH国库策略；以溢价追踪ETH价格。除非有国有化潜力（如$MSTR），否则国库策略不好。 $CRCL：下个月有巨大、巨大、巨大的股份解禁。 $IREN：$MSFT合同在标题上看起来很棒（$9B+营收，超大规模云厂商交易），但实际上利润率很差。 交易不是纯托管；$IREN吸收了~$5.8B的GPU+辅助设备资本支出。 毛利率：最好只有30%出头，自由现金流盈利能力可能降至个位数。相比之下，$NBIS的交易结构更好（$11.6M/MW/yr vs $9.7M/MW/yr）。 交易验证了超大规模云厂商将与IREN签约（正面），但交易本身很糟糕。不是卖出，只是警示那些因标题而FOMO的人。 如果你想FOMO进什么，$CIFR（AWS合同）更有意义。 _ 宏观观点： 市场一直在抛售高贝塔值股票，可能只是正常回调。 逆风： 鲍威尔暗示第三次降息不确定 -> 重新定价。 政府停摆可能延长（短期逆风）。历史上，重新开放后回调会迅速反转。 事件市场定价11月14日为结束日期（还有9天）。 如果像$NBIS（-7.9%）这样拥有惊人远期营收支撑的名字没有实质性变化，大跌时是极好的买入机会。还有像$RDDT这样发布了好财报却跌了7%的股票，也是强烈的买入机会。 泡沫在美联储收紧时破裂。我们已经有了两次降息，还有一次很可能。不要跟随那个预测了过去1次崩溃中5000次的《富爸爸穷爸爸》家伙。 AI ≠ 泡沫 yet - 由Mag7财报、真实营收和利润支撑。但如果OpenAI继续在没有资金的情况下过度承诺合同，以后可能开始像泡沫（1-2年后的投影风险）。 摘要：随着降息后的宽松，市场可能趋势向上。 数据中心建设保持完整（Mag7财报显示巨大的AI资本支出）。 回调中保持强劲的板块：存储 • 能源 • 半导体 • 连接 • 新云 保持多头，在这些回调中建立仓位
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November 4th - Stock Analysis + Macro Fire Sale: $META • $NBIS • $IBIT Strong Buys: $RDDT • $RKLB • $WLAC • $CIFR • $LTC • $SOL • $CORZ Memory: Nanya $2408, SK Hynix $HXSCL, $MU Buy: $AMZN • $DELL • $SMCI • $ALAB • $CRDO • $TSM • $AMD • $FLNC • $TE Warnings: $IREN • $ETH • $BMNR • $CRCLQuantum: $IONQ • $RGTI • $QBTS Normally I'd go down the list, have more buy/sells, and talk about every single explanation but I caught a cold. So just doing an extremely light version today and didn’t feel like researching more stocks. Just focusing on a few with a broader overview while I drink some soup. (Will help explain if someone asks though.) $META: Once again, Strong, Strong, Strong Buy on the 15%+ earnings drop and post-ER drop. Beat on Revenue. Beat on EPS. Forward earnings intact. If you factor in one-time tax, EPS was $7.25 to $6.67, but it showed as $1.05 (huge miss), which led to algorithmic sell-offs immediately after. Following sell-offs, mechanical flows often push prices lower, but trends usually reverse in 1–2 weeks. Take advantage of this. Narratives like “Meta spending too much on AI” are likely noise. Every Mag7 company is increasing AI capex, Meta isn’t doing anything unusual unless you argue from a cloud/ASIC standpoint. Sometimes the real reason is dumber like algorithms not recognizing one-time tax normalization. Lot of profit potential when lower-beta Mag7 drops 16%+ on nothing material. Warnings Category TLDR: Not calling sells, just giving fair warnings so people can decide for themselves. Quantum: Still no revenue to justify price surges. Certain data center stocks, even after corrections, have forward revenue + FCF to back valuations. $ETH: Not a strong buy above $3K (same stance since $4.8K). $BMNR: ETH treasury play; tracks ETH price with a premium. Treasury plays aren’t good unless potential for nationalization (eg. $MSTR). $CRCL: Massive, massive, massive share unlock coming next month. $IREN: The $MSFT contract looks great in headlines ($9B+ revenue, Hyperscaler deal), but in reality, margins are poor. Deal isn’t pure colo; $IREN absorbs ~$5.8B capex in GPUs + ancillary equipment. Gross margins: low 30s at best, can drop to single-digit FCF profitability. By comparison, $NBIS had a structurally better deal ($11.6M/MW/yr vs $9.7M/MW/yr). The deal validated that hyperscalers will sign with IREN (positive), but the deal itself was terrible.Not a sell, just a warning for people FOMOing the headline. If you want to FOMO into something, $CIFR (AWS contract) makes more sense. _ Macro View: Markets have been selling off high-beta stocks, likely just a normal correction. Headwinds: Powell signaling a third rate cut isn’t certain -> repricing. Gov shutdown likely extends (short-term headwind). Historically, corrections reverse quickly after reopen. Event markets price Nov 14th as end date (9 days out). If there’s no material change for names like $NBIS (-7.9%), backed by insane forward revenue, great buy on the dip. Also stuff like $RDDT that posted great ER but dropped 7.% also strong buying opportunity. Bubbles pop under Fed tightening. We've had two rate cuts, and another still likely. Don’t follow the Rich Dad Poor Dad dude who predicted 5000 of the last 1 crashes. AI ≠ bubble yet - backed by Mag7 earnings, real revenue, and profits. But if OpenAI keeps over-promising contracts without funds, it could start resembling one later (projection risk 1–2 years out). TLDR: Markets likely trend higher as easing follows rate cuts. Data center buildout remains intact (Mag7 earnings show huge AI capex). Sectors that stay strong on corrections: Memory • Energy • Semi • Connectivity • Neoclouds Stay long and build positions on these dips
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IREN交易因承担高额CapEx且毛利远低于NBIS而显得糟糕。
当你关注自由现金流(FCF)而非营收数字时，$IREN 的交易看起来糟糕得多，因为它并非纯粹的托管服务(Colo)。当标准化至 300 MW 并对比微软(MSFT)的交易时，$IREN 预计毛利率仅为 30% 左右，甚至在悲观情景下为低个位数，而 $NBIS 则超过 50%（至少基于初步计算，我需要重新审视）。在这种情况下，$IREN 自行承担了 58 亿美元的 GPU 及辅助设备资本支出(CapEx)。
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The deal looks a lot worse for $IREN when you look into FCF generated more instead of revenue numbers since it's not pure colo. When you normalize to 300 MW and compare MSFT deals $IREN is projected to do ~30s gross or even low single digits in bear cases, and $NBIS ~50%+ (at least from initial calculations, I need to revisit) In this case, IREN is taking on the $5.8 billion CapEx for the GPUs and ancillary equipment itself.
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对比CIFR与IREN，认为前者估值合理，后者合同条款差且利润率低。
对于 $CIFR，当前盈利无关紧要，市场定价基于远期盈利。乍看之下，除了通过 Fluidstack 现有的 $GOOGL 合作外，AWS 的交易看起来棒极了。因此其 20% 的涨幅实至名归。 另一方面，$IREN 的合同细看之下越来越糟。 营收不重要，重要的是该营收带来的自由现金流(FCF)/利润率，尤其是考虑到他们正在花费 58 亿美元购买 GPU。我看过一些保守情景测算，显示其年化营业利润仅约 9800 万美元/年，这真的太低了。 即便乐观估计，毛利率也在 30% 以下甚至 20% 出头，而非其他人引用的 90%+ 的高性能计算(HPC)板块。这才是规模化后的利润率现实。 $IREN 是在购买资产，而非人们一直声称的提供托管服务(colocation service)。 $NBIS 与微软(MSFT)的交易在标准化至 300MW 后，其盈利能力和毛利率远优于 $IREN。当然，我还需要花更多时间进行建模。
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For $CIFR, doesn't matter about current earnings, market prices in forward earnings. And at first glance AWS deal looks amazing on top of their existing $GOOGL deals through Fluidstack. So well deserving of their 20% bump. For $IREN on the other hand, the contract worse and worse when you examine it more. Revenue does not matter. FCF/margins from that revenue is what matters, especially since they're spending $5.8bn GPUs. I've seen some conservative-case calculations where they generate ~Annualized operating profit 98m+/year, which is really low. Even so optimistically, gross margins are in the <30s or even 20s, and not the 90%+ HPC segments that others are quoting. This is the reality of margins at scale. IREN is buying the asset, rather than the colocation service people kept claiming $IREN would do. $NBIS deal with MSFT was extremely better than IREN’s in terms of profitability and margins when normalized to 300 MW. But of course I need to spend more time on modeling.
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对比NBIS与IREN微软合约，前者利润率更高且能产生自由现金流。
经过更深入的研究，$NBIS 与 $MSFT 的交易在标准化至 300 MW 后，其盈利能力和利润率似乎远优于 $IREN。 这不仅仅关乎营收，因为如果不能产生自由现金流(FCF)，营收就没那么有用。 对于 $IREN： 总合同价值 97 亿美元 GPU 资本支出(Capex) 58 亿美元，包括辅助设备 ~38% 的毛利率。 $NBIS 51.76%+ 的毛利率。 我需要做更多计算来验证，这只是在交易差异方面的一次快速深度研究计算。
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After looking into it more, looks like $NBIS's deal with $MSFT was largely better than $IREN's in terms of profitability and margins when normalized to 300 MW. It's not purely about revenue, since if you're not generating FCF from it, it's not that useful. For $IREN: $9.7bn total contract value $5.8bn GPU capex, including ancillaries ~38% gross margin. $NBIS 51.76%+ gross margin. I need to do more calculations to verify, this was just a quick deep-research calculation in terms of deal differences.
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IREN/CIFR涨幅回吐，NBIS回调提供买入良机。
哇，$IREN 和 $CIFR 刚刚抹去了其涨幅。至少对于 $IREN 而言，我想市场已经提前计入了超大规模云服务商(hyperscaler)的合同预期。 不过 $CIFR 的 AWS 公告确实让所有人都大吃一惊。 $NBIS 随大盘下跌，但鉴于整个 Neocloud 行业因超大规模云服务商合同接连公布以及财报季(ERs)期间前景极为看涨，这 -5% 的回调买入机会极好。
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Wow $IREN and $CIFR just wiped out its gains. For $IREN at least, I guess the market was pricing in a hyperscaler contract already. $CIFR AWS announcement was a really big surprise to everyone though. $NBIS just dropped with the rest of the market but an extremely good -5% dip buy since the whole Neocloud industry is really bullish with hyperscaler contracts announced left and right + during ERs.
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IREN完成重大去风险事件，值得重估，需时间建模。
@moninvestor 就像人们常说的手越大越好（~190亿美元 $NBIS 对比 ~90亿美元 $IREN）。 半开玩笑地说，这对 $IREN 来说是一个实质性的去风险事件，值得重新评级。我需要更多时间来进行估值。 （这是制作层级列表的人，如果其他金融X用户想做一个的话） https://t.co/oefhQy7Trn
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@moninvestor Like what they say with hands, the bigger the better (~$19B $NBIS vs ~9B $IREN). Half-joking aside, this was a material de-risking event for $IREN and deserves re-rating. Will need more time to do valuations (This was the tierlist maker if any other finx wanted to make one) https://t.co/oefhQy7Trn
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Neocloud获微软AWS大额订单，算力需求旺盛，板块极度看涨。
Neocloud 名单已更新： $IREN - IREN 与微软达成 97 亿美元 GPU 云合同，包含 20% 预付款，将在五年内部署 NVIDIA GB300。 $CIFR - CIFR 与亚马逊云科技 (AWS) 达成 55 亿美元、15 年的租赁协议。 随着超大规模云服务商 (Hyperscalers) 的新合同涌入，Neocloud 板块变得极度看涨，这显示了对算力 (Compute) 的无限需求。 我在原始论点中预计 $ORCL、$META 和 $AMZN 会达成交易，看来 AWS 已与 $CIFR 入场，预计与其他 Neocloud 的交易也会接踵而至。$META 最近也与 $CRWV 签署了 140 亿美元的交易，从其不断扩大的 AI 资本支出 (Capex) 来看，我们可能会看到更多与 Neocloud 的交易。 这对整个板块来说都是极度看涨的。 我附上了我的个人梯队排名 (Tierlist) 供娱乐，但随着有更多时间分析交易和利润率，数据中心/矿工板块可能会迎来全面重评。
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The Neocloud List got updated: $IREN - IREN secured a $9.7B GPU cloud contract with Microsoft, including 20% upfront prepayment, to deploy NVIDIA GB300s over five years. $CIFR - CIFR secured a $5.5 billion, 15-year lease agreement with Amazon Web Services (AWS). The Neocloud sector just got insanely bullish with new contracts coming in from hyperscalers and this just shows insatiable demand for compute. I expected $ORCL, $META, and $AMZN to make deals in the original thesis and looks like AWS entered the fray with $CIFR, with likely more deals incoming with other Neoclouds. $META also signed a $14B deal with $CRWV recently and from their ER scaling AI Capex, we'll likely see other deals with Neoclouds. This is insanely bullish across the whole sector. I attached my personal tierlist for fun, but we'll likely see a re-ratings in data centers/miners across the board when there's more time to analyze deals and margins.
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维持NBIS看涨目标，看好新云服务商整体利好及NBIS高非对称性。
我仍维持 $NBIS 1年目标价 $400 的看涨观点，但逢低平均成本是个好主意。 $IREN 今天刚获得 $MSFT 的 90 亿美元订单，$GOOGL 也刚刚宣布融资，这对所有新云服务商(Neoclouds)来说总体是利好。 几家挖矿公司因该交易大幅降低了风险，但我仍认为 Nebius 具有最高的非对称性(Asymmetry)。
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I still maintain $NBIS $400 bull case 1Y PT but it’s good to cost average. $IREN just got a $9B deal from $MSFT today and $GOOGL just announced financing so it’s generally bullish for all Neoclouds. Several miners got de-risked a lot today from the deal, but I’d still say Nebius has highest asymmetry.
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推荐年末满仓MINT组合（META/IBIT/NBIS/TSM），利用错杀与高非对称回报。
只有四只股票： 🍬 MINT 拥有极其高、非对称的回报。 意味着低资本风险，高上行回报。 这仅适用于2025年11月和12月。 就是它... MINT 关于为何在2025年底满仓MINT的解释： M = $META I = $IBIT N = $NBIS T = $TSM 将这些神圣的成长型公司纳入你的投资组合，你可以让呼吸更清新，从而吸引Sydney Sweeney： Mag7。加密货币。AI数据中心。半导体。 $META - Meta ___________ 愚蠢的抛售。 营收超预期。每股收益超预期。强劲指引。 当你看到营收512.4亿美元（同比+26.25%），净利润27.1亿美元（同比-82.73%）时，纸面上看起来极其糟糕。 🟢 营收：512.4亿美元 vs. 预期494.1亿美元 剔除一次性税收影响 → 🟢 每股收益：7.25美元 vs. 预期6.67美元 包含一次性税收影响 → 🔴 每股收益：1.05美元 vs. 预期6.67美元 我猜测最初的抛售是由算法驱动的，随后由机械性资金流引起。许多高频交易(HFT)和新闻解析系统会对直接从数据源（彭博、路透等）拉取的头条每股收益数字做出反应。 如果报告的GAAP每股收益（1.05美元）与共识预期（6.67美元）并列显示，系统会将其标记为大幅不及预期。显然这是推测性的，但许多模型并未编程以归一化处理一次性税收费用（这是新的），也不会知道去查看实际超预期的调整后每股收益（7.25美元）。 现在新闻声称抛售是由于AI资本支出惊喜所致。如果接受这个说法，因“AI资本支出增加”而下跌15%+纯粹是叙事，毫无意义，因为$MSFT、$GOOGL、$AMZN、$TSLA以及每一个Mag7都在增加资本支出。 $META做同样的事却遭到抛售说不通，除非人们认为它只是进入一个没有投资回报的黑洞（市场不同意，因为AI基本上在推动$SPY）。 一旦周末有时间让人们消化实际发生的情况，恢复将是极强的买入机会。误读+愚蠢的叙事可能导致短期过度反应（1-2个交易日），通常会被逆转。 $IBIT - 比特币 ___________ 它是比特币。目前位于11万美元。 随着美国政府的支持，以及持续的货币通胀+资金流向新一代人，没有比BTC更好的通胀对冲工具了。 Polymarket仍然定价比特币在2个月内上涨40%至13万美元，即使它上涨几个百分点，你也可以在加密货币和底层资产上获得上行空间。 $NBIS - Nebius ___________ 核心业务估值：310-365亿美元 分部加总（现金、资产、投资组合）：~106亿美元（削减40% = ~63亿美元） 基准情景估值：~390亿美元 → 即使零增长也有高上行空间 核心业务有望在FY26-27实现~50亿美元年度经常性收入(ARR)，60-70%毛利率，30%息税折旧摊销前利润(EBITDA)目标。 通过再达成一个超大规模云厂商协议+SMB扩张，实现80-120亿美元ARR可能证明~1000亿美元估值合理。 无有毒债务，高GPU利用率，全栈架构 → 更高的经营杠杆。 你可以看我引用的要点比较，以便你对$NBIS vs $IREN做出自己的判断。 然而，我将始终维持$NBIS拥有包括$IREN到$CIFR在内的最高非对称回报，因为现有的超大规模云厂商协议、企业客户（Shopify, Accenture）、政府客户、1GW容量、来自全栈的高毛利率等。 这并不是说来自$WULF的Fluidstack + Google协议以及其他容量方面没有高上行空间。 Nebius的下行风险最低。而且它真的、真的有高上行空间。 $TSM ______________ 它是AI交易的中心。 他们已经指引利润率增加——这是天文数字般的。 营收：331亿美元 vs. 315亿美元预期。 每股收益：2.92美元 vs. 2.59美元预期。 指引：322-334亿美元 vs. 320亿美元预期。 他们超收了营收指引，利润率增加，他们印钱的速度真是天文数字。 财报前交易在305-310美元，现在回到300美元。 这是一家万亿+美元的公司，同比增长30%+且利润率提升——到底怎么回事。 我之前在$GOOGL 145美元和$HOOD 20美元时说过同样的话。他们印钱。 没必要辩论$ALAB vs $CRDO，$IREN vs $NBIS，$AMD vs $NVDA。 $TSM是整个AI建设周期的中心，所以这只是等待游戏。 _ 就是它$MINT。 享受歌曲的预告，有点炸。🎶
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There’s only Four stocks: 🍬 MINT That have ABSURDLY HIGH, asymmetrical return. Meaning Low Capital Risk. High Upside Return. This is only for Nov + Dec 2025. Here it is... MINT An explanation of why to full port MINT for end of year 2025: M = $META I = $IBIT N = $NBIS T = $TSM With these four holy growth companies in your portfolio, you can make your breath smell better so you can pull Sydney Sweeney: Mag7. Crypto. AI Data Center. Semiconductor. $META - Meta ___________ Stupid sell-off. Revenue Beat. EPS Beat. Strong guidance. It looks extremely bad on paper when you look at Revenue $51.24B (+26.25% Y/Y), Net income $2.71B (-82.73% Y/Y). 🟢 Revenue: $51.24B vs. est. $49.41B Without one-off tax → 🟢 EPS: $7.25 vs. est. $6.67 With one-off tax → 🔴 EPS: $1.05 vs. est. $6.67 My guess was the initial sell-off was algorithmically driven, then caused by mechanical flows. Many high-frequency trading (HFT) and news-parsing systems react to headline EPS numbers pulled directly from data feeds (Bloomberg, Reuters, etc.). If the reported GAAP EPS ($1.05) is printed alongside a consensus of $6.67, the system flags it as a massive miss. Obviously this is speculative, but many models aren't programmed to normalize for one-time tax charges (which is new) and won’t know to look at adjusted EPS ($7.25), which actually beat. Now news are claiming the sell-off was due to AI capex surprise. If we go with this, -15%+ on “AI capex spending increasing” is just pure narratives and means absolutely jack since $MSFT, $GOOGL, $AMZN, $TSLA, and every single Mag7 is increasing on capex. $META doing the same and selling off doesn’t make sense, unless people believe it’s just going into a black hole with no ROI (which markets disagree since AI is basically running $SPY). Extremely strong buy on recovery once there’s time over the weekend for people to digest what actually happened. Misreads + stupid narratives can cause short-term overreactions (1–2 sessions), often reversed. $IBIT - Bitcoin ___________ It’s Bitcoin.And sitting at $110k. Bitcoin is here to stay with US government support, and with all the ongoing currency inflation + flow of money going to newer generation, there’s no better hedge against inflation than BTC. Polymarket still prices Bitcoin 40% to $130k in 2 months’ time, even if it moves up a few percent you can have upside on CCs and upside on the underlying asset. $NBIS - Nebius ___________ Core business valuation: $31–36.5B Sum-of-parts (cash, assets, portfolio): ~$10.6B (slashed 40% = ~$6.3B) Base case valuation: ~$39B → high upside even with zero growth Core business on track for ~$5B ARR (FY26–27), 60–70% gross margins, and 30% EBITDA target. Hitting $8–12B ARR (via one more hyperscaler deal + SMB expansion) could justify ~$100B valuation. No toxic debt, high GPU utilization, full-stack architecture → higher operating leverage. You can look at the bullet point comparison that I quoted so you can make your own judgement on $NBIS vs $IREN for example. However, I’ll always maintain $NBIS has the highest asymmetrical return over anything including $IREN to $CIFR due to existing hyperscaler deals, enterprise clients (Shopify, Accenture), Government Clients, 1GW capacity, high gross margins from full-stack, and many others. That’s not saying there’s not high upside from $WULF from Fluidstack + Google deals, and others from capacity. The downside risk on Nebius is the lowest. And it has really, really high upside. $TSM ______________ It’s the CENTER. OF. THE. AI. TRADE. They’ve already guided INCREASING MARGINS - which is astronomical. Revenue: $33.1B vs. $31.5B est. Earnings per Share: $2.92 vs. $2.59 est. Guidance: $32.2B – $33.4B vs. $32.0B est. They’ve beat revenue guidance, increasing margins, and it’s just astronomical how much money they’re printing. It was trading at $305–310 pre-earnings, now back at $300. It’s a $1T+ company that grew 30%+ Y/Y with their margins — what the actual. I said this about the money printer $GOOGL back at $145 and $HOOD back at $20. They print money. There's no need to debate $ALAB vs $CRDO, $IREN vs $NBIS, $AMD vs $NVDA. $TSM the center of the whole AI buildout, so it’s just a waiting game. _ There is it $MINT. Enjoy a teaser of the song, kinda a banger. 🎶
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澄清对IREN的立场，指出其实际利润率低于宣传值，强调权衡取舍。
另外，当我发布关于 $IREN 和 $NBIS 的对比，或谈论 $IREN 拥有与 $RIOT 和 $MARA 相当的能力，并指出规模化后的利润率比算力更重要时，我并非看空 IREN，只是陈述现实情况。 同样，当人们声称他们拥有 92% 的毛利率时，如果你计入折旧和其他费用，事实并非如此。他们只是进入了另一个类别，如果你按照其他高性能计算(HPC)公司核算毛利率的方式进行标准化处理，利润率会低得多。 但这并不意味着情况糟糕，总是存在权衡取舍。
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Also when I post about comparisons between $IREN and $NBIS or talking about $IREN having comparable capacity to $RIOT and $MARA, and saying margins at scale matter more than compute, I'm not bearish on IREN, just giving the reality of the situation. Same when people try claiming they have 92% gross margins, they don't when yo factor in deprecation and other expenses. They just went into another category and if you normalize it with how other HPC companies do accounting for their gross margins, margins are a lot less. But that doesn't mean it's bad, there's always tradeoffs.
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看多WYFI，警示SLNH微盘股融资风险及产能变现不确定性。
我个人对 $WYFI 持看涨态度。至于 $SLNH，人们一直声称其拥有 2.8 GW 的订单管道（与 $IREN 合作拥有 3 GW 产能等），但显然存在不利因素。 关于 SLNH：据我了解，他们从事弃电能源货币化（curtailed energy monetization），即建设模块化数据中心或风能/太阳能农场，其产生的能源超过电网可接受的限度。 他们更像是一个开发商/运营商，试图建设这些站点并谈判获取廉价能源。但我们尚未看到这种模式实现规模化或获得全额融资。 这只是潜在产能。而且这通常无法转化为高利润率和高自由现金流（FCF）。 这也是为什么它的市值低于 3 亿美元，且起步时低于 7000 万美元。如果他们能说服足够的散户投资者通过稀释股权提供资金，然后用这些资金为其所有产能管道和 GPU 融资，那么风险/回报比是值得的。 否则，如果该板块发生什么事，或者人们对 $SLNH 转看跌，那么整个计划就会消失，公司就会倒闭。 这只是我个人的看法，人们不能指望一只从 8000 万美元涨到 2.8 亿美元的微盘股没有下行风险，然后只是盲目吹嘘 2.8 GW 的产能。
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I'm personally bullish on $WYFI. As for $SLNH, People keep claiming 2.8 GW pipeline (3 GW capacity with $IREN, etc) but obviously there's downsides. So for SLNH: from my understanding, they do curtailed energy monetization, where they build modular data-centers wind or solar farms that produce more energy than the grid can accept. They're more of a developer/operator trying to build these sites and negotiate cheap energy access. But we haven't seen this type of model scaled or fully financed yet. It's potential capacity. And that doesn't translate into high margins and FCF lot of time. There's a reason it's a sub <$300m marketcap and started off sub $70M. If they can convince enough retail to give them money for dilution, and then use that to finance all their capacity pipelines and GPUs, then the risk/reward is worth it. Otherwise if something happens with the sector or people grow bearish on $SLNH, then the whole plan just goes disappears and the company goes under. That's just my personal take, people can't really expect some $80m -> $280m microcap stock to not have downside risk and then just shill 2.8 GW capacity.
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感谢粉丝，强调深度研究对评估新型云服务商的重要性。
@moninvestor 谢谢！ 是的，这篇内容花了我不少时间撰写，但我一直认为更有实质性的内容能帮助散户在审视从 $IREN 到 $CRWV 的 Neoclouds（新型云服务商）时做出更明智的决策。 不过，财报发布后我可能得更新大量信息，哈哈。
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@moninvestor Appreciate it! Yeah this took me quite a bit of time to writeup, but I always thought more substance would help retail make more informed decisions when looking at Neoclouds from $IREN to $CRWV. I'll probably have to update a lot of information after earnings though lol
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对比IREN与MARA/RIOT产能，质疑灵活性溢价是否合理
情况很微妙，但你确实可以将产能和管道与 $IREN、$RIOT、$MARA 进行比较，因为产能本身是不变的。主要区别在于灵活性（Optionality，即公司在需求变化时重新配置产能的能力）。如果你认为 $IREN 的定位更好，那当然可以。关于 $MARA，你提到了基于集装箱的 ASIC 矿场作为例子。然而，它们仍然可以改造为高性能计算(HPC)，只是成本稍高。正如你所说，$IREN 拥有设计建造的数据中心，配备架空地板、光纤互连、HVAC/液冷系统，因此非常适合 HPC。转型有不同的层级，但在转型过程中产能保持不变。我想表达的观点是，这是一个涉及利润率等多方面的复杂问题。你不能简单地说 X 产能 = X 收入/市值，否则你可以轻易指出 $MARA 和 $RIOT 拥有与 $IREN 相似的产能。至于这种灵活性是否值 100 亿美元的差价，我不确定。
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It's nuanced, but you can definitely compare capacity and pipeline with $IREN, $RIOT, $MARA, since capacity doesn't change. The main difference is optionality (how well a company can repurpose capacity as demand shifts). If you were to argue $IREN is better positioned, sure. With $MARA, you mentioned container-based ASIC farms as an example. However, they can still be retrofitted to HPC, it's just slightly more costly. $IREN as you mentioned, designed built data centers with raised floors, fiber interconnects, HVAC/liquid cooling. so it does well for HPC. There's different levels to pivots, but capacity remains the same through pivots. The point I was making was that it's multifaceted with margins, and everything else. You can't just say X Capacity = X revenue/Marketcap , otherwise you can easily just point to $MARA and $RIOT with similar capacities with $IREN. But whether or not optionality is worth a 10B difference, I don't know.
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对比IREN与矿企估值，指出HPC转型执行风险及高估值隐忧。
关于 $IREN，人们不断提出论点：~3 GW 产能对应 ~170 亿美元市值，理应值 X 市值。 $RIOT 也有类似产能：1GW Corsicana，700MW Rockdale，加上其他，总计 ~3GW 产能（BTC 挖矿 + 管道项目合计）。~70 亿美元市值。 $MARA 也有 1.7GW，加上 3+ GW 管道项目。~67 亿美元市值。 $IREN 确实相比其他两家转向了高性能计算(HPC)，但我们肯定已经看到 480%+ 的涨幅已将其定价。 公允的观点是，H.C. Wainwright 的分析师表示“IREN AI 云业务已达到非理性繁荣的程度”。 此前我们仅关注产能，但市场将开始对利润率(execution risk)和执行风险进行定价。 取决于你的判断：你认为 $IREN 能否像 $CRWV 花费数年数十亿美元那样执行并扩展至 HPC？或者当 $ORCL 这样 7500 亿美元的超大规模云厂商以 14% 毛利率都未能做到时，他们能否做到？ 此外，如果那么容易，Riot 和 Mara 及其他高 GW 产能矿企早就全面转向 HPC 并达到类似的市值重估了。 这是人们不喜欢谈论的下行风险。然而，上行空间在于你提到的产能/基础设施 = 更高的收入潜力。
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With $IREN people keep making the argument about ~3 GW capacity at a ~17B marketcap, deserves to be X marketcap. $RIOT has a similar capacity too: 1GW Corsicana, 700MW Rockdale, and misc with ~3GW capacity (total if you combine BTC mining + pipeline). ~7B marketcap $MARA also has 1.7GW with 3+ GW pipeline as well. ~6.7B marketcap $IREN did make the HPC pivot compared to the other two but we've definitely seen that priced in with the 480%+ runup. Fair note is that analysts from H.C. Wainright have said "IREN AI cloud business has reached a point of irrational exuberance." Before, we looked solely at capacity, but markets will start pricing in margins and execution risk. It's up to your decision whether you think $IREN can execute and scale into HPC like $CRWV spent years and billions doing. Or if they can do so when $ORCL, a 750B hyperscaler failed to do so with 14% gross margins. Also if it were that easy Riot and Mara and other high GW capacity miners would have just full-sent HPC and would reach similar marketcap re-ratings too. That's the downside risk people don't like talking about. However, upside is that capacity/infrastructure = higher revenue potential that you mentioned.
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对比NBIS与IREN：前者低险高透，后者高险高赔。
是的，确实如此！别担心。 估值涉及产能（设备能力）以外的众多要素。以美国的 $ORCL（甲骨文）为例，他们最终失去了利润优势，因为即便在该规模下，其毛利率也仅为 14%。 利润率（Margin）至关重要。 $NBIS 像 Amazon Web Services 一样开展全栈业务，因此在 Neo-Cloud 行业中拥有最高的利润率。 另一方面，许多转向 AI 计算业务的较小公司，在规模化后的利润率尚不明确。 不过，$NBIS 在合同等方面具有最高的透明度，目前只需等待规模扩张。 对于 $IREN 而言，关键在于能否获得像 $NBIS（Nebius）那样的 $MSFT 超大规模云厂商合同，以及在规模化时能否维持高利润率，这是一场“赌注”。 正因如此，我说 Nebius “下行风险最低，明年有 300%以上的上涨空间”。 而 $IREN 风险较大，但由于估值较低，若成功则回报可能更大。
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Yes it does! No worries 評価にはキャパシティ（設備能力）以上の多くの要素が関わっています。 アメリカの $ORCL（オラクル）を例に見ると、彼らは最終的に利益を失いました。というのも、その規模でも粗利益率がわずか 14% にとどまったからです。 マージン（利益率）は非常に重要です。 $NBIS は Amazon Web Services のようにフルスタックで事業を展開しているため、ネオクラウド業界の中でも最も高い利益率を誇ります。 一方で、AI コンピュート事業へ転換した多くのマイナー企業については、スケールした際の利益率がまだ明確に見えていません。 とはいえ、$NBIS は契約面などで最も高い透明性を持っており、あとは規模拡大を待つだけという段階にあります。 $IREN の場合、$NBIS（ネビウス）が得たような $MSFT とのハイパースケーラー契約を結べるかどうか、そしてスケール時に高い利益率を維持できるかどうかという「賭け」になります。 だからこそ、私はネビウスについて「下方リスクが最も低く、来年には 300%以上の上昇余地がある」と述べました。 一方で $IREN はリスクが大きいものの、評価額がかなり低いため、成功した場合のリターンはさらに大きくなる可能性があります。
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对比NBIS与IREN，认为NBIS因高ARR和现金储备更具优势。
两者都不错。无论选哪个都不会错。 但是，如果要在最小化风险的同时追求巨大回报，$NBIS 显然优于 $IREN。 他们的净资产超过 100 亿美元，其中 58 亿美元为现金，其余为处于超大规模扩展中的投资组合公司（如 Clickhouse）的股票。 Clickhouse 为 Anthropic 和 $META 提供基础技术。 此外，凭借与 $MSFT 的合同，其年度经常性收入（ARR）在基准情况下达到 49 亿美元。 即使增长完全停滞，其估值预计也将超过 400 亿美元。 然而，考虑到其季度营收增长率超过 1000%，我认为再获得一家超大规模云服务商的合同，其市值就有望达到 1000 亿美元。 相比之下，$IREN 以投资产能的形式存在，目前除 Poolhouse 外，没有明确的企业合同等前景。 在这方面，$NBIS 已经直接与微软、Shopify、埃森哲等政府机构和企业进行交易。
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Both are good. どちらを選んでも間違いではありません。 しかし、リスクを最小限に抑えつつ大きなリターンを狙うなら、$IREN よりも $NBIS が明らかに優れています。 彼らの純資産は 100 億ドル以上で、そのうち 58 億ドルが現金、残りは Clickhouse のようなハイパースケーリング中のポートフォリオ企業の株式です。 Clickhouse は Anthropic や $META を支える基盤技術を提供しています。 さらに、$MSFT との契約により、ベースケースでの年間経常収益（ARR）は 49 億ドルに達しています。 仮に成長が完全に止まったとしても、評価額は 400 億ドル以上と見込まれます。 しかし、四半期ごとの収益成長率が 1000% を超えていることを考えると、もう1件ハイパースケーラーとの契約を獲得すれば、時価総額は 1000 億ドルに達する可能性があると見ています。 一方で $IREN は、キャパシティへの投資という形になりますが、現時点では Poolhouse 以外に企業契約などの明確な見通しがありません。 その点、$NBIS はすでに Microsoft、Shopify、Accenture などの政府機関や企業と直接取引を行っています。
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AI矿工股将分化，新云厂商言论显著影响市场定价。
这几乎适用于所有矿工，而不仅仅是 $IREN 和 $CIFR 这两只股票。话虽如此，我们很可能会看到资金向表现优异的个股（如 $WULF 或 $NBIS）集中，而不是所有股票同涨同跌。这就像当 $NVDA CEO 发表关于量子计算的评论后，所有量子概念股下跌了 45%。来自领先的新云厂商（Neoclouds）关于利润率与裸金属（bare metal）等话题的评论，确实会对市场如何定价产生实质性影响。
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This is almost every single miner across the board, not just two stocks $IREN and $CIFR. That being said it’s likely we’ll see people consolidate into individual performers that do well (eg. $WULF or $NBIS) rather than everything go up and down together. Also it’s like when $NVDA CEO made a comment about quantum and all quantum stocks went down 45%. Commentary about stuff like margins vs. bare metal do have material impacts on how markets price things in when it comes from the leading Neoclouds
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指出AI云与挖矿股出现早期分化，市场开始定价利润率差异。
当你提到6个月、12个月、3年时，你误解了帖子的细微差别。 帖子的要点是，我们现在看到通常同步交易的股票以及$NBIS等低贝塔股票开始出现早期分化。 本周：$NBIS: +7.25% | $CIFR: -7.15% $RIOT: -11.5% $BITF: -19.92% $CLSK: -11.63% $IREN: -5.54% $BTBT: -11.51%。 这仅仅是对分化的观察。我想指出，市场可能开始计入利润率差异。 当新云(Neocloud)领导者发布关于全栈利润率(full-stack margins)的此类帖子时，市场会有反应。
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You're misunderstanding the nuance of the post when you say 6 months, 12 months, 3 years. The point of the post was that we're now seeing early divergence of the names that usually trade in sync + $NBIS and others that trade lower beta. This week: $NBIS: +7.25% | $CIFR: -7.15% $RIOT: -11.5% $BITF: -19.92% $CLSK: -11.63% $IREN: -5.54% $BTBT: -11.51%. This is just an observation from about the divergence. And I wanted to point out that it's likely margin differences that the market's starting to price in. When the Neocloud leaders make posts about full-stack margins like these, markets react.
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HPC矿企表现分化，资金从传统矿企转向新云，IREN相对抗跌。
这不仅仅是关于 $IREN，而是关乎高性能计算(HPC)矿企。如果非要比较，$IREN 的表现可能更为出色，尤其是与 $CLSK、$BITF 等其他公司相比。 例如： $NBIS: +7.25% $CIFR: -7.15% $RIOT: -11.5% $BITF: -19.92% $CLSK: -11.63% $IREN: -5.54% $BTBT: -11.51% 再次强调，这可能与比特币价格的多重因素有关。但最近很明显，它们之间出现了分化，而通常情况下它们会同向波动（如 $NBIS、$CRWV 具有较低的贝塔值）。 我会将叙事重心的变化——从利润率转向产能——作为矿企抛售以及资金整合进某些新云(Neoclouds)的原因之一。
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This isn't just about $IREN, it's around HPC miners. If anything IREN is probably one of the more exceptional performers, especially vs. $CLSK, $BITF, and others. EG. $NBIS: +7.25% _ $CIFR: -7.15% $RIOT: -11.5% $BITF: -19.92% $CLSK: -11.63% $IREN: -5.54% $BTBT: -11.51% Again, it's probably multi-faceted around Bitcoin prices. But it's pretty apparent as of recently, there's been divergence when normally they would move together (with $NBIS, $CRWV) lower beta. And I'd cite narrative changes around margins vs. capacity being a part of miner sell-off and consolidation into certain Neoclouds.
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市场定价重心从产能转向利润率，导致全栈云与矿企走势分化。
所以我认为你们误解了 @SathyeshBhat @midlevelcruiser 观点的细微差别。在资本市场开始关注产能建设(capacity buildout)之前，我们曾看到全线普涨。直到**最近**（上周左右），我们才开始看到 $CRWV、$NBIS 以及来自矿企的“全栈”(full-stack) Neoclouds 出现分化。它们通常会同涨同跌，且波动率(beta)较低的 Nebius 相比 $IREN 等标的波动更小。这只是评论：目前市场可能开始更多地将规模化后的利润率(margins at scale)而非单纯的产能纳入定价，我们开始看到不同板块的标的走势出现分化。随着公司高管今天发文强调全栈的重要性，这一趋势也愈发明显。但总体而言，你说得对，短期时间框架并不重要，我也并未将其作为事实依据。
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So I think you're missing the nuance of the point @SathyeshBhat @midlevelcruiser. Before markets cared about capacity buildout and we saw the major runup on everything across the board. Only **just recently** last week or so, we're starting to see a divergence with $CRWV, $NBIS and "full-stack" Neoclouds from miners. They would normally move up/down together, and Nebius which is lower beta than the others would move less than $IREN for example. This is just commentary that as of now, markets are possibly starting to price in margins at scale more than capacity than say 1 month ago and we're starting to see more things move in different baskets. And it's becoming more apparent too with executives from the companies pointing out why full-stack matters with posts today. But generally you're right short timeframes don't matter and I'm not using it as a fact.
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看好全栈新云$NBIS利润率优势，减持矿工股。
市场开始定价： 像 $NBIS 这样的 AWS 式全栈新云（Neocloud）与 $CIFR、$BITF、$CLSK 等矿工之间的分化。 这就是我卖出 $IREN、$WULF 等并集中持仓 Nebius 的原因。 为什么？ 💹 利润率 > ⚡️ 产能。 就在今天： Nebius 的 CTO 表示： “市场上几乎没有真正的‘新云’。所谓的新云不过是一堆裸金属服务器，上面堆砌了大量第三方软件。” 耸人听闻？完全不是——如果你认真对待“云”这个概念，而不仅仅是堆砌硬件盒子。 Danila 解释了裸金属运营商很快就会发现 Nebius 已经在大规模层面解决的那些挑战。 这正是我指出 $NBIS 拥有最高非对称上行潜力的原因，因为矿工在规模化时可能会在利润率上挣扎。 我们还看到 Nebius 联合创始人 Roman Chernin 在《福布斯》的文章中总结，AI 经济需要一种新的、全栈的、AI 原生基础设施，而不是拼凑起来的系统： “你可以从一个供应商购买机架，将它们连接起来……但从长远来看，经济性、灵活性和速度取决于你是否控制自己的全栈。” “如果你控制全栈，你就控制产品、性能和经济效益。” _ 这并不意味着像 $WYFI、$APLD、$WULF 等其他高性能计算（HPC）公司没有增长空间，新云板块才刚刚开始上涨（尤其是当我们看到 $META 或 $AMZN 的财报时）。 然而，在投机阶段，我们已经为矿工的产能建设定价——大多数已经上涨了 50–200%+。 但谈到执行层面，那些控制全栈的人将在利润率上获胜。 我们看到 $CRWV 亲自体会到了这一点，花费数十亿美元进行软件收购，利用率仍低于 $NBIS（根据白皮书）。 我们也看到一家市值 8000 亿美元的超大规模云厂商（Oracle）未能建立其全栈，毛利率仅为 14%。 如果 Oracle 都无法完全整合其软件，CoreWeave 仍在花费数年时间尝试这样做，小型矿工如何转型？ “仅 Type-1”运营商的论点将艰难地发现规模化时的利润率压缩是什么样子的。 正如《福布斯》文章总结： “归根结底，如果你只是连接盒子或在无法控制的基础设施上构建服务，你在规模和效率的游戏里将受到限制。” $NBIS 今天就已经拥有全栈。
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Markets are starting to price in: A divergence between AWS-style full-stack Neoclouds like $NBIS and miners such as $CIFR, $BITF, $CLSK, and others. This is the reason I sold off $IREN $WULF and others, and consolidated into Nebius. Why? 💹 Margins > ⚡️Capacity. Just today: The CTO of Nebius stated: “Almost no Neocloud in the market is actually a cloud. As in a bunch of baremetal with a ton of third-party software slapped on top.” Provocative? Absolutely not — if you take the term “cloud” seriously, not just as slapping on a bunch of hardware boxes. Danila explained how baremetal operators will soon discover the challenges Nebius has already solved at scale. And that’s exactly why I stated $NBIS has the highest asymmetrical upside, since miners may struggle with margins at scale. We’ve also seen a Forbes article by Nebius Co-Founder Roman Chernin, summarize how the AI economy requires a new, full-stack, AI-native infrastructure, not the stitched-together systems: “You can buy racks from one supplier, cable them together... but in the long term, economics, flexibility and speed depend on you controlling your own stack.” “If you control the stack, you control the product, the performance, and the economics.” _ This doesn’t mean there’s no room for other HPC companies like $WYFI, $APLD, $WULF, and others to grow, and the Neocloud segment is just beginning its run-up (especially when we look at $META or $AMZN earnings). However, during the speculation phase, we’ve already priced in capacity buildout with miners - most are already up 50–200%+. But when it comes to execution, those who control the full stack will win on margins. We’ve seen $CRWV figure that out firsthand, spending billions on software acquisitions and still maintaining lower utilization than $NBIS (as per the whitepaper). We’ve also seen how an $800B hyperscaler (Oracle) failed to build out its stack, running at 14% gross margins. If Oracle couldn’t fully integrate its software, and CoreWeave is still spending years trying to do so, how will small miners pivot? Arguments from “Type-1 only” operators will find out the hard way what margin compression at scale looks like. As the Forbes article concludes: “At the end of the day, if you’re just cabling the boxes or building service on top of infrastructure you don’t control, you’re limited in the game of scale and efficiency.” $NBIS already has that full stack today.
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点评GLXY等标的表现，IREN遭降级，CIFR与CRWV表现良好。
@mikelfilko 是的，$GLXY、$NBIS 和 $WLAC 是一组不错的标的。我认为只有 $IREN 的投资者对今天的双重降级感到有些意外，但其余标的表现良好，例如 $CIFR 获得升级，$CRWV 获得美国政府合同。
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@mikelfilko Yeah $GLXY, $NBIS, and $WLAC are a good bunch. I think only $IREN investors were in a bit of a surprise with the double downgrade today but the rest are performing well like $CIFR got upgraded and $CRWV US gov contracts.
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IREN遭下调至卖出，分析师指其云业务估值非理性繁荣。
把它当作原因挺可笑的哈哈，但肯定不是。 不过，$IREN 的投资者如果认为能以93%的毛利率(Gross Margins)扩展到数十亿美元的收入，那他们对利润率(Margins)的计算确实非理性地错了，但无论如何它还是一只好股票。 “H.C. Wainwright 将 IREN 从买入(Buy)大幅下调至卖出(Sell)，目标价(Target Price)从36美元上调至45美元。分析师在研报中告诉投资者，应在当前股价水平获利了结。该公司认为，投资者对 Iren 云业务(Cloud Business)的乐观情绪‘已达到非理性繁荣(Irrational Exuberance)的地步。’”
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Funny to think of it as the cause lol but definitely not. But yeah $IREN investors did their calculations on margins irrationally wrong if they think they can scale to billions of revenue off 93% gross margins but it’s a good stock either way. “H.C. Wainwright double downgraded (IREN) to Sell from Buy with a of $45, up from $36. Investors should be taking profits at current share levels, the analyst tells investors in a research note. The firm believes investor optimism around Iren’s cloud business “has reached a point of irrational exuberance.”
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宏观视角下，利用年底季节性、降息预期及机构资金流向，激进配置新云与AI赢家股。
宏观分析： 关注领域：资金流向 · 代理指标 · 季节性 · 仓位配置 布局： _ 新云(Neocloud)：$NBIS · $IREN · $CIFR · $DGXX 连接性(Connectivity)：$ALAB · $CRDO · $CLS 机器人(Robotics)：$KRKNF · $ONDS · $RR 国家安全(National Security)：$RKLB · $MP · $KTOS · $CCCX 能源(Energy)：$FLNC · $EOSE · $TE · $SEI 半导体(Semi)：$TSM · $AMD · $NVDA · $MU _ 第一部分 - 机构资金流向 进入10-11月，对冲基金卖出表现不佳的股票以锁定税务亏损并重新平衡仓位。 这造成了由税务亏损收割(tax-loss harvesting)带来的机械性下行压力，即轮动年内亏损股并轮动至赢家股。一旦这种抛售结束且洗售(wash sale)窗口期过期，机构和量化基金通常在12月中下旬或1月初回购这些超跌股。 上述布局展示了所有年内上涨的股票，通常你希望在年底通过收割亏损股并加仓赢家股来激进配置。 像$SNAP、$ETOR、$DRFT等可能在基本面被低估的股票，很大程度上受机构仓位配置影响。除非你想等待2-3个月并在此期间积累筹码（这也是有效策略），否则顺势而为更好。 第二部分 - 代理指标(Proxies) 新云 - 我们看到了$META与$CRWV的交易，$WULF与$GOOGL及Fluidstack的合资企业，$MSFT对OpenAI的计算需求增加等，这对整个新云板块极其看涨。因此该板块可能继续跑赢大盘。 国家安全 - 我们看到特朗普持有$MP等关键材料公司的股份，并开始关注支持更多国家安全风险，如量子计算公司$RGTI、$IONQ等。这对$RKLB等其他国家安全建设板块总体利好。 半导体 - $TSM是半导体建设和需求的最佳代理指标，其远期营收预测令人难以置信。人们常犯的错误是看$ASML的晶圆厂周期，但这并非正确的代理指标。 我们可以用$CLS作为连接性的代理指标，或用$BE的财报作为能源的代理指标等。 但通常，你可以通过该领域的其他公司很好地判断哪个板块正在跑赢或可能表现良好。 第三部分 - 季节性 11月和12月是股市表现最强的月份。 这更多是心理层面的，因为情绪因素。但也部分出于机械性原因，因为基金在10月进行税务亏损收割重新部署现金后，“追逐业绩”以锁定年度收益。 第四部分 - 仓位配置 这完全取决于你自身的风险水平。例如，对于较小的$10万投资组合，你可以像这样激进配置： 25% $NBIS, 10% $IREN, 10% $ALAB, 10% $CRDO, 5% $KRKNF, 5% $FLNC, 5% $TSM看涨期权, 20% 杂项或低贝塔(如$HOOD), 10% 现金。 如果你想做“赌徒”(degen)，现在可能是最好的时机。我之前举过一个ETF的例子说明如何配置，但我通常不建议将整个投资组合集中在单只股票上。 还有其他未提及的板块如金融科技/电商($HOOD, $SOFI, $DLO, $SEA)等，你可以自行替换。 第五部分 - 宏观 人们担心AI泡沫，但泡沫通常在美联储收紧时破裂，我们最近已在许多泡沫股中看到修正。但现在我们将迎来另外两次降息和政府重新开放（这是一个奇怪的催化剂，但确实存在）。 根据Polymarket，有86%的概率再降息两次，这很疯狂。随着三次降息，成长股和小盘股往往因廉价资金和债务缓解激发风险偏好而飙升。大量流动性最终将流入成长股和小盘股。 _ 这只是总体趋势，你可以选择自己的股票篮子，或任何你认为不错的。我个人对新云、AI建设最看涨，并更倾向于非对称(asymmetrical)选择，但各凭喜好（例如人们在能源/机器人或金融科技上有大量仓位）。 另需注意，即使某只股票如$RGTI上涨500%，也要确保其上涨有基本面支撑（如新云、远期营收）。 但总体而言，如果你只能记住一点，那就是在两次降息、年底季节性和向赢家股集中配置时激进出击，这是前所未有的最佳时机。
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Macro Analysis: Focus Areas: Flows · Proxies · Seasonality · Positioning Setup : _ Neocloud: $NBIS · $IREN · $CIFR · $DGXX Connectivity: $ALAB · $CRDO · $CLS Robotics: $KRKNF · $ONDS · $RR National Security: $RKLB · $MP · $KTOS · $CCCX Energy: $FLNC · $EOSE · $TE · $SEI Semi: $TSM · $AMD · $NVDA · $MU _ Part 1 - Institutional Flows Into October–November, hedge funds sell underperformers to lock in tax losses and rebalance positions. This creates mechanical downside pressure from tax-loss harvesting by rotating losers YTD and rotating into winners. Once this selling ends and wash sale windows expire, institutions and quants often buy back these oversold names in uually mid tolate Dec or early January. The setup above shows every stock that up YTD, usually you want to position aggressively into these EOY by tax-harvesting losers and scaling into positions that win. Stocks like $SNAP, $ETOR, $DRFT, and others that might be undervalued fundamentally is largely affected by institutional positioning. It's better to go with the flow rather than fight against it unless you want to wait out 2-3 months and accumulate during this time (which is a valid strategy as well). Part 2 - Proxies Neocloud - We've seen $META x $CRWV deal, $WULF x $GOOGL x Fluidstack JV, $MSFT having more compute demand from OpenAI, and others, which is extremely bullish for the whole Neocloud sector. So sector will likely continue to outperform. National Security - We've seen Trump take stakes into critical material companies like $MP and start looking into backing more national security risks such as quantum names like $RGTI, $IONQ, and others. This is generally positive for other names like $RKLB or other national security buildout across the board. Semi - $TSM is the best proxy for semiconductor buildout and demand and their forward revenue projections are absolutely insane. People make the mistake of looking at Fab cycles from $ASML but it's not the right proxy. We can go on with $CLS as a proxy for connectivity or $BE earnings for energy, etc. But generally, you can get a good idea on what sector is outperforming or is likely to do well based on other companies in the area. Part 3- Seasonality November and December are the strongest months for equities. This one is more psychological because of sentiment. But also partly mechanical because funds “chase performance” to lock in annual gains after they redeploy cash from tax loss harvesting in October. Part 4 - Positioning This is purely based on your own risk level. For example, with a smaller $100k portfolio you can be fine positioning aggressively like: 25% $NBIS, 10% $IREN, 10% $ALAB, 10% $CRDO 5% KRKNF, 5% FLNC, 5% TSM calls, 20% misc or low beta (eg. $HOOD), 10% cash. If you want to be a degen, now is probably the best time to do so though. I gave an example ETF earlier on how you can position but I typically don't recommend concentrating your whole portfolio into single stocks. There are other segments I didn't mention like Fintech/Commerce ( $HOOD, $SOFI, $DLO, $SEA) and so on but you can plug and play. Part 5 - Macro People worry about AI bubbles, but bubbles pop when Federal Reserve tightens, and we recently got a correction in a lot of bubbly names. But now we're going into 2 more rate cuts and government re-opening (which is such a weird catalyst but it is one). We have a 86% chance of 2 more rate cuts which is insane (as per Polymarket). And, with a triple rate cut, growth and small caps tend to surge as cheaper money and debt easing spark risk appetite. Floods of liquidity will eventually flow into growth stocks and small caps. _ This is just the general trend, you can pick your own basket of stocks, or whatever you feel is great. I'm personally the most bullish on Neoclouds, AI buildout and positioned more heavily toward asymmetrical picks but to each their own (eg. people have large positioning in energy/robotics, or fintech) Also something to note is that even if something goes up 500% like $RGTI, make sure the rise backed by fundamentals (eg. Neoclouds, forward revenue) But generally if you had to take one piece away, being aggressive into two more rate cuts, end of year seasonality, and consolidating into winners is the best time ever for it.
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强调HPC矿企执行风险与利润率，解释为何选择$NBIS。
再次强调，这并非针对 $BITF 或 $CLSK 等矿企的看空帖子。我在主题上对 Neoclouds 极度看好，并对 $WULF 或 $IREN 等特定矿企持看涨态度。但喜欢它们并不意味着我应该持有所有相关标的。 这是一篇关于执行风险和选择性的细致分析，因为并非每家从事高性能计算(HPC)的矿企/公司都能成功。 我特别指的是在规模化时的利润率，涉及的是 HPC 业务板块，而非比特币(BTC)挖矿或储备（如果你了解我的历史，知道我对后者也极度看好）。 除了解释我个人为何选择 $NBIS 外，我并不支持或反对任何特定的矿企。我相信该领域还会有像 $WULF 这样的其他赢家。 我只是在强调执行风险，并指出人们看待这些公司的视角（关注兆瓦级建设而非考虑利润率）可能是错误的。
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Again this is not a bear post on miners like $BITF or $CLSK. I am omega bullish thematically on Neoclouds and bullish on certain miners like $WULF or $IREN. Just because I like them doesn't mean I should own them all. This is a nuanced post on execution risk and selectivity as not every single miner/company that does HPC will succeed. I'm specifically talking about HPC segments when it comes to margins at scale, not BTC mining or reserves (which I am also super bullish on if you know my history). I'm also not arguing for or against any specific miner aside from explaining why I personally chose $NBIS. I'm sure there will be other winners like $WULF in the space too. I'm simply highlighting execution risk and pointing out that the lens people are looking at the companies (MW buildout instead of considering margins) might be wrong.
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看好Neocloud板块，但提示规模化执行风险并调整持仓。
@theBTCMiningGuy 所以我提出的观点是细微的，我仍然看好 $IREN、$WULF、$CIFR 等股票，并相信 Neocloud 板块将迅速扩张。只是指出在规模化过程中并非所有执行都会完美，存在现实的 downside risk（下行风险），我个人也调整了投资组合头寸。
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@theBTCMiningGuy So the point I made was nuanced, I’m still bullish on stocks like $IREN, $WULF, $CIFR and believe the Neocloud sector will expand rapidly. Just pointing out realistic downside risk in that not all execution will be pretty at scale and I personally changed portfolio positioning
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博主回应质疑，指出对方缺乏定量论据，仅以性格攻击和拖延回应。
@jarad1821 我很乐意现在就回应关于 $IREN 或 $NBIS 的任何观点。但到目前为止，你还没有给出任何定量论据供我反驳。你所做的只是以“过度自信”等性格特征为由说我的论点错误，然后默认“几年后再见”。
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@jarad1821 I'm happy to address any points about $IREN or $NBIS now. But so far you haven't given a single quantitative argument to respond to. All you've done was say my thesis is wrong because of character traits such as "overconfidence", then default to "come back in a few years"
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作者认为NBIS风险收益比优于IREN，但承认IREN具高投机潜力。
嗯，我仍然坚持认为 $NBIS 具有最高的非对称回报(asymmetrical return)，与 $IREN 相比，其下行风险更低，上行空间更大。这得益于其现有的超大规模客户(hyperscaler)合约、随客户同步扩张的子公司，以及拥有全栈(full-stack)能力的更高利润率业务。 另一方面，我同意 $IREN 因其产能和基础设施而具有极高的投机性上行空间。 我曾同时持有这两只股票，同时持有两者也没问题，但我认为在矿企股价上涨后，Nebius 的风险收益比(risk-reward)更好。 讨论这些观点很好！
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Hmm, I still maintain $NBIS has the highest asymmetrical return, with lower downside, high upside compared to $IREN with existing hyperscaler deals, subsidiaries scaling alongside them, and a higher margin business with full-stack. On the other hand, I'd agree $IREN has a high speculative upside due to capacity and infrastructure. I've owned both and it's fine have both, I just think risk-reward is better for Nebius after the runup on miners. It's good to discuss those points!
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展示Neocloud板块个股一个月涨幅，重申看好并集中持仓NBIS。
Neocloud（新云）的投资逻辑经受住了时间的考验。 一个月后： $CRWV 120.34 → 135.64 (+12.7%) $NBIS 107.70 → 126.49 (+17.5%) $WULF 10.63 → 13.69 (+28.8%) $IREN 41.68 → 64.69 (+55.2%) $CIFR 11.47 → 20.70 (+80.4%) $BITF 2.54 → 4.51 (+77.6%) $WYFI 22.83 → 36.52 (+59.9%) $GRRR 19.90 → 16.95 (−14.8%) $SLNH 2.75 → 2.81 (+2.2%) $RIOT 17.69 → 23.01 (+30.1%) $MARA 16.13 → 19.61 (+21.6%) $CLSK 12.96 → 20.21 (+56.0%) $HUT 33.16 → 49.95 (+50.6%) 这仅仅是史上最大规模AI数据中心建设浪潮的开始，金融圈(X)上的所有人现在入场都还为时过早。 我对整个Neocloud板块非常看好，但个人因$NBIS具有最高的非对称回报潜力而集中持仓。
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The Neocloud thesis aged well. 1 month later: $CRWV 120.34 → 135.64 (+12.7%) $NBIS 107.70 → 126.49 (+17.5%) $WULF 10.63 → 13.69 (+28.8%) $IREN 41.68 → 64.69 (+55.2%) $CIFR 11.47 → 20.70 (+80.4%) $BITF 2.54 → 4.51 (+77.6%) $WYFI 22.83 → 36.52 (+59.9%) $GRRR 19.90 → 16.95 (−14.8%) $SLNH 2.75 → 2.81 (+2.2%) $RIOT 17.69 → 23.01 (+30.1%) $MARA 16.13 → 19.61 (+21.6%) $CLSK 12.96 → 20.21 (+56.0%) $HUT 33.16 → 49.95 (+50.6%) This is only the beginning of the largest AI data center buildout in history and everyone on finx is still early. I'm very bullish on the Neocloud sector across the board, but personally have concentration in $NBIS due to the highest asymmetrical return.
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博主发帖后，NBIS等股票出现罕见反向波动。
@RJCcapital 短期股价意义不大，但看到通常低贝塔值（且与矿企正相关）的 $NBIS 在我发帖后首次反向波动，这很有趣。 $NBIS: +7.71% $CIFR: -1.21% $BITF: -2.21% $IREN: +2.35% $WULF: +0.08%
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@RJCcapital Short term stock price don't mean much but it is pretty interesting seeing $NBIS that's usually lower beta (and miners that go up in correlation) start to move in reverse for the first time after my post $NBIS: +7.71% $CIFR: -1.21% $BITF: - 2.21% $IREN: +2.35% $WULF: +.08%
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反驳IREN支持者，指出其拥有模式虚高毛利，NBIS租赁模式调整后利润率更优。
所以当讨论转向人身攻击时，可能意味着你的论点站不住脚。 大喊“我赢了”、“被喷了”、“闭嘴”，并进行诸如“财务文盲”之类的人身攻击以乞求 $IREN 受众的点赞，在关心实质内容的独立思考者看来并不光彩。 但既然你并非善意讨论，我就此收尾：你曲解了成本结构，且未对利润率进行标准化处理。 仅看你的陈述：“$IREN 支付的折旧微乎其微，几乎不影响利润率。”然后将其与财报数据（2025财年 -1.81亿美元）对比，一切不言自明。 但我再次把这段话放这里供你重读： “计入费用确认、折旧摊销(D&A)及其他 overhead 后，$IREN 的利润率可能降至60%以下。 $IREN 拥有数据中心，将巨额基础设施成本（服务器、机架、设施）计入资产负债表，随后通过折旧摊销(D&A)计入运营支出(OpEx)，从而虚高了92%的毛利率数字。 $NBIS 租赁容量，因此同样的成本作为租金、电力和带宽出现在销售成本(COGS)中，完全成本约为71.2%，但正如你所说，部分基础设施计入了运营支出。 $NBIS 的20-F文件指出：‘销售成本主要包括数据中心设施的运营和托管成本，以及数据中心内的电力、公用事业和维护成本……’ 如果你将 $IREN 的季度折旧摊销（约7520万美元）和基础设施 overhead 重新分配到销售成本中，$NBIS 以更高的完全加载利润率表现更优。"
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So when a discussion shifts to personal attacks, it probably means your thesis is not holding up. Screaming "I WIN", "GET ROASTED", "SHUT YOU UP" and going into personal attacks like "financially illiterate" to beg for $IREN audience likes doesn't look too good to independent thinkers who care about substance. But just to close it out since you're not discussing in good faith, you're misrepresenting the cost structure and not normalizing margins. Just looking at your statements like "The depreciation $IREN pays is so minuscule that it hardly impacts margins at all." and then just comparing it to the financial reports like (-$181M FY 2025) says it all. But I'll just drop this here again for you to re-read: "With expense recognition and with D&A and other overhead, $IREN margins can drop below 60%. For $IREN owning datacenters pushes massive infrastructure costs (servers, racks, facilities) into the balance sheet and later into OpEx (via D&A), inflating that 92% gross margin number. $NBIS leases capacity, so those same costs appear in COGS, as rent, power, and bandwidth to a fuller cst 71.2%., but as you mentioned some infra goes into opex. NBIS’s 20-F:" Cost of revenues primarily consists of costs of operation and co-location of data center facilities, the electricity, utility and maintenance costs in data centers…” If you reallocate IREN’s quarterly D&A (~$75.2 M), infra overhead into cost of revenue, $NBIS outperforms with a more fully loaded margin."
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指出比较IREN与NBIS毛利率需标准化，调整后NBIS表现更优。
你在尝试比较两个结构上截然不同的事物时误解了数据，且未对毛利率进行标准化处理。尽管遭受人身攻击，我仍在回复，因为这会误导他人。考虑到费用确认、折旧与摊销(D&A)及其他 overhead，$IREN 的利润率可能降至 60% 以下。$IREN 拥有数据中心，将大量基础设施成本（服务器、机架、设施）计入资产负债表，随后通过 D&A 计入运营支出(OpEx)，从而虚高了 92% 的毛利率数字。$NBIS 租赁容量，因此同样的成本作为租金、电力和带宽出现在销售成本(COGS)中，完全成本约为 71.2%，但正如你所说，部分基础设施计入了运营支出。$NBIS 的 20-F 文件指出：“收入成本主要包括数据中心设施的运营和托管成本，以及数据中心内的电力、公用事业和维护成本……”如果你将 $IREN 的季度 D&A（约 7520 万美元）和基础设施 overhead 重新分配到收入成本中，$NBIS 在更全面的利润率下表现更优。这是基于你的数据，尽管他们此前有过非公认会计准则(non-GAAP)分部披露。因此，声称 $IREN 93% 的毛利率并与 $NBIS 71% 的毛利率进行比较是没有意义的，因为必须对毛利率进行标准化处理。
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You're misunderstanding the data while trying to compare two structurally different things as gross profit before normalizing it. Reason I'm still replying despite personal attacks now is because this is misleading other people. With expense recognition and with D&A and other overhead, $IREN margins can drop below 60%. For $IREN owning datacenters pushes massive infrastructure costs (servers, racks, facilities) into the balance sheet and later into OpEx (via D&A), inflating that 92% gross margin number. $NBIS leases capacity, so those same costs appear in COGS, as rent, power, and bandwidth to a fuller cst 71.2%., but as you mentioned some infra goes into opex. NBIS’s 20-F: “Cost of revenues primarily consists of costs of operation and co-location of data center facilities, the electricity, utility and maintenance costs in data centers…” If you reallocate IREN’s quarterly D&A (~$75.2 M), infra overhead into cost of revenue, $NBIS outperforms with a more fully loaded margin. This is going off your data, even though they've had nongaap segment disclosures before. So trying to claim $IREN 93% gross margins and then comparing it to $NBIS 71% doesnt make sense, when you have to normalize gross margins.
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看好新云板块，认为NBIS因软件栈具备最佳风险收益比。
我对新云（Neoclouds）持看涨态度，包括 $IREN。查看我的发帖历史，我曾持有包括 $WULF、$CIFR 等在内的各种头寸。我唯一的观点是，$NBIS 因其软件栈（Software Stack）而拥有最高的非对称回报（风险最低，上行空间最大）。 https://t.co/TnUqmvvFdd
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I'm bullish on Neoclouds, including $IREN. If you look at my post history, I've had positions in everything including $WULF, $CIFR, etc. The only point I've made was $NBIS has the highest asymmetrical return (lowest risk, highest upside) because of its software stack. https://t.co/TnUqmvvFdd
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博主怒斥对方混淆财务指标并人身攻击，批评其逻辑荒谬。
我从未见过有人试图将差异巨大的非公认会计准则(Non-GAAP)和公认会计准则(GAAP)利润率混为一谈，然后进行人身攻击作为论据。当我表示不知道如何回应你的另一条评论时，是因为我从未见过如此愚蠢的回应，让我真的无言以对。我很乐意回应其他定量论点，但当你说“我的年初至今(YTD)表现比你好，所以离开这个平台”，然后开始谈论社会主义政权时，连$IREN的持有者都不知道该说什么。
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I’ve never seen someone try and conflate non-GAAP and GAAP margins when they’re so vastly different, then go into personal attacks as an argument. When I said I didn’t know how to respond to your other comment, it’s because I haven’t seen a response so dumb I’m genuinely at a loss. I’m happy to respond to other quantitative arguments but when you try and say “my YTD is better than yours so quit this platform” then go talking about socialist regimes, even $IREN holders wouldn’t know what to say
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指出IREN财报中GAAP与非GAAP利润率的混淆，但肯定其基建优势。
@moninvestor @Agrippa_Inv 提醒一下，包括发帖人在内的许多人，在查看 $IREN 时经常混淆公认会计准则(GAAP)与非公认会计准则(non-GAAP)。这在计算利润率时会产生巨大差异。 但从根本上说，关于产能/基础设施优势的一些观点仍然成立。 https://t.co/ZxIh6kBs7Y
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@moninvestor @Agrippa_Inv Just a heads up, a lot people, including the poster, confuse GAAP vs nonGAAP when looking at $IREN. It makes a huge difference when accounting for margins. But fundamentally, some points points still hold around capacity/infrastructure advantages. https://t.co/ZxIh6kBs7Y
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澄清对IREN散户的误解，肯定其关于电力基础设施的观点。
@Agrippa_Inv 我也不是在嘲笑 $IREN 散户在讨论利润率时混淆公认会计准则(GAAP)与非公认会计准则(non-GAAP)，并为此专门发帖。如果你不做季度财务报告，这确实很难，但其中关于基础设施/电力的观点是有效的。
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@Agrippa_Inv Also not trying to make fun of $IREN retail for confusing GAAP vs non-GAAP when talking about margins then making a whole post surroudning that. It's genuinely difficult if you don't do quarterly financial reports, but there's valid points on there about infrastructure/power.
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反驳IREN论点，指出NBIS全栈软件优势带来长期更高利润率。
观点很棒！但是…… 你的论点基于对公认会计准则(GAAP)与非公认会计准则(non-GAAP)的误解……这可能会让非会计专业人士和 X 上的其他人感到困惑。 在对比硬件部门利润与全栈 AWS 利润率时，$IREN 报告的是非公认会计准则(non-GAAP)，而 $NBIS 报告的是公认会计准则(GAAP)。 92% 是一个非公认会计准则(non-GAAP)的硬件特定利润指标，它系统地排除了折旧、数据中心 overhead、网络费用、支持等。硬件利润率通常仅通过从收入中扣除直接电力成本来计算，忽略了真实公认会计准则(GAAP) 销售成本(COGS) 的组成部分。在报告时，销售成本(COGS) 的遗漏和会计原则很重要（例如，为什么加密公司如 $MSTR 的数字与像 ASU 2023-08 这样的加密报告如此不同，因此你不能将收入与加密持仓与 Robinhood 进行比较）。 与此同时，$NBIS 71.2% 的毛利率是公认会计准则(GAAP)，并将托管费用(colocation fees) 作为 29% 收入成本的一部分。因此，当你查看 EBIT 利润率以获得全貌时，$NBIS (~30%) 要高得多，因为全栈驱动了盈利能力。当 $IREN 扩展到 5 亿美元 ARR 目标时，他们被迫纳入现实的折旧、数据中心成本、网络费用和运营。如果以一致的会计标准对两者进行标准化，$NBIS 的全栈模型在真实利润率 spread 上已经高出 15-25 个百分点。 你说超大规模客户自带 Type-1 堆栈是对的。但是……我再次对其他 $IREN 帖子说过这一点，它们一直在回避这个点。 再说一次，Nebius 的 Type-2 层不是面向客户的功能，而是优化内部运营支出(OPEX)。如果企业自带 Type 1 (K8s/Ray)，Nebius 的内部编排(Type 2) 仍然能提升其自身的利润率。这是运营支出(OPEX) 护城河，它不是客户使用的，而是关于你运行集群的效率。把它想象成 AWS 的 Nitro 虚拟机监控程序，但核心在于 AWS 如何驱动 >80% 的利用率和最小的人工运营。Nebius 的内部控制平面自动化了混合 SKU 的 GPU 调度、遥测和固件生命周期。每增加一个百分点的利用率，毛利率就扩张约 1-1.5 个百分点。Nebius 的内部编排降低了其运营成本基础并提高了利用率，无论客户是否自带堆栈，所以这不是非此即彼的关系。 长期的利用率效率和自动化复利增长快于廉价电力/容量，$NBIS 的全栈在长期驱动更高的利润率，而其他方面临利润率压缩的恶性竞争。随着 $NBIS 扩展，其软件熟练度的增量成本趋近于零，结构性地推动利润率更高。相反，$IREN 的依赖模式意味着随着扩展，许可费（如果你采用你的数字，为收入的 3-8%）加上必要的、未量化的站点可靠性工程师(SRE) 运营成本将成为盈利能力的永久拖累，阻止公司实现 $NBIS 的结构性利润率上限。外包 Type 2 解决方案的许可成本很低，如你的 3-8% 数字，但当被视为 overhead 时，“20-30%” 的数字非常相关。 回到 GAAP-non-GAAP，一旦 $IREN 在规模上被迫确认完整的公认会计准则(GAAP) 成本，与 $NBIS 相比不可避免的 15-30 个百分点的利润率差异将会显现。我同意你，短期的容量和基础设施是今天的一大优势，这就是为什么我仍然看好转型的加密货币矿工如 $IREN、$WULF、$CIFR，但在执行期间的软件护城河，在将收入转化为利润的长期来看，将大大优于裸金属基础设施（这还假设 $NBIS 无法扩展基础设施，而他们是可以的）。 $IREN 当前的优势是物理集成和廉价容量，它是资本支出(capex) 密集型的，并受制于电力市场收紧。$NBIS 的优势是运营支出(OPEX) 杠杆。$NBIS 更高的利润率是几年后基于全栈 AWS 式利润率的必然经济结果，而当其他人竞相触底时，利润率差异不会崩溃，而是随着规模扩大而扩大。 廉价电力赢得下一个季度，高效的编排成为下一个 AWS。
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Great points! But... You did base your thesis off misunderstanding gaap vs. non-gaap... which could be confusing to non-accountants and other people on X. $IREN reported non-GAAP and $NBIS GAAP when you look at hardware-segment profit to full-stack AWS margins. The 92% percent was non-GAAP, hardware-specific profit metric that systematically excludes depreciation, data-center overhead, network expenses, support, etc. Hardware Profit Margin is typically calculated solely by deducting direct electricity costs from revenue, ignoring the components of true COGS GAAP. And when you do reporting, COGS omissions and accounting principles matter (eg. why crypto firms have like $MSTR wildly different numbers from crypto reporting like ASU 2023-08, so you don’t compare revenue with crypto holdings to Robinhood). Meanwhile $NBIS 71.2% gross margins was GAAP and includes colocation fees as part of 29% cost of revenue. So when you look into EBIT margins for the full picture, $NBIS (~30%) is vastly higher because full stack drives profitability. When $IREN scales to the $500M ARR target, they’re forced to incorporate realistic deprecation, data center costs, network expenses, and operations. If you normalize both under consistent accounting, $NBIS’s full-stack model already operates 15–25 points higher in true margin spread. You’re right that hyperscale clients bring their own Type-1 stack. BUT... I’ve said this again to other $IREN posts that keep side-stepping this point. Once again, Nebius’s Type-2 layer isn't for customer-facing features, it’s optimizing internal OPEX. If enterprises bring their own Type 1 (K8s/Ray), Nebius's internal orchestration (Type 2) still drives its own margins up. That's OPEX moat, it's not what customers use, it's about how efficiently you run the fleet. Think of it like AWS’s Nitro hypervisor but central to how AWS drives >80% utilization and minimal human ops. Nebius’s in-house control plane automates GPU scheduling, telemetry, and firmware lifecycles across mixed SKUs. Every percentage point of utilization is ~1-1.5 points of gross margin expansion. Nebius's in-house orchestration lowers their operating cost base and increases utilization, regardless of whether customers bring their own stack, so it’s not quite one or the other. Long-term utilization efficiency and automation compound faster than cheap power/capacity and $NBIS full stack drives higher margins long term, while others face margin compression on a race to the ground. As $NBIS scales, the incremental cost of their software proficiency approaches zero, structurally driving margins higher. Conversely, $IREN's dependency model means that as they scale, the licensing fees (3–8% of revenue if you we go with your figure) plus the necessary, unquantified SRE operational costs will remain a permanent drag on profitability, preventing the firm from achieving $NBIS's structural margin ceiling longer on. Licensing costs for outsourced Type 2 solutions are low like your 3-8% figure, but the "20–30%" figure is highly relevant when viewed as overhead. .Going back to GAAP-non-gaap, once $IREN is forced to recognize full GAAP costs at scale, the inevitable 15–30 point margin delta against $NBIS will materialize. I’d agree with you that short-term capacity and infrastructure is a great advantage today, which is why I’m still bullish crypto miners pivoting like $IREN, $WULF, $CIFR, but the software moat during execution, would vastly outperform bare mental infrastructure in the longer term when it comes to converting revenue to profit (and this is pretending $NBIS can’t scale up infra, which they can). $IREN current advantage is physical integration and cheap capacity, it’s capex-heavy, and subject to power-market tightening. $NBIS advantage is OPEX leverage. $NBIS higher margins is an economic inevitability in a years time when rooted in full stack AWS-like margins, while margin delta isn't collapsing as others race to the bottom, it's widening as scale hits. Cheap power wins next quarter, efficient orchestration becomes the next AWS.
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Nebius结构模型优于IREN，利润率更具可持续性
@FransBakker9812 此外，考虑到这可能是一次性季度表现，我在利润率估算上更为保守。即使经过正常化调整，Nebius 的结构化模型（全栈+编排+摊销）仍指向比使用中间件的矿企如 $IREN 更可持续的高利润率。
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@FransBakker9812 Also I’ve been more conservative with margin estimates in case it’s a one-off quarter. Even adjusting for normalization, Nebius’s structural model (full-stack + orchestration + amortization) still points to sustainably higher margins than miners like IREN using middleware
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反驳NBIS利润率误解，指出软件优势才是高毛利关键。
那是不对的，$NBIS 的利润率包含了托管费(colocation fees)，且成本已反映在29%的营收成本(cost of revenue)中。 $IREN 也拥有站点，但这并未使其相比 $NBIS 获得显著的利润率优势。你没读到的是，软件（编排、利用率）以及无收入分成（Fluidstack、Poolside）才是推动更高利润率的关键。 声称聪明人不再权衡容量与利润率之间的取舍，是我见过最愚蠢的观点，恭喜。
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That’s not true, $NBIS margins include colo fees and the costs are reflected in the 29% cost of revenue. $IREN owns the sites too, but it doesn’t give much of a margin advantage over $NBIS. Thing you didn’t read was software (orchestration, utilization) and no revenue margin cut (fluidstack, poolside), drives higher margins. Saying intelligent people stopped comparing tradeoffs between capacity and margins is the dumbest take I’ve seen so far, congrats.
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澄清$IREN因依赖中间件导致利润率受限，非真正全栈。
并非如此，即使在云服务商(CSP)模式下，他们仍使用Poolside等中间件（CIFR和WULF使用Fluidstack）。我想你可能误解了我的意思。 $IREN的利润率结构将受到限制，因为中间件会侵蚀来自编排、调度、客户分配等环节的利润。 虽然这比托管型主机(MW Hosting)更好，但它不像Nebius那样是真正的全栈架构，因此利润率会有上限。
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Not really, even under csp, they still use middleware like poolside (CIFR WULF use fluidstack). Think you’re misundestanding what I’m trying to say Margin profile will be limited with $IREN because middleware cuts into margins from orchestration, scheduling, customer allocation, etc. While it’s better than mw hosting, is not a true full stack like nebius and margins will cap out
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对比IREN与NBIS模式，指出矿工自建HPC堆栈难敌全栈合作优势。
$IREN 在加密货币挖矿方面拥有良好的利润率和高吉瓦(GW)容量，但这并不能直接转化为高性能计算(HPC)优势。 与此同时，他们正采取 $CIFR 和 $WULF 的路径，通过中间件编排将业务导向超大规模云服务商，但这会在长期内大幅压缩利润率。 $NBIS 直接与 $MSFT 进行全栈合作，实际上可以随着时间的推移提高其毛利率。 大家都指向 $CRWV 作为小型转型的案例，但最近我们学到的残酷现实是，如果许多矿工试图建立自己的编排和堆栈，他们很可能会失败。 $ORCL 是软件护城河的完美例子：如果一个市值 8000 亿美元的超大规模云服务商都感到困难，那么一个市值 40 亿美元的比特币矿工，或者像 $SLNH 这样市值 1 亿美元的微盘股，又该如何转型呢？ 如果他们选择直接转型，许多人在估算比特币矿工基本面时参考 $CRWV 将吉瓦(GW)转化为收入/利润的方式，但实际回报在执行过程中可能会令人失望。 Nebius 从一开始就是第一名，甚至在 GPU 利用率上超越了 $CRWV（根据其最新的白皮书），其全栈带来的长期盈利能力将在财报中胜过投机。
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$IREN has good margins for crypto mining and large GW capacity but that doesn’t translate directly into HPC. They’re going the $CIFR $WULF route in the meantime with middleware orchestration funneling to hyper scalers but that cuts into margins a lot in the long run. $NBIS is direct to $MSFT full stack and can actually increase their gross margins over time. Everyone points to $CRWV as the example to minor pivots but the harsh reality as we learned recently is that if many miners try building their own orchestration and stack, they will likely fail. $ORCL is the perfect example of the software moat where if a $800B hyperscaler has trouble how would a $4B bitcoin miner pivot, or a $100m microcap like $SLNH do it. If they go direct, a lot of people estimating bitcoin miner fundamentals use $CRWV in terms of translating GW to revenue/profit, but the actual returns will likely be underwhelming during the execution. Nebius is #1 from the very start, even beating out $CRWV (from their most recent whitepaper with gpu utilization) and long term profitability from full stack will shine when it comes to earnings vs speculation.
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看好Neoclouds板块，认为利润率比容量更重要，首选NBIS。
谢谢，只是想补充一下，我对从 $IREN 到 $CIFR 的整个 Neoclouds 板块依然看好。短期内，由于围绕算力容量(capacity)的叙事，可能会有更高的上行空间，但我预计在执行和财报季到来时，市场会更关注利润率(margins)。就纯粹的不对称上行潜力而言，$NBIS 是显而易见的赢家，因为其运营侧拥有毛利率护城河（如果不是因为利息债务，$CRWV 也会名列前茅）。我在帖子中添加了一些定量数据，展示为何利润率 > 容量和/或中间件(middleware)。
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Thanks, just wanted to add I'm still bullish on Neoclouds across the board from $IREN to $CIFR. Short term there might be higher upside due to narratives around capacity but I'd expect markets to care about margins more when it comes time to execution + earning reports. In terms of raw asymmetrical upside, $NBIS is the obvious winner due to gross margin moat on their operational side ( $CRWV would have been up there if it weren't for interest debt). And I added some quantitative data in the post showing why margins > capacity and/or middleware.
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作者认为NBIS全栈软件优势带来高毛利，优于IREN等矿企，故重仓NBIS。
为了解决关于新云（Neocloud）的争论： $NBIS > $IREN 及其他。 基于 $ORCL 的报告、NBIS 白皮书、$CRWV 的收购案以及其他因素， 我决定将数百万资金整合进 Nebius，并清仓像 $CIFR 这样的矿企。 📏 毛利率 > 吉瓦（GW）产能 以下是数学逻辑及原因： 此前，由远期收入支撑的新云板块（例如 $NBIS 与 $MSFT 的 190 亿美元交易）经历了巨大的投机性上涨。 然而，由于原始 GW 产能（如 $IREN）和廉价能源，加密货币矿企近期上涨了 500%+。 然而，人们忽略的是，产能虽能带来更高的收入，但如果不可盈利（例如 $ORCL 14% 的毛利率），这些收入毫无意义。 随着更多关于 $ORCL 建设失败、$NBIS 白皮书等的信息公布，我们得知如果经济模型无法转化，电力和产能意义不大。 而 $NBIS 拥有一切优势。 1. 毛利率差距：全栈 vs 中间件 像 $IREN 和 $CIFR 这样的矿企必须依赖编排合作伙伴（Fluidstack、Poolside 等）来变现其 GPU。这意味着要放弃 20-30% 的收入（~来自深度研究的私人估算），并承担 GPU 折旧、电力和运维成本。结果是？ 在 $3-4/小时 的 GPU 定价和 ~80% 利用率下，IREN/CIFR 的毛利率 = ~44-52% 在 $5-6/小时 和 90% 利用率下，毛利率可能达到 ~55-60%，但这已是天花板。 与此同时，Nebius 通过拥有编排层并分摊 4 年成本，目前获得 70-75% 的毛利率（上一季度为 71.2%，可能为 60-70%，近期白皮书声称更高的 GPU 利用率可能使其更高）。 随着规模和利用率的提高，这一差距会复利扩大。 矿企每赚一美元都要分出一部分，而 Nebius 的毛利率随时间增加。 2. 软件是护城河，Oracle 证明了这一点 即使 $ORCL 这样市值 8000 亿美元的超大规模云服务商，也无法盈利地构建 GPU 编排，其 AI 租赁平台报告约 14% 的毛利率，并在此过程中亏损约 1 亿美元。 如果 Oracle 都无法执行，指望市值 1 亿美元的小型矿企如 $SLNH 从头构建超大规模云级别的编排系统只是痴人说梦。 像 Fluidstack 这样的平台是必要的桥梁，但代价高昂：毛利率压缩、收入流失和平台依赖。 Nebius？它已经完成了最难的部分。其内部编排软件、GPU 利用率，没有中间商赚差价。 3. 电力 vs 毛利率计算 单张 H100 功耗约 0.7-0.84 kW。即使在 $0.10/kWh 的电价下，每张 GPU 每小时的电费仅为 $0.07-0.08。当 GPU 以 $4-6/小时 出租时，这仅占收入的 1-2%。 真正影响大局的是什么？利用率： 50% -> 85% 的正常运行时间 = 每张 GPU 收入增加 70% 这是数百个基点的毛利率波动，远超与矿企相比的“廉价电力”优势。 软件利用率/编排是护城河，其重要性比廉价电力高 30-70 倍。而且 $NBIS 也不缺廉价电力 lol。 4. 矿企中的 CRWV 例外 大家都指向 $CRWV 作为矿企转型的案例，但 Coreweave 实际上花了数年时间，并进行了数十亿美元的软件收购。 即使现在，报道显示其利用率仍落后于 Nebius。如果矿企认为他们能复制 CRWV，祝他们好运。 我预计 $NBIS 在明年的财报中，当执行与投机面临检验时，将大幅跑赢。 🧩 非对称性 Nebius 毛利率：70-75%（全栈，4 年折旧） IREN/CIFR 现实毛利率：40-60%（中间件，2-3 年折旧） 毛利率差额：15-30 个百分点 执行风险：Nebius = 0（已在执行）；IREN/CIFR = 高 Nebius 不是电力博弈。它是软件毛利率博弈，带有硬件上行空间。对于 $IREN 等，你是在猜测它能否像 $CRWV 那样成功。 人们不断说“软件不是护城河，看看 $CRWV 对 $IREN 未来 HPC 毛利率的影响”，但如果 $ORCL 这样最大的超大规模云服务商之一都卡在 14% 的毛利率。那么我们怎么指望这些小加密货币矿企能搞定 Coreweave。 就非对称性更新而言，$NBIS 是明确的赢家。就原始潜在上行空间而言，如果 $IREN 能像变魔术一样搞定 $CRWV 并在此方面击败 $ORCL，那我确实会认输。 软件全栈是一个巨大的护城河，人们严重低估了它。对于 $NBIS，他们可以只是即插即用，随着时间推移扩大规模，拥有行业内最高的毛利率。 $NBIS 就是真正的非对称回报的样子。
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To settle the Neocloud debate: $NBIS > $IREN + others. Based on the $ORCL report, NBIS whitepaper, $CRWV acquisitions, and other factors, I decided to consolidate millions into Nebius and sell off miners like $CIFR. 📏 Gross Margins > GW capacity Here's the math + why: We've had a huge speculative run across the board on Neoclouds backed by forward revenue (eg. 19B $MSFT deal with $NBIS). However, crypto miners have recently gone up 500%+ due to raw GW capacity like $IREN and cheap energy. However, what people miss out on is capacity leads to much higher revenue but that revenue means nothing if it's not profitable (eg. $ORCL 14% gross margins). Now that more information has come out regarding $ORCL's buildout failure, $NBIS's whitepaper, and others, we know power and capacity mean little if the economics don’t translate. And $NBIS has everything. 1. The Margin Gap: Full Stack vs. Middleware Miners like $IREN and $CIFR must rely on orchestration partners (Fluidstack, Poolside, etc.) to monetize their GPUs. That means giving up 20–30% of revenue (~private estimates from deep research), plus absorbing GPU depreciation, power, and O&M. The result? At $3–4/hr GPU pricing and ~80% utilization, IREN/CIFR margin = ~44–52% At $5–6/hr and 90% utilization, margin could reach ~55–60%, but that’s the ceiling Meanwhile, Nebius earns 70–75% today by owning the orchestration layer and amortizing over 4 years (71.2% from previous Q, likely 60-70%, possibly higher from recent whitepaper claiming higher GPU utilizations). This gap compounds as scale and utilization rise. Miners give away a piece of every dollar they earn while Nebius INCREASES gross margins over time. 2. Software Is the Moat and Oracle Proved It Even $ORCL, an $800B hyperscaler, failed at building GPU orchestration profitably, reporting ~14% gross margins on their AI rental platform and losing ~$100M in the process. If Oracle can’t execute, expecting $100M marketcap small miners like $SLNH to build hyperscaler-grade orchestration from scratch is wishful thinking. Platforms like Fluidstack are essential bridges, but they come at a cost: margin compression, revenue leakage, and platform dependency. Nebius? It already did the hard part. Its in-house orchestration software, GPU utilization, with no middlemen taking a cut. 3. Power vs. Margin Calculations A single H100 uses ~0.7–0.84 kW. Even at $0.10/kWh, power is just $0.07–0.08 per GPU-hour. When GPUs rent at $4–6/hr, that’s 1–2% of revenue. What actually moves the needle? Utilization: 50% -> 85% uptime = +70% revenue per GPU That’s a multi-hundred bps margin swing, far outweighing any "cheap power" comparison with miners. Software utilization/orchestration is a moat and matters ~30–70 TIMES more than cheap power. And it's not like $NBIS doesn't have cheap power either lol. 4. The CRWV Exception to Miners Everyone points to $CRWV as miners pivot but Coreweave literally spent YEARS to do this, along with billions in software acquisitions. And even now, reports suggest their utilization trails Nebius. If miners think they’ll replicate CRWV, good luck. I'd expect in NBIS to strong outperform in next year's earnings reports when it comes time for execution vs. speculation. 🧩 The Asymmetry Nebius GM: 70–75% (full-stack, 4yr depreciation) IREN/CIFR realistic GM: 40–60% (middleware, 2–3yr depreciation) Gross margin delta: 15–30 points Execution risk: Nebius = 0 (already doing it); IREN/CIFR = high Nebius isn’t a power play. It’s a software margins play, with hardware upside. With $IREN and others, you're guessing if it can pull off a $CRWV. People keep saying "software it not a moat, and look at $CRWV for $IREN future HPC margins", but if $ORCL one of the largest hyperscalers is stuck at 14% gross margins. Then how do we expect these small crypto miners to pull off a Coreweave. In terms of ASYMMETRICAL UPDATE, $NBIS is the clear favorite out of anything. In terms of raw potential upside if $IREN manages to pull a $CRWV out a hat and beats out $ORCL in this, sure I'd concede. Software full stack is a HUGE moat that people vastly, vastly underestimate. With $NBIS, they can just let it plug and play scale up over time with the highest gross margins in industry. $NBIS is what true asymmetric return looks like.
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对比NBIS与IREN，认为前者如传奇纲手，后者如小樱般最终显得无用。
@soulbiri1 $NBIS 就像传说中的纲手(DD Tsunade)四处行走并最终成为火影。$IREN 则像某些主角如小樱(Sakura)，起初人们羡慕其力量，但随着时间推移，在与拥有全套配置的人相比时，人们终将意识到这种力量是无用的。
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@soulbiri1 $NBIS is like DD Tsunade walking around becoming hokage like a legend. $IREN is some main character like Sakura with power that people admire at first but will come to realize is useless as time goes on when you compare it to someone with the full package.
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对比NBIS与转型矿企，强调软件全栈与护城河决定高毛利优势。
我在其他评论中提到 $CRWV，将其作为加密货币矿工转向高性能计算(HPC)所追求的金标准范例。 即便如此，在 $CRWV 花费数十亿美元收购软件并耗时多年构建之后，$NBIS 的 GPU 利用率依然更高。 人们对 $IREN 和其他转型中的加密货币矿工抱有过于乐观的看法，而 $ORCL 的毛利率实际上仅为 14%。$CRWV 花费数十亿美元和数年时间构建软件，人们却期望像 $SLNH 这样市值仅 1.4 亿美元的小盘股能有效转型并实现良好的毛利率。 产能带来更高的潜在收入，但如果毛利率微薄则意义不大。全栈+软件编排+客户多元化才是护城河，也是 $NBIS 在毛利率方面可能胜出的原因。 （另外我不看好 $CRWV，因为其坏账侵蚀了利润。$NBIS 的 40%+ 价外可转换票据结构才是正确路径）
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I mention $CRWV in the other comments as the gold standard example crypto miners pivoting to HPC aim for. Even then $NBIS has higher GPU utilization after CRWV spends billions on software acquisition and years to build it out. People have too much rose-tinted lens on $IREN and other crypto miners pivoting when $ORCL literally had 14% gross margins. Again CRWV spend billions and years on their software buildout and people expect some $140m micro cap like $SLNH to effectively pivot into good margins Capacity leads to higher potential revenue but it doesn’t mean much if their margins are small. Full stack + software orchestration + customer diversity is the moat and why $NBIS will likely come out on top in terms of margins. (Also didn’t like $CRWV since their bad debt eats into margins too. $NBIS convertible note structure 40%+ OTM is the way to go)
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认为NBIS软件护城河深，非对称收益优于IREN等转型矿工。
我不同意，软件编排（Software Orchestration）可能是最大的护城河之一，这就是为什么在我看来，$NBIS 的非对称上行潜力明显优于 $IREN。但各有所好！ 我同意 $IREN 因部署的吉瓦（GW）规模略大，潜在上行空间稍高，但在利润率方面的执行风险要大得多。 关于 $IREN 未来的财报，我认为市场将痛苦地发现，Nebius 目前的编排能力和客户多样性构成了巨大的护城河。 $ORCL 作为最大的算力公司之一，据 TI 报道，其最近的建设亏损超过 1 亿美元。这主要归因于软件、GPU 编排和客户基础。内部文件显示其毛利率约为 14%（而 $NBIS 上季度为 71.2%）。 如果最大的超大规模云服务商都做不好，而人们仍指向 $CRWV 支持比特币矿工转型（尽管他们花费数十亿用于软件收购且转型耗时数年），那么你可能低估了这个巨大的护城河。 此外，软件利用率/编排的重要性比廉价电力高约 30-70 倍（我在另一条评论中算过账）。 部署的兆瓦/吉瓦规模确实给矿工带来更高的上行空间，但当 $NBIS 拥有最高非对称回报和产能时，去猜测这些比特币矿工能否转向高利润率是没有意义的，这是我的观点。
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I'd disagree, software orchestration is one of the biggest moats possible, which is why $NBIS > $IREN clear as day for me in terms of asymmetrical upside. But to each their own! I'd agree IREN has slightly higher potential upside due to scale of GW deployed but way way larger execution risk in terms of margins. When it comes to future earning reports with $IREN, I'd expect markets to find out the hard way that the orchestration and customer diversity that Nebius has currently is a massive, massive moat. $ORCL one of the largest compute companies lost $100m+ on their most recent buildout as per TI reporting. This was largely due to software + GPU orchestration + customer base. Internal documents show they had ~14% gross margins (NBIS had 71.2% last quarter). If the largest hyperscalers can't get it right, and people keep pointing to $CRWV supporting Bitcoin miner pivots (when they spent billions on software aqusitions) and years on the pivot, then it's probably is a big moat that you're underestimating. Also Software utilization/orchestration matters ~30–70x more than cheap power (did the math in another comment). Scale of MW/GW deployed leads to higher upside with miners, sure, but there's no point of speculating whether these bitcoin miners can pivot into high margins when we have $NBIS with the highest asymmetrical return and capacity, was my point.
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软件利用率对AI算力利润的影响远超廉价电力成本。
$NBIS 拥有廉价电力，但可能不如 $IREN 或 $CIFR 便宜。但为了让你明白为什么这没那么重要： 软件利用率/编排(Orchestration)是护城河，其重要性比廉价电力高出约 30-70 倍。（请有人核实一下这个数学计算） 一张 H100 功耗约 0.84 千瓦。在 0.05 美元/千瓦时的电价下，成本为 0.04 美元/GPU-小时；即使在 0.10 美元/千瓦时，成本也仅为 0.08 美元/GPU-小时。 鉴于租赁价格约为 4 美元/GPU-小时，电力成本仅占收入的 1-2%。但将利用率从 50% 提升到 85%，会使单 GPU 收入增加 70%，从而大幅改变利润率。 不过，如果你拥有像 $CRWV 那样的所有组件（除了他们的坏账问题），那就是另一回事了，但这巨大的投机性赌注在于所有矿工能否建成这些设施。
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$NBIS has access to cheap power, but it might not be as cheap as $IREN or $CIFR. But just to give you a sense of why it matters a lot less: Software utilization/orchestration is a moat and matters ~30–70 TIMES more than cheap power. (someone pls fact check the math) A H100 burns ~0.84 kW. At $0.05 / kWh, that’s $0.04 / GPU-hour; even at $0.10 / kWh it’s $0.08 / GPU-hour. With rental prices of ~$4 / GPU-hour, power is just 1–2 % of revenue. But going from 50% to 85% utilization changes revenue per GPU by +70%, swinging margins massively. Then again if you have all the components like $CRWV (aside from their bad debt), then that's a different story, but it's a huge speculative gamble that all the miners can build that out.
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看好NBIS下跌后的世代性机会，认为其将跑赢IREN。
@YNWA_AB 是的，我通常很少发单一个股的内容，但我觉得 $NBIS 现在是一个世代性的机会，尤其是在下跌30%之后。我看到 $IREN 和其他公司的上涨潜力，但认为 Nebius 将大幅跑赢。
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@YNWA_AB Yeah I normally don't do much single-stock posts, but just feel like $NBIS is a generational opportunity right now, especially on the 30% drop. I see the upside for $IREN and others, but feel like Nebius will strong outperform.
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清仓其他Neocloud重仓$NBIS，认为其全栈优势及无债结构使其优于同行。
Neocloud持仓更新，10月24日周五。 发这条推文是为了向$IREN和其他Neocloud（新云）持有者传达一个信息： 👑 $NBIS更胜一筹。 我已清仓其他Neocloud股票：$CIFR获利250%+，$IREN、$BITF、$WYFI获利50-100%+，$WULF亏损5-10%。 目前我在$NBIS股票/LEAPS（长期期权）上的敞口超过200万美元，并持有少量$WLAC仓位。如果$NBIS股价维持在115美元，下周我会继续加仓Nebius。 我通常不发布卖出操作，但最近有很多烦人的Neocloud帖子声称他们的才是最好的。所以我发这条是为了传达$NBIS在不对称上行潜力方面明显更优，且已锁定Mag7（科技七巨头）订单。因此，分散投资其他Neocloud毫无意义。 NBIS通过全栈/GPU利用率及多元化用户，可能拥有最高的利润率护城河。其子公司+投资组合公司（AI数据库、机器人/配送等）正随其运营业务同步扩张。此外，没有侵蚀利润率的不良利息债务。 只需等待一年获得另一个超大规模云厂商合同，就有轻松获得300%收益和1000亿美元+市值的明确路径。去推测比特币挖矿转型的毛利率毫无意义（看看$ORCL仅因GPU利用率+建设->收入滞后就损失1亿美元+），即使某些公司可能有更大的容量。 所以只想说：Nebius是THE Neocloud。🫳🎙️
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Neocloud Position Update Friday Oct 24. This post is to send a message to $IREN and other Neoclouds holders that: 👑 $NBIS is superior. I sold out of other Neoclouds: $CIFR 250%+ gain, $IREN, $BITF, $WYFI, 50-100%+ gain, $WULF 5-10% loss. Now with $2M+ exposure in $NBIS shares/leaps + small $WLAC positions. Will add more Nebius positions next week if it stays at $115. I don't normally post sales, but there's a lot of annoying Neocloud posts recently claiming that theirs is the best. So I'm posting this to send a message that $NBIS is clearly superior in terms of asymmetrical upside and already has Mag7 deals locked in. And because of this, there's no point of diversifying into other Neoclouds. NBIS will likely have the highest margin moat from how they do full stack/GPU utilization with their diversified users. And their subsidiaries + portfolio companies (AI DBs, robotics/delivery, etc). are scaling alongside their operational business. There's also no exposure to bad interest debt that eats into margins. There's an easy path to 300% gain and a $100B+ marketcap just by waiting 1 year for another hyperscaler contract and there's no point in speculating gross margins from Bitcoin mining pivots (see how $ORCL lost $100M+ just bc of GPU utilization + buildout -> rev lag) even if some might have larger capacity. So just wanted to say: Nebius is THE Neocloud. 🫳🎙️
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机构借恐慌在暗池增持 $NBIS，基本面支撑其 390 亿估值。
本周散户恐慌导致 $NBIS 暴跌至 94 美元。 不幸的是，许多散户不在本社区内，仅因股价下跌（混合做市商机械对冲）便在恐惧中抛售。 过去两天，Nebius 股价反弹超 17%。 这就是为什么信念 + 基本面/知识 > 股价。 下跌期间，机构通过暗池(dark pools)等渠道悄悄入场增持。 _ 基本面上，Nebius 被严重低估。我对 $NBIS 的基础估值约为 390 亿美元，若再获一家超大规模云厂商合作，一年内有望达 1000 亿美元。 Nebius 为微软 Azure 等未来超大规模基础设施提供算力。机构深知这一点，并将不惜一切代价增持这家全球算力核心公司的股份。 如果散户不能从基本面建立信念，也不理解机构如何利用暗池、期权流向等在不扰动价格的情况下积累筹码，他们就会纯粹因恐惧而非实质性变化而投降。 正如我在今日 Seeking Alpha 文章《Nebius 回调，聪明钱的入场点》中指出： “WhaleStream 报告显示约 1 亿美元净流入集中在 103.90 美元附近，显示新的机构兴趣。 Fintel 数据（源自 Nasdaq、FINRA 和 Capital IQ）证实，场外做空比率接近 19%，强化了机构通过暗池大量买入 Nebius 的观点。 实际上，这支持了大部分 Nebius 买入是通过暗池悄悄进行的观点，这与观察到的看涨期权积累相一致。” 积累是战略性的，但隐藏在明处。不要被震仓出局。
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This week retail panic sent $NBIS tumbling to $94. Unfortunately, many retail are outside this community and sold shares in fear (mixed with MM mechanical hedging) based on stock price dropping alone. In the past two days, Nebius is back up over 17%. This is why why Conviction + Fundamentals/Knowledge > stock price. During the drop, institutions quietly stepped in and acquired more from darkpools + other methods. _ Fundamentally, Nebius was very undervalued. My base-case valuation of $NBIS sits near $39B today, with room to reach $100B within a year with another hyperscaler partnership. Nebius powers parts of Microsoft Azure and other future hyperscale infrastructure. Institutions know this, and they'll do whatever it takes to grow their ownership in a company at the core of global compute. If retail doesn't develop conviction in the stock from fundamentals and understand how institutions play the game, using dark pools, options flow, and to accumulate shares without moving prices, they'll capitulate purely off of fear instead of material changes. As noted in today’s Seeking Alpha piece "Nebius Pullback, The Smart Money Entry Point": "WhaleStream reports that approximately $100 million of net inflows were concentrated within the $103.90 area, indicating fresh institutional interest. This was confirmed by Fintel data (extracted from Nasdaq, FINRA, and Capital IQ), which records the off-exchange short-volume ratio near 19% and reinforces the thesis of significant Nebius buying through dark pools by the institutions. In practice, this supports the view that much of the Nebius buying is happening quietly through dark pools, as aligned with the observed build-up of call options." Accumulation is strategic but hidden in plain sight. Don't be shaken off.
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Nebius凭借全栈软件及运营效率，在利润率上优于纯容量型AI云厂商。
就纯上行潜力而言，$IREN 仅因纯粹的吉瓦(GW)容量而颇具前景。然而，$NBIS 在所有新云(Neocloud)中拥有最高的非对称回报(asymmetrical return)。 随着最近发布的 Nebius 白皮书，他们公布了一些关于 GPU 利用率等数据。其全栈软件(full stack software)加上涵盖初创企业和中小企业(SMBs)的多元化客户群，有助于优化其运营支出(opex)，这是人们对其如何最大化 GPU 利润率的误解性护城河(misunderstood moat)。 人们试图将矿工(miners)框架化为潜在的转型者，但如果我们看看 $ORCL 的建设情况，他们在利润率转化上挣扎（建设后的 GPU 利用率等）。拥有其他软件层会压缩利润率，$CRWV 对此深有体会，这也是他们近期花费数十亿美元进行收购的原因。 因此，原始容量并不总能转化为良好的利润率。全栈能力+运营效率+多元化中小企业客户，使 Nebius 具有明显优势。
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So in terms of raw upside, $IREN is promising just because of pure GW capacity. However, $NBIS has the highest asymmetrical return out of any Neocloud. With the recent Nebius whitepaper, they published a bit about GPU utilization, etc. Their full stack software + diversified customer base with startups, SMBs, helps their own opex, which is a misunderstood moat in terms of how they maximize margins from GPUs. People try to frame miners as potential pivots but if we look at $ORCL builtout, they were struggling with margins that didn’t translate (gpu utilization after buildout, etc). Having other software layers like compresses margins and $CRWV found that out firsthand, which is why they spent billions on acquisitions recently. So having raw capacity doesn’t always translate to good profit margins. So being full stack + operational efficiency + diversified smbs gives Nebius a clear edge.
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作者通过分部估值法论证 $NBIS 当前被低估，预计一年内市值可达 1000 亿美元。
为什么我认为 $NBIS 在一年内可以轻松达到约 400 美元/股或 1000 亿美元+市值： 目前，Nebius 的估值为 240 亿美元（增至 1000 亿美元需增长 316%+）。 假设 2026-2027 年零增长： 核心业务：310 亿–365 亿美元 分部估值求和(Sum of Parts)：71 亿美元（打 6 折） 中值估值 = 390 亿美元估值（+62.5%） 这尚未计入任何增长，而增长可能将其推升至 1000 亿美元。 今天，投资者实际上仅为核心业务支付了 130 亿美元，而其正以 1000% 的同比增长率增长——从季度营收 1 亿美元增至 13 亿美元，毛利率为 60-70%。 市场通常是前瞻性的，但对于 Nebius，它只盯着脚下。这些只是非正式的想法和简短分析。 业务估值： __________________ 当前现金等价物（扣除 42 亿美元后）~ 58.8 亿美元 投资组合公司：~ 26.8 亿美元 Clickhouse（28%，估值 63.5 亿美元），Avride（17%，估值 ~31 亿美元），Toloka（51%，估值 ~7.2 亿美元）- Avride/Toloka 为投机性估算。也未考虑 Clickhouse 更新的估值（可能已增长）。 实物资产：~ 20 亿美元中值 GPU（~7.5-10 亿美元），服务器，网络（4-6 亿美元），土地/建筑（3-5 亿美元），电力/冷却（2-3 亿美元）。总实物资产介于 16.5-24 亿美元之间。 保守的分部估值求和：~ 105.8 亿美元（截至今天，未考虑投资组合公司升值）。Nebius 已通过票据转换消除了大部分债务。 通常拥有投资组合的公司不会以 1:1 的净资产值(NAV)交易，因此我在计算时砍掉了 105.8 亿美元的 40%，考虑到这主要是现金，这是保守的。 _ 无增长基准情景 现在进入核心业务： FY 2026-2027 预估：2025 财年预计 11 亿美元 + 来自 $MSFT 的 38 亿美元（合同/5）（显然可能存在收入滞后，因此平均分布在 2026-2027 年）。 如果 Nebius 完全停止基于 2025 年预测的增长，他们在 2026/2027 年的最低年化经常性收入(ARR) 将达到 49.8 亿美元。 毛利率目前约为 71.2%（上一季度），但可能在 60-70% 之间 + 管理层目标 30% 息税折旧摊销前利润(EBITDA)。 以下是核心业务在增长完全停止时的计算： 企业价值/收入(EV/Revenue) 6–8 倍：312 亿 | 416 亿美元 企业价值/息税折旧摊销前利润(EV/EBITDA) 15–25 倍：234 亿 | 390 亿美元 前瞻性的基准/悲观情景企业价值 = 310–420 亿美元（基于收入）或 230–390 亿美元（基于 EBITDA） （核心业务）+ 分部估值求和 = 335.8 亿美元中值无增长情景 + ~105.8 * 0.6 = ~390 亿美元。 接下来我们将考虑如果 Nebius 增长的情况。 __________________ 有增长情景： 以下是仅基于核心业务如何达到 1000 亿美元。 $NBIS 拥有约 50 亿美元已确认 ARR。 Nebius 唯一需要的是 ARR 增长至 80-120 亿美元： 再签 1 个超大规模云厂商(hyperscaler)交易 + SMB 扩张。 只要达成 GCP 或 Meta 交易，我们就能达到该目标。（这只是高层面的，不深入 GPU 折旧争论、电力增加、执行风险等）。我对一年内达成另一个超大规模云厂商交易持乐观态度，因为更多 Mag7 最近签署了交易（例如 Meta 与 $CRWV 的 140 亿美元交易）。 此外，其他一切保持不变：毛利率 ≥60–70% 和 EBITDA 目标：~30%。好消息是，通过白皮书，我们也可能看到 Nebius 的利润率扩张。 NBIS 在昨天的白皮书中声称接近 100% 的 GPU 利用率，这将证明比 $CRWV 或任何矿工转型(+ NBIS 没有有毒利息债务，且客户群更多元化)更高的利润率和每 GPU 收入是合理的。 他们的软件编排本身就是一个护城河，并非所有新云(neoclouds)或比特币矿工转型都能维持同样的高毛利率。 乐意争论为什么全栈、利润率、与 SMB 的客户多元化很重要（如果你想比较 $IREN 的 GW 容量或其他人）-> 只需看看 $ORCL 在建设上损失 1 亿美元+。 无论如何，由于运营支出(opex)成本 + 利润率 + 全栈 + 客户群，我对 $NBIS 的看法优于其他任何新云。（如果有任何遗漏或计算错误，请告诉我，也欢迎辩论） 但除此之外，当前 230 亿美元市值是一场清仓大甩卖，没有计入增长，而它今天本应估值 390 亿美元。然后还有 1 个超大规模云厂商交易带来的上行空间，一年内在 1000 亿美元市值下获得 4 倍回报。
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Why I think $NBIS can easily hit ~$400/share or $100B+ market cap in 1 year: Right now, Nebius trades at a $24B valuation (316%+ increase to $100B). If we pretend that there's 0 growth in 2026-2027: Core Business: $31B–$36.5B Sum of Parts: $7.1B (40% slashed) Midpoint Valuation = $39B valuation (+62.5%) This is before factoring in any growth, which could scale it up to $100B. Today, investors are effectively paying $13B for the core business today, which is on track to grow 1,000% YoY-from $100M in quarterly revenue to $1.3B , with 60-70% gross margins. Markets are usually forward looking, but for Nebius, it only looks at the ground. These are just informal thoughts and a small writeup. Business Valuation: __________________ Current cash equivalents (post $4.2B) ~ $5.88B Portfolio Companies: ~$2.68B Clickhouse (28%, $6.35B valuation), Avride (17%, ~$3.1B valuation), Toloka (51%, ~720M valuation) - speculative estimates on Avride/Toloka. Also did not consider Clickhouse updated valuation, which likely grew). Physical Assets: ~$2B midpoint GPUs (~750m-1B), Servers, networking ($400-600m), Land/buildings ($300m-$500m), power/cooling ($200-$300m). Total phyiscal assets sitting between $1.65B-$2.4B Conservative Sum of parts: ~$10.58B (As of today, not considering portfolio companies going up). Nebius has eliminated most debt from the note conversion. Typically companies with portfolios never trade 1:1 with NAV, so I just slashed 40% off 10.58B or so when doing calculations which is conservative considering it's mostly cash. _ BASE CASE WITH NO GROWTH Now going into the core business: FY 2026-2027 EST: $1.1B projected FY 2025, + $3.8B from $MSFT (contract / 5) (obviously maybe revenue lag, which is why it's on avg 2026-2027 anyway). If Nebius stopped growing completely off their 2025 projections, they would do $4.98B minimum ARR in 2026/2027. Gross margins are sitting at ~71.2% (from last quarter), but likely between 60-70% + management aiming 30% EBITDA. These calculations from the core business are if growth stopped completely: EV/Revenue 6–8×: $31.2B | 41.6B EV/EBITDA 15–25×: $23.4B | $39B Forward-looking EV on the base/bear case = $31–42B (revenue) or $23–39B (EBITDA) (Core Business) + Sum of Parts = $33.58B midpoint no growth case + ~$10.58 * .6 = ~$39B. And now we'll consider that next if Nebius grows. __________________ CASE WITH GROWTH: Now here's how we get to $100B just based on core business. $NBIS has ~$5B ARR confirmed. Only thing Nebius needs is ARR growth to $8–12B: 1 more hyperscaler deal + SMB expansion. All it takes is a GCP or Meta deal and we hit that target. (This is just high-level, not going into GPU depreciation arguments, increasing power, execution risk, etc). And I'm bullish on the chances of another hyperscaler deal happening in 1 year time when more Mag7 signed deals recently (eg Meta $14B with CRWV). Also everything else would need to stay the same gross margin: ≥60–70% and EBITDA target: ~30%. On the bright side, with the whitepaper, we've also likely seen expanding margins with Nebius. NBIS is claiming near-100% realized GPU utilization through their whitepaper yesterday, which would justify higher margins and higher revenue per GPU compared to $CRWV or any miner pivot (+ NBIS has no no-toxic interest debt, and a more diversified client base). Their software orchestration is a moat in and of itself and not all neoclouds or bitcoin miner pivots can sustain the same high-gross margins. Happy to argue why full stack, margins, customer diversification with SMBs are important (if you want to compare $IREN GW capacity, or others) -> just look at $ORCL losing $100m+ on buildout. Regardless, I'm bullish on $NBIS over every other possible Neocloud because of opex costs + margins + fullstack + client base. (Feel free to let me know if I missed anything or calculated wrong, also open to debate) But that aside, current $23B marketcap is a firesale that does not price in growth when it should be valued at $39B today. Then there's the upside on 1 more hyperscaler deal though for 4x return in 1 year at a $100B MC .
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反驳外部优势论，强调全栈软件与运营效率才是NBIS高毛利护城河。
是的，我同意这种拆解。但我觉得你关注错了重点（外部竞争优势）。 他们全栈软件(software full stack)加上涵盖初创企业、中小企业(SMBs)的多元化客户群，有助于优化自身的运营支出(opex)，这本身就是护城河(moat)。 你提到了像 $IREN 这样的矿企(miners)，但如果看看 $ORCL，他们在利润率以及未能转化为实际效益的建设/转型（如建设后的GPU利用率等）方面曾举步维艰。拥有其他软件层也会降低利润率，$CRWV 就亲身经历了这一点，这也是他们近期斥资数十亿美元进行收购的原因。 因此，拥有原始算力(raw capacity)并不总能转化为良好的利润率，就像 $NBIS 已经拥有的那样（如果我没记错的话，上次财报(ER)显示其毛利率为71.2%），这是全栈+运营效率+多元化中小企业客户带来的优势，而那些转型的矿企将不具备这一点。
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Yeah I’d agree with the breakdown. But think you’re focusing on the wrong thing (external competitive advantage). Their full stack software + diversified customer base with startups, SMBs, helps their own opex, which is the moat in and of itself. You mention miners like $IREN but if we look at $ORCL they were struggling with margins and buildout/pivot that didn’t translate (gpu utilization after buildout, etc). Having other software layers also reduces margins and $CRWV found that out firsthand, which is why they spent billions on acquisitions recently. So having raw capacity doesn’t always translate to good profit margins like what $NBIS already has (71.2% gross from last ER, if I remember correctly) being full stack + operational efficiency + diversified smbs that miners that pivot won’t have.
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作者认为NBIS估值偏低，利好AI算力及供应链相关个股。
我礼貌地表示反对，“公允价值”应该更高。新的$NBIS数据中心将提升经常性收入(ARR)，三次降息是巨大的催化剂。刚刚，Anthropic可能与$GOOGL签署200亿美元以上的协议，这对Clickhouse、$WULF、$IREN和Neoclouds都是利好。$META与$CRWV的交易也是如此。Google/七巨头(Mag7)受算力限制，这对Nebius（尽管在此消息下仍下跌5.6%）是更大的催化剂，预计其将有更多超大规模云服务商合同落地。
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I respectfully disagree, "fair value" should be higher. There's been new $NBIS data centers for ARR boost, 3x rate cuts which is a huge catalyst. Just now, Anthropic might sign a $20B+ dollar deal with $GOOGL, which is bullish for Clickhouse, $WULF, $IREN, and Neoclouds. $META x $CRWV deals. Google/Mag7 is compute limited, and this is only a bigger catalyst for Nebius (which is still down 5.6% despite this news), which likely has more hyperscaler contracts on the way.
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Neoclouds凭借软件编排优势解决GPU瓶颈，构建高毛利护城河。
好问题！超大规模云厂商已签署确切的利用率+支出协议，例如 $NBIS 与 $MSFT 的交易，微软将在5年内支出170-200亿美元。这并非完全是在承担高资本支出(capex)的风险，因为他们是在为产能付费以解决瓶颈。他们仍在支出数百亿美元，部分原因是无法自建，部分原因是前期高资本支出存在更大风险。我在核心论点中写道，Neoclouds（新云）+ 有意将GPU分配给这些Neoclouds是 $NVDA 维持主导地位、实现多元化并避免未来利润率压缩的方式。我们也看到超大规模云厂商在自建方面遇到困难（如 $ORCL 亏损1亿美元），但这恰恰表明Neoclouds在软件编排处理GPU利用率以及通过其建设方式维持高毛利率方面拥有巨大护城河。$NBIS、$WLAC 等毛利率已达70%左右，现在只是执行问题。这不仅是芯片稀缺，这些小型公司+转型HPC的比特币矿工（如 $IREN）实际上拥有竞争优势，即护城河。
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Great question! Hyperscalers signed confirmed utilization + spend, for example with $NBIS deal with $MSFT, Microsoft is spending 17-20B over 5 years. It's not exactly risking high-capex, since they're spending to pay for capacity since there's a bottleneck. They're still spending tens of billions of dollars, partly because they can't do it themselves and partly because there's a larger risk in high capex upfront. I wrote in my central thesis that Neoclouds + intentional GPU allocation to these Neoclouds were $NVDA's way of maintaining dominance, diversification, and not risking margin compression down the road. We've also seen hyperscalers have trouble with buildout on their own, (eg. $ORCL losing $100m), but this just goes to show that there is a huge moat with Neoclouds in terms of software orchestration handling GPU utilization and maintaining high gross margins with how they do their buildout. $NBIS, $WLAC, and others already had 70% or so gross margins and it's just execution now. It's not just scarcity in chips, there's actually a competitive advantage that these little guys + Bitcoin miners turned HPC ( $IREN), that is the moat.
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博主发布降息周交易清单，强烈看好TSM及Neocloud板块，建议做多。
10月20日，重要的降息交易周。 个人想法和解释： 🛝 = 波段交易(Swing Trade) 🐈 = 催化剂交易(Catalyst Trade) 🎇 = 2026年交易，已进行税务收割(Tax Harvested) 清仓卖出(Fire Sale) 🔥 $NBIS 强烈买入(Strong Buy) $TSM $AMKR $WLAC $AMZN $LTC 🐈 $RDDT $HIMS 🛝 $IBIT $ALAB $CRDO $SMCI $FLY 🎇 $SNAP 🎇 $ETOR 🎇 $LULU 🎇 买入(Buy) $AMD $HOOD $RBRK $UNH $TGT 🐈 $IREN 🐈 $WYFI $WULF $CIFR $SLNH $BITF $GLXY $FLNC $MU （跳过“持有”，因为我过去提到的其他股票，既然没有变化，大概就继续持有）。 卖出(Sell) $ETH $BMNR $PL $BLSKY $RGTI $OKLO $IONQ $QBTS _ 宏观方面，距离降息（约97%概率）还有9天。市场处于恐惧模式。这是建立多头头寸且不减仓的理想时机。 清仓卖出 _ $NBIS - 无需多言，我仍维持2026年牛市情景下$400的目标价，基于40-60亿美元+的前瞻性收入及约60-75%的毛利率，以及另一份可能的超大规模云厂商合同（如 $META）。 周五下跌10%+是机械式对冲和做市商(MM)钉住价格所致。尽管波动剧烈，价格仍卡在$113.5。预计周一空头对冲将平仓（鉴于做市商买入看跌期权并做空看涨期权 -> 临近到期时大量做空），价格将回升。我在下跌时买入六位数的看涨期权，因为基本面没有实质性变化。 强烈买入 TSM - 天哪，请务必将其纳入投资组合。这是一台印钞机，每年营收增长38-40%的同时毛利率还在提升，简直不可思议。财报大超预期后股价回调，这是我生命中最容易的多头机会之一。 AMKR - 我尚未持有，但计划因TSM在亚利桑那州的参与以及其作为美国供应链大伙伴的潜力而加仓（随着美国推动TSM向美国晶圆厂+制造转移）。 WLAC - Neocloud SPAC IPO，上行空间巨大。我最近常提到这个，它可能是估值最好的Neocloud之一，且已有不错的利润率（并非来自矿工转型，后者不确定性稍大）。他们与Fluidstack合作，我预计若获得Mag7合同，估值将重估500%+。 AMZN - $213太离谱了哈哈。我不明白在牛市中它为何年初至今下跌-3%。 LTC - 受加密货币清算和政府停摆延迟ETF影响。现在是买入并等待ETF获批的好时机。 RDDT - 跌至$190是很好的回调。我以为$200是底部，结果跌得更低。关于ChatGPT较少引用它的新闻引发了大幅抛售，我认为这影响甚微。 HIMS - CEO减持导致下跌14%+。所有者经常卖股，对公司基本面影响不大，仅影响短期情绪。预计会反弹。 IBIT - 比特币$108k是很好的入场点，它已在$110k-$120k之间震荡一段时间，低于此价位通常很好。 ALAB - 上次我说过，因新竞争对手新闻而抛售过度。它已在市场上与AVGO竞争哈哈，拥有类似NVDA的利润率，同比增长数百%，Mag7在数据中心建设中正在使用它。 CRDO - 逻辑与ALAB类似，随Astera抛售但幅度稍小。 SMCI - 应因明年55%+的营收增长而重估。我早先怀疑这些预测，但随着数据中心增长，看起来变得现实了。 FLY - 这是中程有效载荷的博弈。人们怀疑Fly的执行能力，但NOC联合开发中程载荷消除了很多风险（并在与Falcon9竞争时可能重估500%+）。 SNAP - 我在早期的深度研究(DD)帖子中计算过Snap记忆功能的变现能力，目前完全未定价。它季度营收$13亿+，市值仅$130亿哈哈，通过增加营收+降低Google OPEX成本获得的自由现金流(FCF)非常惊人。 ETOR - 大部分为现金，以IBKR的速度增长，受税务收割影响。 LULU - 受税务收割+Alo、Vuori等竞争影响。但季节性应该不错，且现在市盈率极低。 买入 AMD - ChatGPT下AMD订单，ORCL建设AMD数据中心。随着成为$NVDA潜在竞争对手，预计明年将重估。仍认为Nvidia将主导，但鉴于其4.5T市值，即使AMD只占一小部分份额，也有很大追赶空间。 HOOD - 10%+回调后看起来好多了。可能复刻PLTR的走势。 RBRK - 之前做过深度研究，作为网络安全公司，在下跌中看起来更好，该领域倍数极低。只需削减营销，客户粘性高。 UNH - 美国医疗很烂但不会消失。认为Warren等人知道这一点。 TGT 🐈 - 下月分红，大股息股票。我认为现在是大量建仓的好时机。 IREN 🐈 - 巨大的GW，预计获得Mag7或类似交易。 WYFI - 任何Neocloud都是买入（例如见关于Mag7将收入导向这些小型10亿-50亿公司的论点）。 WULF - Neocloud博弈 CIFR - Neocloud博弈 SLNH - Neocloud博弈 BITF - Neocloud博弈 GLXY - Neocloud衍生品博弈 FLNC - Neocloud能源博弈 MU - 中国风险解除，内存在那里有巨大市场，内存也可能在数据中心建设中重估。 _ 卖出 ETH - 不喜欢$4k+的以太坊 BMNR - 如果我不喜欢这些水平的以太坊，持有国库公司也没意义 PL - 低营收，太空股（极高估值） BLSKY - 低营收，太空股（极高估值） RGTI - 量子泡沫 OKLO - 核能泡沫 IONQ - 量子泡沫 QBTS - 量子泡沫 _ 快速宏观提示： -> 9天后降息，概率~97%。预期抢跑，做多。就这些。
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October 20th, Important Rate Cut Trading Week. Personal thoughts and explanations: 🛝 = Swing Trade 🐈 = Catalyst Trade 🎇 = 2026 Trade, Tax Harvested Fire Sale 🔥 $NBIS Strong Buy $TSM $AMKR $WLAC $AMZN $LTC 🐈 $RDDT $HIMS 🛝 $IBIT $ALAB $CRDO $SMCI $FLY 🎇 $SNAP 🎇 $ETOR 🎇 $LULU 🎇 Buy $AMD $HOOD $RBRK $UNH $TGT 🐈 $IREN 🐈 $WYFI $WULF $CIFR $SLNH $BITF $GLXY $FLNC $MU (Skipping Hold, since any other stock I've mentioned in the past, it probably just hold it since nothing's changed). Sell $ETH $BMNR $PL $BLSKY $RGTI $OKLO $IONQ $QBTS _ So macro wise, we are 9 days away from (~97% or so rate cut). Market is in fear mode. This is the ideal time to go long and not cut positions. Fire Sale _ $NBIS - Needs no explanation, I still maintain $400 PT on a bull case 2026 due to 4-6B+ forward revenue off ~60-75% gross margins, and another likely hyperscaler contract (eg. $META) What happened on the 10%+ drop on Friday was mechanical hedging and MM Pinning. You can see this with the price stuck at $113.5, despite any volatility. I'd expect short hedges to unwind Monday (given MMs bought puts and were short calls -> heavy short into expiration) and price to go back up. I ended up buying 6 figures worth of calls on the drop as there was no material changes. Strong Buy TSM - Holy crap, please have this in your portfolio. This is a money printer, and scaling your revenue by 38-40% every year WHILE increasing gross margins is just insane. It dipped as well after smashing earnings so it's one of the easiest longs in my life. AMKR - I don't have this in my portfolio yet but will be looking to add due to TSM's involvement in Arizona and potential to be a big partner in the US supply chain (as America tries to push TSM toward US fab + manufacturing). WLAC - Neocloud SPAC IPO, large upside. I talk about this a lot recently, but it's probably one of the best valued Neoclouds out there, and already has great profit margins (not a pivot from miners, where it's a bit more uncertain). They work with Fluidstack, and I'd expect a 500%+ re-rating on top of a Mag7 contract. AMZN - $213 is insane lol. I have no clue how this is down -3% YTD during a bull market. LTC - Affected by crypto liquidations and government shutdown delaying ETFs. Great time to buy and just wait for ETF to be approved. RDDT - Great dip to $190. I thought $200 would be a bottom but ended up going lower. The news about ChatGPT citing it less caused a large sell-off which I think was very immaterial. HIMS - 14%+ drop off CEO share sale. Owners sell shares all the time, it doesn't really affect the fundamentals of the company much, just short term sentiment. I'd expect it to rebound. IBIT - Bitcoin $108k great entry point, it's been swinging between $110k - $120k for awhile so anything under is usually great. ALAB - I said this last time but it sold off way too much from news of a new competitor. It's already competing vs AVGO in the market lol, NVDA-like margins, growing hundreds of percent Y/Y, Mag7 using them in data center buildout. CRDO - Similar thesis to ALAB, sold off alongside Astera but a bit less. SMCI - Should get re-rated for 55%+ or so revenue growth into next year. I doubted the projections earlier but with the data center growth, it's looking realistic. FLY - This was a medium lift payload play. People doubt fly's execution but NOC co-developing medium lift takes a lot of risk off the table (and possible re-rating it 500%+ when it competes vs falcon9) SNAP - Did the math on Snap monetization of memories in an earlier DD post and it's completely not priced in yet. It's doing $1.3B+ quarterly revenue on a $13B market cap lol, and the amount FCF they would get from increasing their revenue + lowering Google OPEX costs is insane. ETOR - Majority cash, growing at IBKR rates, suffering from tax harvesting LULU - Suffering from tax harvesting + competition from Alo, Vuori, etc. But seasonally should be good, and extremely low p/e now. Buy AMD - ChatGPT putting in AMD orders, ORCL building out AMD data centers. Likely going to get a re-rating in the next year as a potential $NVDA competitor. Still think Nvidia will dominate but with it's 4.5T marketcap, AMD has a lot to catch up on even if it takes a small percent share. HOOD - Looking at a lot better after the 10%+ correction. Could pull a PLTR RBRK - Did DD on this earlier, looks better on the drop as a cybersecurity company really low multiples in the space. Just needs to cut back on marketing, customers sticky. UNH - Healthcare is sht in America but not going anywhere. Think Warren and the others know this TGT 🐈 - Dividend next moth, big dividend stock. Around now is a good time to load up IMO IREN 🐈 - Huge GW, expect mag7 or similar deal. WYFI - Any neocloud is a buy (eg. see thesis on mag7 funneling revenue down toward these small 1B-5B companies) WULF - neocloud play CIFR - neocloud play SLNH - neocloud play BITF - neocloud play GLXY - neocloud derivative play FLNC - neocloud energy play MU - China derisked, memory had a huge market there, memory also likely going to get re-rating in tdata center buildout _ Sell ETH - Not a fan of Ethereum at $4k+ BMNR - If I don't like Ethereum at these levels, no point of holding treasury companies PL - Low revenue, space stock (extremely high valuation) BLSKY -Low revenue, space stock (extremely high valuation) RGTI - Quantum bubble OKLO - Nuclear bubble IONQ -Quantum bubble QBTS - Quantum bubble _ Quick macro heads up: -> Rate cut in 9 days ~97% odds. Frontrunning expected, go long. That's all.
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博主基于宏观利好更新美股AI/半导体/能源等板块的强烈买入、买入及持有名单。
大豆/植物油崩盘，个人思考与解释： 强烈买入 $ALAB $CRDO $NBIS $WLAC $LTC $TSM $BTC （+ 同上次税务收割股） $AMZN $SMCI _ 买入 $AMD $FLNC $SEI $BZAI $NKLR $IREN $WULF $CIFR $CRWV $BITF $WYFI $SLNH $BITF $RBRK $GLXY $GRAB $SEA $META $TGT $SNAP $MU $RKLB $FLY $UNH 持有 $MP $HOOD $EOSE $NVDA $GOOGL $DFLI $SOFI $VIRT $RR $AVGO $BE $ASTS （已达推文股票代码上限，其余同上次帖子，Quantum或Oklo仍建议卖出） _ 强烈买入 ALAB - 数据中心建设的重要组成部分，拥有类似英伟达(NVDA)的利润率，客户包括Mag7。已有来自博通(AVGO)的竞争者，真的不认为Arista会构成竞争威胁。 CRDO - 与ALAB同样的抛售，之前觉得两者都略有高估，但现在回到修正区间，适合补仓。 NBIS - $400目标价牛市情景。宏观顺风来自政府重新开放+10月底降息预期进入财报季，短期前景看好。利好众多（如Meta x CRWV，因此有更多Mag7客户的潜力），分部表现良好，例如Clickhouse，季度收入从$1亿扩展到$15亿+非常惊人。合同已锁定，只是公司执行的问题。 WLAC - 之前在$13时写过投资逻辑。即使在$14.5也很强，因为它可以轻松重估100%+。 LTC - 受杠杆交易者和政府停摆影响。预计停摆将持续一段时间，主要买入理由是ETF获批。但无论如何，低于$100都是很好的买入点，因为最终会获批（~95%概率）。 TSM - 天哪。如果是美国公司这将是$3万亿市值的公司，利润率惊人，对于其规模而言增长率惊人。每篇关于OpenAI X (**Sydney Sweeney合作)或AMD建设/NVDA建设的帖子中，TSM都是核心，即使以历史高点买入，也轻松成为$2万亿+公司（目前约$1.5万亿）。 BTC - $112K是好的入场点。黄金不断创历史新高，基本面没什么变化，只是最近大量清算。 （+ 同上次税务收割股） AMZN - 我真不知道为什么年初至今还在跌。我觉得亚马逊不需要太多解释，但仍在增长（例如AWS积压订单巨大，仍增长24%，当然不如ORCL、GCP等），但考虑到年底季节性和2月前的上涨，现在可能是抄底的最佳时机。AMZN今天触及$213-215是补仓的好机会，因为短期波段交易通常浮动在$218-$227，但长期我预计它会追赶其他Mag7。 SMCI - 被低估。市场关注短期表现，Charles引用的55%+同比前瞻收入增长无人相信+未实现的积压订单。但现在随着所有数据中心建设，这开始说得通了。因此应在接下来两次财报中重估。 _ 买入 AMD - OpenAI x AMD，Oracle使用AMD建设，这么多交易，如果它确实是$NVDA的强劲竞争对手，将重估为潜在$1万亿+公司。我不认为赢家通吃，可以看到$NVDA $4.5万亿+市值和$AMD $3500亿市值，所以我们可以看到大幅拉升（OpenAI通常是前沿模型领导者，如果Sam说他们可以使用AMD芯片+Elon说它对中小模型有益，可能意味着积极信号） FLNC - AI消耗后能源强劲重估，很好的买入。 SEI - AI消耗后能源强劲重估，很好的买入。 BZAI - 别人做过这家公司的深度研究，仅因板块和向边缘计算转移（例如机器人将很热）。由于低市值和类似公司的上涨可能表现良好。 NKLR - 像$OKLO这样的核能股已经起飞，这只是跟随梯队。 IREN - 无需介绍，巨大的GW算力，只是还没有宣布Mag7交易，但随时可能到来 -> 强劲重估。不是强烈买入的唯一原因是因为不完全确信矿工能像CRWV那样转型并保持高利润率（例如$ORCL打击文章），但我们会看到。 WULF - GOOGL积压订单，另外$3.6+亿左右的资金帮助很大。 CIFR - X上有很多关于未来产能和强劲重估的信息。一直喜欢这家公司，因为它是NBIS-lite。你可以买任何Neocloud，因为板块潜力巨大，Mag7将收入注入。 CRWV - 因为债务不像其他人那样喜欢，但由于植物油修正，$134（低于META交易宣布时）是更好的买入点 BITF - Neocloud类别相同 WYFI - Neocloud类别相同 BITF - Neocloud类别相同 GLXY - Neocloud类别相同，有助于其建设 RBRK - 做过深度研究，中期网络安全板块很好的买入，他们只需缩减营销，然后看起来有更多自由现金流，因为他们将大部分运营支出花在营销上。 GRAB - 基本面很好，-6.56%修正再次买入 SEA - 东南亚的AMZN，很多人使用。仅因客户群+变现潜力就买入。基本面$50亿+收入38% Y/Y增长也很好。 META - 我真的很不喜欢他们在AI上的昂贵资本支出，因为他们并没有像ChatGPT那样推出前沿模型，谁知道Zuck在做什么。但除此之外，一个月下跌7.3%，回到$700支撑位，可能在这里买入以追赶是个好主意。 TGT - 下个月股息是好的催化剂。 SNAP - Jenners回来了（有助于人气），他们将前记忆运营支出转为收入，这可能会导致明年巨大的重估。只是受税务收割影响，否则现在会是强烈买入。通常税务收割事件在12月完成。 MU - 现在中国恐惧稍微减弱，MU因为建设中的内存使用而成为更强的买入。 RKLB - 中子，金色穹顶合同，很多催化剂 FLY - 中等提升 UNH - 不受大豆影响的医疗保健股，但有修正。机构发布持仓后可能会上涨（例如Warren可能买了更多） 随机想法 基本上任何不是Oklo的成长/风险股都很好，因为我们有 -> 10月底降息 -> 政府重新开放（可能在10月底或11月初） 进入 -> 12月降息。 -> 中期选举（对股票看涨） 通常市场崩盘发生在紧缩而非宽松时。你的愚蠢量子泡沫可能会再持续3-12个月。如果你做空，可能等到明年2月。 无论如何，这是风险偏好的好时机，特别是搭乘Neoclouds -> 相关板块（例如能源）-> 相关公司（例如smci, tsm等）的趋势。 我半开玩笑地说大豆，因为它可能签署了升级紧张局势，但我可能会看到明年前的上涨。另外我可以写很多关于每一个的内容，但这很耗时，但我会不时发布关于随机股票如$RBRK的投资逻辑帖子。 太空/机器人/能源/量子/AI/半导体/关键垂直领域是目前最顶级的，不要对抗动量。我可以认为某些东西被高估了（例如一些关键材料，因为与Neoclouds相比仍然具有投机性，后者基于Mag7的执行有保证的收入），但我不会在降息时做空它。 只是个人想法，非财务建议
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The Great Soybean/Seed Oil Crash, personal thoughts and explanations: Strong Buy $ALAB $CRDO $NBIS $WLAC $LTC $TSM $BTC (+ same as tax harvest stocks last time) $AMZN $SMCI _ Buy $AMD $FLNC $SEI $BZAI $NKLR $IREN $WULF $CIFR $CRWV $BITF $WYFI $SLNH $BITF $RBRK $GLXY $GRAB $SEA $META $TGT $SNAP $MU $RKLB $FLY $UNH Hold $MP $HOOD $EOSE $NVDA $GOOGL $DFLI $SOFI $VIRT $RR $AVGO $BE $ASTS (Hit the ticker maximum but everything else from last post, still sell on Quantum or Oklo) _ Strong Buys ALAB - Huge part of datacenter buildout, NVDA like margins, Mag7 customers. Already had competitors from AVGO, really don't think Arista would be a competitive threat. CRDO - Same sell-off as ALAB, thought they were both kind of overvalued before, but now they're back in correction territory so good to stock up. NBIS - $400 PT bull case. We have macro tailwind from government re-opening + rate cut EOM october into earnings, so short term looks promising. Lot of things going for it (eg. meta x crwv, so there's potential for more mag7 clients), sum of parts doing well, eg. clickhouse, and scaling rev from $100m to $1.5B+ a quarter is insane. there's already contracts locked in its just a matter of company execution. WLAC - Wrote a thesis about this earlier at $13. Even at $14.5 strong because it can re-rate 100%+ easily. LTC - Affected by leverage traders and government shutdown. The shutdown is predicted to last awhile and the main reason to buy was the ETF getting approved. But a great buy sub <$100 anyway, because it will get approved in due time (~95% chance). TSM - Holy crap. This would be a $3T company if this were a US company, insane profit margins, insane growth rate for their size. And every post you see about OpenAi X (**sydney sweeney partnership) or AMD buildout/NVDA buildout. TSM is the center of it all and would easily be a $2T+ company (from here at ~$1.5T), even if buying at ATHs. BTC - $112K good entry point. Goldt keeps hitting ATH, nothing really changed fundamentally, just lot of liquidations recently (+ same as tax harvest stocks last time) AMZN - I really don't know how it's still down YTD. I don't think Amazon needs much explaining but still growing (eg. AWS backlog massive, still going like 24% but not as much as ORCL, GCP and others obviously), but with EOY seasonality and runup to Feb, now is probably the best chance to catch the bottom. AMZN hitting $213-215 today was a good chance to stock up since it usually floats between $218-$227 if you're short term swing trading but long term I'd expect it to catchup to other mag7. SMCI - Underrated. Markets were looking short term performance, and Charles was quoting like 55%+ Y/Y forward revenue growth which nobody believed + backlog that didnt get realized yet. But now with all the data center buildouts, now it's kinda making sense. So should re-rate in the next two earnings. _ Buy AMD - So many deals from OpenAI x AMD, oracle building out with AMD, this is going to re-rate to a potential $1T+ company if it's actually a strong competitive to $NVDA. I don't think it's winner takes all and you can see a $4.5T+ market cap size with NVDA and some $350B marketcap size with AMD, so we can see a large ramp up (OpenAI is usually the leader in frontier models and if Sam says they can use AMD chips + elon said its' good for small-medium weight models, prboably means something positive) FLNC - Strong re-rate on energy after AI consumption, great buy. SEI - Strong re-rate on energy after AI consumption, great buy. BZAI - Someone else did a DD on this company, just cause of sector and shift to edge compute (eg. Robotics goign to be hot). Because of low MC and runup of similar companies could turn out well. NKLR - Nuclear stocks like $OKLO have been taking off, this is just follow the lader. IREN - Needs no introduction, huge GW compute capacity just no announced mag7 deals yet but could come anytime -> strong re-rate. Only reason not a strong buy is because not fully convinced miners can pivot like CRWV and maintain great margins (eg. $ORCL hit piece) but we'll see. WULF - GOOGL backlog, another $3.6+ or so in funding helps a lot. CIFR - Lot of info on X about future capacity and strong re-rating. Always liked this company because it was NBIS-lite. You can probably buy any Neocloud and it will go up because the sector is incredibly high potential with Mag7 funneling revenue. CRWV - Didn't like this as much as others because of debt but because of the seed oil correction much better buy point at $134 (below when META deal was announced) BITF - Same in Neocloud category WYFI - Same in Neocloud category BITF - Same in Neocloud category GLXY - Same in Neocloud category, helps with their buildout RBRK - Did a DD on this, great buy for cybersecurity sector in mid term, they just need to scale back marketing and then it looks like they have a lot more FCF because they're spending most OPEX on marketing. GRAB - Great fundamentally, -6.56% correction good to buy again SEA - AMZN in SEA, tons of people use them. Just a buy just because of costumer base + monetization potenetial. Fundamentally growing $5B+ rev 38% Y/Y is also great. META - I really don't like all their expensive capex on AI since they're not really putting out fronteir models like ChatGPT with it, who knows what Zuck is doing. But that aside, down 7.3% over the month, going to $700 support, probably a good buy around here to play catchup. TGT - Dividend next month good catalyst. SNAP - The Jenners are coming back (helps with popularity), they're shifting former memory opex to revenue, and this will probably cause a HUGE rerating next year. Just suffers from tax harvesting otherwise would be a strong buy rn. Usually tax harvesting events are kinda done in December. MU - Now that China fears are kinda less intense, MU is a lot stronger buy just cause of memory use on buildout. RKLB - Neutron, golden dome contracts, lot of cataylsts FLY - Medium lift UNH - Healthcare stock not affected by soybeans but had a correction. Would likely go up one instituions post their ports (eg. warren likely bought more) Random thoughts Basically any growth/risk stock that's not named Oklo is great because we have -> Rate Cut end of month October -> Government re-opening sometime (likely around end of Oct or early Nov) Into -> Rate Cut December. -> Midterms (Bullish for stocks) Usually market crashes happen when there's tightening not easing. And your stupid quantum bubbles would likely continue for another 3-12 months afterward. If you're short, then probably wait till next Feb. Anyway, this is a great time for risk-on, and specially riding trends with neoclouds -> affiliated sectors (eg. energy) -> affiliated companies (eg. smci, tsm, etc). I half joke-about soybeans because it likely signed escalating tensions, but I'd probably see a run-up into next year. Also I could write up a lot about each one but it's pretty time consuming but I'll put on a thesis post about random ones eg. $RBRK, from time to time. Space/robotics/energy/quantum/ai/semi/critical top verticals right now, don't fight against momentum. I can think something is overvalued (eg. some critical materials bc. it's still spectulative compared to neoclouds that kinda have guaranteed rev based on execution from mag7) but I wouldn't short it into rate cuts. Just personal thoughts, NFA
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用游戏卡组比喻构建新云AI基础设施投资组合。
🧙♂️ 召唤艾克佐迪亚，理想的“新云”卡组 艾克佐迪亚卡组： 🧩 $NBIS – 头部 🧩 $WLAC – 左臂 🧩 $IREN – 右臂 🧩 $CIFR – 左腿 🧩 $WULF – 右腿 贪婪壶配置： 🏭 $TSM ⚡ $FLNC 🏡 $GLXY 当这五张牌全部进入你的投资组合时，Sydney Sweeney 将从“新云”降临 https://t.co/dlnjgCAIxl
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🧙♂️ Summoning Exodia, the ideal Neocloud Deck Exodia Deck: 🧩 $NBIS – Head 🧩 $WLAC – Left Arm 🧩 $IREN – Right Arm 🧩 $CIFR – Left Leg 🧩 $WULF – Right Leg Pot of Greed Setup: 🏭 $TSM ⚡ $FLNC 🏡 $GLXY When all five are in your port, Sydney Sweeney descends from the Neocloud https://t.co/dlnjgCAIxl
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NBIS凭借全栈软件及多元客户，长期潜力优于IREN。
IREN 短期内可能因原始算力(GW)优势而表现优异，但 $NBIS 具备在市场修正/崩盘中存活并最终成为下一个市值超1000亿美元的 $MSFT 的潜力，其价值源于各部分投资之和。此外，他们拥有多元化的客户群（从 $ORCL 财报中我们已看到其重要性）。同时具备全栈+软件编排能力（从 $ORCL 财报及 $CRWV 收购软件公司中可见其重要性）。市场正在定价矿工转型的能力，但正如甲骨文案例所示，始终存在盈利风险，因此 NBIS 已具备这一优势。
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IREN might outperform near term just because of raw GW but $NBIS has the potential to outlast any market correction/crash and become the next $100B+ $MSFT with sum of parts investments. Also they have diversified client base (we've seen why that's important with the $ORCL report) Also full stack + software orchestration (we've seen why that's important with the $ORCL report and why $CRWV has been buying up software companies). People are pricing in miners being able to pivot but there's always profitability risk as seen with oracle, hence why NBIS already has that down.
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上调NBIS目标价至450美元，重申其他新云标的跑赢大盘评级。
随着泰勒·斯威夫特进入新云(NeoCloud)领域，即便GPT-5拥有10GW算力也找不到她持久的男友。 我将$NBIS的1年目标价上调至$450，并重申对其他标的的跑赢大盘(outperform)评级，原因是能源消耗无限。
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With Taylor Swift entering the Neocloud space, not even 10GW compute on GPT-5 can find her a lasting boyfriend. Raising my 1Y price target on $NBIS to $450 and reiterating outperform on the rest due to infinite energy consumption. $WLAC $CIFR $FLNC $IREN $TSM $AMD $BITF $WYFI $GLXY
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祝贺粉丝AI股56%收益，感叹近期波动剧烈不敢做空。
@Crypto_LogicD @Sandeman52 @babyfolio @sunxliao 恭喜！Neoclouds/AI最近的表现简直疯狂。 我甚至不敢在周期权上卖出CCs（Crypto Clouds, $CCCS）48%的虚值合约，因为像$CIFR或$IREN这样的股票现在一天就能涨22% lol。 不过，56%的回报率确实太惊人了！
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@Crypto_LogicD @Sandeman52 @babyfolio @sunxliao Congrats! Neoclouds/AI have been insane recently. I’m afraid to sell CCs at 48% away for weeklies on stuff like $CIFR or $IREN cause they go up in 22% a day now lol. But yeah 56% return is spectacular!
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分析$RBRK基本面与估值，认为其是网络安全板块好买点，但非最佳机会。
所以人们几乎每隔一条帖子就问起 $RBRK，我知道它在 X 上很火。 为了让大家别再问（我也在 $82 买入了一些 Rubrik），我最终去研究了一下它。 我的研究 TLDR（太长不看版）： - 网络安全公司（该行业估值倍数极高，参考 $CRWD 或 $NET） - 80% 的毛利率（很棒） - ARR（年度经常性收入）超 10 亿美元，同比增长 40-50%（很棒） （对比 NET，ARR 约 22 亿+，同比增长 22%，市值几乎是其 5 倍） - 运营支出 (OpEx)：60-75% 的收入用于营销。这是一个巨大的积极信号。 运营营销支出虽好，但短期看起来很难看，例如 $HOOD 给客户 3% 转账奖励时，这会伤害短期财报，因为具有误导性且没多少人做拆解；但长期来看，当削减支出时，客户粘性高，这对盈利能力帮助很大。 自由现金流 (FCF) 为正，但运营支出分解主要是营销，这是好事，不同于 Snapchat 的谷歌云运营支出。 - 客户基础多元化，像 Cloudflare（如高盛、百事、埃森哲等）。 缺点： - 资产负债表不是最好，约 11 亿美元债务用于资助收购。至少是为了收购。 - 不喜欢其远期收入数字放缓了 20-25%，相比之下 $NBIS 明年增长 700% 或更多。显然不公平比较，但这就是为什么我更看好 Neoclouds（新云基础设施）。 _ 看起来是一个不错的中期持有标的，计划很简单 -> 扩大客户群 -> 缩减营销 + 高粘性客户群 -> 赶上网络安全行业估值倍数并拥有更高的 FCF。 通常这类高毛利率（如 $HOOD 在 $18 时，增长 ~50% y/y）且实现盈利的成长型公司，重估 (re-rate) 幅度最大。 $RBRK 只需在未来减少营销支出，突然就会因为其粘性客户群拥有大量 FCF。 TLDR：网络安全板块的好买点，但其他地方有更好的机会。
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So people keep asking me about $RBRK almost every other post and I know it's really popular on X. I ended up looking into it so people stop asking (and added some Rubrik to my portfolio at $82). TLDR my own research: - Cybersecurity company (industry trades at extremely high multiples, look at $CRWD or $NET) - 80% gross margins (great) - $1B+ ARR, grew 40-50% Y/Y (great) (comparison to NET, ~2.2B+ ARR, growing 22% Y/Y, almost 5x the MC) - OpEx spend: 60-75% of revenue goes to marketing. This is a huge positive. OpEx marketing spend is great but it looks really bad short term eg. $HOOD when they give customers 3% to transfer, it hurts short term in earnings reports bc it's deceptive and not many people do the breakdown but long term when they cut back on spend, customers are sticky and this helps a lot with profitability. FCF was positive, but breakdown of opex expenses was mainly marketing, which is a good thing, unlike Snapchat google cloud opex. - Diversified client base like Cloudflare (eg. goldman, pepsi, accenture, etc). Downsides: - Balance sheet not the best, $1.1B debt or so to fund acquisitions. At least it's about acquisitions. - Don't like how their forward revenue numbers slowed down 20-25% compared to something like $NBIS growing like 700% or something more for next year. Obviously unfair comparison, but that's why I liked Neoclouds more. _ Looks like a good mid term hold with a pretty simple plan -> scale customer base -> scale back marketing + sticky base -> catch up to industry multiples in cybersecurity and hv higher FCF. Usually these types of growth companies with high gross margins (eg. $HOOD back at $18, growing ~50 y/y) that turn profitable, re-rate the hardest. $RBRK just gotta spend less on marketing down the road and suddenly they have a lot of fcf with their sticky customer base. TLDR: Great buy for cybersecurity sector, better opportunities elsewhere.
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博主分享利用AI辅助研究，并对比不同板块的风险收益特征。
非常赞同，关键矿物确实很复杂。当我买入像 $MP 这类标的时，我通常会使用 ChatGPT 深度研究来帮助我更好地理解风险收益权衡。但当我买入随机的锂电池小盘股并发帖讨论时，我承认我缺乏领域知识。但就像你关于 $IREN 的 Neocloud 帖子一样，通常像 AI 基础设施建设（如 $CRWV）或量子计算（如 $IONQ）这样热门的领域会带动整个板块上涨。所以风险收益有时是值得的，但我不建议效仿我的做法，也不会对此投入过多的投资组合权重。而在数据中心基础设施建设等方面，风险收益比要好得多，因为只要有执行力，几乎可以确定会有收入，且有 Mag7 公司作为后盾。
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Heavily agree, critical minerals are really complex. When I buy stuff like $MP I usually use ChatGPT deep research to help me understand risk-reward tradeoffs better. But when I buy random lithium battery small caps and post about it I admit I don’t have domain knowledge. But like your Neocloud post about $IREN usually a popular domain like AI buildout with $CRWV or something like Quantum with $IONQ will uplift an entire sector anyway. So risk-reward is sometimes worth it but I wouldn’t follow what I do and wouldn’t put much portfolio weighting into it either. And it’s a much better risk-reward on stuff like data center buildout since it’s almost for sure revenue based on execution with mag7 backstopping companies.
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解析$NBIS全栈优势及分部估值，给出$400目标价，对比$CIFR/$IREN。
我仍持有6位数的随机$CIFR期权，但信心不高。 简短总结我对$NBIS比其他公司更有信心的原因： -Nebius是全栈式(full-stack) -> 利润率更高（GPU利用率的软件编排，我们曾讨论过其重要性，以及从$ORCL建设失败中建立的护城河，还有$CRWV收购大量软件公司的原因）。 -分部估值(sum of parts)（例如FTX投资Anthropic、$HOOD，它们在几年内都上涨了1000%）即使利润率受压，也能比主营业务更持久，且$NBIS在Clickhouse等优秀公司中持有大量股份。 -更分散的客户群（也从$ORCL那里学到了其重要性）用于建设->使用，相比其他Neoclouds。 高置信度$400目标价，牛市情景下1年内$1000亿市值。 我也做多$IREN等，仅因其电力容量，或$CIFR作为“轻量版Nebius”在融资+Mag7客户方面，但这与我坚信一家公司vs认为其基本面将跑赢略有不同。
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I still have 6fig in random $CIFR strikes but not high conviction. Short TLDR on why I have high conviction in $NBIS compared to others is because -Nebius is full stack -> higher margin (software orchestration for GPU utilization, we why that's important and a moat from $ORCL build-out failure, and why $CRWV bought out a lot of software companies). -sum of parts (eg. FTX investing in Anthropic, $HOOD, where they all went up 1000% over a few years) can outlast a main business even if margins got compressed and $NBIS has a large stake in great companies like Clickhouse -more diversified client base (learned from $ORCL why that's important too) for buildout -> usage compared to other Neoclouds. High conviction $400 PT, $100B MC in 1Y for a bull case. I'm long stuff like $IREN too just because of their power capacity or $CIFR being Nebius-light in terms how they did fundraising + Mag7 client but it's slightly different me believing in a company vs. thinking they will outform from fundamentals.
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基于周五大跌，列出AI/加密/太空股买卖清单，看好Neocloud及算力基建。
基于周五收盘（SPY跌3.6%）的思考与解释 强烈买入 $IBIT $LTC $WLAC $NBIS $MP $TSM （针对明年） $ETOR $DKNG $SNAP 买入 $UPWK $CRDO $ALAB $AMZN $META $UNH $SG $TGT $BULL $FLY $CIFR $WULF $IREN $GLXY $SMCI $DELL $MRVL 持有 $RKLB $HOOD $RBRK $MU $HOOD $GRAB $MARA $RIOT $NVO $RR $ELOSE $FLNC $SEI $PLTR 卖出 $CRCL $ETH $BMNR $PL $BKSY 强烈卖出 $RGTI $OKLO $IONQ $QBTS $QUBT _ 解释： IBIT - 跌至10.4万美元，比特币需求来自机构，关税担忧被夸大，并引发了历史上最大的清算事件之一。在我看来，清算后是购买加密货币的最佳时机。Polymarket仍定价年底有55%几率达到13万美元，但无论如何，比特币长期来看总是好的买入标的。 LTC - 单日下跌24%。使用10倍杠杆的人可能在抢先交易ETF并在交易所被清算。这可能是我见过的在98美元以下买入的最佳时机，因为政府停摆结束后ETF可能会获批。 WLAC - 由于与Fluidstack（帮助WULF和CIFR获得GOOGL背书的公司）的合作，以6亿美元估值成为有史以来最好的Neocloud SPAC IPO 1000%机会之一，而这两家公司估值为40-70亿美元。作为背景，他们将在Q4 IPO，所以你可能需要等待约2个月。 NBIS - 我持有信心最强的买入标的，明年任何Neocloud中都有400美元的激进目标价。 MP - 稀土的国家安全风险（+其他从勘探到锂电池的稀有材料股票表现可能会很好）。 TSM - 所有AI基础设施的骨干 _ 强烈买入的税务收割股票池 （可能需要等到明年） ETOR - 在38美元处严重超卖，可能是正在进行的税务收割事件叠加亏损。 DKNG - 本质上是一只成长股。鉴于市值，营收数据惊人，但他们处于年度低点-15%。可能受不受宏观影响的税务收割影响。 SNAP - 如果你读过我的论点，他们130亿美元的市值对应13亿美元的季度营收……我相信在降低运营支出+通过货币化GCP存储增加营收后，他们明年会重新评级。这只是市场何时定价的问题，但这需要1年以上。后投资者没有耐心。再次，可能受至今表现导致的年底税务收割影响。 _ 买入 UPWK - 昨日下跌4.5%，基本面极佳，~8亿同比营收，70%~或80%~的毛利率在增长，2亿回购，22亿市值。可能受罗素指数抛售影响。 CRDO - 数据中心交易，Mag7使用它们。 ALAB - 数据中心交易，Mag7使用它们。 AMZN - 虽然受到100%中国关税的实质性影响，但他们不会失去任何东西，因为成本会转嫁给商户或客户。 META - 可能因中国关税导致广告收入减少（例如，像Temu这样的中国供应商可能不会购买广告位），但仅基于-6%的1个月低点+作为落后于亚马逊的Mag7成员，我更看好它。 UNH - 医疗保健不太受100%中国关税或稀土影响。 SG - 下跌可能由于表现不佳+税务收割，但它几乎是1倍市销率（P/S）哈哈。 TGT - 我会将其列为强烈买入，因为股息催化剂+刚刚触及5年低点，但尚未对中国关税对该股票的影响做足够的研究。 BULL - 以与HOOD相似的速率增长，其基本面对于市值来说并不完全出色，但你会基于零售客户群和未来货币化潜力进行投资。 FLY - 我之前做过DD，但中型有效载荷很可能在2027年与诺斯罗普合作成功，这需要大量的耐心以换取潜在的1000%回报。 CIFR - Neocloud交易，始终看涨。像Meta X CRWV一样，更多细节可能很快公布。 WULF - Neocloud交易看涨。 IREN - Neocloud交易看涨。他们的融资轮次价格如果我记得没错的话是其股价的70%+，这是一个看涨信号（例如NBIS和CIFR在融资轮次后都达到了这一点）。 GLXY - Neocloud交易的一部分。 MRVL - 市场尚未充分定价其像NVDA一样56%的同比增长。 SMCI - 数据中心/星门建设 DELL - 数据中心/星门建设 _ 卖出 CRCL - 我会不断重复这一点，除非Circle能展示其能在利息收入之外货币化USDC，否则COIN优于Circle。因为COIN实际上获得50%的收入分成，再加上其平台上100%的收入。 ETH - 我会不断重复这一点，但我个人不会在3000美元以上买入。所以即使它下跌16%（你可以尝试波段交易，反弹至4000美元+），也始终有继续级联下跌至3000美元以下的风险，我已经数不清历史上发生过多少次了。 BMNR - 基本面与ETH挂钩。 PL - 太空股票已经上涨很多，我认为像RGTI和其他股票一样，基本面并未反映其市值。 BKSY - 太空股票已经上涨很多，我认为像RGTI和其他股票一样，基本面并未反映其市值。 强烈卖出 RGTI - 市值与估值极度脱节 OKLO - 市值与估值极度脱节 IONQ - 市值与估值脱节 QBTS - 市值与估值脱节 QUBT - 市值与估值脱节 显然存在中美贸易战的宏观压力，但这都不是新信息（中国稀土出口管制已为人所知一段时间+美国已经对中国商品征收关税） 我们正走向定价为70%的两次更多降息，以及大幅修正以清洗高估的泡沫并清算杠杆（例如加密货币），这将帮助市场走向更高的高点。我将始终推荐股票，因为对于好公司，如果你等待足够长的时间，它们可能会跑赢（但如果出现随机的宏观风险，短期可能会跑输）。 中期来看，我对Neoclouds在未来一年AI快速建设期间最为看好 -> 机器人/太空可能是之后的下一个前沿。 （该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）: Neocloud论点：超大规模资本支出漏斗 为什么我要投入150万美元+到Neoclouds，以及为什么这可能是200-300%+的回报。 🔹 类别 Mag7合同：$CRWV, $NBIS ✅, $WULF, $CIFR ✅ 带算力：$IREN ✅, $BITF 投机性：$WYFI, $GRRR ✅, $SLNH 转向HPC的矿工：$RIOT, $MARA, $CLSK, $HUT 论点： Mag7的AI算力紧张，这是由$NVDA设计导致的。 原本流向AWS、MSFT Azure、Google Cloud用于传统算力的数万亿美元资本支出，现在当他们无法处理来自Anthropic、OpenAI、Gemini等的新AI负载时，将流入Neoclouds。 这是一个十年一遇的机会，类似于使$NVDA成为4万亿美元公司的GPU军备竞赛，关于谁将为未来5-10年的AWS/Azure等提供基础设施。 NBIS（来自MSFT的170亿）、CIFR / WULF（来自GOOGL的30亿）、CRWV（由NVDA背书）都在以百分之几百的速度扩张（NBIS从1.5亿季度营收到可能的15亿+），毛利率为60-80%。 这种营收增长在历史上几乎闻所未闻。这主要是因为最富有的超大规模公司将资本支出注入小公司。 NVDA / TSM (2022->): 超大规模公司的GPU CRDO / ALAB (2024 ->): 超大规模公司获胜 -> 抛物线增长。 NBIS/CIFR/IREN等 (2025 - ) AWS/Azure等 -> 来自AI算力的抛物线增长 这就是如何获得百分之几百的回报，而不是在Paypal上进行价值投资。动量驾驭下一代公司。 所以看空论点通常涉及 - 执行风险（以前更投机，现在像NBIS这样的公司有40亿+来执行） 人们总是担心执行，但微软或谷歌不会在没有自己尽职调查的情况下签署如此大的5-10年合同。 - 高利率（主要看你CRWV），这就是为什么NBIS、CIFR和其他公司有潜在的惊人回报。 你有40亿+的资金用于$NBIS在138美元+每股（当它是107美元时）。以及$CIFR在16美元+每股的资金当它是11美元时。高于当前价格的融资是一个看涨信号。 - GPU折旧（有效的担忧，但它几乎像石油，即使是旧型号也保持价值并仍然提供权益）。 - 估值（我认为我们才刚刚开始。如果NBIS明年扩展到60亿营收75%毛利率），260亿市值非常小。 - NVDA可能推出自己的GPU即服务并直接竞争。目前这些Neoclouds是NVDA防止对Azure/AWS等集中风险的答案。 - 自定义超大规模芯片如TPU、Trainium。但可能还需要几年，因为他们仍在乞求NVDA算力并签署了5-10年合同。 无论如何，像Nebius这样的Neoclouds相对于远期营收/毛利率确实被低估了。 我们仍然非常早期。确保像特朗普选举时的Crypto/TSLA或OpenAI发布时的NVDA一样驾驭Neocloud浪潮。 当然这是高度投机的，我不会建议全仓YOLO，但为Google/MSFT等AI工作负载提供动力的这些5-200亿Neoclouds的风险回报是值得的。（交易时间范围：8个月-1年。） 这是2025-2026年最好的非对称AI基础设施交易。
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Based Friday Market Close (-3.6% SPY day), Thoughts and Explanations Strong Buy $IBIT $LTC $WLAC $NBIS $MP $TSM (For Next Year) $ETOR $DKNG $SNAP Buy $UPWK $CRDO $ALAB $AMZN $META $UNH $SG $TGT $BULL $FLY $CIFR $WULF $IREN $GLXY $SMCI $DELL $MRVL Hold $RKLB $HOOD $RBRK $MU $HOOD $GRAB $MARA $RIOT $NVO $RR $ELOSE $FLNC $SEI $PLTR Sell $CRCL $ETH $BMNR $PL $BKSY Strong Sell $RGTI $OKLO $IONQ $QBTS $QUBT _ Explanations: IBIT - Dumped to $104k, Bitcoin demand has been institutional, tariff fears overblown, and caused one of the biggest liquidation events in history. IMO post-liquidation is the best time to buy crypto. Polymarket still pricing in 55% chance to $130K EOY, but either way Bitcoin is always a good buy long term. LTC - Down 24% in one day. People on 10X margin were likely frontrunning ETF and got liquidated one exchanges. Probably the best time I've seen to buy sub $98 because ETF will likely get approved when government shutdown stops. WLAC - One of the best Neocloud SPAC IPO 1000% opportunities ever at $600m valuation because of their partnership with Fluidstack (the ones that helps WULF + CIFR get backstopped by GOOGL), and both of those are $4-7B. For context they're IPOing Q4, so you might need to wait ~2 months. NBIS - Strongest conviction buy I've had, $400 aggressive PT for next year out of any Neocloud. MP - National security risk for rare earths (+other rare materials stocks from exploration to Lithium batteries will likely perform well). TSM - Backbone of all AI Infrastructure _ Strong Buy Tax Harvesting Bucket of Stocks (Might need to wait for next year) ETOR - Way too oversold at $38, likely tax harvesting event going on compounding losses. DKNG - Fundamentally a growth stock. Revenue numbers are insane given market cap but they're -15% yearly low. Likely compounded by tax harvesting unaffected by Macro. SNAP - If you read my thesis, they're doing 1.3B quarterly revenue off a 13B marketcap... I'm convinced they will re-rate next year after lowering opex + increasing revenue from monetizing GCP storage. It's just a matter of when the market will price this in, but this is 1Y+ out. Post investors aren't patient. Again likely affected by EOY tax harvesting due to performance so far. _ Buys UPWK - Down 4.5% from yesterday, amazing fundamentals, ~800m y/y rev off 70%~ or 80~ gross margins thats growing, 200m buybacks, 2.2B market cap. Likely affected by Russell selloff. CRDO - Data Center Trade, Mag7 uses them. ALAB - Data Center Trade, Mag7 uses them. AMZN - It's materially affected by 100% Chinese tariffs but they won't lose anything, since it gets passed onto the merchant or customers. META - Probably less ad revenue by Chinese tariffs (eg. Chinese vendors like Temu, might not buy adspace), buy just based on -6% 1m low + Mag7 laggard with Amazon, I like it more. UNH - Healthcare not really impacted 100% Chinese Tariff or rare earths. SG - It's down likely due to bad performance + tax harvesting but it's almost 1 P/S lol. TGT - I'd put it Strong Buy due to dividend catalyst + 5Y low just now, but haven't dont enough research on the effect on Chinese tariffs on the stock yet. BULL - Growing at similar rates asHOOD, their fundamentals aren't exactly great for the market cap but you would invest based on retail customer base and the future potential for monetization. FLY - I did a DD on this earlier but Medium Lift Payload likely to succeed with Northrop in 2027, it takes a TON of patience for a potential 1000% moonshot. CIFR - Neocloud trade, always bullish. Like Meta X CRWV, more details likely to come soon. WULF - Neocloud trade bullish. IREN - Neocloud trade bullish. Their funding round was at some number 70%+ of their stock price if I remember correctly, which is a bullish tell (eg. NBIS and CIFR both hit that after their fundraising round). GLXY - Part of Neocloud trade. MRVL - It's not really priced in that it's growing 56% Y/Y like NVDA. SMCI - Data center/stargate buildout DELL -Data center/stargate buildout _ Sell CRCL - I will keep repeating this but COIN is better than Circle unless Circle can show they can monetize USDC outside from interest income. Because COIN literally gets 50% revenue sharing and on top of that 100% of the revenue on its platform. ETH - I will keep repeating this but I will not personally buy above $3000. So even if it dips 16% (you can take the chance of a swing trade, back up to $4k+), there's always the chance it keeps cascading down below $3k and I've lost track of how many times this has happened in history. BMNR - Tied with ETH fundamentally. PL - Space stocks have gone up a lot, I think with stuff like RGTI and others, fundamentals haven't mirrored it's marketcap. BKSY - Space stocks have gone up a lot, I think with stuff like RGTI and others, fundamentals haven't mirrored it's marketcap. Strong Sell RGTI - market cap extremely disconnected from valuation OKLO - market cap extremely disconnected from valuation IONQ - market cap disconnected from valuation QBTS - market cap disconnected from valuation -market cap disconnected from valuation There's obviously a macro overhead with China x USA trade wars going on, but none of this was new information (Chinese rare earth export controls have been known for awhile + US has already been tarrifing Chinese goods) We're heading into 2x more rate cuts priced in at 70% and large corrections to cleanse the overvalued froth and liquidate margins (eg. Crypto), will help the market go to higher highs. I will always recommend shares because with good companies, if you wait long enough they will likely outperform (but short term underperform if there's random macro risk). Mid term I'm the most bullish on Neoclouds for the next year during the rapid AI buildout -> Robotics/Space likely next frontier after that.
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IREN盘后剧烈波动，低流动性适合逢低买入。
@antwithastick $IREN 的情况也一样，IREN 先跌了 21%，随后又反弹至正值 +2%，这是我见过最疯狂的事情。盘后低流动性会极大地放大波动，这非常适合逢低买入。
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@antwithastick Same with $IREN, IREN went down 21% then going back positive +2% was the craziest thing I've seen. After hours low-liquidity exaggerates a ton of movements, and it's great for dip buying.
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关税冲击致市场恐慌，建议现金抄底非直接受损股，作者认亏持仓。
让人想起越南的闪回。 说笑归说笑，特朗普对中国进口商品加征100%关税并限制关键软件对华出口后，市场下跌超过3.65%。 这一突发事件是理性的重新定价，但也由恐惧和追加保证金通知（margin calls）所催化（盘后，例如$IREN下跌21%，或$BTC跌至10.7万美元）。 这通常预示着增长放缓和通胀上升（降息概率降低）。 然而，Polymarket和美联储期货数据仍显示到2025年有70-72%的概率进行3次降息。明年的中期选举通常对股市有利。而且我们正接近季节性行情的尾声，这通常对股市最有利。 当然，许多股票在交火中下跌，没有任何直接暴露，例如$UNH或$DKNG（例如Draftkings与中国、进口等无关，因为它是美国体育相关的，但下跌了9.4%）。 简而言之：可能是短期的关税冲击，轻微的宏观风险，以及由恐惧引发的整体抛售，但随后将恢复。 现在市场已关闭，在流动性低、利差大的时候（如盘后/隔夜）可以赚很多钱（在早期的关税事件中，$HOOD隔夜从45美元跌至28美元，随后大幅反弹至100美元以上）。 正是由于这类随机事件，我不建议持有期权，因为头寸可能会瞬间被核爆。 如果你持有现金头寸，去为极端抛售寻找便宜货，例如$CIFR下跌16%至14美元，而不是恐慌性地卖出你自己的头寸。 否则，这类事件通常只是短期的冲击，我们可能会看到在10月下旬降息前的恢复。当然，前提是股票没有像$QLCM、$NKE、$MU、$CDNS等那样受到中国收入的实质性影响。 （我没有预料到反应的严重程度，今天损失了不少，但将持有头寸）。
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Getting Vietnam flashbacks. Jokes aside, markets dropped 3.65%+ after Trump tarrifs Chinese imports by 100% and restricts the export of critical software to China. This surprise event was rational repricing but also catalyzed by fear + margin calls (after hours, with $IREN dropping 21% for example, or $BTC dropping to $107k). What this typically foreshadows is slower growth and higher inflation (lower rate cut odds). However, Polymarket and Fed futures data still shows 70-72% of 3 rate cuts by 2025. Midterm elections next year are also generally bullish for stocks. And we're approaching end of season seasonality, which is typically the best for stocks. And of course, many stocks dropped in crossfire without any direct exposure, such as $UNH or $DKNG (eg. Draftkings has nothing to do with China, imports, etc. since it's US sports related, but fell 9.4%) TLDR: likely a short term tariff shock, mild macro risk, and a overall sell-off from fear, but into recovery. Now that markets are closed, a lot of money can be made is in times of low liquidity high-spread like after-hours/overnight (during earlier tariffs, $HOOD dropped from $45 to $28 overnight then went on a massive rally to $100+). Random events like these are why I don't recommend options as positions can be nuked up in an instant. If you have cash positions, go bargain hunting for extreme selloffs, eg. $CIFR dropping 16% to $14, instead of panic selling your own positions. Otherwise, things like these are usually short term from shock, and we'll likely see a recovery frontrunning rate cut in late October. That of course if the stock isn't materially impacted from China revenue unlike $QLCM, $NKE, $MU, $CDNS, etc. (I didn't expect the extent of the reaction, lost a decent amount today, but will hold positions).
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分析$FLY与诺斯罗普合作开发中型火箭的潜力，认为其风险回报优于$RKLB。
自从我在 Reddit 发帖后，很多人询问我的 $FLY 投资论点，现在分享如下： Firefly 是一家像 $RKLB 这样的火箭公司，正在开发可重复使用的中型运载火箭。 目前唯一存在的竞争对手是 SpaceX。 他们目标在 2026-2027 年实现，如果成功，公司市值将重估至 300-700 亿美元，较当前（44 亿美元市值）增长 1000-2000%。 更多细节： 300-700 亿美元的市值估算基于 $RKLB 的估值倍数，且仅假设中型运载火箭业务成功。（我忽略了其他业务板块和当前超过 10 亿美元的订单积压）。 在中型运载火箭业务上：预计年收入约 9-13 亿美元，在可行的发射节奏（8-12 次）下，毛利率为 30-40%。猎鹰系列火箭的定价支持这一预期。 所以现在唯一的问题是，FLY 能成功吗？ 在 Firefly 最近一次发射失败后，股价下跌 50%，市场已经计入了未来失败的风险。看空者指出 Alpha 火箭的失败代表了执行风险。然而，他们完全错误地定价了这种风险... 他们应该问的问题是：诺斯罗普 (Northrop) 和 Firefly 能否共同成功？ 这是美国最大的航空航天国防承包商之一诺斯罗普，与一家市值仅 40 亿美元的发射公司之间的联合开发 (Co-development)。 诺斯罗普此前曾拥有自己的中型运载火箭，但不得不终止。诺斯罗普之前的发射器 Antares 230 在俄罗斯 2022 年入侵乌克兰之前运行正常，随后供应链被切断。 然而，诺斯罗普面临生存问题：它无法再制造自己的第一级火箭。因此，为了节省时间，他们寻找一家拥有现成推进系统和结构的美国合作伙伴：Firefly。 -> 动机：Firefly 的 Miranda 发动机提供了即插即用的替代方案，可立即构建中型运载火箭。 现在你拥有一枚在 2026-2027 年可由 Firefly 货币化的中型运载火箭（因为诺斯罗普持有该公司股份），只需使其可重复使用，这是最难的部分。 但诺斯罗普不仅仅是“帮忙”。它在各个方面结构性地降低了风险。诺斯罗普的系统加上 Firefly 的新太空发动机，占据了稀缺且高需求的护城河（美国可重复使用中型运载火箭），这已通过 TacRS 和超过 10 亿美元的订单积压以及美国“金穹”防御系统催化剂得到验证。 因此，购买 Firefly 的风险回报比是合理的，前提是公司在中型运载火箭上成功并建立巨大的护城河，成为下一个 SpaceX。 （我的投资组合中也有 $RKLB，但我认为由于中型运载火箭已与诺斯罗普合作存在，成功实现可重复使用中型运载火箭的机会高于正常水平。） 显然，Rocket Lab 实现可重复使用中型运载火箭的成功概率更高，但这已经反映在其 320 亿美元以上的市值中，相比之下 Fly 的市值仅为 44 亿美元。 我认为 $FLY 在当前估值下是一个有趣的 10 倍潜力股，前提是它能在未来一两年内成功。另外，我只是真的很喜欢火箭。 我还让 Grok 计算了概率，因为 XAI 由火箭人 (Rocketman) 本人拥有。 输出： 到 2027 年底，Rocket Lab 有 90% 以上的机会实现可重复使用中型运载火箭飞行（可能在 2026 年中），得益于其先发优势、经过验证的执行力和内部控制。 Firefly/诺斯罗普达到 75-80% 的概率，得益于诺斯罗普的遗产，但受限于 Firefly 较新的运营记录。额外的一年缩小了差距——如果 Antares 330 按时飞行且 Miranda 发动机规模化，Firefly 可能在 2027 年底匹配或超过 Neutron 的节奏。 如果两者都成功（这是一个巨大的假设），RKLB 的市值可能重估至 600 亿美元，$FLY 可能重估至 400 亿美元，只是因为太空 TAM（总可寻址市场）因国家安全风险和企业部门建设而迅速增加，可能只需再等一年。
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People have been asking for my $FLY thesis since my Reddit post, so here it is: Firefly is a rocket company like $RKLB, and is developing a reusable medium-lift rocket. The only one that exists is SpaceX. They target 2026-2027, and if they succeed, the company would re-rate to a 30-70B market cap, 1000-2000% from here (4.4B MC) More details: The 30-70B marketcap estimate is priced off $RKLB multiples, and only on medium-lift working. (I'm ignoring other business segments and current $1B+ revenue backlog). In a year with medium-lift: ~$0.9–1.3B revenue, with 30–40% gross margins at workable cadence (8–12 flights). Falcon-class pricing support this. So now the only question is, can FLY make it work? After Fly's individual company latest launch failure, the stock dropped 50% and the market is already pricing in the feature of failure. The bears are pointing to Alpha's failures for execution risk. HOWEVER, they're pricing the risk in completely wrong... The question they should be asking is, whether both Northrop + Firefly can make this work? This is a CO-DEVELOPMENT between Northrop, one of America's largest military contractors for Aerospace with some tiny $4B marketcap launch company. Northrop literally had its own medium-lift rocket before but they had to sunset it. Northrop’s prior launcher, Antares 230 worked before Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine, then the supply chain was cut off. However, Northrop faced an existential problem: it couldn’t build its own first stage anymore. So they went looking for a U.S. partner with ready-made propulsion and structures for the sake of time: Firefly. -> Motivation: Firefly’s Miranda engines offered a plug-and-play replacement to immediately build a medium lift launcher. And now you have a medium lift launcher in 2026-2027 that Firefly monetizes (because Northrop took a stake in the company), just need to make it re-usable, which is the hard part. But Northrop doesn’t just “help.” It structurally lowers risk across every aspect across the board. And Northrop’s system + Firefly’s new-space engines hits a scarce, high-demand moat (U.S. medium-lift with reuse), already validated by TacRS and a $1B+ backlog + US golden dome defense system catalyst. So, risk reward of buying Firefly on the company succeeding on Medium-Lift Launcher and developing a huge moat to be the next SpaceX, is decent. (I also have $RKLB in my portfolio too, I just see the opportunity of succeeding in reusable Medium Lift to be higher than normal because it medium-lift already existed with Northrop). Obviously Rocketlab has a higher probability of success achieving reusable medium lift, but that's already priced into its 32B+ marketcap, compared to a 4.4B Fly marketcap. I just find $FLY to be an interesting 10x moonshot at this valuation in the chance it works in the next year or two. Also I just really like rockets. I also had Grok calculate the odds since XAI is owned by Rocketman himself. _ Output: By end-2027, Rocket Lab has a 90%+ chance of achieving reusable medium-lift flights (likely by mid-2026), driven by their head start, proven execution, and in-house control. Firefly/Northrop reaches 75–80% probability, bolstered by Northrop’s legacy but tempered by Firefly’s newer operational track record. The extra year narrows the gap—Firefly could match or exceed Neutron’s cadence by late 2027 if Antares 330 flies on time and Miranda engines scale. In the event they both get it to work (big if), RKLB could re-rate to $60B marketcap, and $FLY could re-rate to 40B marketcap, just because of TAM of Space rapidly increasing from national security risks and corporate sector buildout, just might need to wait another year.
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博主表示持有并看涨IREN，但批评其短期期权风险管理策略。
@midlevelcruiser 嘿，搞什么鬼，我持有 $IREN，我对 IREN 看涨。 我不喜欢的是为了风险管理使用两周到期的期权，哈哈。
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@midlevelcruiser yo wtf, I have $IREN, I'm bullish on IREN. The thing I didn't like was the 2 week expiry on options for risk management lmao
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博主调整ETF持仓：大幅加仓AMD及新购多只AI/能源股，减仓部分股票以进行税务亏损收割。
哇，我在这个ETF上操作得极其激进，一切都涨得**很多。 不管怎样，以下是一些我会做的公司调整及解释： $AMD - +10%（重新评级） $FLY - +3%（新增） $WLAC - +1%（新增） $MU - +1%（新增） $FLNC - .5%（新增） $SEI - .5%（新增） $DFLI - - .25%（新增） _ 减仓（进行税务亏损收割 Tax harvesting） $ORCL $LULU $META $UPWK $ETOR $SNAP 其他小盘股 _ 以下是解释 $AMD - 刚刚获得了1000多亿美元的前瞻性收入，他们的季度收入几乎一夜之间翻倍，而且市场甚至还没有定价。极强的买入信号 $FLY - 44亿美元估值，从事类似$RKLB的小型至中型发射任务。让我想起RocketLab刚起步的时候，风险回报比很好。 $WLAC - Neocloud IPO，估值6亿美元（很低），EBITDA毛利率75%+，营收同比增长250%，很可能由Mag7（七大科技巨头）提供保底支持 $MU - 鉴于Stargate + OpenAI所需的基础设施量，内存需求旺盛 $FLNC + $SEI - 能源板块（高风险高回报） $DLFI - 电池板块（高风险高回报） 减仓 $ORCL - 在GPU建设方面遇到困难，这正好显示了超大规模云服务商和像$NBIS这样的Neocloud之间的护城河。直接购买Neocloud有更高的上行空间。 $LULU, $META, $UPWK, $ETOR, $SNAP. - 涨幅不大，我们要尽可能激进地持有赢家，并在完成税务亏损收割后回购，例如换成$AMD，以及获得更高回报的三次降息收益。 将在年底完成税务亏损收割后回购。
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Wow I cooked insanely hard with this ETF, everything is up a **** ton. Anyway, some company changes I'd make + explanations: $AMD - +10% (rerate) $FLY - +3% (new) $WLAC - +1% (new) $MU - +1% (new) $FLNC - .5% (new) $SEI - .5% (new) $DFLI - - .25% (new) _ Trim (Tax harvesting) $ORCL $LULU $META $UPWK $ETOR $SNAP Misc small caps _ Here's an explanation $AMD - Just got $100B+ in forward revenue lol, they almost doubled their quarterly revenue overnight and hasn't even been priced in yet. Extremely strong buy $FLY - $4.4B valuation doing small-medium lift launches like $RKLB. Reminds me of RocketLab when they first started, risk-reward is good. $WLAC - Neocloud IPO at $600m valuation (low) for something doing 75%+ EBITDA gross margin + 250% rev from last year + likely backstopped by Mag7 $MU - Memory in demand given the amount of infra required by Stargate + OpenAI $FLNC + $SEI - Energy Play (high risk high reward) $DLFI - Battery Play (high risk high reward) Trim $ORCL - Having trouble with GPU buildout, just goes to show the moat between hyperscalers and Neoclouds like $NBIS. Higher upside just buying Neoclouds. $LULU, $META, $UPWK, $ETOR, $SNAP. - Hasn't gone up much, we're playing as aggressive as possible with winners and will buy back once tax harvesting is done, eg. swap for $AMD, and higher return triple rate cut returns. Will buy back near EOY once tax harvesting is done.
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IREN产能规模远超NBIS等对手
@cmachdop $IREN 的吉瓦(GW)产能规模远大于 $NBIS 等其他竞争对手，即便他们目前没有任何订单。
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@cmachdop The amount of GW capacity $IREN has is a lot larger than other players like $NBIS even if they have no deals
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分享NBIS、CIFR、IREN及WYFI等AI算力相关个股观点。
@DeepValueBagger @__visionxry__ 有道理，我最看好的前三只是 $NBIS、$CIFR（在“七大科技巨头”+融资方面类似于轻量版 Nebius），以及 $IREN（仅因其 GW 级算力容量及未来与“七大科技巨头”的交易）。 我只是想补充一些沿着 Neocloud 路线的标的，比如 $WYFI。
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@DeepValueBagger @__visionxry__ Makes sense, top three favorites for me were $NBIS, $CIFR being Nebius-lite in terms of Mag7 + funding, and then $IREN just for the GW capacity + future mag7 deals. I just thought I'd add some more down the Neocloud line like $WYFI.
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分析WYFI低成本改造优势及小市值重估潜力
确实。玩笑归玩笑（抱歉吓到 @DeepValueBagger），$WYFI 的优势可能在于其改造设施的成本比竞争对手新建（greenfield）数据中心低40%，且他们不依赖租赁。与矿企相比，它是纯高算力(HPC)标的。劣势是他们不像 $NBIS 那样自建编排(orchestration)堆栈，也不像 $IREN 那样扩张迅速。但他们拥有基础设施而非租赁。这是垂直整合的硬件与物理层 HPC 基础设施。我基于所有 Neocloud 都有增长空间，且考虑到 $13 亿的小市值，认为其有更大的重估空间。Clear Street 分析师给出的 $51 目标价可能在数字测算上更专业，建议参考他们的观点。
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True. Jokes aside (sorry to scare @DeepValueBagger) $WYFI's edge is probably converting facilities for 40% lower cost than greenfield (built from scratch) data centers that others need to build, and they're not lease heavy. It's also pure play HPC compared to miners. Downside is they don't build their own orchestration stack like $NBIS or scale as fast as $IREN. But they own the infrastructure instead of leasing. Vertically integrated HPC infrastructure for hardware and psychical only. I'm just going off the assumption there's room to grow across all Neoclouds and there's more room for re-rating considering the small $1.3B market cap size. The analysts at Clear Street that gave a $51 PT probably do a better job with number crunching so I'd just refer to them.
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博主分享了一份包含多只股票权重的投资组合分散化示例。
@DigestingX 我在这里写了一个投资组合分散化的例子：https://t.co/R7eMeeqR29 （引用内容：我收到了很多关于股票权重的提问。我会构建的投资组合是：30% $NBIS，6% AMZN，5.5% TSM，5% BTC，5% LULU，4% UNH，4% $RKLB，4% LTC，3% ORCL，3% TGT，3% GRAB，2% $IREN，2% META，2% HOOD，2% HIMS，2% AMD，2% NVO，1.5% CRDO，1% BITF，1% ASTS，1% SG，1% UPWK，1% MP，1% FOUR，1% ETOR，1% INTC，1% COIN，1% SMCI，1% MRVL，1% DAVE，0.5% DLO，0.5% MELI，0.5% SNAP，0.5% CRWV，0.2% ONDS，0.2% NFE，0.2% TSSI，0.2% BKKT，0.2% GRRR）
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@DigestingX I wrote an example of portfolio diversification here https://t.co/R7eMeeqR29
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分析NBIS因客户多元及软件优势，利用率表现优于IREN和ORCL。
这是多种因素混合的结果，文章没有提供细分数据。一个主要原因是建设/利用率与收入增长之间存在滞后。$NBIS 在这方面的表现优于 $IREN 和 $ORCL，因为他们拥有高度多元化的客户群 + 更好的软件编排能力以实现更高的整体利用率。我不同意这主要是由托管(colocation)造成的，因为导致甲骨文利润率下滑的是同时发生的4-5个不同因素。
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It's a mix of things, the article doesn't provide breakdown. A large reason was because of lag between buildout/utilization and revenue ramp. $NBIS does better than $IREN $ORCL in the regards that they have a heavily diversified customer base + better software orchestration to achieve higher utilization throughout. I disagree that it was mainly due to colocation since it's 4-5 different things at once causing margin loss for oracle.
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甲骨文GPU服务亏损凸显新型云在资本效率与利润率上的优势，利好NBIS等。
为什么$ORCL在GPU即服务（GPU-as-a-Service）方面面临的挑战（据泄露消息）实际上对Nebius等新型云（Neoclouds）是利好。 超大规模云服务商在GPU经济学上的挣扎，加强了专业化新型云的论点。 这对$NBIS、$WYFI、$IREN、$CIFR、$CRWV等股票来说是一个惊人的机会： 简而言之（据传闻）： 甲骨文面临亏损源于： - 客户增长前的低利用率（闲置产能） - 巨额前期资本支出（Blackwell GPU） - 沉重的 overhead（运营开销） - 折扣定价 结果：甲骨文的GPU计算业务出现负毛利率。 这对甲骨文是利空，对新型云是利好：这仅仅表明 1. 复杂性的证明 = 护城河的验证。 像$NBIS这样的新型云做得更好，这是一个真正的竞争优势和利润率机会（这就是为什么$MSFT选择与Nebius签约而不是自建）。 2. 资本效率优势。 新型云使用租赁/托管以获得灵活性（例如NBIS在Patmos和Verne），并通过工作负载分配保持高利用率（而甲骨文在利用率上挣扎）。 3. 外包需求增加 如果甲骨文和超大规模云服务商在建设上遇到困难，他们可能会将工作负载转移到新型云并签署更多合同（例如MSFT与CRWV）。 4. 甲骨文在此使用了折扣价格。新型云可以在优化利润率的基础上进行理性定价。 5. 定制基础设施提高利润率 像Nebius这样的新型云拥有用于GPU调度的定制编排堆栈，大量内部软件和自动化以最大化利用率和产出，从而维持50-70%的毛利率，相比之下ORCL则不然。 这对甲骨文和超大规模云服务商的建设是利空，但实际上对$CRWV、$NBIS等专业新型云提供商是利好。
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Why $ORCL facing challenges with GPU-as-a-Service (from leaks) is actually bullish for neoclouds like Nebius. Hyperscalers struggling with GPU economics strengthens the case for specalized neoclouds. This is an insane opportunity on $NBIS, $WYFI, $IREN, $CIFR, $CRWV and others: TLDR: (from rumors) Oracle faced a loss from: - Low utilization (idle capacity) before customer ramp - Massive upfront CapEx (Blackwell GPUs) - Heavy overhead - Discount pricing Result: Negative gross margins on GPU compute for Oracle. This is negative for Oracle, positive for Neoclouds: This is just goes to show 1. Proof of Complexity = Validation of Moat. Neoclouds like $NBIS do it better and this is an actual competitive moat and margin opportunity (This is why $MSFT went to Nebius to sign a deal instead of building it out themselves). 2. Capital Efficiency Advantage. Neoclouds use Leasing / colocation for flexibility (e.g. NBIS in Patmos & Verne), workload allocations to maintain high utilization (while Oracle struggled with utilization). 3. Outsourcing Demand Increases Oracle and Hyperscalers might shift workloads to Neoclouds and sign more contracts if they have trouble with buildout (eg. MSFT with CRWV) 4. Oracle used discount prices here. Neoclouds can just price rationally on top of optimizing their margins. 5. Custom Infra Increases Margins Neoclouds like Nebius have custom orchestration stacks for GPU scheduling, lot of internal software and automation to maximize utilization and yield to sustain 50-70% gross margins compared to ORCL. This is news negative for Oracle and Hyperscaler buildout but actually bullish for specialized neocloud providers like $CRWV, $NBIS, and others.
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分析NBIS、AMZN、SNAP等个股机会，看好AI基建及降息预期。
10月6日周一收盘思考： - $NBIS 是极好的逢低买入机会。早盘上涨5.78%后回落2.38%。从 $IREN 到 $CIFR 的所有其他新云(Neoclouds)公司都守住了4%-14%+的涨幅。Nebius可能受期权资金流影响，预计很快会补涨，我维持 $225 的目标价(PT)。 - $AMZN, $META 是两只在未来2-3个月应跑赢大盘并补涨的七巨头(Mag7)成员。尤其是亚马逊。 - $SNAP, $RDDT 是两个不错的反弹标的。Snapchat尤其因为收入变现模式的改变。如果你有耐心持有股票一两年，我预期会有50%+的回报，只是取决于市场何时将其定价。并非每个人都有耐心，且将资金用于 $SNAP 而非新云(Neoclouds)的机会成本可能不划算。 关于Reddit，我一直认为ChatGPT引用是其暴跌29%的借口，所以我已买入。 - $SPRB 吸引了所有人的注意。我预计它将从7500万美元市值继续上涨至1.5亿-2亿美元，但这就像玩俄罗斯轮盘赌，通常在重大事件后2-3天就会发生稀释。 - 像 $RKLB 这样的股票，只需持有哈哈。即使它是我最高信用的5年期长线标的，也确实高估了，但此时它可能会像 $PLTR 一样表现。 - $AMD 与 OpenAI 的交易对半导体行业极度利好。我预计 $TSM, $ASML, 能源股和新云(Neoclouds)将从AI基础设施建设中受益。主要的负面因素是 $CRWV，因为其对 $NVDA 的依赖，以及显然的NVDA本身，但新云(Neoclouds)并未锁定单一玩家，且已锁定5-10年以上的合同。 这仅对 $NVDA 的护城河理念造成微小影响，但尚无实质性影响。 我个人认为AMD可能会像 $ORCL 一样在反弹后回调，然后当市场开始计入远期收入时，像 $AVGO 一样表现。 话说回来，我不知道OpenAI从哪弄来这么多钱，承诺给Oracle、AMD等这些十亿或百亿美元的交易，如果它们估值只有5000亿的话哈哈。 - 黄金每天创历史新高，仅仅表明 $BTC 始终是好的买入标的，即使在 $123k，如果它最终成为对抗通胀的对冲工具。其市值约为黄金的1/10。 - $LTC 仍然是很好的买入标的，因为ETF获批。由于政府停摆，人们只是忘记了它尚未发生，但最终应该会获批。 - $VIRT 在 $32.5 是极好的买入，我会在这个区间进行成本平均（抱歉如果你在 $36 买了看涨期权，我的仓位下跌了约35%）。但再次强调，这是对VIX的非对称对冲（VIX隐含波动率很高用于对冲，VIRT被低估~6.3倍远期市盈率，有回购和低隐含波动率），所以即使仓位下跌，你的其他股票应该会上涨以平衡。 - 仍在研究其他受益于基础设施建设的能源股、小盘股如 $EOSE、存储如 $MU 等，这些是粉丝推荐的。我尽量不在自己充分了解前谈论太多。 - 如果你使用杠杆或做多，现在是时候了，直到一月。三次降息，市场可能正在提前交易十月的降息。
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Monday October 6th Market Close Thoughts: - $NBIS extremely good dip buy. Down 2.38% after rising 5.78% in the morning. All other Neoclouds from $IREN to $CIFR held their 4%-14%+ gains. Nebius likely influenced by option flow, should play catchup soon and I stand by $225 PT. - $AMZN, $META two Mag7 that should outperform next 2-3 months and play catchup with the rest. Especially Amazon. - $SNAP, $RDDT two good recovery plays. Snapchat especially because of the revenue monetization changes. If you have the patience for shares for a year or two, I'd expect a 50%+ return, just whenever the market wants to price it in. Not everyone has patience and opportunity cost using the funds in $SNAP instead of Neoclouds might not be worth. Reddit I've maintained that the citations from ChatGPT is a BS reason for a 29% sell-off so I bought into it. - $SPRB caught everyone's attention. I do expect it to keep rising to a $150-$200m marketcap from $75m but it's like playing Russian Roulette, usually dilution happens 2-3 days after a major event. - Stuff like $RKLB, just need to hold lol. It's genuinely overvalued even if it's highest conviction 5Y long but at this point it might pull a $PLTR. - $AMD x OpenAI deal heavily bullish for semi industry. I expected $TSM, $ASML, energy stocks and Neoclouds to get a boost from AI infra buildout. Main negative ones were $CRWV, because of $NVDA dependencies and obviously NVDA, but Neoclouds aren't locked into one player, and they already have 5-10+ year contracts locked in. It just puts a tiny dent in the $NVDA moat idea but nothing material yet. I personally think AMD might pull an $ORCL where it dips past rally, and then ends up pulling an $AVGO when markets start pricing in forward revenue. Then again, I don't know where OpenAI is getting all this money to promise Oracle, AMD, etc. all these ten or hundred billion dollar deals if they're valued at 500B lol. - Gold rallying to ATH every day just signals that $BTC is always a good buy, even at $123k, if it ends up becoming a hedge against inflation. It's close to 1/10th the market-cap. - $LTC still a great buy because of ETF approval. There's the government shutdown so people just forgot it hasn't happened yet, but should get approved eventually. - $VIRT great buy at $32.5, I'd cost average around this range (sorry if you bought calls at $36, my positions are down 35% or so). But again it's an asymmetrical hedge to VIX (VIX IV very high for hedging, VIRT is undervalued ~6.3 forward p/e with buybacks an low IV), so even if positions are down, your other stocks should go up to balance it out. - Still looking into other beneficiaries of buildouts from energy stocks, small caps like $EOSE, memory like $MU, etc. that followers recommended. I try not to talk about something much until I'm informed myself. - If you're on leverage or going long, now is the time to do it until January. 3x rate cut, market probably frontrunning Oct rate cut now.
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交易对英伟达系利空，对AMD等供应链其他环节利好。
@yield_addicted 关于这笔交易，我认为总体偏负面：$NVDA、$CRWV（以英伟达为中心）。 总体偏正面（几乎其他所有标的）：$AMD、NBIS、CIFR、IREN、TSM 等。 护城河叙事逻辑发生变化，导致下跌 2.5% 是合理的。
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@yield_addicted For the deal, I'd say net negative: $NVDA, $CRWV (Nvda centric) Net positive (almost everything else): $AMD, NBIS, CIFR, IREN, TSM, etc. The 2.5% drop makes sense off moat narrative changes.
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建议不做IREN和WULF认股权证，看好CSP合作，IV高因预期交易。
@__visionxry__ 我可能不会做 $IREN 和 $WULF 的认股权证(CC)。另一方面，云服务提供商(CSP)对 IREN 来说是很好的。这些标的的隐含波动率(IV)极高是有原因的，因为人们预计交易随时会公布。
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@__visionxry__ I probably wouldn't do CC's on $IREN and $WULF. CSP's are great on the other hand for IREN. IV is extremely high for a reason on stuff because people are expecting a deal to come anytime.
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建议普通投资者长期持有高确信度股票并卖出备兑看涨期权。
@NoahIAvest 这是给日内交易者/波段交易者+期权卖方用于底部/顶部择时的。如果你是普通投资者，只需像持有 $IREN $CIFR 那样持有你高确信度的股票1年，并学习如何卖出备兑看涨期权(Covered Call)。例如 @DeepValueBagger。
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@NoahIAvest This is for day trader/swing traders + option sellers for bottom/top timing. If you're just a regular investor, just hold your high conviction stocks for 1y like $IREN $CIFR if those are your two, and learn to write cc on them. eg. @DeepValueBagger https://t.co/rQm3UPyeP2
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卖出CRWV获利，看好IREN/NBIS算力需求，拟重估CRWV长期价值。
我昨天以 $CRWV $122.5 买入，今天以 $138.1 卖出。纯粹是时机运气好。我还没来得及深入分析 META 的合同，但鉴于 META 和其他超大规模云服务商(hyperscalers)目前急需算力，这对 $IREN 和 $NBIS 来说是非常看涨的。虽然我卖出了，但我吃完沙拉后可能会花一两个小时研究一下合同和估值。个人而言，我一直更喜欢其他新云(neoclouds)公司而非 CRWV，主要是因为债务利息问题，但也许 META 的合同会让我重新考虑将其作为长期持有标的，我需要进一步研究。
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I had $CRWV yesterday $122.5, and sold it $138.1 today. Just got lucky with timing. I didn't have enough time to do a deep dive into the META contract yet, but just because META and other hyperscalers are looking for compute now this is insanely bullish for $IREN $NBIS. I did sell but I'll probably spend an hour or two to look into the contract + valuation after I eat some salad. Personally I've always liked the other neoclouds more than crwv just cause of debt interest, but maybe the meta contracts would make me reconsider this as a long, ill need to look into it more
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博主分享6只个股的短期交易策略，强调经验直觉胜过耐心口号。
最近 X 上流传着很多鼓舞人心的交易者心态，比如： “会有回报的。要有耐心。”全是废话。 交易者会考虑板块动量、催化剂、估值、回调、宏观、隐含波动率(IV)、期权流向等。 以下是我对各种股票短期交易的心态： 1. $NBIS - $111.91，尽管当天上涨了 1.53%，但由于 Meta 给予其 140 亿美元合同，CRWV 上涨了 12%。 这通常对所有新云厂商都是利好。它曾飙升至 $117（我可能仍会持有），但随后回落至 $111，可能是由于未平仓合约过多，但我们可能会继续看到上涨行情。因此我会利用这段时间进行定投(DCA)并买入看涨期权/股票，即使它已经上涨了 1.53%。 这不是“真正的下跌”，更像是上涨过程中的回调。 2. $HIMS - $56.4 下跌 4.67%，通常人们只是盲目抄底，但这实际上是由重大因素引起的，即特朗普推出了面向消费者的政府药品网站。随着股价升至 $60，空头比率降至 33%。 这次下跌可能会被用于空头回补。我在 $46 支撑位买入，但在反弹后不久卖出，因为我感觉它还会进一步下跌。但我个人更喜欢底部入场点，所以可能更接近 $50。 我记得 AMZN 推出竞争对手时，HIMS 暴跌 20% 然后再次上涨，我预计特朗普的计划中期也会如此，但近期它是一个逆风因素。 3. $RDDT - $228，下跌 5.45%，没有新闻。可能只是估值担忧。我们看到类似的增长股如 ALAB、CRED 有随机的 20% 回调。许多软件/社交股票如 SNAP 因非重大新闻下跌 8.1%。修正很健康，股票不会一直上涨，我个人更倾向于等待再次回到 $100+，而不是 $200+，但鉴于 RDDT 在随机日子有更大的 5-8% 回调，根据历史经验，6-7% 的下跌是日内的好买点，你可能会看到它恢复，但我们可能会看到许多增长股在 11/12 月的大涨前经历更大的修正，所以可能不是真正的底部。 我现在不看图表 RSI，只是基于过去一两年每天观察股票 + IV 的经验感觉来做。 4. AMZN - 没有重大宏观新闻，可能是 10 月 1 日的政府停摆可能会引起指数恐慌，但这没什么大不了的。它下跌了 1.35%，所以我会买入，因为这是摊低成本的好时机。 5. Klarna - $36，下跌 5.3%。有时你只是凭直觉行事。低于 IPO 价格，没有重大新闻。大多数 IPO 都下跌了，比如 Gemini 等。如果你想建立长期头寸，我会在这个水平买入。 6. TSM - $277，我有罪地进行了 $273-$279 之间的波段交易，所以我每次跌至 $273 就买入，在 $277-$279 卖出以获取 2% 的纯股票利润。到目前为止，我用股票做了大约 2 次。如果跌破 $273，我就定投，如果进一步下跌就切换到看涨期权。 没有绝对的对错方式，每个人都有自己的方法。（另外抱歉 CRM，糟糕的财报搞错了那个，如果进一步下跌我可能会摊平成本）。 但一般来说，这只是我浏览每只股票清单时的想法。再次强调，每个人想法不同，我只是想写下我的思考过程，如果对他有帮助的话。
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Lot of inspirational trader mindsets going around X lately like: "It will pay off. Be Patient". All BS. Traders consider sector momentum, catalysts, valuation, pullbacks, macro, IV, option flows, etc. Here's my mindset for short term trading for various stocks: 1. $NBIS - $111.91, even though it's up 1.53% on the day, CRWV is up 12% off Meta gives them a $14B contract. So usually it's bullish for all neoclouds. It spiked to $117 ( i probably would have still held) but pulled back to $111 likely from too much open interest, but we'll likely keep seeing a rally upward. So I'd use this time to DCA and buy calls/shares even if it's up 1.53% Not "truly a dip" but it's more of a dip during a rally. 2. $HIMS - $56.4 Down 4.67%, usually people just blindly buy the dip but this was actually caused from something material, which was Trump launching a direct to consumer GOV drug website. Short interest decreased back to 33% on the rise to $60. This dip will likely be used for short covering. I did buy $46 support but sold shortly on a bounce after I just felt like it would go down more. But I just personally prefer bottom entry points so that's probably closer to $50. I still remember AMZN launching a competitor, HIMS crashed 20% then rose again, I'd expect the same with Trump's program mid term but near term it's a headwind. 3. $RDDT - $228, down 5.45%, no news. Just probably valuation concerns. We saw similar growth stocks like ALAB, CRED, have random 20% pullbacks. Lot of software/social stocks like SNAP down 8.1% off non-material news. Correction is healthy, stocks don't just keep going up, I'd prefer to wait in the $100+ again, rather than $200+ (just personally), but it's actually a better buy than the rest, given RDDT has larger 5-8% pullbacks on random days, just from historical experiences so 6-7% drop is a good buy intra-day and you'd likely see it recover but we might see a lot of growth stocks have a larger correction into massive rally Nov/Dec so might not be an actual bottom. I don't really look at chart RSI nowadays, just do this based on feelings from experience looking at the stock + IV every day for the past year or two. 4. AMZN - No major macro news, prob government shutdown Oct 1st that might cause some panic for index but it's pretty immaterial. It dropped, 1.35% so I'd buy since it' a good time to cost average. 5. Klarna - $36, 5.3% drop. Sometimes you just go off gut feeling. Below IPO price, no major news. Most IPOs were down like Gemini, etc. If you wanted to build a long term position I'd buy at this level. 6. TSM - $277, I've been guilty of swing trading between $273-$279, so I just buy every drop to $273 and sell at $277-$279 for 2% profit purely with shares. So far I've done this ~2 times with shares. If it drops past $273, I'd just DCA and then if it drops further switch to calls. There's no True or False way to do this, everyone kind of has their own approach. (also sorry about CRM, bad earnings got that one wrong, I'll probably cost avg if ti declines further). But generally this is just what I'm thinking about when I go down the list of every single stock. Once again, everyone thinks differently, I just wanted to write down how I think if it's helpful to others.
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解释持有IREN的逻辑，认为长线持有无需纠结短期择时。
@chickvestor 我的意思是，我周五在 $40 买入的 $IREN 至今仍在持有。我个人不喜欢在单日涨幅 9.72% 后追高，所以这是基于今日的价格。我常尝试抄底，但如果持有一年，现在买入并等待 $70 也无妨。
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@chickvestor I mean I bought $IREN on Friday at $40 and still have it. Personally not a fan of buying after a 9.72% day so this is based on today's prices I try to time the bottom a lot but if you're holding for a year, doesn't matter if you buy now and wait for $70 https://t.co/ls4L5BDxgq
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博主发布周一收盘观点，列出多只美股的买卖评级及具体逻辑。
周一收盘思考： 极强买入 $NBIS $ETOR $LTC $VIRT 买入 $AMZN $SMCI $TGT $CRM $TSM $CRDO $SG $CIFR $LULU $SLNH $ORCL $MSTR $RIOT $MARA 持有 $IREN $HIMS $RKLB $PYPL $MRVL $IBIT $UPWK $GRAB $ALAB $ASTS $SOFI $NVDA $NVO 卖出 $HOOD $TSLA $RDDT $CRCL $PLTR $BMNR 强烈卖出 $OKLO $QBTS $IONQ _ 欢迎持不同意见，但这只是我的个人看法。 极强买入理由 - 买入约7万美元的Virtu看涨期权，隐含波动率28%，远期市盈率仅6.6倍，被低估。 - 在通往200美元的路上，每次回调都定投NBIS。 - ETOR在39美元时严重被低估。我不明白它怎么跌到那的。如果我没记错，市值33亿，现金储备超7亿，复利增长类似IBKR而非HOOD/BULL，但股价却直线跌破IPO价。 - LTC ETF批准在即（3-4天内），概率95%。除非被拒，现在是绝佳买点。 买入理由 - 今天买入5万美元以上Amazon看涨期权，回调至219美元以上后复苏前景看好。受益于10月至1月的年底季节性效应。10月8日Prime Day。可能再次回调，因此适合定投而非极强买入。 - SMCI仍预测55%的远期营收增长，季度营收超50亿，有点被低估。 - TGT下个月分红。有些Target事件，但我觉得不如Amazon Prime Day重要。 - CRM图表上看刚触底，基本面没太大变化。 - TSM在273美元更好，虽然总是好买点，但不像250美元以下那样极具吸引力。 - CRDO/ALAB，两者大幅回调。更像是修正而非崩盘，因此再次成为不错的买点。 - SG，不知道。我只是喜欢他们的沙拉，考虑到不久前交易价40美元，8美元的风险回报比不错。 - CIFR，GOOGL背书，现在看执行。我会逢低买入，但今天大涨了。 - LULU受益于10月至1月的年底季节性假日购物。 - SLNH，据说X上有关于波浪的讨论。市值很小约1亿美元，风险回报比似乎可以。 - ORCL，以140亿美元折扣估值持有TikTok美国大量股份，且来自OpenAI/MSFT的远期营收众多。就像AVGO一样，财报后可能回调，然后一两个月后迎来猛烈反弹。 - MSTR，比特币10月表现良好。被做空，所以溢价率可能在1.4x-1.5x，相比炒作时的2x。 - RIOT/MARA转向HPC，所以我比之前更喜欢它们。 持有股票没什么变化 - Hood，我个人做日内交易，所以如果我认为在单日上涨12.27%的130美元以上卖出是好的，别介意。 - TSLA，脱离基本面的信仰股。 - RDDT，我在100美元时持有大量，现在240美元或450亿市值不会买，所以可能会卖出/三角套利。 - CRCL，直接买Coinbase。 - PLTR，脱离基本面的信仰股，大部分利润只是利息收入。 - BMNR，如果你想买就买ETH，但ETH在4000美元以上也是强烈卖出。 强烈卖出 任何营收极少但市值100-200亿以上的股票我觉得很可笑。如果你从8美元持有OKLO到116美元，向你致敬。
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Monday Market Close Thoughts: Extremely Strong Buy $NBIS $ETOR $LTC $VIRT Buy $AMZN $SMCI $TGT $CRM $TSM $CRDO $SG $CIFR $LULU $SLNH $ORCL $MSTR $RIOT $MARA Hold $IREN $HIMS $RKLB $PYPL $MRVL $IBIT $UPWK $GRAB $ALAB $ASTS $SOFI $NVDA $NVO Sell $HOOD $TSLA $RDDT $CRCL $PLTR $BMNR Strong Sell $OKLO $QBTS $IONQ _ Feel free to disagree but these are just my thoughts Strong Buy Explanations - Bought ~$70K of Virtu calls, 28% IV and just 6.6 forward p/e is undervalued. - Always DCA NBIS on the road to $200 on every dip. -ETOR is just way too undervalued at $39 imo. I don't even know how it hit that. If I remember correctly $700M+ cash pile on a 3.3B market cap, compounding similar rate to IBKR instead of HOOD/BULL but just straight line down below IPO price. - LTC ETF approval in 3-4 days with 95% odds. Great buy now unless it gets rejected ofc. Buy Explanations - Bought $50k+ Amazon calls today, looks more promising for recovery on the dip to $219+. Benefits from end of year seasonality from Oct - > Jan. Prime Day Oct 8th. Could dip again which is why it's good to DCA and not an extremely strong buy. - SMCI still projecting 55% forward revenue growth and it's kinda undervalued doing 5B+ quarterly revenue lol - TGT dividend in another month. There's some Target event but don't really think it matters as much as Amazon prime day. - CRM just bottoming chart wise, fundamentals not really changed - TSM better at $273, it's always a good buy but not a screaming buy like sub $250 - CRDO/ALAB, both dipped a lot. More of a correction rather than crash, which is why it's a decent buy agian. - SG, idk. I just like their salad and think risk reward at $8 is good considering they were trading $40 not too long ago. - CIFR, GOOGL backstopped now just execution. I'd buy on dips but today was a big rally - LULU benefits from Oct -> Jan end of year seasonality with holiday shopping. - SLNH, apparently waves have been going around X. Pretty small $100m marketcap or so, risk reward seems okay. - ORCL, they're a large shareholder of TikTok US at a discounted 14B valuation and have tons of forward rev from OpenAI/MSFT. It's one of those things where it probably dips after earnings like AVGO then pulls off a face ripping rally a month or two later. - MSTR, Bitcoin does well in Oct. Been shorted so Nav prem is probably around 1.4x-1.5x compared to 2x like during hype waves -RIOT/MARA pivoted to HPC so I like them more than before For hold stocks nothing really changed - Hood, I personally day trade so don't be offended if I think it's a good sell $130+ on a 12.27% increase day. - TSLA, cult stock detached from fundamentals - RDDT, I had a lot back at $100 wouldn't buy at $240 or 45B marketcap now so would probably sell/tri. - CRCL, just buy Coinbase instead - PLTR, cult stock detached from fundamentals, large part of their profit is just interest income - BMNR, just buy ETH if you want but ETH is a strong sell at $4k+ Strong Sell Anything carrying barely any rev with 10-20B+ marketcap I think is amusing . Props to you if you held OKLO from $8 to $116 though.
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分享针对CIFR/IREN的周度看跌期权卖出策略及思维过程。
没问题！忘了在帖子里提到，如果你做这类交易，全是针对 $CIFR 或 $IREN 等标的的周度看跌期权(Put Option)卖出。我很少看到关于实际操作思维过程的帖子，而且我很多拥有1000万美元以上现金的前量化或分析师朋友也是这样做的。背后的思维过程有点难写清楚，但我尽力了哈哈。
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No problem! Forgot to mention in the post that it's all weeklies put option selling on stuff like $CIFR or $IREN if you're doing those. I don't really see many posts about the thought process how it's actually done and a lot of my former quant or analyst friends with $10m+ in cash do it this way too. Kinda hard to write out the thought process behind it but tried my best lol.
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看好IREN年底前达80美元，认为NBIS将翻倍。
@95jG5OcU2mL0OCK 鉴于 $IREN 和这些新云(neoclouds)的增长速度，80美元是一个极其保守的目标价。我预计 $NBIS 至少会翻倍至225美元以上，因此 IREN 很可能在年底前触及80美元。
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@95jG5OcU2mL0OCK $80 is an extremely conservative price target given how fast $IREN and these neoclouds are growing. I'd expect $NBIS at least to double to $225+ so IREN would likely hit $80 before end of year.
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博主认为 Grok 对 NBIS、IREN 和 CRWV 的分析很准。
@grok @castorastuto Grok 对 $NBIS $IREN $CRWV 的分析相当准确，哈哈。
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@grok @castorastuto grok is pretty accurate with the analysis of $NBIS $IREN $CRWV lol
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买入IREN，看好其获超大规模云服务商合同潜力。
@cronked 谢谢！回复晚了，但在下跌后我买入了一些 $IREN。它比 $NBIS、$CIFR、$WULF 更具投机性，但我预计未来会有超大规模云服务商(hyperscaler)的合同。显然 $NBIS 的非对称回报(asymmetric return)潜力最大，但拥有其他新云(neoclouds)公司也不错。
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@cronked Thanks! late reply, but I bought some $IREN after the drop. It's more speculative than $NBIS, $CIFR, $WULF, but I'd expect a hyperscaler contract down the road. Obviously $NBIS is most asymmetric return but wouldn't be bad to have other neoclouds up there too
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解析超大规模云厂商资本支出向NeoClouds转移的逻辑，看好NBIS等标的的高回报潜力。
NeoCloud 论点：超大规模云厂商资本支出漏斗 为什么我要投入 150 万美元以上到 NeoClouds（新型云服务商），以及为什么这可能带来 200-300%+ 的回报。 🔹 分类 Mag7（美股七巨头）合约方：$CRWV, $NBIS ✅, $WULF, $CIFR ✅ 带算力：$IREN ✅, $BITF 投机性：$WYFI, $GRRR ✅, $SLNH 转向 HPC（高性能计算）的矿工：$RIOT, $MARA, $CLSK, $HUT 论点： Mag7 的 AI 算力紧张，这是 $NVDA 设计使然。 原本流向 AWS、MSFT Azure、Google Cloud 用于传统算力的数万亿美元资本支出，当它们无法处理来自 Anthropic、OpenAI、Gemini 等的新 AI 负载时，现在将漏斗式流入 NeoClouds。 这是一个十年一遇的机会，类似于让 $NVDA 成为 4 万亿美元公司的 GPU 军备竞赛，关键在于未来 5-10 年为 AWS/Azure 等提供基础设施支持的是谁。 NBIS（来自 MSFT 的 170 亿）、CIFR / WULF（来自 GOOGL 的 30 亿）、CRWV（由 NVDA 背书）都在以数百百分比的速度扩张（NBIS 季度收入从 1.5 亿增长到可能超过 15 亿），且拥有 60-80% 的毛利率。 这种收入增长在历史上几乎闻所未闻。这主要是因为最富有的超大规模云厂商将资本支出漏斗式注入这些小公司。 NVDA / TSM（2022->）：为超大规模云厂商提供 GPU CRDO / ALAB（2024 ->）：超大规模云厂商获胜 -> 抛物线式增长。 NBIS/CIFR/IREN 等（2025 - ）AWS/Azure 等 -> 来自 AI 算力的抛物线式增长 这就是如何获得数百百分比回报的方法，而不是在 Paypal 上进行价值投资。动量交易下一代公司。 所以看空论点通常涉及 - 执行风险（以前更偏向投机，现在像 NBIS 这样的公司有 40 多亿资金来执行） 人们总是担心执行问题，但如果微软或谷歌没有做自己的尽职调查，是不会签署如此大的 5-10 年合约的。 - 高利率（主要看你 CRWV），这就是为什么 NBIS、CIFR 等具有惊人的回报潜力。 $NBIS 在每股 138 美元以上时有 40 多亿资金（现在是 107 美元）。$CIFR 在每股 16 美元以上时有资金（现在是 11 美元）。高于当前价格的资金是一个看涨信号。 - GPU 折旧（有效的担忧，但这几乎像石油一样，即使是旧型号也保持了价值并仍然提供权益）。 - 估值（我认为我们才刚刚开始。如果 NBIS 明年规模达到 60 亿收入，75% 毛利率），260 亿市值非常小。 - NVDA 可能推出自己的 GPU 即服务并直接竞争。目前这些 NeoClouds 是 NVDA 防止对 Azure/AWS 等集中风险的答案。 - 定制超大规模云厂商芯片如 TPU、Trainium。但可能还需要几年，因为他们仍在乞求 NVDA 算力并签署了 5-10 年合约。 无论如何，像 Nebius 这样的 NeoClouds 相对于远期收入/毛利率确实被低估了。 我们仍然处于非常早期的阶段。确保像特朗普选举时的 Crypto/TSLA 或 OpenAI 发布时的 NVDA 一样搭乘 NeoCloud 浪潮。 当然，这高度投机，我不会建议全仓 YOLO，但对于这些为 Google/MSFT 等（Mag7 的现金牛）提供 AI 工作负载的小型 5-200 亿 NeoClouds，风险与回报是值得的。（交易时间范围：8 个月 - 1 年。） 这是 2025-2026 年最好的非对称 AI 基础设施交易。
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The NeoCloud Thesis: Hyperscaler Capex Funnel Why I'm putting $1.5M+ into Neoclouds, and why this might be a 200-300%+ return. 🔹 Buckets Mag7 contracts: $CRWV, $NBIS ✅, $WULF, $CIFR ✅ With compute: $IREN ✅, $BITF Speculative: $WYFI, $GRRR ✅, $SLNH Miners pivoting to HPC: $RIOT, $MARA, $CLSK, $HUT Thesis: Mag7 is AI compute strained, by design from $NVDA. Trillions of capex that normally flowed through AWS, MSFT Azure, Google Cloud for traditional compute, will now funnel into NeoClouds when they cant handle new AI loads from Anthropic, OpenAI, Gemini, etc. This is a once-a-decade opportunity, similar to the GPU arms race that made $NVDA a $4T company, on who powers the infra for AWS/Azure/etc for the next 5-10 years. NBIS (17B from MSFT), CIFR / WULF (3B from GOOGL), CRWV (backstopped by NVDA) are all scaling hundreds of percent (NBIS went from 150M quarterly revenue to likely 1.5B+) with 60-80% gross profit margins. This revenue growth is almost unheard in history. It's mainly because it's the wealthiest hyperscalers funneling capex into tiny companies. NVDA / TSM (2022->): GPU for hyperscalers CRDO / ALAB (2024 ->): hyperscaler wins -> parabolic growth. NBIS/CIFR/IREN/etc (2025 - ) AWS/Azure/etc. -> parabolic growth from AI compute This is how you get hundreds of % in return, not value investing in Paypal. Momentum riding the next generational companies. So bear thesis usually involves around - Execution Risk (before it was more speculative, now companies like NBIS have 4B+ to execute) People can always worry about execution but Microsoft or Google would not be signing such large 5-10 year contracts without their own DD. - Large interest rates (mainly looking at you CRWV), that's why NBIS, CIFR, and others have potential amazing returns. You have 4B+ in funding for $NBIS at $138+ a share (when it's $107 now). And funding for $CIFR at $16+ a share when it's $11 now. ABOVE current price funding is a bullish tell. - GPU depreciation (valid concern but it's almost like oil, even older models kept their value and still deliver equity). - Valuation (I still think we're just getting started. If NBIS scales to 6B rev next year 75% gross margin), 26B marketcap is extremely tiny. - NVDA potentially launching their own GPU-as-a-service and directly competing. Right now these Neoclouds are NVDA's answer to preventing concentration risk to Azure/AWS/etc. - Custom hyperscaler chips like TPU, Trainium. But likely years away, since they're still begging for NVDA compute and signed 5Y-10Y contracts. Regardless these neoclouds like Nebius are really undervalued relative to forward revenue/gross margins. We're still very early. Make sure to ride the Neocloud wave like Crypto/TSLA with Trump election or NVDA with OpenAI release. Of course this is highly speculative and I wouldn't YOLO full port calls, but Risk vs. Reward on these little 5-20B neoclouds powering AI workloads for Google/MSFT/etc, the cash cows of Mag7, is worth it. (Trade time Horizon: 8m - 1 year.) This is the single best asymmetric AI infrastructure trade for 2025-2026.
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作者打破只买正股规则，在特定黑天鹅或底部信号下转向期权策略。
我在这里打破了自己关于只买正股而非看涨期权(call)的经验法则——32%的隐含波动率(IV)股票，但通常如果发生黑天鹅事件导致无关紧要的下跌，例如 $IREN 因摩根大通(JPM)糟糕的目标价下跌14%。或者 $CIFR 下跌17%后仅因 $GOOGL 的支撑而下跌5%，这时我会转向看涨期权。通常如果我认为触底了，或者认为像 $TSM $AMZN 这样的股票会在几个月内上涨，且我在定投(DCA)，且IV没有偏离32%太多且不至于糟糕，我会考虑使用期权。当然也有例外，比如 $IBIT 高IV时跳入周度备兑看涨期权(covered calls)，但那是另一种策略。不过，抄底时机极难把握。
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I broke my own rule of thumb here about shares only vs. call -> 32% IV stock but usually if something black swans off something immaterial eg. $IREN 14% drop off JPM bs price target. Or $CIFR 17% drop into 5% drop off $GOOGL backstopping it, then I switch to calls. Usually if I think it's a bottom or if I think a stock would go up like $TSM $AMZN over a few months and I'm DCA and IV isn't way off 32% and horrendous I'd consider it. There's exceptions obviously like $IBIT with higher IV leaps into weekly covered calls but that's another strategy. Bottom timing is extremely hard though
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分享今日多只股票及加密货币的短期交易与长期持仓逻辑。
除了ORCL、$NBIS、$IREN、$CIFR之外，今天这些是一些有趣的（短期）投资组合新增/交易和入场点，如果你好奇的话，附上我的一点点理由： GEMI ~$23.9 - 有趣的短期波段交易，随时波动+-~5%。不过从市值(Market Cap)来看被高估了。 AMZN ~$219.78 - 为4个月的时间框架进行定投(DCA)。 Figma ~$52.65 - 之前跌了4-5%，预计它会恢复。利润率在10亿美元营收基础上高达90%或类似的离谱数字。有趣的短期交易。 RKLB ~ $46.29 - 在$43 -> 53之间有趣的波段交易。 CRDO ~ $142.21 - 只是觉得它可能在10月反弹，定投(DCA)。 BTC ~ $109.5k - 不太在意+-5k的波动，这是为了长期持仓。 KLAR ~ $39.95 - 有趣的波段交易。 ETOR ~ $40.95 - 难以置信的低估lol。我可能会持有这东西$1M，而价格就保持不变。 当然，还在ORCL、CIFR、NBIS、IREN等股票上卖出了虚值(Out of the Money)的周权备兑看涨期权(Covered Calls)。
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Apart from ORCL, $NBIS, $IREN, $CIFR today these were some fun (short term) portfolio adds/trades and entries if you were curious + tiny bit of my reasoning: GEMI ~$23.9 - fun short term swing trade +- ~5% all the time. Overvalued though MC wise. AMZN ~$219.78 - DCA for 4 month timeframe. Figma ~$52.65 - was down like 4-5%, just expected it to recover. Profit margins are like 90% or something stupid off 1B revenue. Fun short term trade RKLB ~ $46.29 - fun swing trade between $43 -> 53. CRDO ~ $142.21 - Just thought it might rebound in Oct, DCA BTC ~ $109.5k - don't really care about +-5k too much, this is for long term positions. KLAR ~ $39.95 - fun swing trade ETOR ~ $40.95 - incredibly undervalued lol. I might end up with $1M of this thing and it will just stay the same price. And of course sold weekly covered calls on ORCL, CIFR, NBIS, IREN, etc... for way out of money strikes.
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博主调侃JP Moron对IREN的目标价。
@Umbisam 看到 JP Moron 时我笑了。对于 $IREN 的目标价来说，这是个有趣的名字。
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@Umbisam I laughed when at JP Moron. Funny name for those $IREN price targets.
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博主分享在CIFR和NBIS抄底，并小额投机IREN看涨期权。
交易还没结束！虽然价格可能还会下跌，但我喜欢在这些价位。我也发实时动态，这样大家就知道我确实在 $CIFR 和 $NBIS 上抄底。另外加了 1.5 万美元的极短期 $IREN 看涨期权，不建议大家这么做。我只是手头有点零钱。
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Trading day isn't over yet! Also prices could still go down but I like them at these levels. I post live too so people know so people know I'm actually timing the bottoms with $CIFR and $NBIS. Also added $15k in very short term $IREN calls, would not recommend this one. I just have spare change
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超成长股遭抛售，矿企因降息预期下调而过度反应。
@claudiohrios 许多超高速增长股如 $ALAB、$CRDO，以及像 $IREN（忽略摩根大通的观点）、$NBIS、$CIFR 这样的矿企股票正面临大量抛售。前两者的抛售更有道理，但三次降息概率降低 8% 真的不值得矿企出现如此剧烈的抛售。
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@claudiohrios There's quite a lot of selling on a lot of hyper growth stocks like $ALAB, $CRDO, miners like $IREN (ignore J.P. Morgan), $NBIS, $CIFR. The first two make more sense, but decreasing triple rate cut odds by 8% really doesn't deserve this selloff for miners.
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博主看好矿企风险收益比，逢低加仓CIFR期权、NBIS期权及IREN股票。
呃，我通常不做期权看涨合约，但我觉得矿企的风险收益比不错。在 $CIFR 下跌 5% 至 $11 时，我加仓了价值 $30k 的 1 月 $11 行权价看涨期权。在 $NBIS 下跌 4.6% 至 $103 时，我加仓了价值 $100k 的看涨期权，这只是其中一个行权价。在 $IREN 下跌 13% 时，我以 $40.13 的价格加仓了股票。
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Eh I normally don't do calls but risk/reward looks good to me on miners Added $CIFR $30k worth of Jan calls $11 strike on the 5% drop to $11. Added $NBIS $100k worth of calls, this was just one of the strikes on the 4.6% drop to $103. Added $IREN shares $40.13 on the 13% drop. https://t.co/OP9EYjg34h
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分享9/25市场观点、定投计划及详细投资组合权重。
9月25日的每日思考+市场下跌分析，如果你喜欢我的见解： 1. 三次降息（Triple rate cut）的概率从65%降至56%。这影响很大，因为人们正在提前交易（front-running）降息预期。无论如何，任何降息通常都会带来大量资金流入，因此对几个月后的市场总体看涨。鲍威尔关于市场估值过高的观点在某些股票上确实成立。Oklo、Quantum等严重高估，但我从不做空。甚至像RKLB这样我喜欢的股票也严重高估。但由于通胀，场外资金太多，除了股票、房地产和BTC外别无他物可持。三次降息意味着他们希望“抢椅子游戏”（musical chairs）再持续8个月。我会开始担心明年夏天。 2. 市场过去两天下跌，我会利用这个机会在$Z下跌15%后定投（DCA），或在$NBIS下跌5%后买入AMZN。我仍需研究$CIFR，因此在下跌17.5%后还不能完全有信心推荐（暂时），如果我喜欢它，我可能会隔夜买入。还有很多有趣的标的可以波段交易，比如RKLB。我仍在等待下个月TGT的六位数看涨期权收益，因为11月的股息。大家都在加载AMZN的看涨期权，但像GOOGL一样，它可能会跌至$210->$200的水平，人们放弃后开始一波愚蠢的反弹。这就是为什么我说如果跌更多就换成看涨期权。 3. 大量税务亏损收割（tax harvesting）正在进行。如果你有耐心等4个月，像ETOR、TGT、LULU这样被低估的公司可能会恢复，但显然除非你使用杠杆+期权，否则不会获得600%+的收益。对于耐心的投资者来说，现在是囤货的好时机。 4. 我一直主张在市场放弃时（例如以太坊$1600）在低位买入，而当Bitmine出现新叙事时，在$4k+卖出是好的时机。即使跌至$3.5k我也不会抄底。我对此有一个完整的论点，但留到另一天再说。这与NBIS不同，后者投机性较低，比如一个170亿美元的合同流入一家市值250亿美元的公司，这只是执行+等待的问题。仍在等待LTC，小市值，市场仍定价90%的ETF获批。几个月后LTC可能会有一个新的Bitmine，凭借小市值可以大幅反弹。 5. 我从未见过除了“ thirst traps”（诱惑照）之外，书签数超过点赞数的帖子，所以你们一定喜欢我的投资组合权重！你已经看到我在这里做日内交易：https://t.co/AjTB69Na65，但每次改变头寸都进行喊单有点烦人，所以我更喜欢只发布一般性见解+论点。 6. 市场定价的是远期收入，即使你今天看到NBIS、TSM等下跌，它们基本面很好，可能会继续上涨。
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So daily thoughts on Sept 25th + market drop if you like my insights: 1. 3x rate cut went from 65% to 56% from data today. This is a lot more material, since people are front-running rate cuts now. Either way, any rate cut usually lead to large inflows so it's generally bullish for markets months out. Powell's thoughts about market being overvalued holds kind of true for certain stocks. Oklo, Quantum, etc. way too overvalued but never short. Even stuff i love like RKLB, really overvalued. But there's too much money flowing on sidelines, nothing else to hold other than stocks, real estate, btc, because of all the inflation. Triple rate cut implies they want to keep musical chairs running for another 8 moths. I'd start to worry around Summer next year. 2. Market droplast two days, I'd use the opportunity to DCA into $Z after 15% drop, AMZN, or $NBIS after 5%. I still need to research $CIFR so can't really full conviction recommend it after a 17.5% drop (yet), if I like it I'd probably buy overnight. Lot of fun things to swing trade like RKLB on the side. I'm still waiting next month for 6 figures in TGT calls, cause of Nov dividend. Everyone's loading AMZN calls now, but like GOOGL it will might drop to levels like $210 -> $200, where people give up then start some stupid rally. That's kinda why I said shares into calls if it drops more. 3. Lot of tax harvesting taking place. If you have the patience to wait 4 months, lot of undervalued companies like ETOR, TGT, LULU, will likely recover but obviously won't net 600%+ gains unless you do leverage + options. Great time to stock up if you're a patient investor. 4. I've always maintained you should buy stuff at the lows when market gives up on it (eg. Ethereum $1600), and when there's a new narrative with Bitmine, it's a good time to sell at $4k+. I wouldn't buy the dip even if it drops to $3.5k. I have a whole thesis on this but I'll save this for another day. This is only different if it's less speculative like NBIS, like a literal $17B contract flowing into a 25B marketcap company and it's just a matter of execution + waiting. Still waiting for LTC, small marketcap, market still pricing in 90% etf approval. There's likely going to be a new BItmine for Litcoin in a few months, and with a small MC can rally quite a bit. 5. I've never seen a post get more bookmarks than likes other than thirst traps, so you all must like my portfolio weighting! You've already seen me day trade here: https://t.co/AjTB69Na65 but it's a little annoying for me to do call-outs every time I change positions so I'd prefer to just post general insights + thesis. 6. Market prices in forward revenue, even if you see stuff like NBIS, TSM and stuff dropping today, they're great fundamentally and will likely keep going up.
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批评付费喊单骗局，强调真交易者靠市场获利而非粉丝。
我在 X 上看到这个真的快疯了。真正的交易者永远是从市场本身获利，而不是从他们的粉丝身上获利。你能得到的最好建议就是 X 上免费的独立研究(DD)，或者是那些随机发帖人分享关于 $NBIS / $IREN 的内容。而不是那些 🤡 搞“第69波”XYZ $BMNR 图表分析喊单 $20 的人。
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I'm actually losing my mind seeing this on X. Real traders will always make money off the markets. Not off their followers. The best advice you will ever get is free DD on X, or posts coming from randoms dropping $NBIS / $IREN. Not 🤡 Wave 69 XYZ $BMNR charting for $20. https://t.co/fk59TOa3yN
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博主展示1000万高风险迷因组合，探讨极致收益与归零风险。
很多粉丝来自WSB（华尔街梗），没有风险过滤机制。如果我要用1000万美元为Reddit构建一个“迷因组合”以尝试最大化利润： 期权 $NBIS 3月20日 $130看涨期权 500万美元 AMZN 3月20日 $225看涨期权 200万美元 RUT 12月19日 $2400看涨期权 50万美元 2倍杠杆 $IREN 100万美元 $CIFR 100万美元 HIMS 50万美元 显然不推荐这样做，但如果我今天真的想尝试赚取1000%的收益，我会按当前价格这样操作。 如果你有1000万，好奇你会做什么风险博弈来换取豪宅还是温迪的垃圾桶。
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Lot of followers were from WSB with no risk-filter. If I had to build a meme-port for Reddit with $10m to try and maximize profit: Options $5M $NBIS Mar 20, $130 Call $2M AMZN Mar 20 $225 Call $500k RUT Dec 19 $2400 Call 2x Leverage $1M $IREN $1M $CIFR $500k HIMS Obviously not recommending this, but if I legitimately wanted to try and make 1000% I'd do this as of today's prices. If you had 10M, curious what risk-play you would do for a mansion vs. Wendys Dumpster.
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博主分享其包含NBIS等39只标的的具体投资组合权重配置。
我收到了很多关于股票权重的提问。我会构建的投资组合如下： 30% $NBIS 6% AMZN 5.5% TSM 5% BTC 5% LULU 4% UNH 4% $RKLB 4% LTC 3% ORCL 3% TGT 3% GRAB 2% $IREN 2% META 2% HOOD 2% HIMS 2% AMD 2% NVO 1.5% CRDO 1% BITF 1% ASTS 1% SG 1% UPWK 1% MP 1% FOUR 1% ETOR 1% INTC 1% COIN 1% SMCI 1% MRVL 1% DAVE .5% DLO .5% MELI .5% SNAP .5% CRWV .2% ONDS .2% NFE .2% TSSI .2% BKKT .2% GRRR
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I've been getting a lot of stock weighting questions. A portfolio I'd build would be: 30% $NBIS 6% AMZN 5.5% TSM 5% BTC 5% LULU 4% UNH 4% $RKLB 4% LTC 3% ORCL 3% TGT 3% GRAB 2% $IREN 2% META 2% HOOD 2% HIMS 2% AMD 2% NVO 1.5% CRDO 1% BITF 1% ASTS 1% SG 1% UPWK 1% MP 1% FOUR 1% ETOR 1% INTC 1% COIN 1% SMCI 1% MRVL 1% DAVE .5% DLO .5% MELI .5% SNAP .5% CRWV .2% ONDS .2% NFE .2% TSSI .2% BKKT .2% GRRR
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承认 $IREN 判断正确，但表示目前坚定看好 $NBIS。
@SCurveCapital 是的，你对 $IREN 的判断是对的，恭喜。当我们在 $12 美元持有 $UPWK 时，我买入了 1 股 $IREN，它的涨幅非常巨大。 不过我现在是坚定的 $NBIS 列车乘客（看好 $NBIS）。
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@SCurveCapital Yeah you were right about $IREN, congrats. I bought 1 share when we were holding $UPWK back at $12 and it was up an enormous amount. I'm on the $NBIS train though.
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类比Coinbase与Robinhood，看好NBIS超越CRWV，IREN暂无巨头订单
@NeuralCadence $COIN 就像 $CRWV 的等价物，为该板块的公司设定了市值标杆。 $NBIS 就像 $HOOD，拥有更健康的资产负债表、更多元化的客户群等。 我认为 $NBIS 将在一两年内超越 $CRWV，就像 $HOOD 超越 $COIN 那样。 $IREN 目前还没有与“七大科技巨头(Mag7)”的合作协议。
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@NeuralCadence $COIN is like the equivalent of $CRWV, setting the mc for companies in the sector. $NBIS is like $HOOD, better balance sheet, more diversified customers, etc. I think NBIS will overtake CRWV in a year or two like how HOOD took over COIN. $IREN doesn't have mag7 deals yet
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推荐全仓NBIS，因其风险低、估值优且增长潜力大。
@soulbiri1 说实话，$NBIS 是少数几只我会放心建议朋友全仓买入的股票之一。相比 $IREN 投机性更低，估值优于 $CRWV，未来增长潜力高于 $ALAB。
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@soulbiri1 Honestly $NBIS this is one of the only stocks I'd be fine telling a friend to full port. Less speculative than $IREN, better valuation than $CRWV, future growth higher than $ALAB.
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作者基于英伟达支持、微软大单及宏观降息，将NBIS仓位扩至百万美元，目标价225美元。
关于我将 $NBIS 仓位扩大至 100 万美元以上且目标价定为 225 美元的原因思考： 核心逻辑 ______ 当微软 (MSFT)、谷歌 (GOOGL) 和 Mag7 巨头成为你的客户时（就像 ALAB 或 CRED，我在它们股价低于 100 美元时重仓，或者在 $NVDA、AVGO 或 TSM 起飞之前），公司的未来增长可能会以百分之几百的速度爆发。 历史上几乎没有哪家公司像这样被 Mag7 巨头所依赖。 此外，当英伟达 (NVDA) 也有充分动机推高你的股价时…… NBIS 成为更强的买入标的，是我未来 1 年时间内信心最高的选择。 护城河 + 对英伟达至关重要的 GPU 租赁商 _______ 英伟达看到其他超大规模云厂商如 AMZN、GOOGL 正在构建自己的芯片并减少依赖。 对策？构建 GPU 租赁商（如 CRWV），通过持股和融资，使 Azure/Cloud/AWS 无法取代英伟达。 GPU 的获取越来越多地通过这些租赁商进行，正如我们在 OpenAI 身上看到的，他们不再拥有来自微软的算力，不得不转向谷歌。 谷歌的算力也不够，因此转向 WULF 等公司。微软转向 CRWV、NBIS 等公司，大型科技公司的算力需求向下游这些 GPU 提供商流动。 英伟达有充分理由推高 CoreWeave 和 NBIS 等 GPU 租赁商的估值，以对冲超大规模云厂商自研芯片的风险。 如果没有算力，数十亿美元将流向 NBIS，而英伟达在背后支撑他们。 宏观顺风 _______ Polymarket 已定价 3 次降息。 如果你看过我的另一篇帖子，十年才有一次的三次降息（对流入市场的流动性极其有利）+ 年底季节性因素，这对股票是积极的。 此外，NBIS 市值相对较小，且依赖融资/债务增长。当利息负担下降时，融资成本降低，扩张看起来更可行。 NBIS 的估值 heavily 基于未来收益，随着降息预期，来自微软和其他客户的数十亿美元收入预期将被上调。在昨天的美联储会议后，我们即将看到剧烈的重估。 公司对比 ________ 如果让我选择 NBIS -> CRWV -> WULF -> 其他，权衡潜力与投机性。 CRWV - 英伟达明确支持，市值已达 630 亿美元+。可能涨得更高，但考虑到 NBIS 拥有微软合同、类似的积压订单等，而市值仅为前者的一半多，这就是我选择 NBIS 的原因。 $IREN, BITF, RIOT, $GRRR 等 - 比特币矿工转型算力。我喜欢它们，但它们还没有像微软那样提供去风险化保障。 WULV - 我喜欢它们因为谷歌支持，但 NBIS 的可转债条款和相对于潜力的市值更好。 基本面 ______ 市值：247.8 亿美元（对比 CRWV 的 610 亿美元，后者今年仍下跌 30%），现在拥有类似的收入积压订单，轻松达到相同市值（每股 243 美元+）的潜力很大。 到 2026 年，计入微软交易后，NBIS 总收入可能达到 50-60 亿美元，毛利率强劲（≈70%）。 在 2027-2028 年，如果基础业务（非微软部分）也激进增长，总收入可能达到 80-100 亿美元+。所有这些都伴随着 ~60-75% 的毛利率。 这很疯狂，但主要是因为英伟达支持这些 GPU 公司。基于估值，NBIS 比 CRWV 更具吸引力，且比没有微软背书给予 170 亿美元的 IREN 等其他公司投机性更低。 杂项思考 ___ 他们已经筹集了 41 亿美元+，并为 170 亿美元的微软合同确保了资本支出。这是最大的去风险化事件，也是为什么我在 90 美元+ 投资 NBIS，而不是在 50 美元时投资更投机的标的。 可能还有其他来自超大规模云厂商的合同即将到来。我认为轻松路径是到 140 美元，然后可能因可转债转股下跌，再涨到 200 美元。 可能还有我没提到的细节，如几年后的利润率压缩、运营收入折旧风险等。 但这正是我投资决策的核心（宏观、基本面、行业增长、护城河+激励措施），与波段交易相比，这也是为什么 NBIS 是未来一年高信心标的的原因。
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Thoughts on why I’m scaling my $NBIS position to $1M+ with a $225 PT: Thesis ______ When MSFT, GOOGL, and Mag7 are your customers like ALAB or CRED (when I took large positions in both sub $100) or before $NVDA or AVGO or TSM took off, a company's forward growth would likely explode in the 100%'s of percent. There are barely any companies in history where Mag7 are dependent on them. On top of that, when NVDA has every incentive to pump your stock as well.... NBIS becomes a stronger buy and has my highest conviction for 1Y timeframe. Moat + GPU lenders Critical Importance to NVDA _______ NVDA sees other hyperscalers like AMZN, GOOGL building out their own chips and reducing reliance. Answer? Build out GPU lenders eg. CRWV, by taking a stake and financing them, so Azure/Cloud/AWS can't replace NVDA. Access to GPUs becomes increasingly through these lenders and as we see with OpenAI, they no longer have the compute from MSFT and have to go to GOOGL. GOOGL also doesn't have enough compute so they go to WULF and others. MSFT goes to CRWV, NBIS and others, and big tech compute flows downstream to these GPU providers. NVIDIA has every reason to inflate GPU lenders like CoreWeave and NBIS to hedge against hyperscaler custom chips. And without compute, billions of dollars will flow to NBIS with NVDA propping them up. Macro Tailwind _______ 3x rate cut priced into Polymarket. If you saw my other post, triple rate cuts only happen once a decade (extremely positive for liquidity flowing into markets) + combined with end of year seasonality, which are positive for equities. On top of that, NBIS is a relatively smaller market cap, and relies on financing/debt to grow. When their interest burden drops, financing gets cheaper, and expansion looks more viable. NBIS is heavily valued on future earnings, and with rate cut projections, far our earnings of billions in rev from MSFT and other clients get marked UP. We're about to see a sharp re-rating after Fed meeting yesterday. Company Comparisons ________ If I had to choose NBIS -> CRWV -> WULF ->others weighing on potential to speculation tradeoffs. CRWV - NVDA clearly backing them, already large $63B+ MC. Could go way higher but growth potential with MSFT contract with NBIS, similar backlog, etc. at more than half the marketcap is why I chose them. $IREN, BITF, RIOT, $GRRR etc. - BTC miners pivoting to compute. I like them but they don't have the same de-risking as MSFT yet. WULF - I do like them since Google is backing them but NBIS conversion terms and MC relative to potential are better. Fundamentals ______ MC: 24.78B (When you compare to CRWV at 61B, which was still down 30% this year), now with similar revenue backlog, it has an easy potential to go to the same marketcap ($243+ a share). By 2026, with Microsoft deal accounted for, NBIS could be doing $5-6B total revenue with strong gross margins (≈70%). In 2027-2028, total revenue could reach $8-10B+, especially if base business (non-Microsoft) also grows aggressively. All with ~60-75% gross margins. This is insane but mainly due to NVDA supporting these GPU companies. Based on valuation, NBIS is more attractive than CRWV and less speculative than IREN or others without MSFT backing giving them 17B. Misc Thoughts ___ They already raised 4.1B+ and secured capex for the $17B MSFT contract. This was the biggest de-risking event and why I'd invest in NBIS at $90+ compared to something more speculative back at $50. There's likely other contracts from hyperscalers coming their way. I'd say easy path to $140, then maybe drop from convertible note, then up to $200. There's probably more specifics that I didn't get to like margin compression in a few years operating income depreciation risk etc. But this was the core of my investment thesis (macro, fundamentals, industry growth, moat + incentives) when I make investment decisions vs. swing trading and why NBIS is high conviction over the next year.
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调侃持仓数量，建议长期持有RKLB对标SpaceX。
@vicecarloans $UPWK, $HOOD, $IREN，要是算上这些，我就有16、17、18只持仓了，哈哈。至于 $RKLB，就拿着它5-8年吧，总有一天市值会像 SpaceX 一样达到3500亿美元。
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@vicecarloans $UPWK, $HOOD, $IREN, and would be 16 17 18 lol. For $RKLB just hold it for 5-8 years, should be $350B market cap like SpaceX one day.
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博主寻求高确信度小盘股推荐，拟投入10万美元以上进行深度研究。
正在挖掘具有10倍以上上涨潜力且势头正劲的小盘股。如果大家对以下股票有基于理由的高确信度，我将投入10万美元以上： $APLD（市值50亿）、$CIFR（48亿，继$IREN上涨后） _ $ONDS（19.9亿）、$NVTS（13亿）、$MVST（10亿）或其他推荐 真心求问，非投资建议——只是在寻找深度研究(DD)线索
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Exploring small caps with 10x+ upside and gaining traction. Will throw $100k+ at some if people have high conviction with a reason: $APLD (5B), $CIFR (4.8B) after $IREN run _ $ONDS (1.99B), $NVTS (1.3B), $MVST (1B), or other recs Genuinely asking, not advice — just DD-hunting
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分享9月精选15只高潜力股票及理想入场点。
我9月份精选的15只由催化剂驱动的股票，按截至2025财年的潜力排序，附解释及理想入场点： 1. $NBIS - 微软(MSFT)合同超170亿美元，稀释基本完成 < $100（现价）。相比 $IREN、$WULF 或 $BTBT 我更看好这只。 2. $HIMS - 42%的做空比例。来自欧盟的新增客户超120万。若有意外消息可能涨至$100 < $45 3. $LTC - ETF即将推出 + LTC储备 < $120（现价） 4. $RKLB - 中子号火箭将于2026年初发射 < $42 5. $TSM (看涨期权) - 市值持续增长至1.8万亿+，资本支出惊人。< $265（现价） 6. $ETOR - 随着 $HOOD、$IBKR 等金融科技股起飞，该股被低估。在当前价位下，我首选它而非 $DLO 或 $DAVE < $48（现价） 7. $LULU - 受假日消费提振，短期反弹至年底，超卖状态 < $165（现价） 7. $MRVL - 健康的45-55%同比增长，财报后遭不公平惩罚 < $70（现价） 8. $SG - 值得投资以博取反弹。去年股价$45。 < $9（现价） 9. $TSSI - 服务器机架（如 $SMCI、$DELL）正在追赶AI热潮的其余部分。 < $13.5 10. $ASTS - 像 $OPEN 一样的“邪教”级股票 < $38.5 11. $CRDO - 追赶 $ALAB 至380亿美元市值 < $125 12. $RUM - Charlie Kirk及保守派人士有望推动平台参与度至年底。 < $7.25 13. $AMZN (看涨期权) - AWS... 跟随 $ORCL 及其他数据中心财报表现 < $215 14. $SMCI - 2026年远期营收330亿美元。市值240亿美元哈哈。只要一份好财报就能起飞。$45（现价） 15. $IBIT (1年期LEAPS) - 鉴于美元超发，纯比特币敞口。不要 $MSTR 或 $BMNR，只要纯资产ETF < $112.5k 我还有什么遗漏的吗？
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My top 15 catalyst driven stocks from September sorted by potential to FY 2025, explanation, and ideal entry points: 1. $NBIS - 17B+ MSFT contract, dilution mostly finished < $100 (now). I like this over $IREN, $WULF, or $BTBT 2. $HIMS - 42% Short interest. 1.2M+ customers coming in from EU. Could up to $100 on surprise news < $45 3. $LTC - ETF launch soon + LTC reserves < $120 (now) 4. $RKLB - Neutron Launch early 2026 < $42 5. $TSM (calls)- Keep growing to 1.8T+ MC, capex spend insane.< $265 (now) 6. $ETOR - Undervalued with fintechl ike $HOOD $IBKR taking off. I'd prefer this over $DLO or $DAVE at current prices < $48 (now) 7. $LULU - Short term bounce to year end from holiday consumer spending, oversold < $165 (now) 7. $MRVL - Healthy 45-55% Y/Y, unfairly punished after earnings < $70 (now) 8. $SG - Worth the investment for bounceback. $45 last year. < $9 (now) 9. $TSSI - Server racks like $SMCI, $DELL catching up to rest of AI boom. < $13.5 10. $ASTS - Cult like stock like $OPEN < $38.5 11. $CRDO - Catchup to $ALAB at $38B MC < $125 12. $RUM - Charlie Kirk + conservatives likely to drive engagement to platform EOY. < $7.25 13. $AMZN (calls)- AWS... Follow $ORCL and other datacenter earnings < $215 14. $SMCI - 33B forward revenue 2026. 24B market cap lol. One good earnings and it pops off. $45 (now) 15. $IBIT (1Y leaps) - Pure BTC given USD printing. No $MSTR or $BMNR, just pure asset ETF < $112.5k Anything else I'm missing?
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看好NBIS回调买入，认为HIMS短期潜力最大。
我高确信度的股票不多，但 $NBIS 在 90 美元时是其中之一。任何回调都是强力买入机会。 一家拥有如此多远期营收的公司市值仅为 210 亿美元，这简直不可思议。$IREN 也很棒，但目前更具投机性且需要稀释。 不过 $HIMS 在未来 3 个月内的潜力最大，空头比率(SI)高达 42%。https://t.co/Mg9ZN12rRV
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I don’t have many high conviction stocks but $NBIS is one at $90. Strong Buy on any dip 21B MC for a company with so much forward rev is insane. $IREN is great as well but more speculative atm + needs dilution $HIMS has the most potential though over the next 3m from 42% SI. https://t.co/Mg9ZN12rRV
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建议买入垄断且低估的台积电，因其他AI股均依赖其代工。
如果你在纠结 $ORCL 对比 $AMZN | $GOOGL，$AMD | $AVGO 对比 $NVDA，$NBIS 对比 $IREN 对比 $WYFI 对比 $CRWV 这很简单。直接买入 $TSM，上述所有公司都依赖于它。 估值偏低且拥有垄断地位，基于未来增长 + 边缘推理(Edge Inference)的资本支出，市值有望从 1.3 万亿美元 -> 1.8 万亿美元。
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If you're debating $ORCL vs. $AMZN | $GOOGL, $AMD | $AVGO vs. $NVDA, $NBIS vs. $IREN vs. $WYFI vs. $CRWV It's easy. Just buy $TSM, everything above is dependent on it. Undervalued and a monopoly, will likely run from $1.3T -> $1.8T MC based on forward growth + capex from ERs.
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博主列出下月基于潜力最看好的五只股票及买入逻辑。
如果我要根据潜力在下个月买入5样东西： 1. $HIMS - 42%的做空比例(SI)，新产品/降息催化剂+120万欧盟客户。逼空不可避免，只是时间问题。 2. $LTC - 抢在机构之前，为10月2日的ETF发行做准备。 3. $NBIS - 仅基于微软(MSFT)的交易，股价轻松达到100美元以上。抱歉了$IREN持有者。 4. $CRDO - 仅仅是为了追赶$ALAB的市值(MC)。 5. $HOOD - 鉴于标普(S&P)按市值加权且HOOD市值超1000亿美元，纳入标普的流入资金将大幅增加其市值。
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If I had to buy 5 things for the next month by potential: 1. $HIMS - 42% SI, new product/rate cut catalyst + 1.2M EU customers. Short squeeze inevitable, just a matter of time. 2. $LTC - Frontrun institutions for the ETF launch October 2nd. 3. $NBIS - Should easily be $100+ just based off of MSFT deal. Sorry $IREN holders. 4. $CRDO - Just to catchup $ALAB MC. 5. $HOOD - S&P inclusion flows will add a ton to the market cap given S&P is weighted by MC and hood is $100B+.
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建议持有 $TSSI 以捕捉半导体牛市红利，预期单日涨幅超 10%。
如果你正考虑在 $TSSI 上获利了结，请记住该股在稀释前曾达 $30，且目前半导体牛市势头强劲，涉及 $SMCI、$TSM、$AVGO、$IREN、$NBIS、$WYFI、$NVDA 和 $ORCL。若涨势持续，单日涨幅可能超过 10%。
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If you’re thinking about taking profits on $TSSI, just remember the stock was $30 before dilution and there’s a huge semi bull run with $SMCI, $TSM, $AVGO, $IREN, $NBIS, $WYFI, $NVDA and $ORCL. Could see it go up 10%+ a day if the run continues. https://t.co/ks67hMAi01
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降息预期推动成长股反弹，机构提前布局，年底指数或涨5-8%。
分析一下这意味着什么：短期内，这对成长股(growth stocks)非常有利，因为成长股对利率(rates)高度敏感。 像 $HOOD、$RKLB、$NBIS、$IREN、$ALAB、$CREDO 这样的许多股票将创历史新高，而 $HIMS、$CRWV、$SMCI、$MRVL、$TSSI 等股票也将恢复至历史高点(ATH)。 机构今年提前押注了“九月疲软”(September weakness)（大约在比特币达到 12.4 万美元时），因此随着降息预期叠加，股票在 9 月初再次上涨。 由于今年早些时候因关税(tariffs)和高通胀(high inflation)导致市场大幅崩盘，标普 500 指数 ETF (SPY) 的表现并未超越往年，因此我们可以看到指数在年底前再上涨 5%-8%。 17 日的降息几乎板上钉钉，所以机构正在提前布局(front-running)。散户可能认为降息当日股票会上涨，但实际消息公布后可能会导致抛售(selloff)。
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Just an analysis on what this means: short term, it's great for growth stocks = since growth stocks have high sensitivity to rates. You have a lot of stocks like $HOOD, $RKLB, $NBIS, $IREN, $ALAB, $CREDO that will hit all time highs or with $HIMS, $CRWV, $SMCI, $MRVL, $TSSI, and others, recovering to ATH. Insitutions frontran "September weakness" this year (Around the time BTC reached $124k), so stocks climbed again early SEPT due to rate cut on top of it. SPY hasn't really outperformed previous years either with the massive market crash earlier this year from tarrifs + high inflation so we can see index go up another 5%-8% by EOY. Rate cut is almost certain on the 17th, so institutions are front-running it. Retail probably thinks stocks go up on rate cut date, but the actual news might lead to a selloff.
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澄清未买IREN，建议投机性关注MARA、RIOT或WYFI。
@__visionxry__ 我从未买入 $IREN。我只是在观察比特币挖矿股票在未来几个月的潜力。 如果非要在这两只股票上进行投机性赌博，我可能会买入 $MARA / $RIOT 或 $WYFI。
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@__visionxry__ I never entered $IREN. I was just looking at potential of bitcoin mining stocks over the next few months. I'd probably buy $MARA / $RIOT or $WYFI if i had to take a speculative gamble on two though.
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UPWK启动回购，低估值高利润，无视季节性风险。
$UPWK 刚刚宣布启动 1 亿美元的股票回购计划，回购规模约占其流通股的 5%。 让我们再次重申以下几点： 1. 市值约 20 亿美元，年营收 7.73 亿美元，毛利率 77.8%。 2. 拥有巨额现金储备，盈利能力强，市盈率约 9 倍。扩张中的利润率 + 新业务收购并未反映在远期营收预期中。 如果你担心 $RKLB、$CRWV、$IREN、$HIMS、$WULF 等 9 月份的高贝塔股票，当你的市值如此低且正在“印钞”时，季节性因素就不重要了。 Upwork 可能是当前市场中被低估且利润极其丰厚的股票。
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$UPWK just announced it's buying ~5% of it's float back with a $100M repurchase program. Let's reiterate this one more time: 1. ~2B market cap, with 773M yearly revenue and 77.8% gross margins. 2. Big Cash Pile, profitable, ~9 p/e. Expanding margins + new business acquisitions not priced into forward revenue. If you're worried about $RKLB, $CRWV, $IREN, $HIMS, $WULF and other high beta stocks from September, seasonality doesn't matter if your market cap is this low and you're printing money. Upwork is probably the most undervalued and immensely profitable stocks to hold in this market.
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关注IREN，类比NBIS，看好矿企转型AI的投资机会。
在 $IREN 涨至 $30+ 后，我仍在关注它。这让我想起 $CRWV 大幅上涨后的 $NBIS。 有什么能阻止 $MARA、$RIOT、$CIFR、$CLSK、$HUT 等从比特币(BTC)转向人工智能(AI)吗？ 这可能是一个绝佳的投资机会。https://t.co/1HJSHsiPml
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Still looking @ $IREN after it's rise to $30+. Reminds me of $NBIS following $CRWV's massive rise. There's nothing stopping $MARA, $RIOT, $CIFR, $CLSK, $HUT and others from pivoting from BTC into AI right? Might be a great investment opportunity. https://t.co/1HJSHsiPml
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计划对IREN进行深入研究，初步印象良好。
@SCurveCapital 我很快会对 $IREN 进行更深入的基本面研究(DD)，我之前听过这个名字，乍一看看起来相当稳健。
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@SCurveCapital I'll do a deeper DD soon on $IREN, I've heard the name before it looks pretty solid at first glance.