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InP 磷化铟衬底
制造 CPO 用的 DFB 激光器与 EML 调制器所必需的化合物半导体衬底,全球产能极其集中,是光子学的卡脖子环节。
别名: InP/ 磷化铟/ 磷化铟衬底/ indium phosphide/ indium-phosphide/ InP 衬底
是什么
Indium Phosphide (InP, 磷化铟) 是一种 III-V 族化合物半导体,是 1310nm / 1550nm 波段激光器的物理必需材料——目前没有可替代材料。CPO 和高速光通信里所有 DFB 激光器、EML 调制器、CW 激光源 都长在 InP 衬底上。
为什么是 AI 供应链最深层的卡点
整个 CPO 上游链条:
InP 衬底 → 外延生长 (epi-wafer) → 激光器晶圆 → 激光芯片 → 光引擎 → CPO 封装
链条最上游的 InP 衬底,全球只有几家能做工业级 2-4 寸圆片:
- AXT $AXTI(美股)
- 住友电工 (Sumitomo, 日股)
- DOWA(日股)
- IntelliEPI(台股,做 epi 不做衬底)
需求端:每多一个 CPO 端口,多消耗 1-4 颗 InP 激光器。AI 数据中心放量 → CPO 放量 → InP 衬底必现产能瓶颈。
Serenity 的视角
这是他被称为”白毛股神”的第一战——2024 年就喊出”光子学放量必致 InP 衬底瓶颈”,重仓 $AXTI。一年多后,IntelliEPI CEO 在 2026Q1 财报里公开确认 “Indium phosphide substrate shortage is a bottleneck for the entire AI infrastructure”,验证他的判断。
他原话:“Did you remember my $AXTI InP substrate bottleneck call last year anon?”
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SIVE扩产InP激光器,隐含年营收潜力达6.25亿至12.5亿美元。
$SIVE 今天宣布扩大在格拉斯哥的磷化铟(InP)制造产能。新产能目标为:年产约1亿颗连续波(CW)分布反馈(DFB)激光器。按 Sivers 历史上每8激光器阵列50-100美元的定价推算,隐含的年营收产能约为6.25亿-12.5亿美元(非 https://t.co/tRg1XTFeg4
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$SIVE announced today that it is expanding InP manufacturing in Glasgow. The new capacity target is: ~100 million CW DFB laser annual production. Using Sivers’ historical $50-$100 per 8-laser array pricing, the implied revenue capacity might be ~$625M-$1.25B/year (not https://t.co/tRg1XTFeg4
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看好AAOI 2027年表现及AXTI衬底瓶颈,提示短期抛压与稀释风险。
@DZMakeMoney 我无法就人们应如何处理交易提供建议。就个人而言,我认为 $AAOI 在 2027 年将表现优异,且 $AXTI 的磷化铟(InP)衬底瓶颈/卡脖子环节已得到验证。对于 AXT 而言,更多取决于其与 $LITE 和 $COHR 等协议带来的平均售价(ASP)提升。AXT 近期因宏观因素受高贝塔 AI 板块抛售的负面影响。AOI 有一笔令人失望的 6 亿美元可转换优先股(ATM)发行,造成大量短期压力。但这不影响其 2027 年光模块(transceiver)需求可见度,且他们应很快完成 1.6T 认证。过去两个月出现大幅回调,但取决于你发现什么有吸引力,也有许多机会。
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@DZMakeMoney I can’t give advice over what people should do with their trades. Personally speaking, I think $AAOI outperforms in 2027 and the $AXTI InP substrates bottleneck/chokepoint got validated. With AXT it’s more of a matter of ASP hikes moving forward with their agreements like $LITE and $COHR. AXT is negatively affected by high beta AI sector selloff recently with macro. AOI has a very disappointing $600m ATM so that’s a lot of near term overhang. But doesn’t affect their 2027 transceiver demand visibility and they should finish 1.6T qualifications soon. Past 2 month has seen major corrections, but there’s a lot of opportunity too depending on what you find compelling
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梳理AI供应链瓶颈:内存、ABF、CPO及地缘政治动态。
一些我感兴趣的TLDR新闻摘要: 1. $GOOGL(漏看了)也联合$NVDA投资了联发科,参与其39亿美元融资。Google/Nvidia在投资眼光上真是“山羊”(顶级),从$SPCX到Anthropic都是如此。 2. 三星电机披露了7.789亿美元的MLCC(多层陶瓷电容器)订单;$CAPA(新MLCC ETF)也为无法访问韩/日/台市场的投资者提供了敞口。但关键在于,每个加速器所需的MLCC数量增加,可能预示着未来比人们预期更极端的瓶颈。 3. 中国渠道调查显示:行星滚柱丝杠、6D力传感器和灵巧手难以实现国产替代。其中行星滚柱丝杠的国产替代率最低。例如$SHA0.DE做行星滚柱丝杠。只是听听护城河挺有意思。 4. 据报道,三星约70%的内存产能已锁定至2031年/商品DRAM也陷入短缺 - 首尔经济日报。TrendForce预计2026年Q3服务器DRAM合约价环比上涨13-18%。SK海力士也公开表示内存短缺将持续至2030年。 5. $CXMT已开始小批量生产HBM3E,并据称实现了LPDDR6的大规模量产。这对传统DRAM短缺的暗示更为积极。 6. 思科在台湾SEMICON表示共封装光学(CPO)已准备好大规模部署;可插拔模块仍将是市场主流。$MRVL也表示客户正积极规划早在2027年扩大光学部署。 7. 闻泰科技 -> 收购安世半导体 -> 荷兰政府实际上剥夺了闻泰的控制权 -> 闻泰正通过中国法院反击。但安世3亿美元资产被冻结。当然还有更多地缘政治戏剧,总是很娱乐。$AAPL也明确指控OpenAI销毁关键证据...(更多乐子) 8. 关于SOI(绝缘体上硅)衬底$SOI的ASP(平均售价)上涨描述不多,但他们现在有10+客户参与LTA(长期协议),$2亿营收被称为“底线”,评论称客户更关心获得晶圆而非制造地。所以基本上随着硅光子技术在2027年起飞,现在进入产能预留阶段。 9. 一些渠道调查显示高功率MOSFET和大面积TVS二极管的交货期高达~52周。($STM据报道也在8月23日实施了2026年第三次涨价) 10. 传统封装产能可能在2027年面临超过20%的缺口,“引线键合设备”成为主要瓶颈,本周早些时候已覆盖过,受益者如... 11. 声称所有六大ABF供应商2026年订单已满,交货期12-14个月,部分供应商拍卖剩余产能;$NVDA、$AMD和超大规模客户锁定ABF产能至2028年,并推动供应商规划2029-30年扩产。像Kinsus (3189)、Unimicron (3037)、南亚PCB (8046)、Ibiden (4062)等名字大概都很开心。 12. CCL(覆铜板)主导的层压板产品再次涨价10%-20%,今年第7次涨价(如建滔)。行业估计HVLP4铜箔短缺在2026年约48%/2027年43%,而Low-Dk/T-Glass交货期已延长至30周以上。 13. “(GaAs)衬底材料和砷化镓外延源材料在2026年第三季度也面临新一轮涨价,据报道比限制初期高出5到6倍。”“中国最近放宽了一些衬底出口管制”,但据digitimes称“InP衬底严重短缺”。只是些$AXTI相关更新。 14. $AMD和$AVGO据报道预订了PowerTech计划的大部分FOPLP产能,早于2027年中大规模量产。 15. $INTC考虑使用$INTC代工生产HBM4E基底芯片。但$SKHY直接回应称“部分内容与事实不符”。 16. “OpenAI囤积数万台$AAPL Mac mini和Mac Studio”用于强化学习。Anthropic也从$AMZN租赁Mac mini单元。Tim Cook退休有点可惜,但老哥表现确实“山羊”(顶级)。只是些随机有趣的笔记。
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Just some TLDR news I found interesting: 1. $GOOGL (missed this) also invested in Mediatek alongside $NVDA for their $3.9B raise. Google/Nvidia are goats with investments you look at $SPCX to Anthropic. 2. Samsung Electro-Mechanics discloses $778.9M MLCC deal / $CAPA (new MLCC ETF) also gives exposure now for folks without Korea/Japan/Taiwan market access. But thing is more accelerators x MLCCs per accelerator might indicate a more future extreme bottleneck than people expect. 3. China channel checks state: planetary roller screws, 6D force sensors, and dexterous hands resist domestic substitution. Then planetary roller screw as the top with lowest domestic substitution rate. eg. $SHA0.DE for planetary. Just interesting to hear moats I guess. 4. Samsung reportedly has ~70% of memory production capacity committed through 2031 / commodity DRAM has also fallen into short supply - Seoul Economic Daily. TrendForce expects server DRAM contract prices to rise 13-18% QoQ in 3Q26 SK Hynix also publicly stated the memory shortage lasts through 2030. 5. $CXMT has begun producing HBM3E in small quantities and reportedly claimed mass production of LPDDR6. Implications are even more positive for legacy DRAM shortages. 6. Cisco at SEMICON Taiwan said CPO is ready for mass deployment; pluggable modules will remain the market mainstay. $MRVL also said customers are actively planning scale-up optics deployments as early as 2027 7. Wingtech -> bought Nexperia -> Netherlands effectively removed Wingtech’s control -> Wingtech is fighting back through Chinese courts. But Nexperia got $300m of their assets frozen. More geopolitical drama of course, always entertaining. $AAPl also explicitly accused OpenAI of destroying crucial evidence... (for more fun) 8. Not much description around ASP hikes regarding SOI substrates $SOI, but they now have 10+ customers involved with LTAs, $200m revenue described as a "floor", comments about customers more concerned about obtaining wafers than where they are manufactured. So basically moving into capacity reservation now stages as silicon photonics takes off in 2027. 9. Some channel checks put lead times for high power MOSFETs and large area TVS diodes as high as ~52 weeks. ($STM also reportedly implemented its 3rd 2026 price increase on August 23) 10. Traditional packaging capacity could face a deficit exceeding 20% by 2027" with "wire bonding equipment" emerging as the primary bottleneck", covered this earlier this week with beneficiaries like 11. Claims that all six major ABF suppliers are booked for 2026, with 12-14 month lead times and some suppliers auctioning remaining capacity; $NVDA, $AMD and hyperscalers locking ABF capacity through 2028 and pushing suppliers to plan 2029–30 expansions. Names like Kinsus (3189), Unimicron (3037), Nan Ya PCB (8046), Ibiden (4062), etc are all probably happy. 12. CCL leading laminated board products increased by another 10%-20%, 7th price hike this year (eg. Kingboard). Industry estimates put the HVLP4 copper-foil shortage at ~48% in 2026 / 43% in 2027, while Low-Dk/T-Glass lead times have stretched beyond 30 weeks. 13. "(GaAs) substrate materials and gallium epitaxial source materials are also facing another round of price increases in the third quarter of 2026, reportedly 5 to 6 times higher than at the early stage of the restrictions." "China has recently eased some substrate export controls" but there's a "severe InP substrate shortage" per digitimes. Just some $AXTI related updates 14. $AMD and $AVGO reportedly booked most of Powertech's planned FOPLP capacity ahead of mid-2027 mass production 15. $INTC considering $INTC foundry for HBM4E base dies. But $SKHY responded directly that "some of the content is different from the facts". 16. "OpenAI Hoarding Tens Of Thousands Of $AAPL Mac mini and Mac Studio" for reinforcement learning. Anthropic has been renting mac mini units from $AMZN as well. Kinda sad Tim Cook retired, but dude had a goated run. Just random interesting notes
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总结SIVE基本面,批评其沟通策略,看好其作为CPO激光供应商的高增长潜力。
以下是我对 $SIVE 来自 ER 的观点与基本面的最终总结: 2027年可插拔光模块(1.6T 爬坡): - $JBL(1.6T LRO,已确认)2027年上半年订单,下半年爬坡 -> -> 可能有多家超大规模云厂商客户 - 3家可插拔制造商(评估中) - 3家可插拔制造商(供应评估中) 2027年下半年至2028年+的参考设计: - $GFS(格芯)SCALE(已确认) -> -> 可能包括 $AMD 和其他超大规模云厂商作为共封装光学(CPO)客户 2027年外部光源/光引擎: - $POET(已确认) -> -> Lumilens / 超大规模云厂商终端用户 - O-Net(已确认) -> -> 超大规模云厂商+亚洲地区的巨大ODM/OEM - 可能包括 $AEVA(映射) -> -> 向光引擎供应 -> 超大规模云厂商/激光雷达 - SemiNex(已确认) 2028年光I/O: - Ayar Labs(已确认) -> -> 可能包括 $AMD、ALchip 和超大规模云厂商ASIC项目终端用户 + $NVDA NVLink - $MRVL Celestial(2023-2024年披露的潜在客户) - Lightmatter(2023-2024年披露的潜在客户) - Lightelligence(2023-2024年披露的潜在客户) 随后可能在2028年为 $AAPL 下一代可穿戴设备更新及其他来自 TFLN 与 Lightium 的项目供货。 关于产能分配: - Win Semi - 1家其他晶圆厂(拥有巨大分配量) 在磷化铟(InP)连续波(CW)DFB激光器短缺期间。 这些都是持续的发展/资格认证,因为 Sivers 正瞄准2027-2028年的下一代硅光(SiPH)+CW以及1.6T和CPO。 尤其是高盛模型显示CPO机会将从目前的近乎零增长到2028年约910亿美元的市场规模(TAM)。 然而我的批评是: => 主要焦点未向西方受众传达2027-2028年光学爬坡的经济规模。 => 应停止围绕纳斯达克上市的模糊法律帖子,并设定明确方向+更快执行。 => 过多关注于辩护较小的当前收入/过去十二个月(TTM)收入/管道转化(allspace, Tachyon),相对于未来的资格/合作伙伴规模/产能/潜力。 $SIVE 需要将自己定位为一家面向未来的、全球高增长的光学公司,为超大规模云厂商项目供应激光器。 不要让叙事被向后看的指标主导。 正如摩根士丹利所言……“关键[CPO]参与者包括……$LITE、$COHR 和 Sivers 激光供应”。 我个人是 $SIVE 的愉快股东,以高贝塔值暴露于2027-2028年的1.6T/CPO光学变革。
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Just my final recap on thoughts + fundamentals of $SIVE from ER: Pluggables (1.6T Ramp) for 2027: - $JBL (1.6T LRO, confirmed) Orders H1 2027, Ramp H2 2027 -> -> Likely multiple hyperscaler customers - 3 pluggable makers (evaluation) - 3 pluggable makers (supply assessment) Reference Design for likely H2 2027–28+: - $GFS (Globalfoundries) SCALE (confirmed)) -> -> Likely $AMD and other hyperscalers as CPO customers External Light Sources / Optical Engines for 2027: - $POET (confirmed) -> -> Lumilens / hyperscaler end users - O-Net (confirmed) -> -> Massive ODM/OEM for Hyperscalers + Asia - Likely $AEVA (mapping) -> -> supplying to OE -> hyperscalers / lidar - SemiNex (confirmed) Optical I/O for 2028: - Ayar Labs (confirmed) -> -> Likely $AMD, ALchip, and hyperscaler ASIC program end users + $NVDA NVLink - $MRVL Celestial (potential customer from 2023-2024 disclosures) - Lightmatter (potential customer from 2023-2024 disclosures) - Lightelligence (potential customer from 2023-2024 disclosures) Then potentially $AAPL for 2028 for next-generation wearable updates and other programs from TFLN with Lightium. In terms of capacity allocations: - Win Semi - 1 other foundry (with tremendous allocations) during an InP CW DFB laser shortage. These are all on-going developments/qualifications since Sivers is targeting next-generation SiPH + CW with 1.6T and CPO for 2027-2028. Especially as Goldman Sachs models the CPO opportunity going from effectively near-zero today to ~$91B TAM by 2028. However my criticisms were: => Main focus was not on communicating economic scale of 2027-2028 optical ramps to Western audiences. => Legal vagueposts around NASDAQ listing should be dropped, and clear direction should be set + executed faster on. =>Too much focus was put on defending smaller current revenue/TTM revenue/pipeline conversion (allspace, Tachyon.) relative to future qualifications/partner size/capacity/potential. $SIVE needs to position themselves as a forward looking, global hypergrowth optical company supplying lasers to hyperscaler programs. And not let the narrative get dominated by backward looking metrics. And as Morgan Stanley put it... "Key [CPO] participants include … $LITE, $COHR, and Sivers laser supply". I'm personally a happy $SIVE shareholder for high-beta exposure to the next 2027-2028 optical shift with 1.6T/CPO.
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AXTI虽证实瓶颈地位,但需极高ASP才能支撑高估值,合同细节待观察。
@he8496 $AXTI 需要将磷化铟(InP)基板的平均售价(ASP)提高到内存级别的极端水平,才能实现进一步的重估,例如达到 2000-3000 亿美元的估值。我认为瓶颈已得到证实,其卡脖子地位也已得到证实。然而,我不清楚其与 $LITE 和 $COHR 的合同或长期协议(LTA)具体包含什么内容。随着时间推移我们会看到结果(披露* 持有 AXT 股份)。
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@he8496 $AXTI would need to hike ASPs of InP substrates to extreme levels you see in memory to see further rerating eg. $20-30B valuations. I think the bottleneck is proven, their chokepoint is proven. However, I don't know what the contracts or LTAs with $LITE and $COHR entail. We'll find out over time (disclosure* own AXT shares).
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Sivers凭借激光器产能优势,在供应短缺中获大厂青睐,前景看好。
我看待 $SIVE 的角度如下: 公司/云服务提供商(CSP) 不遗余力地锁定光模块用 CW 激光器产能。 因此,Sivers 带着以下优势进入行业: - 来自 Win Semi 的大规模产能 - 来自新晶圆厂(可能自 2024 年起已进行资格认证)的“目前可用的巨大产能”,因其已合作“一段时间” 此次财报中让我兴奋的是“6 个可插拔/模块”项目(数量巨大)。 我解读的细微差别是: - $COHR 称因内部光模块需求耗尽所有产能,短期内无法对外销售 InP 激光器 - $AAOI 也表示内部消耗了激光器产能(此前并非主要独立供应商) - $LITE 受瓶颈限制,一直在公开市场购买激光器 你之前的独立供应商已将激光器产能转向内部。 因此许多大厂(如 Eoptolink/Innolight 仅为举例)可能正寻求更多激光器来源。 这也符合“具备快速资格认证和爬坡能力”的说法(这与 Series B 初创企业不符)... 很多人问为什么没有到 2030 年的长期协议(LTA)? -> 你无法随意绕过成熟玩家已完成的资格认证流程。 为何不披露客户? 正如 $MRVL + $POET 合作所示,你不能随意披露合作供应商。 但“12 亿美元机会管道”几乎翻倍,相对于 $JBL + $GFS 的增幅。这信号表明新的可插拔项目可能比 Jabil 更实质。 因此,如果 $SIVE 在供应短缺期间带来海量 CW DFB 激光器产能... 行业条件已发生重大变化,提高了项目转化率。 加上所有~估算客户 jabil, globalfoundries, poet, aeva, lightium, ayar, (可能 lightmatter, celestial, lightelligence), 6 家其他可插拔玩家等。 我认为连点成线后,Sivers 将大获成功。
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Here's the angle I'm looking at $SIVE at: Companies/CSPs have been going out of their way way to lock up any qualified CW laser capacity for optical transceivers. So now, Sivers is coming into the industry with: - Large capacity from Win Semi - "tremendous capacity that is available now" from a new foundry (likely qualifications since 2024) since it's engaged "for a while" And what excited me from this earnings was the "6 pluggable/module" engagements (which is an enormous amount). The nuance I'm reading is: - $COHR said it sees no near term ability to sell InP lasers externally because internal transceiver demand consumes all available - $AAOI said the same about consuming laser capacity internally (wasn't a major merchant supplier before though). - $LITE has been bottlenecked and been buying lasers off the open market Your previous merchant players rerouted laser capacity internally. So a lot of the bigger names (eg. Eoptolink/Innolight as just a random example) are probably looking to source more lasers. And that kinda matches the quote "capable of very rapid qualification and ramp" (which would not match Series B startup)... Lot of people are asking why aren't there LTAs to 2030 then? -> You can't just randomly escape the qualification process that established players have already completed. Why aren't the customers disclosed? And as seen with the $MRVL + $POET engagement, you can't just disclose the vendors you're working with. But the "$1.2B opportunity pipeline" almost doubled relative to the jump of $JBL + $GFS. So it's signals that the new pluggable engagements might be pretty substantial relative to Jabil. So if $SIVE comes along with enormous amounts of CW DFB laser capacity during a supply shortage... The industry conditions have changed in a major way that increases conversion rates of engagements. And with the sheer size from all your ~est. customers jabil, globalfoundries, poet, aeva, lightium, ayar, (maybe lightmatter, celestial, lightelligence), 6 other pluggable players, and others. I think Sivers is going to cook after connecting the dots.
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博主认为 $SIVE 凭借广泛的光子学客户验证和稀缺产能,是极具性价比的首选标的。
不,$SIVE 是我见过的最独特的 10 亿美元市值光子学公司。仅针对 AI 数据中心: - 为 $GFS SCALE(共封装光学(CPO)/近封装光学(NPO)/可插拔模块)提供参考激光器 - 披露了 7 项可插拔模块合作,其中 $JBL 为主要放量客户(H1 2027 时间表) - 与 O-Net 的外部激光源(ELS)路径 - 与 $POET 的 ELS 路径 - 向 Ayar 提供用于 CPO I/O 的激光器(现属 $NVDA nvlink 生态系统) - 为 $AEVA 提供激光器(其已与超大规模云厂商的光引擎供应商达成 NPO 协议) - Celestial/Lightmatter/Lightelligence(可能是 2023/2024 年的客户) - 与 Lightium 合作在薄膜铌酸锂(TFLN)上集成磷化铟(InP)激光器 此外,它在行业短缺期间拥有两项实质性的连续波分布反馈(CW DFB)激光器产能分配。也是业内少数几家 CPO 级激光器供应商之一。告诉我这个市值范围内还有哪家拥有如此多的持续资格认证、巨大的潜在市场(TAM)且身处光子学领域。就相对于行业内的资格认证路径而言,$SIVE 是我心中的第一选择。
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Nah, $SIVE is the most unusual $1B photonics company I've ever seen. Just for AI DCs alone: - Reference laser for $GFS SCALE (CPO/NPO/pluggable) - 7 pluggable engagements disclosed, with $JBL as primary ramp (with H1 2027 timeline) - ELS path with O-Net - ELS path with $POET - Lasers to Ayar for CPO I/O (now in $NVDA nvlink ecosystem) - Lasers for $AEVA (which now has NPO agreements with optical engine providers for hyperscalers) - Celestial/Lightmatter/Lightelligence (likely customers in 2023/2024) - InP lasers on TFLN with Lightium Then it has 2 substantial allocations for CW DFB laser capacity during an industry shortage. As well as one of the few CPO-grade laser suppliers out in the industry. Let me know what other player around this range has so many ongoing qualifications, a large TAM, and in photonics. $SIVE is the #1 for me in terms of MC relative to qualifications paths across the industry.
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SIVE管道增长迅速且毛利高,但受认证周期限制,短期难爆发。
@Robertff8n 管道(Pipeline)在不到一年内从4亿美元增长至7.99亿美元,再增至12亿美元,我不太明白有人为何期待更多。 其收入质量与其他公司不同,因为 $SIVE 基于磷铟(InP)激光器的长期毛利率估算为55-60%。 这与(营收更高但)毛利率仅为30%的光模块(transceiver)不同。 此外,你无法突然跳过资格认证(qualification)周期并售罄至2030年,尤其是当他们正针对2027年下半年的扩展(scale up)新架构时。
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@Robertff8n Pipeline grew to $1.2B from $799m from $400m in less than a year, not quite sure how someone expects more. The revenue quality is different than others, since $SIVE was 55-60% long term gross margins est. off InP lasers. It's not the same as 30% transceiver margins (with more revenue). Also you can't suddenly escape qualification cycles and sell out to 2030, especially when they're targeting newer architectures for scale up in H2 2027
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光模块需求极高且供应链严重短缺,认为板块跑输荒谬,看好行业前景。
非常积极。我的观点是,近期光模块板块从 $AAOI 到 $SIVE 的跑输表现简直荒谬。 需求可见性……简直高得愚蠢。 AOI:“即使合并 AOI 和 Coherent 的项目,未来三年(至2029年)仍很难满足客户需求。” Elazr 总经理:“整个光供应链正面临严重短缺。”“短缺将持续到未来几年。” Sivers CEO 对磷化铟(InP)激光器需求失衡的说法相同,预计未来3-5年持续。 关于 $LITE、$MTSI 和其他评论可以列举更多。 我们甚至还没触及 1.6T、NPO、共封装光学(CPO)规模化以及光存一体(如 SK Hynix 所示)的拐点。 然而行业已受限于 EML/CW 及 PD/TIA/DSP、收发器等上游组件,随着 CPO 规模化,FAU 等也将成为瓶颈…… 我个人对这一切的发展感到极度舒适,只是有点困惑市场为何不会算未来一两年的账。
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Very positive. My opinion is that the optical sector underperformance recently from $AAOI to $SIVE has been absurd. The demand visibility... is just way too stupidly high. AOI: “Even combined AOI, Coherent program altogether, is still very tough to meet the customer demand in the next 3 years” (2029) Elazr GM: "entire optical supply chain was facing major shortages." "The shortage will continue to the next few years" Sivers CEO said the same thing about InP laser demand imbalances expected for the next 3-5 years. Can go on and on about $LITE, $MTSI and other comments. We haven't even hit the inflection point with 1.6T, NPO, CPO scale out/up, and optics with memory (as seen with SK Hynix). Yet the industry is already bottlenecked by EML/CW and all your other upstream components from PDs/TIA/DSPs, transceivers, and soon FAU + others when CPO scales… I'm personally extremely comfortable watching this all play out, but just a little confused that markets don't know how to math a year or two ahead.
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股价下跌不消除供应链瓶颈,建议关注实质财报而非波动。
@darkseidzz 我不知道该怎么跟人们说……但如果 $SNDK 或村田(Murata) 或 $AXTI 股价下跌,NAND/MLCCs/磷化铟(InP) 的瓶颈并不会消失。 这帮人只看财报发布时的价格波动来判断好坏。 也许看看实际的财报或真正发生的事情会更好……
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@darkseidzz I’m not sure how to tell people this… but the NAND/MLCCs/InP bottleneck doesnt disappear if $SNDK or Murata or $AXTI drops in price. Same group of folks who only look at price volatility on earnings release to see if it’s good or not. Probably better to look at the actual earnings report or what’s actually happening…
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InP短缺致价格大涨,验证博主此前对供应链瓶颈及涨价的预测。
“严重的磷化铟(InP)短缺引发史上最大涨幅”——$AXTI。 供应商直言:“即使你有钱,也可能买不到材料”(哈哈)。 - 行业消息源透露,InP衬底价格从去年第四季度开始上涨,这是连续第四次衬底涨价。 - 预计最新的第四季度涨幅将超过10%。 - 同时,由这些衬底制成的外延片(epitaxial wafers)价格已上调两次,市场正走向第四季度的第三次连续涨价。(我也写过关于$IQE的论点,该公司同样受益)。 文章指出VPEC、Landmark、IET受益(以台湾为中心的报道)。 我去年就预测到了这一点……瓶颈是真实的,但我对接下来的涨价幅度有更高的预期。 很高兴它开始应验了。
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"Severe InP Shortage Triggers Largest Price Hike Ever" - $AXTI. Suppliers have bluntly stated that "even if you have the money, you still may not be able to get the material" (lol). - Industry sources revealed that InP substrate prices began rising in Q4 last year and was the fourth consecutive substrate price hike. - The latest Q4 hike is expected to be >10%, - Meanwhile, prices for epitaxial wafers made from those substrates have already been raised two times, and the market is moving toward a 3rd consecutive increase in Q4. (I also wrote a thesis on $IQE, which benefits here too). Article states VPEC, Landmark, IET benefits (Taiwan centric reporting). I did predict this last year... The bottleneck is real, but I do have higher expectations for price hikes that comes next. Glad it's starting to play out.
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IQE论点获验证,债务清零且获大厂订单,作者继续持有看多。
感觉今年2月我对 $IQE 的论点连同 $AXTI 等一起得到了验证。(我目前仍持有两者的多头头寸) 所以我减少了对它们的覆盖。但简而言之,更新如下: 今年早些时候,当我发布关于它的论点时,IQE 是光学供应链中一个陷入困境但关键的瓶颈环节,与 $LITE 等公司有关联。 自那以来: - $MTSI 签署了长期外延晶圆供应协议,并入股该公司,现在 IQE 已无银行债务(Macom 有可转债,但这是积极的) - $TSEM 签署了磷化铟(InP)外延晶圆协议。 - 管理层明确表示,其与 IQE 的协议是为了确保“该路线图所需的战略性 III-V 族外延晶圆供应” - IQE 签署了另一份约1400万美元的神秘 AI 数据中心合同。 我早期论点中仍在展开的部分是 IQE 将其潜在/未充分利用的产能转向 AI 数据中心领域,以匹配该领域的同行如 Landmark(这需要时间,如果我没记错的话,略多于一年的时间)。 还有一些国家安全层面的含义,我将避免谈论,但这使它们更加重要。 但基本上: 2025财年营收:9730万英镑 2026财年指引:超过1.265亿英镑 它们在光学领域再次快速增长,摆脱了银行债务/困境清算状态,并仍然是西方光学供应链中的关键瓶颈。 现在……随着与领先光子学公司的新协议带来营收增长,以及像 Macom 这样的玩家充当软性后盾。 通常在论点得到验证后,我只是坐享企业的增长。
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Feels like my $IQE thesis Feb this year got validated alongside $AXTI and others. (I still long on both) So I stopped covering them as much. But TLDR on updates: Early this year, IQE was a distressed but critical chokepoint in the optical supply chain with links to $LITE and others when I published my thesis on it. Since then: - $MTSI signed long term epiwafer supply agreements, took a stake in the company, now IQE is bank debt free (Macom has convertibles, but that's positive) - $TSEM signed agreements for InP epiwafers. - Management explicitly said its IQE agreement was signed to secure the "strategic III-V epiwafer supply required for that roadmap" - IQE signed another ~$14M mysterious AI DC contract. The only part that's still playing out with my earlier thesis is IQE converting their latent/underutilized capacity toward AI DC segment, to match peers like Landmark in the space (which takes time, like slightly over a year if I remember correctly). There's some national security implications that I'll avoid talking about that makes them more important. But basically: FY2025 revenue: £97.3m FY2026 guidance: over £126.5m They're rapidly growing again in the optical sector, out of bank debt/distressed liquidation state, and remains a critical chokepoint in Western optical supply chains. Now... with new agreements with your leading photonics companies for revenue growth, and players like Macom serving as a soft backstop. After a thesis gets validated, typically I just sit back and enjoy growth of a business.
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吐槽光学领域缩写繁多,新粉丝可能感到困惑。
是我一个人觉得吗,还是说这三个字母的光学行话真的没完没了? 我们有LPO、LRO、NPO、XPO、CPO、OBO等作为技术路线。 然后还有InP、EML、ELS、OCS、SOI等一堆随机术语。 甚至连OCP或OFC这样的行业会议都有三个字母的缩写。 那些跟随我进行$SOI或$IQE光学瓶颈寻宝之旅的人,现在可能已经懂很多了。 但新粉丝会不会超级困惑……
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Is it just me, or is the list of 3 letter optical jargon never ending? We have LPO, LRO, NPO, XPO, CPO, OBO, and others for approaches. Then InP, EML, ELS, OCS, SOI, and others to add to the random terms. Even the industry events with OCP or OFC get their three letter names. People who have followed me on my optical bottleneck scavenger hunt with $SOI or $IQE might know a lot by now. But wouldn’t new followers might be super confused…
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COHR财报揭示InP激光器产能紧缺,CPO需求提前,收入高增。
我的主要观点是:商用连续波(CW)激光器供应商现在显得极其重要。 但 $COHR 财报的 TLDR(太长不看版)是: “鉴于我们在数据中心业务中看到的收发器需求,我认为在可预见的未来,我们都不会对外销售磷化铟(InP)激光器。” - 如果 $AAOI 无法为第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署提供足够产能,且 $COHR 不对外销售,那么那些对外销售 InP 激光器的公司将获得更高的估值。 我想这就是为什么 $MTSI 表示大量客户正迫切地向他们寻求 InP CW DFB 激光器(而他们直到 2027 年底才没有有意义的产能上线)。 $AAOI -> 内部自用 $COHR -> 内部自用 买家 -> 寻找产能的选择更少。 “我们的积压订单现已延伸至 2027 财年,基本上已完全预订。我们实际上已预订至 2027 日历年末。” [巨大的需求可见性] - Coherent 还提到了跨越至本十年末的长期协议(LTA)。这在一定程度上印证了 $POET CEO 在其年度股东大会上所说的“三大巨头”未来两年已完全售罄。 “我们目前在组装和测试产能方面并不受限。我们真正受限的是磷化铟生产的爬坡。” - 对于那些关注瓶颈的兄弟们来说,组装/测试并不是瓶颈。 “CPO 需求绝对没有推迟。事实上,情况恰恰相反。我们看到了需求增加,客户的要求被提前。” “我们继续预计来自规模化应用的 CPO 收入将从 2027 年日历年下半年开始流入。” - 如果 $LITE 和 $COHR 确认 CPO 规模化收入将在 2027 年下半年到来,这对其他 CPO 参与者来说是一个巨大的利好传导。 - “到 2027 财年末,季度收入超过 30 亿美元” - $COHR 收入飞速增长 所以常规数据如下: - 收入 20.46 亿美元(环比 +13.3%,同比 +33.8%),主要收入增长看起来发生在进入 Q4 至 2027 年期间 - 非公认会计准则毛利率:40.2% 下一季度指引为: - 收入:22-24 亿美元 - 非公认会计准则毛利率:39.5-41.5% 基本上: 16.9 亿 -> 18.1 亿 -> 20.5 亿 -> ~23.0 亿 -> 30 亿(2027 财年末) ~39% -> 39.6% -> 40.2% -> ~40.5%(毛利率) 对于营业利润率: 18.0% -> 19.5% -> 19.9% -> 20.3% -> 21.8% 与 $LITE 的利润率增长相比,我对盈利能力的印象稍逊一筹,但 $COHR 的收入规模正在快速增长。
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My main takeaway was that your merchant CW laser suppliers seem to be EXTREMELY IMPORTANT now. But TLDR of $COHR earnings: "given the demand that we see in our DC business with transceivers, I don’t see any time in the near future where we would be selling indium phosphide lasers externally" - Ton more value placed on companies that sell InP lasers externally if $AAOI can't doesn't enough capacity for first gen-CPO deployments, $COHR not selling externally... I guess that's why $MTSI said a ton of customers are approaching them with urgency for InP CW DFB lasers (and they dont even have meaningful capacity coming online until EOY 2027) $AAOI -> Internal $COHR -> Internal Buyers -> fewer places to look for capacity. "Our backlog now extends out, fiscal 2027 is basically completely booked out. We are booked really through the end of calendar 2027" [ Massive massive demand visibility] - Coherent also mentioned LTAs spanning end of decade. So this kinda reinforces what $POET CEO said at their AGM that the "big 3" are fully sold out next 2 years. "we’re not constrained in the assembly and test capacity right now. We’re really just constrained by the ramp of the indium phosphide production" - Just for the bottleneck bros in terms of assembly/test not a bottleneck. "absolutely no push-out of CPO demand. In fact, it has been the opposite. We have seen demand increase and request from customers’ demand getting pulled in" "we continue to expect revenue from CPO for scale-up applications to start to flow in the second half of calendar 2027" - Big read through on other CPO players for scale up if $LITE, $COHR reaffirm revenue from CPO scale up coming h2027. - "quarterly revenue exceeding $3 billion by the end of fiscal 2027" - $COHR revenue go brrr So for regular numbers it's: - $2.046B revenue (+13.3% Q/Q, +33.8% Y/Y), main revenue ramp looks to be happening entering Q4 into 2027 - Non-GAAP gross margins: 40.2% Next quarter guide is: - Revenue: $2.2–$2.4B revenue - Non-GAAP gross margins: 39.5-41.5% Basically: $1.69B -> $1.81B -> $2.05B -> ~$2.30B -> $3.0B (end of FY 2027) ~39% -> 39.6% -> 40.2% -> ~40.5% (gross margins) For operating margins: 18.0% -> 19.5% -> 19.9% -> 20.3% -> 21.8% Little less impressed compared to $LITE margin growth in terms of profitability, but revenue scale for $COHR growing rapidly.
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光通信财报验证CW激光器瓶颈,SIVE作为稀缺CPO标的获看好。
这就是我目前看到的关于 $SIVE 和连续波(Continuous Wave, CW)分布反馈(DFB)激光器瓶颈的情况。 来自光通信板块的财报: 1. $LITE:UHP CW 激光器出现意外需求和供需失衡。 - 有能力提高激光器的平均售价(ASP)。 - 共封装光学(CPO)扩产按计划进行,预计2027年下半年出货,称任何关于CPO扩产延迟的谣言都是噪音。 Lumentum 确认了时间表(此前 Sivers 因误导性报告被抛售),高利润率,以及经过认证的CW激光器需求极度旺盛。 2. $AAOI:由于光模块需求过大,CW 激光器产能不足。 - 并未实质性参与第一代 CPO 部署,$MTSI 看起来也不在其中,专注于非平面光学(NPO)。在 $SMTC 收购 HieFo 后,我没看到太多动静。 - 称激光器是光模块20-40%需求失衡中的瓶颈。 - 称客户每周都来找他们要求供货并加快进度。 AOI 确认了需求失衡 + 激光器瓶颈。第一代 CPO 玩家池子更小。 3. $AAOI 和 $LITE 均称中国玩家在 CPO 激光器方面落后数年,且实际认证产能远落后于其声称。 - $AAOI 称落后2-3年以上。 - $LITE 称未见到如中方声称那样的产出(若虚假也无追责手段)。 重申了 CPO 相关激光器的护城河,光通信板块并未如某些空头声称的那样被中国产品淹没。 4. $MTSI 称许多客户因磷化铟(InP) DFB 激光器普遍短缺而紧急接触他们。 再次将 Sivers 置于该瓶颈中,使其可能获得更多客户需求。 在 $COHR ($725.4亿市值)、$LITE ($665.7亿市值)、$AVGO ($2.13万亿市值) 中: 能以约 $15亿市值获得西方四大 CPO 领导者之一的 $SIVE,非常特别。 感觉我的论点得到了验证: - 我预测的 CW 瓶颈 - CW 激光器瓶颈(至少对于第一代而言,只有少数 CPO 玩家) 现在只需等待下一代光架构转变的拐点。
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So this is just what I'm seeing with $SIVE and the CW DFB laser chokepoint right now. From optical earnings: 1. $LITE: unexpected demand and imbalance for UHP CW lasers. - Had ability to price up ASP for lasers. - Scale up CPO on track for H2 2027 shipments, called out any CPO scale up delay rumors as noise. Lumentum confirmed timelines (that CPO players like Sivers sold off of misleading reports from), high margins, and extreme demand for qualified CW lasers. 2. $AAOI: doesn’t have enough CW laser capacity because of too much optical transceiver demand. - Not meaningfully participating in first-gen CPO deployments, with $MTSI not looking like they're in it either but focusing on NPO. Haven't seen much with $SMTC after their HieFo acqusition. - Called lasers as the bottleneck within a 20-40% demand imbalance for transceivers. - Says customers approaching them every week asking them for supply + to move faster. AOI confirmed demand imbalances + bottlenecks for lasers. And we got an even smaller pool for first-gen CPO players. 3. Both $AAOI and $LITE claimed Chinese players were years behind for CPO lasers and far behind stated claims in qualified capacity. - $AAOI said 2-3 years+ behind with CPO lasers. - $LITE said they haven't seen anything like Chinese claims in terms of outputs (and no recourse if it's false). Reaffirms moat for CPO related lasers, and no flooding from some shortseller claims on the optical sector. 4. $MTSI said that many customers are approaching them with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers. Again, puts Sivers in the that bottleneck, giving them likely more customer demand . Among $COHR ($72.54B), $LITE ($66.57B), $AVGO ($2.13T): It's very special you get one of the public 4 Western CPO leaders at a ~$1.5B MC with $SIVE. Feels like my thesis with both: - The CW bottleneck that I predicted - CW laser chokepoint (where there's only a few CPO players, at least for gen-1) Got validated from earnings, now it's just waiting for the inflection points of next optical architecture shifts.
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LITE财报证实CPO 27H2放量,CW激光供需失衡且中国厂商落后。
$LITE 财报电话会要点: - “我们对共封装光学(CPO)规模化部署的时间表可见度已提高。我们确信,2027年下半年我们的超高功率激光芯片需求将强劲增长。” Lumentum 确认其领先客户将于 2027 年下半年启动 CPO 规模化放量。 - “我们最近获得了首个外部光源(ELS)模块订单,将于 2027 年下半年交付。” ELS 行业放量时间表。 - “非平面光学(NPO)机会对我们完全是增量,显著增加了光学市场的总规模(TAM)。” 激光瓶颈俱乐部的 TAM 进一步扩大。 - “我们预计 1.6T 光模块的采用将从财年第一季度开始加速,并持续至 2027 年。” - “即使在连续波(CW)激光领域,我们对自己提价的能力也感到惊讶。” $SIVE 及其他 CW 激光玩家拥有积极的定价权。 - “因此,我们能够获得可观的价格溢价,并预计这种溢价将维持下去,即使这些中国厂商上线。我也提醒人们,我认为一些中国激光供应商目前并未在市场上实际交付,所以当它们抛出那些大数字时,没有追索权。迄今为止,我们在其产出方面尚未看到类似情况。” 中国厂商在激光/产能方面落后于市场预期,得到 $AAOI 和 $LITE 的证实。 - “不幸的是,我们在高功率激光的发货上远远落后。” “需求信号增加,相对于我们的供应能力,我们更加落后。” 超高功率(UHP) CW 激光产能存在极端供需失衡,EML 需求持续失衡。年底发货约 +5000 万美元 -> 1 亿美元+(“三位数季度”),进入 2027 年下半年和 2028 年更大的规模化需求。 - “所以,我认为过去三个月我们真正试图做的是确保更多的衬底供应”(因为供需失衡),“我们从 $AXTI 找到了额外的衬底帮助。他们是伟大的合作伙伴。” 磷化铟(InP)衬底瓶颈出现。 要点总结: - Lumentum 确认 CPO 2027 年下半年放量,驳斥任何“延迟”新闻为市场“噪音”。(一份延迟报告造成了巨大损害,Nvidia、Lumentum 等公司花了数周进行危机公关)。 - CW 激光需求在 2027 年下半年放量。 - 超高功率 CW 激光产能的极端供需失衡让 Lumentum 感到惊讶。 - 超高功率激光拥有极高利润率,并能对 CW 激光产能提价。 - 中国在激光/产能方面进一步落后。 基本上验证了西方 CW 激光玩家的时间表 + 需求/定价。 在主要放量开始之前,CW 激光的稀缺性已经发生……
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$LITE earnings transcript TLDRs: - "Our visibility into the timing of CPO scale-up deployments has also sharpened. We remain confident in a demand ramp for our ultra-high-power laser chips in the second half of calendar 2027" H2 2027 start of CPO scale up ramp confirmed from Lumentum for their lead customer. - "We were recently given our first external light source, or ELS, module purchase for delivery by the second half of calendar 2027" ELS industry ramp timelines - "The NPO opportunity is completely additive for us, significantly increasing the optical TAM." More TAM for laser chokepoint club - "we expect the 1.6T transceiver uptake to intensify starting in fiscal Q1 and sustain through calendar 2027." - "Even in CW, we’ve been surprised at our ability to price up" Positive pricing power for $SIVE and the other CW laser players. - "As a result, we are able to command a nice price premium that we expect to sustain, as these Chinese if these Chinese guys come online. I caution people also, I think people are some of these Chinese laser suppliers are not delivering in the market today, so they have there is no recourse when they throw out these big numbers. We have not seen anything like that to date in terms of their output." Chinese players are more behind than markets expect, corroborated by $AAOI and $LITE. - "We are way behind in our shipments, unfortunately, on high-powered lasers" "The demand signal has increased, and we are very much further behind relative to our ability to supply." Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity, continued demand imbalance for EML. Shipping roughly +$50M year end -> $100m+ ("triple digit quarter") into much larger H2 2027 and 2028 scale up demand,. - "So what we are trying to do, I think, really in the last three months is secure even more substrate supply" (because of demand imbalance), "we found additional substrate help from $AXTI They are a great partner." Hello InP substrate bottleneck. TLDR: - Lumentum CPO scale up H2 2027 shipments got confirmed, dismissed any "delay" news as market "noise". (one delay report caused so much damage, and it took Nvidia, Lumentum, and all these companies weeks to do damage control). - CW lasers demand ramp second half of 2027 - Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity surprised Lumentum - UHP lasers commands very high margins and is able to price up CW laser capacity. - China further behind in the laser/capacity angle. Basically just validated timelines + demand/pricing for Western CW laser players. CW laser scarcity is already happening before the main volume ramp even begins...
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InP激光器短缺利好SIVE,可套用AAOI产能模型。
我认为现在是重新审视 $SIVE 的时机,其年化产能收入的中位预测约为 4.27 亿美元。 鉴于近期的行业财报: > $AAOI 指出光模块(transceivers)需求存在 20-40% 的失衡(激光器是瓶颈)。 > $MTSI 表示许多“客户因磷化铟(InP)DFB 激光器普遍短缺而紧急联系我们”(在其他产品线中)。 > 美国提议禁止新的中国光模块(中际旭创/新易盛)。 > AOI 因激光器被分配给光模块,未实质性参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署。 解读是:可以将适用于 $AAOI 的产能-需求吸收模型,同样应用于 Sivers 等其他激光器厂商。 鉴于 InP CW DFB 产能的广泛短缺和需求失衡。
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I think it’s a good time to revisit $SIVE ~$427m/yr midpoint capacity revenue modeled projections. Given recent industry earnings: > $AAOI cited +20-40% demand imbalance for transceivers (with lasers as the bottleneck). > $MTSI saying many "Customers are coming to us with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers" (in other product lines) > US proposal ban on new Chinese optical transceivers (Innolight/Eoptolink) > AOI no meaningful participation in first-gen CPO deployments due to lasers being allocated toward transceivers. The read through is that it’s possible to apply the same capacity-demand absorption modeling applying to $AAOI, but for other laser players like Sivers too. Given the widespread shortage and demand imbalance for InP CW DFB capacity.
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博主维持对 Win 看多,看好其 InP 激光器及硅光代工在瓶颈期的增长潜力。
@sunmingjun4 是的,我仍然对 Win (Win Semiconductors) 保持看多。在瓶颈期,他们正在上线磷化铟(InP)激光器的稀有独立产能(源自 Sivers),以及可能面向 AI 数据中心的硅光(PiC)晶圆代工服务(来自演示文稿)。我猜测其光学晶圆代工业务可能会在 2027 年起推动令人惊喜的收入增长。
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@sunmingjun4 Yep, I'm still bullish on Win. They're coming online with rare independent capacity for InP lasers (we know from Sivers) and maybe PiC foundry services (presentation slides) for AI DCs, during a time of a bottleneck. And my guess is its optical foundry might drive surprising revenue growth 2027 onward.
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市场在瓶颈间轮动,基本面未变仅估值波动,建议理性看待。
是的,我依然看好存储芯片,如 $MU / 三星。正如我之前所说,市场倾向于在瓶颈之间轮动。本周看来,光子学领域从 $AXTI 到 $LITE 再次成为焦点。关键在于……主要变化的是股价,随后辅以一些叙事和零星更新。对于光子学:> 在7月的下跌中,我们已经知道 $COHR / $LITE 的激光器已完全售罄,未来两年无货。> 我们从上季度财报电话会中已知 $AAOI 的需求失衡。7月崩盘期间,除了清算后的挂牌价外,基本面没有任何恶化。然而,当 $AAOI 跌至 $75 或 $AXTI 跌至 $35 时,许多人称其为“骗局”……但当它们涨回 $140 或 $80 时,人们又看多了,尽管光模块/磷化铟(InP)衬底瓶颈未变,甚至可能更糟(例如美国拟禁止中国新光模块,需求预测上调)。对于存储:我目睹大量散户投降,但这些人一个月前在 $MU 签署16份SCA并给出卓越指引时曾极度看多。或曾庆祝三星拥有全球最高营业利润。这里有一些更新,例如 Rubin Ultra 的存储优化(Nvidia每代都在追求),价格不再极端高于预期。但在当前价格下,营业利润相对于市值简直荒谬,尤其是存储成为结构性需求。明年的需求失衡应该更严重。人们倾向于在板块下跌时投降并跟随叙事(例如伊朗战争期间的氦气/LNG),即使瓶颈或基本面未变(例如 $SPCX Elon 财报电话会重申存储紧张)。我不能告诉别人该做什么:但 $140 的 $AAOI 和 $75 的 $AAOI 是同一家公司。市值 $1.5T 的三星和 $980B 的三星是同一家公司。只是估值和叙事(通常是噪音)在变,市场在板块间轮动。
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Yes, I'm still bullish on memory like $MU / Samsung. As I said earlier, markets tend to rotate from bottleneck to bottleneck. This week it looks $AXTI to $LITE in the photonics sector is the focus again. The thing is... the primary thing that changed are the stock prices, followed by some narratives + updates sprinkled in here and there. For photonics: > We already knew $COHR / $LITE lasers were completely sold out for the next 2 years during July's drop. > We knew about demand imbalance from $AAOI from last quarter's earnings calls. Nothing deteriorated fundamentally during July's crash, other than listed price after liquidations. Yet tons of people called $AAOI a "scam" when it dropped to $75, or $AXTI a "scam" on its drop to $35... But are bullish again at $140 or $80, when the transciver/InP substrate bottleneck hasn't changed at all, but maybe even got worse... (eg. draft for US ban on new china optical transceivers, scale up demand projections) For Memory: I'm witnessing a lot of retail capitulation, but the same people I'm seeing were mega bullish after $MU signed 16 SCAs and gave exceptional projections a month ago. Or were celebrating Samsung having the highest operating profit in the world. There's updates here and there eg. Rubin Ultra with memory optimizations (which Nvidia strives for every generation), with prices no longer being hiked way above expectations to the extreme. But the operating income relative to MC is just absurd around current prices, especially memory becomes structural. And the demand imbalance should be even worse next year. People tend to capitulate and follow narratives when a sector drops (eg. Helium/LNG back in Iran war), even if the bottleneck or fundamental situation hasn't really changed much (eg. $SPCX Elon earnings call reiterating memory tightness). I can't tell others what to to do: But $AAOI at $140 and $AAOI at $75 are the same company. Samsung at a $1.5T MC and Samsung at a $980B MC are the same company. Just valuations and narratives (often noise) change, and markets rotate from sector to sector.
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激光器及InP衬底未来2-3年或现短缺,CPO扩产加剧瓶颈。
@SL2056 @Sofigoodboy 好问题!这是逐年变化的,很难从2026年预测到2030年的短缺,但这绝对是一个结构性的多年需求周期。 我想指出的是,激光器(lasers)在特定领域很可能在未来2-3年面临极端短缺,尤其是在共封装光学(CPO)规模化初期至少如此。 例如,CPO激光器市场所需的产能“比今天大8到10倍”,并补充说:“我认为……完全没影响,因为需求远大于全球产能。” 至于磷化铟(InP)衬底,$AAOI 表示2027年没问题,但由于其关键性希望组建合资企业。 $AXTI 看起来只是逐年倍增产能,具体取决于你问谁。 一些台湾外延片(epiwafer)厂商称InP衬底面临极端短缺,而它们正是激光器厂商的上游。 你的激光器厂商如 $AAOI 和 $MTSI 表示他们没问题。 无论如何,我们看到这转化为 $AXTI 的收入拐点(2027年约1.3亿美元/季度),但我预计鉴于其市场地位,平均售价(ASP)一路上涨。
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@SL2056 @Sofigoodboy Good question! This something year-by-year, can't really predict shortages into 2030 from 2026, but it's definitely a structural multi-year demand cycle. Something that I want to flag is that it looks like lasers in specific would likely have extreme shortages for the next 2-3 years, especially during CPO scale up at the very least. eg. CPO laser market would require capacity "8 to 10x bigger compared to today," and added, "I think… no effect at all because the demand is much bigger than the worldwide capacity." As for InP substrates, $AAOI said they were fine for 2027 calendar year but wanted to form JVs because of likely how critical they are since. $AXTI looked like they were just multiplying capacity year after year and depends on who you ask.. Some of the Taiwan epiwafer players say it's extreme shortages for InP substrates, when they feed into your laser players. Your laser players like $AAOI and $MTSI say they're fine. Regardless, we see that convert into revenue inflection points with AXTI anyway (~$130m/quarter in 2027), but I'm expecting ASP to be hiked along the way given their positioning.
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博主重申看多AXTI,认为InP衬底供需失衡及瓶颈论点已获验证。
@KhalidIshaq85 @00m00oo 我字面上和法律上都不能给你们建议。 我个人持有并仍然看多 $AXTI,因为我认为在未来2-3年内,磷化铟(InP)衬底的需求失衡状况不会消失。 我的磷化铟(InP)衬底瓶颈论点+AI建设破坏性影响,在今年中期从路透社到其他外延晶圆(epiwafer)财报电话会议中得到了验证。 你们随意。
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@KhalidIshaq85 @00m00oo I literally and legally can't give you advice. I'm personally long and still bullish on $AXTI since I don't think InP substrate demand imbalance will be going anywhere over the next 2-3 years. And my InP substrate bottleneck thesis + AI buildout disruption got validated midway through the year from Reuters to other epiwafer earnings calls. You do you
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AAOI财报揭示CPO激光器产能瓶颈,利好少数西方厂商,中国技术落后数年。
哇,$AAOI 的财报中对于 $SIVE 及其他激光器玩家来说,利好一个接一个。 1. $AAOI 并未实质性参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署。 “我们根本无法生产足够的[CPO激光器]来参与他们当前的一代[CPO]部署,因为产能根本不够。我们必须优先保障自有光模块的激光器供应。” 因此,第一代CPO激光器的部署范围可能会进一步缩小,仅限于$SIVE、$LITE、$AVGO和$COHR等西方厂商。 如果$AAOI不得不拒绝更多客户,独立的CPO连续波(CW)激光器产能将变得更有价值。 还要记得Trendforce曾提到$AMD签署了CW长期协议(LTA)?$COHR/$LITE已与$NVDA签署了产能协议…… 我原以为是$AAOI,但他们可能出局了。$MTSI在早期CPO参与中也不显眼(除了NPO外财报未提及,且从Ayar网站移除)。 所以我在想$AMD在Helios项目中会与谁合作(例如Sivers+Ayar现在更可能是候选者)? 顺便说一句,这对$AAOI并非看空,因为他们光模块业务需求旺盛。只是对少数有产能的合格CPO激光器厂商更加看多。 2. 磷化铟(InP)激光器/光模块的需求失衡与瓶颈。 AOI CEO的话某种程度上证实了这一点:“客户需求比扩建后的产能高出20%-40%。” “我们几乎每周都从几家大客户那里收到这种需求。激光器目前是光模块业务最大的瓶颈。” 3. 中国在CPO波分复用(DWDM)规格激光器方面落后数年。 我之前在渠道调研CPO竞争时曾覆盖过这一点。 但$AAOI确认中国“至少落后两三年甚至更久”才能拥有CPO激光器,这极大地印证了西方激光器在CPO激光器卡脖子环节上的防御性地位。 总结: - CW激光器和光模块需求严重失衡。 - $AAOI因产能限制未进入第一代CPO(对$AAOI不算看空,因其光模块需求旺盛,但对$SIVE等少数有产能的独立厂商更是利好)。 - 中国在CPO激光器方面落后数年。
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Wow, there's gem after gem in $AAOI earnings for $SIVE + other laser player readthrough. 1. AAOI not meaningfully participating in CPO first-gen deployments. "We just can’t make enough of them [CPO lasers] to be involved in their current first-generation [CPO] deployments because there’s just not enough capacity. We have to prioritize our ability to make lasers for our own transceivers first" So first-gen CPO laser deployments, might even be narrowed down further for Western players like $SIVE, $LITE, $AVGO, and $COHR. And independent CPO CW laser capacity became more valuable if $AAOI had to turn away more customers... Also remember Trendforce was talking about $AMD singing CW LTAs? $COHR / $LITE have capacity signed with $NVDA ... I thought it would be $AAOI, but they might be out of the equation. $MTSI also doesn't look meaningful with early CPO participation (eg. no mention in ER aside from NPO, and removal from Ayar website). So I wonder who players like $AMD is going to go with for Helios (eg. Sivers + Ayar more likely candidate now)? Btw, this is not bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for optical transceiver business. Just more bullish on the existing few qualified CPO laser names that have capacity. 2. Demand imbalance and bottleneck for InP lasers / optical transceivers. AOI's CEO stated kinda supported that when they said: "The customer demand is 20%-40% higher" than expanded built out capacity. "We are getting this kind of demand from several big customers almost every week. Lasers are the biggest bottleneck right now for the transceiver business" 3. China being years away from having CPO DWDM specification lasers. I covered this earlier when looking at CPO competition from channel checks. But AAOI confirming that China is "easily at least two, three years or even longer from having CPO lasers is incredible tread through on defensibility Western laser positioning in the CPO laser chokepoint. TLDR: - High demand imbalance for CW lasers and optical transceivers. - $AAOI not in first-gen CPO due to capacity constraints (not exactly bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for their optical transciver business, but even better news for the few independent players with capacity coming online like $SIVE) - China years behind in CPO lasers.
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MTSI财报证实磷化铟DFB激光器短缺,利好SIVE和LITE。
$MTSI 财报电话会议记录: “由于磷化铟分布反馈(DFB)激光器普遍供应短缺,客户正迫切地向我们寻求解决方案。” 重点在于“迫切”、“连续波(CW) DFB激光器”以及“向我们寻求”。 像 $SIVE 和 $LITE 这样的连续波 DFB 概念股,听到这一激光器瓶颈得到验证应该会很高兴。
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$MTSI earnings transcript: "Customers are coming to us with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers" Emphasis on "Urgency", CW "DFB lasers", "coming to us". CW DFB names, such as like $SIVE and $LITE should be happy to hear about this laser bottleneck getting validated.
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InP激光器产能严重不足,看好新增独立产能标的。
@_king142 $LITE 首席执行官表示,即使其 5 座磷化铟(InP)激光器晶圆厂投产,出货量仍将低于客户需求 30% 以上。(甚至比当前的内存短缺更严重) $AAOI 也表达了类似的观点,缺口在 20-40% 之间。 我猜测 InP 衬底和激光器都将成为 2027 年最严重的瓶颈之一。 这就是为什么我非常看重任何新增的独立产能,无论是 $SIVE 与 Win 的合作还是 $AAOI。
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@_king142 $LITE CEO said even as their 5 InP laser fabs come online, shipments would be 30%+ below customer demand. (and worse than the current memory shortage) $AAOI said something similiar with a 20-40% figure. My guess is that InP substrates and lasers both will be one of the most severe bottlenecks in 2027. Which is why I place a lot of value on any independent capacity that comes online whether it's $SIVE with Win or $AAOI.
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AAOI财报验证光模块需求远超供应,产能爬坡中,看好板块传导。
以下是关于 $AAOI 财报的简要要点: - 预计超大规模客户将在未来几周内完成 1.6T 产品的全面认证(有助于收入爬坡 #2,时间线) - 继续认为 AOI 将拥有美国最大的 AI 数据中心光收发器产能(在竞争对手可能被禁时期重申雄心) - 预计磷化铟(InP)产能设施将于 2027 年初投产(进一步爬坡的时间线参考) - 总产能接近每月 20 万颗/单位,年底 800G/1.6T 达 65 万颗/单位。2027 年底达 93 万颗/单位(这是我想要看到的爬坡) - “增加外部光源(ELSFP)的制造产能。这是用于共封装光学(CPO)的”。我们预计今年晚些时候及 2027 年扩大生产,最终在 2028 年达到每月约 40 万件(需要时间将其建模为收入) - “如前所述,我们多年来一直内部制造激光器。这使我们避免了影响行业其他公司的短缺”(CW/EML 激光器短缺期间的垂直整合看多逻辑) - 我们相信未来 CPO 将继续推动对高功率激光器的需求增加(CPO 板块论点验证) - “长期目标是将非公认会计准则毛利率恢复到 40% 左右” - “第二季度末现金等价物总计 5.088 亿美元” 我需要再次确认 ATM 是否完成 - “我们交付收入的能力,特别是 800G 产品,目前受限于我们的生产能力”“如果我们能生产更多,我们现在就能发货更多” 需求 > 供应验证。 - “大部分增加的产能将在美国。即便如此,让我说,正如我一直强调的,这还不足以应对客户需求。客户需求高出 20%-40%。” 整个板块的光子学需求验证惊人,阅读 $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL 等公司的传导效应令人惊叹。 - “在未来两三年内不会,尤其是需求如此之大。好吧?即使结合 AI,$LITE, $COHR, $AVGO 加在一起,未来几年满足客户需求仍然非常困难” 更多光通信板块需求验证。 - CPO 时间线:“如果你说的是 CPO 市场的高产量制造商,我会说是明年第三季度末左右”以及“我们已与至少五家客户密切合作” 如果你关心当前财报(我并没有仔细看) 营收:1.91 亿美元 vs 1.90 亿美元 每股收益:0.06 美元 vs 0.02 美元 简而言之:激光器 + 光通信板块需求传导非凡。某种程度上支持 Lumentum CEO 关于激光器短缺比内存短缺更严重的说法。 2027 年产能爬坡按计划进行。要映射拐点期与时间线,大约在明年年初,正如他们之前的财报电话会议所述。 AAOI 现在拥有客户。限制在于制造足够的激光器和收发器。
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Just some TLDR notes on $AAOI earnings: - Expects full qualification of 1.6T products by their hyperscaler customer within next couple of weeks (helpful revenue ramp #2, timelines) - Continues to believe that AOI will have the largest AI DC transceiver production capacity in the US (reiterating ambitions during a time when their competitors might get banned) - Expects facilities toward InP capacity to come online in early 2027 (timeline FYI in terms of further ramp) - Total capacity is approaching 200,000/u per month, EOY 650,000/u per month of 800g/1.6t. EOY 2027, 930,000/u (this is the ramp i want to see) - "increase our manufacturing capacity for our external light source or ELSFP. That's for co-packaged optics or CPO". we anticipate ramping production later this year and into 2027, ultimately culminating in about 400,000 pieces per month in 2028 (need some time to model this into revenue) - "As we have mentioned before, we've been manufacturing lasers internally for many years. This has allowed us to avoid some of the shortages that have affected others in the industry" (vertical integration bull case during CW/EML laser shortages) - We believe that in the future, CPO will continue to drive increased demand for high-power lasers (thesis validation on CPO sector) - "to our long-term objective of returning non-GAAP gross margins to around 40%" - "We ended the second quarter with $508.8 million in total cash equivalents" I need to double check if the ATM finished or not - "our ability to deliver revenue in general, and specifically when it comes to 800G products, is limited by our production capacity right now" "If we could produce more, we could ship more right now" Demand > Supply validation. - "Most of the increased capacity will be in U.S. Even so, let me say that, like I keep emphasizing, that is not good enough for the customer demand. The customer demand is 20%-40% higher." Unholy photonics demand validation across the whole sector, read through for $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL, and others is amazing. - "Not in the next two, three years, especially the demand is so big. Okay? Even combined AI, $LITE, $COHR, $AVGO all together, it's still very tough to meet the customer demand in the next few years" More optical sector demand validation. - CPO Timelines: "If you're talking about really high volume manufacturer [for CPO market], I would say more like the late Q3 next year" and "We have been working very close with at least five customer" If you care about current earnings (which I'm not really looking at closely) Revenue: $191M vs. $190m EPS: $.06 vs. $.02 TLDR: Extraordinary demand across the laser + optical sector read through. Kinda supporting Lumentum CEO statement that laser shortage is worse than memory shortages. 2027 capacity ramp on track. To map inflection period with timelines, would be around early next year, as stated in their previous earnings call. AAOI has the customers now. Limitation is making enough lasers and transceivers.
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AI激光器供应危机加剧,验证AAOI等标的瓶颈逻辑。
$LITE CEO Michael Hurlston 在 RAISE 峰会上警告称,AI 数据中心(AI DCs)用磷化铟(InP)激光器的供应缺口: 正面临比存储芯片更严重的供应链危机。 凭借 Lumentum 的 5 座 InP 晶圆厂,其出货量将比客户需求低 30% 以上。 这在目前的电吸收调制激光器(EMLs)上尤为明显,但随着共封装光学(CPO)的推进,已扩展至连续波(CW)激光器。 我一直看好 $AAOI、$SIVE、$LITE 和 $COHR 带来的激光器卡脖子+瓶颈逻辑。很高兴这一论点开始得到验证。
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$LITE CEO Michael Hurlston at the RAISE Summit warned that the supply gap for InP lasers for AI DCs: Is facing a more severe supply chain crisis than memory. And with Lumentum's 5 InP fabs, shipments would be more than 30%+ below customer demand. This is especially visible with EMLs today but is already expanding to CW, especially as CPO ramps. I've always been a fan of the laser chokepoint + bottleneck from $AAOI, $SIVE, $LITE, and $COHR. And glad this thesis is starting to see validation.
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博主分享近期因财报或市场波动对多只AI供应链个股的加仓操作及资金调配逻辑。
@RockyKh49376975 嗯,我个人在40多美元时加仓了$AMKR,因为我认为在$NVDA 15亿美元交易+$TSM 10年协议后,财报后跌这么多令人惊讶。不过它更多是2028年的标的,尽管2027年有独立的爬坡计划。- 在Foci跌至400时做了成本平均($TSM COUPE共封装光学+ $NVDA的主要FAU供应商,其他财报如$FORM显示COUPE现在开始爬坡)。财报后也加仓了一些$XFAB,因为他们验证了CPO共封装光学+800V曝光,不过可能需要等待一段时间。在13 EU末日暴跌时加仓了$LPK,GCS不会消失,我认为由于Absolics延迟,出货量爬坡仅推迟了一个季度,我愿意等3个月。CoPoS、三星等应该在2027年推动更多需求。在OE Solutions跌至约14,000韩元时加仓,认为韩国领先的EML公司且拥有独立InP晶圆厂市值仅约1.1亿美元很奇怪。- Win Semi等名字对我非常有吸引力,但可惜没有足够资金在不使用高杠杆的情况下加仓。可能想逐步建仓$SIVE和$AAOI,因为那是我的两个最爱。鉴于Unitree IPO还有3周左右,正在关注$CCXI的机会,该上市应该像$SPCX的光环效应一样提振人形机器人板块。TLDR:只是资金调配,我个人的风险管理。标的与之前相同。
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@RockyKh49376975 Hmm, I personally added $AMKR in the $40's since I thought it was surprising it dropped that much after ER, even after $NVDA $1.5B deal + $TSM 10Y agreement. It's more of a 2028 name though, though they have separate ramps in 2027. - Did some cost averaging on names like Foci on drop to 400 (leading FAU supplier to $TSM COUPE + $NVDA, COUPE shows signs of ramp now from other ERs like $FORM). Added some $XFAB too after earnings since they verified CPO + 800V exposure, might be a bit of waiting though. Added $LPK on the 13 EU doomdrop, GCS isn't going anywhere, think volume ramp just got delayed a quarter because of Absolics delay and I'm fine waiting 3 months. CoPoS, Samsung, and others should drive demand more in 2027. And added OE Solutions on drop to ~14,000 KRW, thought it was strange Korea's leading EML company with independent InP fabs was only worth ~$110M MC. - Names like Win Semi + others are really really compelling to me but just dont have enough capital to add sadly without going on heavy margin. Probably want to scale into $SIVE and $AAOI more since those are my two favorites. And looking at $CCXI opportunities given Unitree IPO is around 3 weeks, that listing should boost humanoid/robotics sector a bit similar to the $SPCX halo effect. TLDR: Just moving capital around, my own personal risk management. Same names as before.
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四大云厂商上调Capex指引,看好上游半导体及AI供应链瓶颈环节重估。
作为业绩复盘:$AMZN、$META、$GOOGL 和 $MSFT 将 2026 年联合资本支出(Capex)指引上调至约 7200-7450 亿美元。此前指引为 6950-7250 亿美元。亚马逊:2200 亿;谷歌:1950-2050 亿;Meta:1300-1450 亿;微软:1750 亿。我们已看到显著的降杠杆和零售/机构保证金清算(可能还会持续,谁知道呢)。但中长期来看,我不太明白为何有人看空上游半导体或新云厂商。鉴于每家超大规模云服务商都指出了算力短缺、云需求上升+定价权增强,或增加芯片/网络支出。我对许多上游半导体供应链的“瓶颈”论点是:当数万亿美元资本流入磷化铟(InP)衬底或存储(此前均被视为廉价大宗商品)甚至能源领域时。许多此前在电信周期中被视为无用甚至“卖马桶”的当前 AI 概念股。当拐点到来且资本支出流入其资产负债表时,估值将重估。正如过去几年 $NVDA GPU、今年存储、未来几年 CPU/MLCC、2027 年共封装光学(CPO)、2027 年玻璃衬底、2027 年 800V 等所见。
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As a earnings recap: $AMZN, $META, $GOOGL, and $MSFT guided a 2026 combined capex forecast to ~$720-$745 Billion. Up from $695-$725B Billion previously. Amazon: $220B Google: $195B-$205B Meta: $130B-$145B Microsoft: $175B We've already seen significant deleveraging and retail/institutional margin liquidations (maybe it continues for more time, who knows). But medium-long term, I'm not quite sure how anyone can be bearish the upstream semis or neoclouds. Given each hyperscaler has flagged either compute shortages, rising cloud demand + pricing power, or increased spending for chips/networking. My "bottleneck" thesis with many of these upstream semi supply chains is that when trillions in capital flows into things from InP substrates or memory (which were both treated as cheap commodities) or even energy. Lot of these current AI names that were treated as useless before in telecom cycles or even toilet sellers. Gets rerated when their inflection period hits and capex flows into their balance sheets. As seen with $NVDA GPUs past few years, memory this year, CPUs/MLCCs next few years, CPO in 2027, Glass Substrates in 2027, 800V in 2027, and so on.
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亚马逊资本支出上调及算力短缺证实,AXTI 产能扩张且供不应求,看多 AI 半导体及光通信供应链。
几条财报摘要,重点是我看好的 $AXTI 和 $AMZN: 亚马逊: - 将 2026 年资本支出上调至 2200 亿美元(此前为 2000 亿美元),部分原因是内存成本上升,这对 $MU 和三星是利好。 - 即使达到 2200 亿美元,亚马逊的产能仍无法满足 2026 年的所有需求;Jassy 预计 2027 年情况相同。 - 大多数 2027 年的新增产能已被预订,2028 年的大量产能也已预订。 主要浏览了上游半导体板块。$GOOGL、$META、$AMZN 和 $MSFT 均指出算力短缺。 几周前关于 Meta 等公司“算力过剩”以及超大规模云厂商削减支出的所有叙事……全是胡扯。 亚马逊财报对 AI 半导体交易非常看多。 AXTI: - AXT 计划在 2026 年将磷化铟(InP)产能翻倍,2027 年再翻倍。 - 预计这将使 AXT 成为“迄今为止全球最大的磷化铟生产商”——冲鸭。 - 第二季度营收为 4760 万美元,创 AXT 历史单季新高(来自数据中心应用的 InP 营收创纪录达 3070 万美元)。 - 营收环比增长 77%,同比增长 164%。 - InP 营收-产能目标:2026 年底每季度 6000 万美元。 - 2027 年底每季度 1.3 亿美元。 由于管理层表示他们将“寻找任何方式增加产能扩张”,1.3 亿美元的目标可能会进一步提高。 管理层称报告中的积压订单仍远高于 1 亿美元,但该数字已不能反映所有可用需求。 “无论我们增加产能的速度多快,客户需求持续超过供应。” 800G/1.6T 正在驱动当前周期,而 NPO/CPO 将其延伸至 2027 年之后。 此外,他们的目标是 50% 以上的毛利率:“我们绝对应该瞄准一个以五开头的数字。” 中国需求翻倍有余,且与 Casela、$COHR 和 $LITE 的协议并未实质性推动第二季度业绩。 这甚至还没有考虑我预测的随着 InP 衬底瓶颈加剧带来的巨大平均售价(ASP)上涨。 摘要: - 亚马逊算力需求过大,需要资本支出来满足,因此上游半导体起飞。 - AXT 是全球最大的 InP 衬底供应商,高毛利率,产能扩张,且供应跟不上需求。 看多来自亚马逊的需求端+资本支出。看多上游光通信供应链,因为需求过大。
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Few earnings TLDRs with my favorite $AXTI and $AMZN: Amazon: - Raised 2026 capex to $220B vs. prior $200B (partly due to higher memory costs, which is bullish on $MU to Samsung) - Even at $220B, Amazon will not have enough capacity to meet all 2026 demand; Jassy expects the same in 2027. - Most incoming 2027 capacity is already reserved, with substantial 2028 capacity also reserved. Mostly read through on upstream semis. $GOOGL, $META, $AMZN, and $MSFT all identified compute shortage. All the narratives a few weeks earlier was "excess compute" from Meta and others + hyperscalers cutting back on spend... All BS. Amazon earnings was very bullish on AI semi trade. AXTI: - AXT to double InP capacity during 2026. Then double again in 2027. This is expected to make AXT "by far the largest indium phosphide producer in the world." - LFG - Q2 rev was $47.6M, the highest quarterly revenue in AXT history (InP revenue reached a record $30.7M, from DC applications.) - Revenue increased 77% sequentially and 164% year over year. - InP revenue-capacity targets: $60M per quarter exiting 2026. - $130M per quarter exiting 2027 That $130m target could be hiked too since management stated they find "whatever ways to increase that capacity expansion" - Management said the reported backlog remains well above $100M, but that number no longer reflects all available demand. "Customer demand continues to outpace supply, no matter how fast we add capacity." 800G/1.6T is driving the current cycle, while NPO/CPO extends it beyond 2027. Also they're targeting 50%-plus gross margin: "We should definitely be targeting a number that begins with a five." China demand more than doubled, and their agreements with Casela, $COHR and $LITE did not materially drive Q2. This is not even considering my projected massive ASP hikes yet as InP substrates get more bottlenecked. TLDR: - Amazon too much compute demands, needs capex to fufill it, so upstream semis go brrr. - AXT world largest InP substrate supplier, high gross margins, expansion, and supply can't keep up with demand. Bullish on demand side from Amazon + capex. Bullish on upstream optical supply chains from too much demand.
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AXTI与Lumentum签InP衬底长协,Lumentum付4350万定金预留产能。
$AXTI 与 $LITE 就磷化铟(InP)衬底签署长期协议。Lumentum 同意支付 4350 万美元定金以预留产能。https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa
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$AXTI enters long term agreement with $LITE for InP substrates. Lumentum has agreed to pay a deposit of $43.5M as a reservation for capacity. https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa