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博主坦言对采用率细节不熟，难以评估对POET等竞对的影响。
@NicolaRussoIT 我对采用率的具体细节不太熟悉，虽然浏览过 $ANET、$XPO 和 $MSA 的资料（我知道 $MSFT 是最公开表示支持的）……所以很难对 $POET 等其他参与者的影响给出很好的回答。https://t.co/Xi6zrmo5ha
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@NicolaRussoIT Not as familiar with adoption read through with $ANET XPO MSA (ik $MSFT has been the most openly supportive).. so can't really give a good answer to implications on other players like $POET. https://t.co/Xi6zrmo5ha
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光模块供需失衡且产能售罄，预计LITE财报强劲并作为行业风向标。
@00m00oo 我认为从 $AAOI 的财报中我们已经得到了太多关于光模块(Optical Transceivers)需求存在20-40%失衡以及激光器(Lasers)成为瓶颈的暗示。 而且 $POET 在其年度股东大会(AGM)上表示，未来两年三大云厂商的产能已完全售罄。 我通常不做财报涨跌预测，因为那大多时候就像抛硬币一样随机。但我可以说，除非有非常意外的情况，否则大部分定价调整在财报发布前就已经发生。 无论如何，我预计 $LITE 的财报会非常强劲，我主要将其作为其他激光器厂商的参考指标(read-through)。
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@00m00oo I think we already got too many hints from $AAOI earnings about demand 20-40% imbalance for optical transivers with lasers as a bottleneck. And $POET stating big 3 are completely sold out of capacity next 2 years during their AGM. I don’t give earnings up or down predictions since it’s a coin flip most of the time. But I can say that a lot of pricing happens before earnings, unless there’s something very unexpected. Regardless I expect $LITE earnings to come out really strong, and I primary use it as a read through for your other laser players.
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看好SIVE获代工产能及上市融资，预期2027H1收入拐点。
@wannabepanacea 鉴于目前业界普遍传闻共封装光学(CPO)中的分布式反馈激光器(DFB)短缺，我其实挺好奇 $SIVE 能否获得更多晶圆代工产能分配。因为我相当确信，一旦其资格认证进入量产爬坡阶段，产品就会售罄。除此之外： > 其他财报（如 $MTSI / $AAOI）重申的需求/供应失衡有助于佐证这一点。 > 上一份财报中提到的与可插拔(Pluggable)玩家的新进展/资格认证，可能是影响最大的因素。 > 与 $JBL、~ $AEVA、$POET、$GFS 或其他机会的进展，如果能获得初步采购订单(PO)那就太好了。 > 重申纳斯达克上市更新（我们已经得到消息，计划在未来几个季度完成）。我个人仍将此列为优先事项，因为它能为其并购(M&A)活动解锁更多资金，希望用于可插拔技术栈。 我认为收入拐点大约在 2027 年上半年开始，因此当前的收入/利润数据并不重要。 如果 $AAOI 能发表类似“我们制造的任何东西都预计在 2028 年售罄”的声明，那就太棒了。
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@wannabepanacea I’m actually kinda curious about $SIVE securing more foundry allocation given widespread CW DFB shortages now. Since I’m pretty confident it sells out once qualifications go into volume ramp. But aside from that > reaffirm demand/supply imbalance from other earnings like $MTSI / $AAOI helps > new development/qualifications mentioned in previous earnings with pluggable players, probably most material > Progress with $JBL, ~ $AEVA, $POET, $GFS or other opportunities, maybe initial POs would be nice. > Nasdaq listing update reiterated (we already got updates it’s planned completion next few quarters). I still place that on priority personally since it unlocks more funding for their M&A efforts, hopefully down the pluggable stack. I think the revenue inflection starts around H1 2027, so current revenue/profit numbers are not very material. An $AAOI statement like anything we make we expect to be sold in 2028 or something would be kinda goated.
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Lumilens高估值确认光互连上游POET/SIVE价值，博主加仓POET。
今天早些时候，光互连公司 Lumilens 以 55 亿美元估值“结束隐身模式”，此前已融资 7 亿美元。 正如我之前分享的 $POET / $SIVE LinkedIn OSINT 映射回顾，Lumilens 正在为一家前三超大规模云服务商客户供货。 因此，一个月后我们确认了这一点，并得知 Lumilens 拥有“数十亿美元的客户协议”。 仅供参考，$POET 与 Lumilens 有现有合同（5000 万美元采购订单，最高 5 亿美元）+ 与 $SIVE 的合同（取决于产品线）。 在阅读此新闻后，我再次在 POET 上建立了少量头寸，因为它终于让他们看到了资金极其充裕的超大规模云服务商供应商（加上 Poet 非常庞大的资产负债表）。 但简而言之： > Lumilens 估值与 Lightmatter/Ayar 相当（甚至更高），拥有超大规模云服务商客户，规模比市场预期的要大。 > 对上游 $POET（去风险化）/ $SIVE 的利好传导。 > 对光互连估值整体有利，看到一家公司在 2 年内达到 55 亿美元。
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Earlier today, optical interconnect company Lumilens "emerges from stealth" at a $5.5B valuation, after raising $700m. Just as a recap from $POET / $SIVE Linkedin OSINT mapping I shared earlier, Lumilens was supplying a top 3 hyperscaler customer. So we got confirmation of that a month later, along with the material figure that Lumilens has a "multi-billion-dollar customer agreement". And just for reference, $POET has existing contracts with Lumilens ($50m purchase order, up to $500m) + contracts with $SIVE (depending on product lines). I actually took tiny positions in POET again after reading this news, since it finally gives them visibility into extremely well funded hyperscaler suppliers (on top of Poet's really large balance sheet). But TLDR: > Lumilens around similar (or even higher) valuations as Lightmatter/Ayar, bigger than markets thought with hyperscaler customers. > nice read through upstream on $POET (derisking) / $SIVE. > Great for optical valuations in general, seeing a company go to $5.5B in 2 years.
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POET与Sivers合作加速，2027H1订单落地，验证CPO等新技术拐点临近。
仔细想想，$POET 的光学中介层（optical interposer）业务与 $SIVE 的关联比我想象的更重要。起初措辞是2026年底的“准备就绪”，但 $POET 将其升级为与 Sivers 激光器合作的“量产”，预计2026年底实现。因此，从 $JBL 到 $POET 的批量订单应在2027年上半年落地。这很合理，因为 Sivers 已完成超认购的机构轮融资以支持未来大规模生产。顺便一提，难以置信已是八月，距2027年仅剩5个月……这是我预判玻璃基板、共封装光学(CPO)、800V 及新架构开始放量的拐点窗口。
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Now that I think of it more, $POET optical interposer piece is actually a little more material than I thought with $SIVE. Originally the wording was "readiness" for EOY 2026. But $POET upgraded that wording, by stating "production" with Sivers lasers projected EOY 2026. So a volume orders from across $JBL to $POET, should hit in H1 2027. Which makes a bit of sense, since Sivers did raise an institutional oversubscribed round for future mass production. On a side note, can't believe it's already August and 5 months left until 2027... Which was my inflection window for glass substrates, CPO, 800v, and new architectures to ramp.
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POET光学中介层进展升级，Sivers从准备就绪迈向2026年底量产。
@A22GEO $POET 的光学中介层（optical interposer）部分其实是一个非常有趣的更新，并谈到了 $SIVE。因为对于 Sivers 和 Poet 来说，这是关于 2026 年底“生产”（production）的时间表措辞升级。回想 Sivers 发布新闻稿时，用的词是“生产准备就绪”（production readiness）。
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@A22GEO The $POET optical interposer piece is actually a very interesting update and talks about $SIVE. Since it's a material timeline upgrade wording for "production" EOY 2026, for Sivers + Poet. Back when Sivers did their PR it was "production readiness" https://t.co/EHkOogR39K
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博主认为当前估值极具吸引力，重申AAOI和NBIS的营收拐点预期。
@WangHou4128 我不认为我（或任何人）能准确预测底部。否则如果他们真知道，早就做每周期权了。 不过很难想象某些标的会跌得更低，比如 $AAOI 的市值已接近1倍年化远期营收。$POET 跌幅巨大，其市值约10.8亿美元，而现金就有约8亿美元。 总体而言，即使 Leopond 也认为当前估值极具吸引力，所以他正在募资买入下跌。不过谁说得准呢？ 但从中长期来看，就我个人的投资逻辑而言，我预计一旦营收预测兑现为盈利，行情就会展开。 我重申 $AAOI 的营收拐点在2027年上半年末……$NBIS 的营收拐点在2026年第四季度，等等，这是我的个人估算。 当然，在此之前会有大量波动。
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@WangHou4128 I don't think I (or anyone else) can accurately call the bottom. Otherwise they would just do weekly options if they knew. It's hard to see some of the names drop any lower though, like $AAOI is close to 1x annualized fwd revenue/MC. $POET dropped so much that it's roughly ~$800m cash to $1.08B MC. In general, even Leopond finds current valuations extremely attractive, so he's raising more to buy the drop. Who knows though? But medium-long term, for my own thesis, I expect them to play out once revenue projections hit earnings. I've reiterated end of H1 2027 for $AAOI in terms of revenue inflection.... H4 2026 for $NBIS revenue inflection, and so on for my own ests. Of course, lot of volatility in between then.
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SIVE轻晶圆厂产能模型显示高毛利潜力，CW瓶颈加剧利好，看好其CPO地位及并购上行空间。
很多人对 $SIVE 通过轻晶圆厂模式（Win Semi 等）进行产能爬坡建模感到好奇： 假设使用 Win 10% 的晶圆产能作为低端配置（65% 良率假设，$50-$75 ASP）： Sivers 将支撑 $3.41 亿-$5.12 亿的年度阵列营收。鉴于管理层 50-60%+ 毛利率目标的上限，大致为： $2.05 亿-$3.07 亿的年度毛利润。 相对于 Sivers 当前约 $11 亿的市场资本化，若此产能情景在 2028 年实现，约为： 3.6–5.4 倍 市值/毛利润。 若按 15% 计算，毛利润为 $3.07 亿-$4.61 亿（2.4–3.6 倍 市值/毛利润）。 Sivers CEO 也回复称他们正在与更多晶圆厂合作以获取产能。从旧版演示文稿看，自 2024 年以来似乎有更多的资格认证。 因此，随着共封装光学(CPO) 的兴起，产能目标可能比此处陈述的更大。 我也预计未来季度营收管道预测将上调，因为更多合格供应商进入大规模量产(HVM)。 _ 至于需求端，连续波(CW) 激光器也非常瓶颈。 Lumentum 因 ER 财报电话会议中的外延面激光二极管(EML) 义务，正在公开市场购买 CW 激光器。 $AMD 正在签署长期协议(LTA) 以锁定 CW 产能（来自 Trendforce）。所以当 Sivers 与 $GFS, $JBL, Ayar, $POET, O-NET 等合作爬坡时... 鉴于当前的限制，任何上线的独立合格产能很可能被吸收。 锦上添花的是，摩根士丹利将 $SIVE (~$11 亿) 列为三大领先 CPO 激光器玩家之一。 与其近期笔记中 $550 亿+ 的 Coherent 和 Lumentum 并列，是有原因的... _ 总结：Sivers 仅需 Win 的低端配置，相对于当前估值即可产生可观的毛利润。 我认为最大的未建模营收上行空间在于美国纳斯达克上市后的 TAM 扩张与并购。 通过复制 Lumentum 与 Cloud Light 的剧本，构建整个收发器模块或光引擎。
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Lot of people were curious about $SIVE capacity volume ramp modeling through fab-light (Win Semi + others): Using 10% of Win's wafer capacity as a low-end allocation (65% yield assumption, $50-$75 ASP): Sivers would support $341-$512M worth of annual array revenue. Given upper end of managements 50-60%+ gross margin target, would be roughly: $205–307M of annual gross profit. Against Sivers current ~$1.1B MC, would be ~: 3.6–5.4× MC/gross profit if this capacity scenario plays out in 2028. And at 15% would be $307–461M in gross profit (2.4–3.6× MC/gross profit) Sivers CEO also replied that they're working with more fabs for capacity. And from an older deck, there looks to be more qualifications since 2024. So capacity targets might be larger than what's stated here as CPO takes off. I also expect to see revenue pipeline projections hiked in future quarters, as more qualification suppliers to into HVM. _ As for demand side, CW also happens to be very bottlenecked. Lumentum are buying CW off the open market due to EML obligations from their ER transcript. And $AMD are signing LTAs to secure CW capacity (from Trendforce). So when Sivers is ramping with $GFS, $JBL, Ayar, $POET, O-NET and others... Given the current constraints, it's highly likely any independent qualified capacity that comes online would be absorbed. And as a cherry on top, Morgan Stanley named $SIVE (~$1.1B) as one of the three leading CPO laser players . Alongside $55B+ players Coherent and Lumentum in their recent note for a reason... _ TLDR: Sivers only needs a low end allocation from Win to make substantial gross income relative to current valuations. I think the largest revenue upside that isn't modeled in if they TAM expansion with M&A after US NASDAQ listing. By copying the Lumentum playbook with Cloud Light to build out entire transceiver modules or with optical engines.
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POET证实光学巨头遭抛售，预示市场将经历去杠杆回调。
@meikozz_2026 我认为基本面没有错。市场可能会不时出现大幅回调，以清洗掉杠杆和保证金，随后才会继续上涨。 而且这个月似乎就是这样的时间节点？ $POET 证实你们提到的大型光学巨头如 $LITE、$COHR 已被完全抛售。
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@meikozz_2026 I don't see any fundamentally wrong. There's probably going to be large corrections from time to time flush out margin/leverage before things move higher. And this month seems like that time of year? $POET confirmed your big optical giants like $LITE, $COHR are completely sold
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看好$SIVE，因其作为激光供应商地位稳固且计划上市并购。
@FaceHonor $SIVE 大概是我目前最看好的股票，我不担心短期下跌。 - 你是 $GFS、$JBL、Ayar、$POET 以及许多其他超大规模客户供应商的激光供应商。 - 计划在未来几个季度在纳斯达克上市。 - 随后将通过并购(M&A)目标来扩大总可服务市场(TAM)。
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@FaceHonor $SIVE is probably my favorite stocks right now, not concerned about short term drops. - You have the laser supplier to $GFS, $JBL, Ayar, $POET, and many other hyperscaler suppliers. - NASDAQ listing planned in the next few quarters - Followed by M&A goals for TAM expansion.
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SIVE获7000万扩产，多家公司产量爬坡，无视技术面噪音。
@Cped221267 没人应该关心技术分析(TA)图表，因为那只是人们编造出来的曲线，试图说服别人卖出。 $SIVE 刚刚紧急筹集了 7000 万美元，用于大规模量产，很可能是为了从晶圆厂(Foundry)获取产能分配。 随着 $JBL、$POET、$AEVA 等公司在短期内产量爬坡。 然后是 $GFS，
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@Cped221267 Nobody should care about TA charts since people just made up squiggly lines trying to convince others to sell. $SIVE just raised an emergency $70M for mass production likely for allocation from fabs. With $JBL, $POET, $AEVA, and others volume ramping near term. Then $GFS,
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光子学营收扎实且获NVDA支持，LITE订单饱满，量子计算营收寥寥。
光子学有实际营收数据支撑，且是 $NVDA 推崇的架构变革。 量子计算几乎没有营收。 $LITE 未来两年订单已完全售罄（据 $POET 股东大会），预计从 2029 年开始交付。Lumentum 产能极度紧张，甚至需要外购 CW 激光器。
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Photonics is backed by actual revenue numbers and it's an architectural shift championed by $NVDA. Quantum barely has any revenue. $LITE is completely sold out for the next 2 years (per $POET AGM) likely starting into 2029. Lumentum is so strained that they buy CW lasers off
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POET 暗示激光器短缺将延续至 2029 年，加剧供应紧张。
关于 $POET 年度股东大会及光通信市场阅读的一些笔记： - “前三大激光器供应商占据 68% 的市场份额，且未来两年完全售罄” $LITE 首席执行官表示短缺将持续至 2028 年，因此 POET 隐含确认激光器短缺将延续至 2029 年。 - https://t.co/Lx8IHQ9fyK
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Just some notes on $POET AGM and read through on optical markets: - "The top three laser suppliers control 68% of the market, and they’re completely sold out for the next two years" $LITE CEO said into 2028, so POET implicitly confirms laser shortage is going into 2029 now. - https://t.co/Lx8IHQ9fyK
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博主澄清对SIVE极度看好，列举其CPO及高速光模块业务优势。
哦，我觉得你误解了……随着价格下跌，我实际上比以往任何时候都更看好。$SIVE 市值约 19 亿美元，你拥有：- $GFS 参考激光器 - 用于 Ayar 等公司在 $NVDA NVLink 生态系统中进行共封装光学(CPO)规模扩展的激光器 - $POET 等用于 CPO 规模扩展 - $JBL 等用于 1.6T+ 速率
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oh i think u misunderstand... I'm actually more bullish than ever as prices go down. $SIVE at ~$1.9B MC you have: - $GFS reference laser - laser for Ayar and others in $NVDA NVLink ecosystem for CPO scale up - $POET and others for CPO scale out - $JBL and others for 1.6T+
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POET/SIVE有望为三大超大规模云服务商提供动力
来自 Poet OSINT 社区的有趣新信息发现： $POET / $SIVE 很可能将为顶级三大超大规模云服务商（亚马逊、微软、谷歌之一）提供动力。 鉴于 Lumilens 首席执行官 Ankur Singla 的 LinkedIn 更新。 他声明他们的客户是前三大之一 https://t.co/Rs0D8HE1T9
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Fun new information discovery from Poet OSINT community: Seems likely that $POET / $SIVE are going to power a Top-3 hyperscaler (either Amazon, Microsoft, Google). Given a Linkedin update from Ankur Singla (CEO of Lumilens). Who stated their customer is one of the top 3 https://t.co/Rs0D8HE1T9
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澄清误解，论证SIVE在CPO及可插拔光模块中的核心地位，强烈看多。
这是一个误解： $SIVE 是下一代架构的激光器供应商，不仅仅局限于共封装光学(CPO)的规模扩展(scale up)。 可插拔(Pluggable)、规模扩展(scale out) CPO、规模扩展(scale up) CPO、近封装光学(NPO)等。 - Sivers 和 $JBL 开启了“神模式”，开发了采用连续波(CW)激光器的 1.6T 光模块。 有效地绕过了电吸收调制激光器(EML)的瓶颈，甚至提高了能效。 根据捷普(Jabil)管理层的说法，他们建立了“相对显著的护城河”。 因此，对于下一代 1.6T 可插拔光模块，Sivers 似乎立即被采用。 市场也错过了这一细微差别：在捷普宣布后，其他可插拔厂商也主动联系，SIVE 现在正与他们合作（可能处于联合开发、资格认证阶段）。 像 Lumentum 这样垂直整合的光模块厂商并不多（想想中际旭创/新易盛，可能还有其他）。 所以这些是正在进行的开发，只是尚未公开披露，随时可能发布新的新闻稿。 - 对于 2026 年下半年开始的 CPO 规模扩展(scale out)，如 $POET，$SIVE 是这些厂商的激光器供应商。 - 规模扩展(scale up) CPO 将在 2027 年下半年到来，来自 Ayar 和英伟达(Nvidia)的 NVLink CPO 生态系统，这是光模块厂商的主要放量阶段。 但在这里，$SIVE 看起来在供应链映射中碾压其他所有玩家。 因为他们很可能早在规模尚小时就与 $MRVL Celestial、Lightmatter、Lightelligence 等合作并完成了设计导入。 除此之外还有： 对于像 $GFS 这样的晶圆代工厂，$SIVE 是参考激光器。 甚至不包括像 O-Net 这样与 $SIVE 合作构建 ELS 的大公司，可能用于亚洲超大规模数据中心的供应链。 这就是为什么 $SIVE 是我目前最看好的激光器瓶颈长持标的。 感觉从 2027 年初开始，他们在新的光学架构中无处不在。
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That’s a misconception: $SIVE is the laser supplier for next gen architectures, not just CPO scale up. Pluggable, scale out CPO, scale up CPO, NPO, etc. - Sivers and $JBL went god-mode and developed 1.6T optical transceivers with CW lasers. Effectively designing around the EML bottlenecks, and even made things more power efficient. From quotes from Jabil management they created a “relatively dramatic moat”. So for the next gen of 1.6T pluggable transceivers, Sivers seems immediately used. Markets missed this nuance too: after Jabil’s announcement, other pluggable players reached out, and SIVE is working with them now (prob codevelopment, qualification stage). There’s not too many players that build optical transceivers that aren’t vertically integrated like Lumentum (think: Innolight/eoptolink, and maybe others). So these are active developments, just not public material yet and could be a new press release anytime. - for CPO scale out which happens H2 2026 onward like $POET , $SIVE is a laser supplier for those players. - scale up CPO is h2 2027, from Ayar and Nvidia’a NVLink CPO ecosystem and that’s the main volume ramp across optical players. But this is where $SIVE looks like they mog every other player from supply chain mapping. Since they’ve likely been working + designed in with $MRVL Celestial, Lightmatter, Lightelligence and the others since they were small way back when. On top of things like this: For foundries like $GFS , $SIVE is the reference laser. Not even including massive companies like O-Net building ELS with $SIVE, likely for the Asian hyperscalers supply chains. This is why $SIVE is by far my favorite laser chokepoint long. Feels like they’re everywhere in new optical architectures starting beginning of 2027.
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汇总粉丝提出的800V直流供电相关标的清单。
好了，大家，这是你们最喜欢的 800V 直流供电(800V DC)相关想法汇总清单。 1. $IFNNY - 1158亿美元 2. $ON - 462亿美元 3. Lite-On(2301) - 160.3亿美元 4. 6504.T - 141亿美元 5. $VICR - 128亿美元 6. $LFUS - 115.7亿美元 7. https://t.co/1unM4FPf65 - 83.4亿美元 8. $VSH - 78.6亿美元 9. $ENPH - 73.6亿美元 10. $NVTS - 57.7亿美元 11. $POWI - 43.0亿美元 12. $BDC - 41.8亿美元 13. $EOSE - 38.6亿美元 14. $SEDG - 38.2亿美元 15. $AEHR - 31亿美元 16. 6890.T - 26.6亿美元 17. $WOLF - 21.6亿美元 18. $CWR.L - 17.5亿美元 19. $AMSC - 16.8亿美元 20. https://t.co/43OXU9tx65 - 16.8亿美元 21. $XFAB - 15.4亿美元 22. $AOSL - 12.5亿美元 23. $HYLN - 12.3亿美元 24. $FCEL - 8.35亿美元 25. $IQE.L - 7.80亿美元 26. $ASYS - 2.76亿美元 27. $RELL - 2.39亿美元 28. 6844.T - 2.22亿美元 29. 4973.T - 2.07亿美元 30. $PAY.BR - 1.89亿美元 31. 6616.T - 1.86亿美元 32. 6882.T - 1.24亿美元 33. $IPWR - 9600万美元 我也把你们提到的一些相邻标的放了进去，比如 $FCEL 或 $EOSE，虽然我不确定它们的敞口是否真的很好。像有人提到的 $POET 这种明显不太相关的，我就忽略了。 评论大概有500条，但我猜 X 限制了我能看到的内容。 我们拭目以待，看看你们最高信念的想法表现如何。
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Okay chat, here's your compiled list chat of your favorite 800V DC related ideas. 1. $IFNNY - $115.8B 2. $ON - $46.2B 3. Lite-On (2301) - $16.03B 4. 6504.T - $14.1B 5. $VICR - $12.8B 6. $LFUS - $11.57B 7. https://t.co/1unM4FPf65 - $8.34B 8. $VSH - $7.86B 9. $ENPH - $7.36B 10. $NVTS - $5.77B 11. $POWI - $4.30B 12. $BDC - $4.18B 13. $EOSE - $3.86B 14. $SEDG - $3.82B 15. $AEHR - $3.1B 16. 6890.T - $2.66B 17. $WOLF - $2.16B 18. $CWR.L - $1.75B 19. $AMSC - $1.68B 20. https://t.co/43OXU9tx65 - $1.68B 21. $XFAB - $1.54B 22. $AOSL - $1.25B 23. $HYLN - $1.23B 24. $FCEL - $835M 25. $IQE.L - $780M 26. $ASYS - $276M 27. $RELL - $239M 28. 6844.T - $222M 29. 4973.T - $207M 30. $PAY.BR - $189M 31. 6616.T - $186M 32. 6882.T - $124M 33. $IPWR - $96m Also included some adjacent ones you all mentioned like $FCEL or $EOSE anyway, tho idk it's great exposure. Ignored the clearer irrelevant stuff like $POET that people mentioned tho. There's like 500 comments, but I guess X limits everything I can see. We'll see how your highest conviction ideas do.
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对比NASDAQ与欧股上市估值，认为XFAB被低估。
NASDAQ 和欧洲上市之间的差异： $POET：24亿美元市值 -> 封装 Sivers 激光器 -> 一个5000万美元预生产合同换认股权证 > $XFAB：17亿美元市值 -> SiC/GaN/MEMS/硅光子代工厂，受到 EU CHIPS Act 和 US CHIPS Act PMT 支持 -> 低于重置市净率价值 -> ……
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The difference between NASDAQ and EU listing: $POET: $2.4B MC -> Packages Sivers lasers -> One $50m pre-production contract for warrants > $XFAB: $1.7B MC ->SiC/GaN/MEMS/Silicon Photonics Foundry backed with EU CHIPS ACT, US CHIPS ACT PMT -> Below replacement P/B value ->
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反驳SIVE空头，称MRVL Celestial可能直接向SIVE买激光器。
有一个新的 $SIVE 空头，完全不知道自己在说什么。 1. $MRVL Celestial 很可能直接购买激光器，$SIVE 是激光供应商，而不是通过 $POET。 因为自2023年以来，它们就被识别为可能的直接客户。 一个类比是如果 O-Net / ……
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There's a new $SIVE short seller with 0 clue what they're talking about. 1. $MRVL Celestial is likely buying lasers directly with $SIVE as the laser supplier, not through $POET. As they've been identified as a likely direct customer since 2023. An analogy is if O-Net / https://t.co/XDrPS6OVNG
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长文重申SIVE是最有吸引力的CPO/光子学敞口，并列出客户、资金、上市和M&A催化。
$SIVE 是我眼中最有吸引力的 CPO/光子学敞口。 针对错误信息：我没有卖出，也不打算卖出一股。 我确实认为它有一天会从约21亿美元成长为下一个800亿美元以上的 $LITE。 我个人也计划获得更多所有权，并支持它们的并购前景。 我相信财报电话会记录会非常正面。 过去几个月我们发现了很多线索：AlChip/Amazon 私募对 Ayar 有利，并暗示 $SIVE 进入 Trainium 4 设计；Wiwynn + Ayar 的 CPO 放量；$JBL 1.6T 光收发器与 Sivers 的放量比市场预期更快；O-Net 正在扩大与 $SIVE 的 ELS 努力；$YSS 收购 $SIVE 的 allspace 主要合作伙伴并把 Sivers 设计进太空防务主承包商；新的 CHIPS Act 资金；$POET 下半年放量及其新订单（$SIVE 作为光源）；关于 $AAPL 使用 $SIVE 激光用于下一代消费设备的信息；与 Lightelligence、Lightmatter、Celestial/$MRVL、Lightium、$AMD/$GFS、Ayar、可插拔 TAM、NASDAQ 上市、MSCI/Nasdaq OMX 纳入、M&A、$NOK 客户线索、$LITE 的 CW 瓶颈和 Win 产能协议等信息。 这些市场研究都发生在财报之前。任何财报结果只是对供应链映射的确认。 我不认为有人关心前一季度收入，因为 $SIVE 是一个极具吸引力的2027年多头，尤其是下半年以后。 我只看几件事：整体光子学超级周期的 TAM 扩张（如光引擎、ELS、可插拔），来自并购或业务发展的机会；现有客户的放量预期；NASDAQ 上市时间线，以获得更多流动性支持并购；以及 CPO/可插拔的新客户信号。
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$SIVE is the most compelling CPO/photonics exposure to me. Addressing the disinformation: I haven’t sold and don’t plan to sell a single share. I do think this ends up the next $80B+ $LITE one day from ~$2.1B. And I personally have plans to acquire more ownership + support their M&A prospects. I believe earnings transcripts will be strongly positive. As in the part few months we’ve discovered: > AlChip/Amazon private placements, which is positive for Ayar -> $SIVE implying Trainium 4 design in > Wiwynn + Ayar CPO scale up > $JBL 1.6T optical transceiver ramp with Sivers incoming faster than markets expected (with relatively dramatic moat + demand as much as they can produce) > O-Net scaling up ELS efforts with $SIVE > $YSS acquisition of $SIVE allspace lead partner, designing Sivers into Space defense primes > New CHIPS ACT funding for $SIVE > $POET H2 volume ramp and their new $50m -> $500m order (with $SIVE as light source) > information discovery around $AAPL using $SIVE lasers for next gen consumer devices > information discovery around links to Lightelligence (went public $10B+ MC) + Lightmatter as likely customers. > Celestial volume ramp with $MRVL indicators. > new customers working on TFLN with $SIVE like Lightium > $AMD going with $GFS for CPO, and GFS listing sivers as one of two laser suppliers > Ayar removing $MTSI / $LITE from their website and signaling $SIVE as primary source/sole source > Ayar raising $500m for volume ramp (intel, Mediatek, Nvidia, amd etc) > pluggable TAM expansion signaled from 2025 annual report > Nasdaq listing expected soon > MSCI small cap index / Nasdaq omx inclusion, making Blackrock, Vanguard and others passive buyers > M&A signaled from 2025 annual report + 2 new board members that have experience in that area > $NOK as likely customer from 2025 annual report. > $LITE getting cw bottlenecked from EML contracts, $SIVE signaling capacity agreements in place with Win, making the a likely bottleneck owner + chokepoint in CPO sector. All of this market research was done before earnings. Any results is just confirmation of supply chain mapping done. I don’t think anyone cares about former quarter revenue since $SIVE is an exceptionally compelling 2027 long, especially H2 onward. Only thing I’m looking at are: > TAM expansion of the overall photonics supercycle (eg. optical engine, ELS, pluggables) either from M&A or developments > volume ramp expectations from existing companies > Nasdaq listing timelines for more liquidity to support their M&A efforts > any new customers signaled for CPO/Pluggables
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MRVL财报验证CPO主题和Celestial放量，间接指向SIVE激光需求。
$MRVL 财报是更广泛 CPO 主题的看多信号（也包括 $SIVE 作为可能的激光供应商）。 - “Scale-up interconnect 是 AI 基础设施中最新、最具战略意义的新兴机会之一。” CPO 主题 go brrr。 - 确认 Celestial 被 T1 超大云厂商选中用于 scale-up。 我过去发现过 Celestial 的 $AMZN 认股权证……所以很可能是 Amazon。 - 明年带 Celestial 的 scale-up 光学收入应该超过此前约1.5亿美元预期的2倍。 前瞻收入爬坡预期 go brrr。 - Celestial 团队加上 $MRVL 光学团队是“全垒打”。 Marvell 把 Celestial 视为增长向量，上游 Celestial 供应商受益。 - $MRVL 现在专注于把 Celestial 推向高量制造。 这是放量指标。 如果你不记得，此前有 OSINT 映射显示 $SIVE 直接对应 Celestial，而不是通过 $POET。 所以 Celestial 的前瞻增长，是 Sivers 激光器的放量指标。
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$MRVL earnings were a bullish indicator on the broader CPO theme (and $SIVE as the likely laser supplier). - “Scale-up interconnect represents one of the newest and most strategically important opportunities emerging in AI infrastructure.” CPO thematically go brrr - Confirmation Celestial was selected by T1 hyperscaler for scale up. I’ve found Celestial $AMZN warrants in the past)… so probably Amazon. - Scale-up optics revenue next year should be more than 2x prior ~$150M outlook with Celestial Forward revenue ramp expectations go brrr. - Celestial team plus $MRVL optics team was a “home run”. Marvell sees celestial as growth vector, upstream celestial suppliers go brr - $MRVL is now focused on bringing Celestial to high volume manufacturing. Volume ramp indicator If you don’t recall, there was OSINT mapping $SIVE directly to Celestial, not through $POET. So Celestial forward growth is a volume ramp indicator for Sivers lasers.
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用私有CPO玩家估值论证SIVE作为上游激光瓶颈应获得更高估值。
给试图做 $SIVE 估值分析的人： Ayar、Celestial、Lightmatter、Lightelligence 今天大概估值约40亿到150亿美元以上。 Sivers 市值约26亿美元，而且很可能是它们所有人的上游激光供应商。 我甚至还没把 Poet、TFLN 相关的 Hyperlight/Lightium，或 Jabil 和其他未披露可插拔玩家纳入估值分析。 也没包括 CHIPS Act 合同、Apple/Nokia 关系，或 Aeva 等人形/物理 AI 业务。 散户对私募市场不太熟悉……但这些公司都被视为前沿 CPO 玩家，并且估值和规模都在迅速增长。 所以我预计 $SIVE 应该获得类似甚至更高估值，因为它有激光瓶颈溢价。尤其是在它通过并购扩展 TAM 和收入之后。 下个月 BlackRock/Vanguard/MSCI/NASDAQ 新资金流入会随时间缩小差距。 但 NASDAQ 上市可能才是真正给 Sivers 溢价的因素。
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For people trying to do valuation analysis on $SIVE. Ayar, Celestial, Lightmatter, Lightelligence are probably valued probably ~$4B-15B+ today. Sivers is ~$2.6B MC and they're likely upstream laser for them all. I'm not even including Poet, TFLN links like Hyperlight/Lightium, or pluggables like Jabil + other undisclosed players in valuation analysis. Or their other segments like CHIPS Act contracts or Apple/Nokia relationships. Or humanoid/physical AI segments with Aeva + others. Retail aren't as familiar with private markets... But these companies are all considered the frontier CPO players, and are growing valuations/scaling rapidly. So, I'd expect $SIVE to command similar if not higher valuations given laser chokepoint premiums. Especially after they pull off M&A to TAM expand revenue. New Blackrock/Vanguard/MSCI/NASDAQ inflow next month helps close that gap over time. But NASDAQ listing is probably what gives Sivers a premium.
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阐述SIVE如何成为下一个800亿美元LITE：CPO/1.6T激光kingmaker并通过并购扩展TAM。
为了让 $SIVE 成为下一个800亿美元以上的 $LITE： Sivers 是当前 CPO 和 1.6T 光学转型中的激光 kingmaker。 它们基本上向 CPO 领域的领先玩家供应激光。 从可能的 $MRVL Celestial、Lightmatter、Lightelligence、$POET 以及其他 CPO 玩家开始，在这些公司变大之前就合作。 现在又有 $JBL 这样的1.6T LRO 大玩家，以及更多可插拔产品测试/认证正在进行。 它们终于解决了 Catch-22 问题，并获得市场关注，可以在 NASDAQ 上市后（或现在通过股权）完成基础性 CPO 相关 IP 的下游收购。 并尽可能从激光源向以下方向扩展收入： -> 光引擎/ELS 价值。 -> 光收发器 IP。 就像 $LITE 用2年从20亿美元到800亿美元估值一样。 但不同的是，Sivers 正在 CPO 超级周期中做这件事，这是光子学史上最快的 TAM 扩张。 我关注的是它们能否完成这种大卫对歌利亚式的转变，追赶 $LITE。 这比当前发生的小市值百分比回报更让我在意。
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For $SIVE to become the next $80B+ $LITE. Sivers is the current laser kingmaker of the optical transition to CPO and 1.6T. They basically supply lasers to the leading players in the CPO space. From likely $MRVL Celestial, Lightmatter, Lightelligence, $POET, and others for CPO. before they got big. And now with large players like $JBL for 1.6T LRO + more test/qualifications underway for pluggables. They've finally solved the Catch22 problem, and have the attention of the market to pull off foundational CPO related IP acquisitions downstream on NASDAQ listing (or now with equity). And expand revenue as much as possible from the laser source into: -> Optical Engine/ELS value. -> Optical Transceiver IP Just like $LITE did to drive their valuations from $2B -> $80B in 2 years. But instead of EML + pluggables, Sivers is doing this for the CPO supercycle, the fastest TAM expansion in history for photonics. I'm following the story for them to pull this off this David vs. Goliath shift catching up to $LITE. More than I care about little MC % returns that's happening currently.
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SIVE空头比例或超17%，将面对MSCI流入、NASDAQ上市、CHIPS支持和多客户收入驱动。
先放在这里： $SIVE 空头权益现在可能高于17%+。 因为很多瑞典本地对冲基金做空 Sivers 已经深度亏损。 它们即将通过以下方式遇到美国机构： > 2周内 MSCI 资金流入。 > NASDAQ 上市。 > 美国 CHIPS Act 托底。 同时还有来自光学超级周期的核心收入驱动：未来一两年可能来自 $AAPL、$JBL、$POET、Ayar、Onet/Enablence、Lightium、$AEVA、$MRVL、Lightmatter、Lightelligence 和 $AMD。 我个人不认为在这么早期做空的瑞典本地人（以及一些随机算法）会有好结果。 流行说法是，每一股空头最终都会变成长多。
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Just putting it out there: $SIVE short interest is probably higher than 17%+ now. As lot of local Swedish hedge funds are very underwater, shorting Sivers. They're about to meet US institutions through: > MSCI inflow in 2 weeks. > NASDAQ Listing. > US CHIPS Act backstop. alongside core revenue driver from the optical supercycle revenue ramp from likely $AAPL, $JBL, $POET, Ayar, Onet/Enablence, Lightium, $AEVA, $MRVL, Lightmatter, Lightelligence, and $AMD over the next year or two. I personally don't think it's going to end well for the Swedish locals shorting (and some random algos) at this early stage. And the popular saying is every one stock short turns into a long eventually.
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批评POET和IREN靠营销、稀释散户囤现金，获得“假装直到成功”奖。
$POET 和 $IREN 字面上都赢得了“Fake it Until you make it”奖。 -> 通过网红进行灰色地带的无尽垃圾营销。 -> 稀释散户到足以囤积大量现金。 -> 现金设定了市值底线。 现在 $POET 在4亿美元私募后，可能有约8.3亿美元纯现金来自稀释。 而它去年市值还低于5亿美元。
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$POET and $IREN literally both won the Fake it Until you make it award. -> Grey area endless marketing of crap through influencers. -> Diluted retail enough to hoard tons of cash -> Cash is sets baseline Market Cap. Now $POET probably has around $830M pure cash from dilution after $400m private placement. While their marketcap was sitting under $500m last year.
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深度分析光子学供应链四只股票，强调TAM扩张和垂直整合逻辑，认为是长期核心持仓而非短期交易
当我看到像这样（而且很多）的来自散户投资者的评论时，我立刻认为他们缺乏技术深度。 我来逐一分析从$SIVE到$LPK的每家公司： 1. 光子学TAM（总可寻址市场）从$140亿增长到$1540亿，仅仅两年时间，而且它很可能会在2030年之后继续增长，因为它是下一代架构的首选。 它不会在1年内消失。它不会在3年内消失，这就是为什么$LITE的溢价越来越高，因为他们已经排产到2028年了。 $SIVE供应CW（连续波）激光器，高度绑定CPO（共封装光学）和现在的可插拔收发器，用于1.6T和3.2T... 适用于像$JBL、Ayar、Lightmatter、Lightelligence、$POET、$MRVL、Celestial和$AMD这样的预期公司。 这不是一个"交易"，它是下一代光子学的核心瓶颈和IP持有者。 而且作为未来几年的舒适持仓是很合适的，因为他们正在扩展成为下一个$LITE。 我个人看到的风险（既然他们已经与这么多玩家完成认证），主要是他们能从整体光学超级周期中捕获多少TAM（市场空间）。（以及Win Semi产能爬坡的潜在风险，但Win体量很大所以我可以放心睡觉）。 因为仅仅供应激光器不足以支撑估值。 是TAM向下扩展到制造整个ELS（外部激光源）或整个可插拔收发器，才让这些激光器公司如此有价值。 之后，他们可以向上垂直整合以扩大毛利率，像$COHR那样做激光代工甚至衬底级别的业务。 在我看来，这是非常不对称的风险/回报比，因为我们已经在$LITE身上看到过——他们从$20亿增长到$800亿。 2. $LPK——是下一代先进封装转向玻璃基板的最纯粹敞口，没有SKC Absolics混乱的财务问题。 几乎每家主要半导体公司从$INTC到三星都在采用玻璃基板。 $LPK基本上就是该瓶颈的$ASML，因为他们目前供应给全球约80%的玩家。 是的，设备供应商有"贸易周期"，比如$ASML，如果有更多晶圆厂资本支出，ASML就会增长。但如果出现低迷，这些往往表现不佳，也无法捕获之后发生的所有量产出货。 然而，如果市值是$6.5亿，他们正在实现$1-2亿收入，随着每个客户的量产出货增长，他们从玻璃基板周期中获得的收益可能会超过当前估值。 而且他们会有基本面支撑（因为越来越多的公司采用封装转型），这会维持他们的估值。 现在只是等待产能爬坡的时机而已。 3. $AAOI——这简直就是美国版的光子学$INTC。可以说Intel不是长期投资。 猜猜你们所有的光收发器是在哪里制造的？ 中国、泰国、马来西亚。如果你看看Innolight、Eoptolink、$FN和其他公司。 AOI正在建设最大的美国本土供应链，包括CW激光器代工以及800G、1.6T组装。 是的，这也有可插拔周期起伏。明年会有1.6T的浪潮，然后CPO会蚕食可插拔市场。 但由于他们在内部制造整个供应链，他们对其他细分市场有极大的选择性。而且像$NVDA的老一代GPU一样，会有主权数据中心对老一代可插拔收发器的需求，来自像$AAOI这样的厂商。 它很可能会继续上涨，因为它在2026年下半年达到每月$4亿+收入的目标。 一路上有很多不同的短期波动，比如$6亿的稀释。 4. $IQE——？？？这是西方世界最重要的外延晶圆玩家之一。 $MTSI不遗余力地偿还了IQE的债务，因为他们不能让IQE倒闭。$IQE还向$LITE供货。 目前世界在 Landmark评论提到的外延晶圆水平和InP衬底水平都存在瓶颈。 他们的财务数据虽然糟糕，但从原始账面价值和他们在整个西方供应链中的价值来看……完全支撑他们的估值。其他光学公司不会让他们核心的上游供应链倒闭。 因为这些价值数千万美元的材料出问题，会搞砸下游价值数十亿美元的产品。 再次强调，光子学是扩展AI所需的下一代架构。不是量子计算那种"还在开发中"的东西。 它就在这里，而且是$NVDA选择的架构。 如果几年后这些都涨了很多，我一点也不会惊讶。 那些认为"只是因为我提到了"就在3个月内一波流的 people，根本不知道他们在说什么。 机构最终会买入这些标的（就像Point 72买入$IQE那样），散户只会在估值已经涨了600%之后才知道。 真的应该在发表评论前做好研究： 这些都是需要深入供应链知识的前瞻性增长公司。
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When I see comments like this (and there are a lot) from retail investors: I immediately think they lack the technical depth. I'll walk through each one from $SIVE to $LPK: 1. Photonics TAM goes from $14B -> $154B In just two years time, and it's likely going to keep scaling past 2030 as it's the next generation architecture of choice. It's not going away in 1 year. It's not going away in 3 years, which is why $LITE premiums keep going higher since they're backlogged into 2028. $SIVE supplies CW lasers and is highly tethered to CPO and now pluggable transcivers for 1.6T and 3.2... For expected companies like $JBL, Ayar, Lightmatter, Lightelligence, $POET, $MRVL Celestial, and $AMD. This isn't a "trade", it's the core chokepoint and IP holder for the next generation of photonics. And it's a comfortable hold for the next few years as they scale to become the next $LITE. The risk I personally see (since they're already qualified with so many players), it's mainly how much TAM they can capture of the overall optical supercycle. (And potential risks with Win Semi volume ramp, but Win is massive so I can sleep tightly there). As just supplying lasers isn't enough to justify valuation. It's TAM expansion downward into making the entire ELS or entire pluggable transceiver that makes these laser companies so valuable. Then afterward, they can vertically integrating upward for gross margin expansion upward like $COHR into doing the laser fabs or even substrate level. And that in my view is a very asymmetric risk/reward ratio as we've already seen this done with $LITE as they went from $2B to $80B. 2. $LPK - Is the purest exposure, without the messy financials of SKC Absolics, as the next advanced packaging shift for glass substrates. Almost every single major semi company from $INTC to Samsung are adopting glass substrates. $LPK is basically $ASML of this chokepoint, since they supply to ~80% of the global players currently. Yes, there's "trade cycles" for equipment suppliers like $ASML, where if there's more foundry capex, ASML scales up. But if there's downturns, these tend to perform poorly, and don't capture all the volume ramp that happens after. However, if the MC is $650m and they're making $100-200M, revenue per costumer volume ramped, the amount they make from the glass substrate cycle will likely exceed current valuations. And they'll have baseline fundamentals (as more companies adopt the packaging shift), that keeps their valuation up. It's just a waiting game for volume ramp at this point. 3. $AAOI - This is literally $INTC but for America + Photonics. It's like saying Intel is not a long term investment. Guess where all your optical transcivers are made? China. Thailand. Malaysia. If you look at Innolight, Eoptolink, $FN, and others. AOI is building the largest Made in America supply chains for both CW laser fab, as well as 800g, 1.6T assembly. Yes, there are pluggable cycle ups and downs to this as well. There's going to be a wave for 1.6T next year, then CPO cannibalizes pluggables down the road. But since they make the entire supply chain in house, they have extreme optionality for other segments. And like $NVDA older gen-GPUs, there's going to be sovereign DC requirements for older gen pluggables from names like $AAOI. It's likely going to keep rising as it hits that $400m+/month revenue target H2 2026. There's just a lot of different short term volatility along the way like the $600m dilution. 4. $IQE - ??? It's one of the most important players in the Western word for epiwafers. $MTSI went out of their way to pay off IQE's debt because they can't have them going under. $IQE is also supplying to $LITE. The world is currently bottlenecked both on the epiwafer level from Landmark comments and InP substrate levels. Their financials were track but the raw book value, and value they hold to the entire Western supply chain... completely justifies their valuation. And other optical companies will not let their core upstream supply chain go under. As these tens of millions worth of materials would screw up tens of billions worth of downstream products. Again photonics is the next generation architecture required to scale AI. It's not Quantum where it's just "In development". It's literally here and the architecture of choice by $NVDA. I would not be surprised if all of these are a lot higher in 3-4 years time. People who think it's one and done in 3 months time "only because I mentioned it" don't know what they're talking about. Institutions would have bought up the name eventually (like Point 72 on $IQE) and retail would only find out after their valuations are 600% higher. Should really do the research before adding comments like these: These are all forward growth companies that require in-depth supply chain knowledge.
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把 SIVE 和 Ayar / AlChip / Amazon Trainium 链条连起来
@DanilSer33 新的 $SIVE / Ayar / AlChip / $AMZN Trainium 供应链，比最近那个 $POET 5000 万到 5 亿美元采购订单更值得看多。 市场大概率不会立刻看出 Ayar、AlChip 和 $SIVE 之间的联系，除非有人把它点出来。
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@DanilSer33 The new $SIVE / Ayar / AlChip / $AMZN trainium supply chain is more bullish than the recent $POET $50m -> $500m purchase order. Markets probably won’t see the connection between Ayar AlChip and $SIVE unless someone points it out though.
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质疑 POET 估值高过 FOCI 的合理性
为什么 $POET（31.4 亿美元）的估值会比 FOCI（3363，31 亿美元）还高？？？ FOCI 明明就是 CPO 量产爬坡的瓶颈，也是 $TSM 和 $NVDA 的主要供应商。 我非常看好 FOCI，等机构发现这个名字后，它会跑赢。 另外，FOCI 管理层能不能像 $HIMX 那样去做 NASDAQ ADR？谢谢。
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HOW DOES $POET ($3.14B) HAVE A HIGHER VALUATION THAN FOCI (3363, $3.1B)??? FOCI IS LITERALLY THE BOTTLENECK FOR CPO VOLUME RAMP AND MAIN SUPPLIER FOR $TSM AND $NVDA. High conviction Foci outperforms once institutions find this name. Also, can Foci management please pursue NASDAQ ADR like $HIMX? Thank you.
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解释 POET 订单激励其实也利好 SIVE
这些 warrants 确实有助于激励 $POET 再增加 5 亿美元的采购订单。 不过我不在意，实际上它对 $SIVE 更有利，而不是对 Poet 更有利，因为 Sivers 会拿到那 5 亿美元 $POET BOM 激光订单里很大一部分，而且不需要承担同样的激励抵押。 只是市场现在还没看懂这个细节。
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The warrants do help incentivize the $500m in extra purchase orders for $POET though. But I'm not complaining, it's actually more beneficial to $SIVE than it is to Poet, since Sivers gets all the large percent of that $500M $POET BOM of laser orders without that incentive as collateral. Just don't think markets know that nuance yet.
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评论CPO供应链分析文章，指出Sivers与多家光互联芯片公司存在映射关系。
很有意思的阅读！觉得你覆盖了关于整体CPO增长曲线的大部分重要观点，写了一个很好的牛市案例。 特别是关于$SIVE如何服务于Ayar、$JBL和$POET，并通过与Win合作采用资本支出轻量的晶圆厂轻资产模式实现规模化。 实际上还有大量与$MRVL Celestial、Lightelligence、Lightmatter以及其他参与者的供应链映射关系，以及$AAPL等用于相邻SiPH垂直领域的玩家。 但不包括更多尚未100%确认的参与者是合理的。不过O-Net/enablence ELS面向亚洲超大规模业者这一点已得到确认（文章中没有看到这一点）。 但这也说明了Sivers映射到的玩家数量众多。
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Fun read! Think you covered majority of the important points regarding the overall CPO growth curve and wrote a great bull case. Especially how $SIVE feeds into Ayar, $JBL, and $POET + scales using capex light fab-lite model with Win. There's actually a ton of supply chain mapping with $MRVL Celestial, Lightelligence, Lightmatter, and others of players like $AAPL for adjacent SiPH verticals. But makes sense not to include more not 100% confirmed players. O-Net/enablence ELS for Asian hyperscalers was confirmed though (didnt see that there) But just goes to show many players Sivers maps to.