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用私有CPO玩家估值论证SIVE作为上游激光瓶颈应获得更高估值。
给试图做 $SIVE 估值分析的人： Ayar、Celestial、Lightmatter、Lightelligence 今天大概估值约40亿到150亿美元以上。 Sivers 市值约26亿美元，而且很可能是它们所有人的上游激光供应商。 我甚至还没把 Poet、TFLN 相关的 Hyperlight/Lightium，或 Jabil 和其他未披露可插拔玩家纳入估值分析。 也没包括 CHIPS Act 合同、Apple/Nokia 关系，或 Aeva 等人形/物理 AI 业务。 散户对私募市场不太熟悉……但这些公司都被视为前沿 CPO 玩家，并且估值和规模都在迅速增长。 所以我预计 $SIVE 应该获得类似甚至更高估值，因为它有激光瓶颈溢价。尤其是在它通过并购扩展 TAM 和收入之后。 下个月 BlackRock/Vanguard/MSCI/NASDAQ 新资金流入会随时间缩小差距。 但 NASDAQ 上市可能才是真正给 Sivers 溢价的因素。
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For people trying to do valuation analysis on $SIVE. Ayar, Celestial, Lightmatter, Lightelligence are probably valued probably ~$4B-15B+ today. Sivers is ~$2.6B MC and they're likely upstream laser for them all. I'm not even including Poet, TFLN links like Hyperlight/Lightium, or pluggables like Jabil + other undisclosed players in valuation analysis. Or their other segments like CHIPS Act contracts or Apple/Nokia relationships. Or humanoid/physical AI segments with Aeva + others. Retail aren't as familiar with private markets... But these companies are all considered the frontier CPO players, and are growing valuations/scaling rapidly. So, I'd expect $SIVE to command similar if not higher valuations given laser chokepoint premiums. Especially after they pull off M&A to TAM expand revenue. New Blackrock/Vanguard/MSCI/NASDAQ inflow next month helps close that gap over time. But NASDAQ listing is probably what gives Sivers a premium.
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Sivers通过Aeva成为Boston Dynamics的激光供应商，CPO技术是物理AI开发核心
有趣的事实：同一家公司经常出现在不同的供应链中。一个可能的例子是：$SIVE 作为上游激光供应商，通过以下路径供应给 Boston Dynamics：Sivers -> $AEVA FMCW（CW DFB 激光器）-> LG Innotek -> Boston Dynamics。我个人最初其实是因为4D AI而看好Aeva的。偶然发现Sivers是他们4D FMCW激光雷达的高置信度激光供应商。所以你实际上可以在光子学领域获得机器人曝光，而用于超大规模数据中心AI的同款CW激光器也在使用。虽然近期收入增长可能是$SIVE通过Aeva为$NVDA自动驾驶汽车相关架构供应激光器批量增长。人形机器人可能要到2028年？你总能得到更多间接曝光，比如MU的内存或$INTC的边缘CPU，但当然也有更直接的曝光方式。我觉得之前已经覆盖过很多名字了，比如$VPG或Harmonic Drive。但可笑的是，CPO玩家如$SIVE其实是前沿物理AI开发的核心部分。
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Fun fact: Lot of the same companies are often used across different supply chains. One likely example is: $SIVE as the upstream laser supplier to Boston Dynamics via: Sivers -> $AEVA FMCW (CW DFB lasers) -> LG Innotek -> Boston Dynamics. I actually personally liked Aeva for 4D AI first. Just so happened to find out Sivers was their high confidence laser supplier for 4D FMCW lidar. So you actually get robotics exposure with photonics while the same CW lasers used for hyperscaler AI DCs. Near term revenue ramp though it's probably $SIVE supplying laser volume ramp for $NVDA self-driving car related architectures though Aeva. Humanoids are probably later in 2028? You can always get more indirect exposure like MU with memory or $INTC with edge CPUs, but of course there's more direct exposure out there. Think I've already covered a lot of names in the past like $VPG or Harmonic Drive. But hilariously enough CPO players like $SIVE are a core part of frontier physical AI development.
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SIVE空头比例或超17%，将面对MSCI流入、NASDAQ上市、CHIPS支持和多客户收入驱动。
先放在这里： $SIVE 空头权益现在可能高于17%+。 因为很多瑞典本地对冲基金做空 Sivers 已经深度亏损。 它们即将通过以下方式遇到美国机构： > 2周内 MSCI 资金流入。 > NASDAQ 上市。 > 美国 CHIPS Act 托底。 同时还有来自光学超级周期的核心收入驱动：未来一两年可能来自 $AAPL、$JBL、$POET、Ayar、Onet/Enablence、Lightium、$AEVA、$MRVL、Lightmatter、Lightelligence 和 $AMD。 我个人不认为在这么早期做空的瑞典本地人（以及一些随机算法）会有好结果。 流行说法是，每一股空头最终都会变成长多。
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Just putting it out there: $SIVE short interest is probably higher than 17%+ now. As lot of local Swedish hedge funds are very underwater, shorting Sivers. They're about to meet US institutions through: > MSCI inflow in 2 weeks. > NASDAQ Listing. > US CHIPS Act backstop. alongside core revenue driver from the optical supercycle revenue ramp from likely $AAPL, $JBL, $POET, Ayar, Onet/Enablence, Lightium, $AEVA, $MRVL, Lightmatter, Lightelligence, and $AMD over the next year or two. I personally don't think it's going to end well for the Swedish locals shorting (and some random algos) at this early stage. And the popular saying is every one stock short turns into a long eventually.
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$SIVE 年报显示 CPO 与 pluggable 双线扩张
$SIVE 2025 年报分析。 TLDR：非常看多。 Sivers 的主增长向量是 CPO，但他们已经把 TAM 扩展到 pluggable transceivers，以及多项新的 qualification / development。 1. “We are currently seeing great interest... testing our DFB lasers across multiple manufacturers in pluggable transceivers” 从 pluggable 角度看，我们已经在 $JBL 的 1.6T LRO 上看到类似情况，而年报暗示他们还在和更多 hyperscaler 供应商开发 / 认证。 “Our serviceable markets have now been expanded to include pluggable optical interconnects as well as scale-up and scale-out architectures for co-packaged” （TAM 扩张） 2. “Discussions with hyperscalers and pluggable transceiver suppliers indicate a shortage of CW lasers in the coming years” $LITE 已经提示过 CW laser 的瓶颈，他们甚至不得不外购竞品。我们之前其实就猜到 CW laser 会是瓶颈。 而这次年报确认了这一点，所以我也在看 Win Semi。 “The partnership announced with high-volume supplier Win Semiconductor in March 2025 now gives us a strong position to meet growing demand” $SIVE 很可能已经通过 Win 锁定了产能，这正是我最想确认的。 这把 Sivers 放在了 CW laser 既是瓶颈又是 CPO 激光架构领导者的位置。 H2 量产信号（看多）： 3. “The collaboration positions both companies to address the rapidly growing market for optical AI connectivity, with prototypes to be demonstrated to customers during the first half of 2026 and with the goal of scaling up production by the end of 2026” H1 更偏 preproduction，H2 才是量产启动，像 $POET 那样。 4. “We are pleased that our largest LIDAR customer will increase production starting in the fourth quarter of 2026” $AEVA 在 2026 年 Q4 开始量产，对 $SIVE 也是利好。 LIDAR 提供了 revenue floor，而他们的 CPO 正在放量。 5. Sivers 还宣布和 LIGHTIUM AG 合作，把 CW laser 直接整合到 TFLN wafers 上。3.2T+ 周期，属于未来防守。 顺带说一下，去年 2025 的财报本身，除了瑞典本地媒体/散户外，真没几个像样的投资者会在意。 尤其当你看的是 2027-2028 的 CPO 超级周期时。 但从财报和地理布局里你能提取到的一个高置信客户信号是：$NOK 现在已经是 $SIVE 的高置信客户。 TLDR： -> Win Semi 暗示在 CW laser 瓶颈下锁定了产能 -> 新一批 hyperscaler 供应商在测试/认证 pluggable transceivers，TAM 巨大扩张 -> 新的 CW laser 客户 -> photonics 和 lidar 都在 H2 开始量产爬坡。
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$SIVE 2025 annual report analysis. TLDR: Extremely Bullish. Sivers main growth vector is CPO, but they've TAM expansioned to pluggable transcivers + multiple new qualifications/development. 1. "We are currently seeing great interest... testing our DFB lasers across multiple manufacturers in pluggable transceivers" For pluggable angle, we've seen this with $JBL 1.6T LRO already, but annual report hinted they're developing/qualifying with more hyperscaler suppliers. "Our serviceable markets have now been expanded to include pluggable optical interconnects as well as scale-up and scale-out architectures for co-packaged" (TAM expansion) 2. "Discussions with hyperscalers and pluggable transceiver suppliers indicate a shortage of CW lasers in the coming years" $LITE already signaled CW laser bottlenecks, and they had to buy externally from competitors. So we kinda guessed CW Laser was a bottleneck. And this confirmed it, so was wondering about Win semi. "The partnership announced with high-volume supplier Win Semiconductor in March 2025 now gives us a strong position to meet growing demand" $SIVE likely has capacity locked in with Win from this nuance, which is exactly what I wanted to know. This positions Sivers in the CW laser as both a bottleneck and CPO laser architectural leader. VOLUME PRODUCTION H2 INDICATIONS (BULLISH): 3. "The collaboration positions both companies to address the rapidly growing market for optical AI connectivity, with prototypes to be demonstrated to customers during the first half of 2026 and with the goal of scaling up production by the end of 2026" H1 is more preproduction, H2 production signaled starting with names like $POET. 4. "We are pleased that our largest LIDAR customer will increase production starting in the fourth quarter of 2026" $AEVA start of volume production Q4 with $SIVE = bullish for both. Revenue floor from LIDAR as their CPO scales. 5. Sivers announced a partnership with LIGHTIUM AG to integrate their CW lasers directly onto TFLN wafers. 3.2T+ cycle. (future proofing) FYI no decent investor cares about last year's 2025 financials from development contracts aside from Swedish Media/Locals. Especially when you're forward looking for the 2027-2028 CPO supercycle. But the hint from you can take away from financials + geography that is $NOK is now the high confidence customer of $SIVE. TLDR: -> Win Semi implied capacity lock in during CW laser bottleneck -> Hints of new group of hyperscaler suppliers testing/qualification for pluggable transcivers, which is massive TAM expansion. -> New customers for CW lasers -> Volume production scaling starting H2 for both photonics and lidar.
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众包人形机器人投资标的清单，汇总出现频率最高的六只股票。
这是人形机器人敞口众包列表： - $OUST - Rainbow Robotics (277810) - $AMBA - Ubtech Robotics - $MKA - Nextronics - $SYM - Harmonic Drive (6324) - $VPG - 北京极智嘉 - $MBLY - $ARBE - Nabtesco (6268) - $SERV - $HSYDF - Robotstrategy - $ZBRA - $CATL - $ABB - $BOT - Unitree (尚未上市) - $LSCC - 亿sunny Robot (300024) - $NOVT - $RR - $PDY - 禾赛科技 (2525) - $SHA.DE - $XBOT - $XPEV - $BAM - $ALNT - 6268.T - $AMBQ - $ATOM - $MRAM - $ISRG - $HLIT - Robosense (2498) - $HG - $ACUVI - $CGNX - $KLIC - $BSL - $AEVA - $AUR - $CTH.V - $IMSR - $NEO - $KDK - $MRLN - $KITT - $INDI - $NOVT 凭记忆： Harmonic Drive、$OUST、$BOT、$VPG、$MBLY和Ubtech出现频率最高。 接下来会对这些提及最多的标的开始做尽职调查。
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Here's the humanoid exposure crowdsourced list: - $OUST - Rainbow Robotics (277810) - $AMBA - Ubtech Robotics - $MKA - Nextronics - $SYM - Harmonic Drive (6324) - $VPG - Beijing Geekplus - $MBLY - $ARBE - Nabtesco (6268) - $SERV - $HSYDF - Robotstrategy - $ZBRA - $CATL - $ABB - $BOT - Unitree (not public yet) - $LSCC - Esunny Robot (300024) - $NOVT - $RR - $PDY - Hesai (2525) - $SHA.DE - $XBOT - $XPEV - $BAM - $ALNT - 6268.T - $AMBQ - $ATOM - $MRAM - $ISRG - $HLIT - Robosense (2498) - $HG - $ACUVI - $CGNX - $KLIC - $BSL - $AEVA - $AUR - $CTH.V - $IMSR - $NEO - $KDK - $MRLN - $KITT - $INDI - $NOVT Off the top of my head: Harmonic Drive, $OUST, $BOT, $VPG, $MBLY, and Ubtech showed up the most. Will start doing DD into mentions.
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SIVE激光器供应商客户覆盖多家AI/硅光子明星企业，估值对应的超大规模客户量惊人
$SIVE 向以下公司供应激光器：可能是 $JBL、Ayar、Lightmatter、$POET、$MRVL Celestial、Lightelligence、$AMD、O-Net/Enablence 以及其他公司。 这还不包括他们与 $AAPL 或 $AEVA 的硅光子(silicon photonics)项目，或者他们其他与CHIPS法案相关的工作。 以这个估值来看，他们所服务的超大规模企业(hyperscaler)数量相当惊人。
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$SIVE supplies lasers to likely $JBL, Ayar, Lightmatter, $POET, $MRVL Celestial, Lightelligence, $AMD, O-Net/Enablence, and others. Not including silicon photonics programs with $AAPL or $AEVA or their other CHIPS act related work. The amount of hyperscaler they feed into is pretty crazy at that valuation.
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Sivers处CPO供应链前沿，910亿美元TAM蓝海刚起步，H2超级周期可期。
只是近期信息发现的回顾 + 与$SIVE的可能映射： -> $JBL 1.6T -> Lightmatter -> Ayar -> $MRVL Celestial -> Lightelligence -> $POET -> $GFS生态 -> $AMD CPO -> O-Net / Enablence -> $AAPL 硅光子学 _ -> $YSS Golden Dome/DoD -> $RTX / $ERIC (太空) -> Bae Systems -> $AEVA $JBL到Ayar供应给超大规模云商如$MSFT、$GOOGL、$AMZN、$META。 Lightelligence到O-Net可能供应给亚洲超大规模云商如腾讯、字节跳动和百度。 在此之上……根据高盛报告，CPO的整体TAM（总可寻址市场）从0增长到$91B。 而Sivers恰好是CPO领域的前沿（也从0开始）。 这绝对是高贝塔和高波动的。 但如果Win卷随着$SIVE一起增长，我看到他们明年都能成为$10B+的公司。 这只是CPO超级周期H2 2026开始之前非常早期的阶段（H1）。
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Just a recap of recent information discovery + likely mapping with $SIVE: -> $JBL 1.6T -> Lightmatter -> Ayar -> $MRVL Celestial -> Lightelligence -> $POET -> $GFS ecosystem -> $AMD CPO -> O-Net / Enablence -> $AAPL Silicon Photonics _ -> $YSS Golden Dome/DoD -> $RTX / $ERIC (Space) -> Bae Systems -> $AEVA With $JBL to Ayar feeding into hyperscalers like $MSFT, $GOOGL, $AMZN, $META. With likely Lightelligence to O-Net feeding into Asian Hyperscalers like Tencent, Bytedance, and Baidu. On top of that... the overarching TAM with CPO from the GS report goes from 0 -> $91B. And Sivers happens to be the bleeding edge for CPO (also starting from 0). This is definitely high-beta and volatile. But if Win volume ramps alongside $SIVE, I see them both becoming $10B+ companies next year. This is just extremely early on (H1) before the CPO supercycle starts H2 2026.
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日本散户持仓是好信号
我很高兴日本社区在研究之后开始建 $SIVE 仓位！ 更强的国际股东基础总是正面的。 至于我的一些看法，市场现在看起来像这样： 1. $NVDA 把 $LITE / $COHR 的分配额度买走了 2. $AMD 的 CPO 走的是 $GFS + $SIVE / Win，剩下的激光供应可能会给 $LITE，如果还有分配的话。 3. 还有……$MRVL 的 CPO 不管怎样都需要激光器。 $SIVE 看起来是最后几家纯 merchant laser 供应商之一。 所以 Marvell 大概率会直接用 $SIVE（本来就符合 Celestial 规格），后面再多来源（也许是 $MTSI）。之后他们再把进入 Celestial 的中介封装 IP 垂直整合掉。 支持这个判断的有一些有意思的点： -> Ayar 把 $MTSI 和 $LITE 从官网上删掉了，改用了 $SIVE 作为主要供应商。Ayar 和 AlChip/GUC 等都有连接。 -> 如果看 $GFS 的幻灯片，在 $AMD 把 CPO 项目交给 GlobalFoundries 之后，只剩下 $SIVE 和 $LITE 两家公众公司。 -> $SIVE 很可能从去年开始就和 Win 有激光产能爬坡协议。 $NVDA 很可能还没把这些激光产能完全分配完，所以像 $JBL、$AMD 以及其他公司会把溢出订单给 Sivers。 因为 $LITE 已经暗示 2028 年的产能基本满了。 我可能也有错，但基于公开信息来看，情况就是这样。 至于为什么我认为它是个好长线： -> Sivers 基本上过去没怎么暴露在 800G 或更早的代际里。 -> 欧洲市场按过去 12 个月营收定价……所以之前估值一直被压得很低。 -> 它们拿到了 $NVDA 造成的超额需求。 但它们也正好站在 CPO 和甚至下一代 1.6T（$JBL LRO）扩产的最前沿，明年就会开始。 然后到 2027 年下半年或 2028 年，还能扩到硅光等相邻领域，比如可能的 $AAPL 消费设备。 或者 FMCW 4D AI 公司，比如 $AEVA。 这么多年开发，终于在明年要开花结果了。 我个人觉得市场漏掉了一个大东西，公开信息会随着时间推移慢慢被大家通过供应链关系、网站挖掘或者演示材料发现。 超大规模云厂商供应商不会无缘无故选一家 10 亿美元市值的瑞典激光公司。 和 $JBL 的直接合同就是最大的信号。 这也是我为什么高 conviction 做多。
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I'm happy Japanese communities started positions in $SIVE after doing research! A stronger international shareholder base is always positive. As for some thoughts, my read on the market looks like: 1. $NVDA bought out allocation from $LITE / $COHR 2. $AMD CPO went with $GFS + $SIVE / Win for remaining laser supply maybe $LITE if there’s still allocation. 3. And… $MRVL CPO will need lasers regardless. $SIVE looks like one of the last remaining pure play merchant laser suppliers. So Marvell will go with $SIVE (fits Celestial specs already) directly with multi-source down the road (maybe $MTSI). After they vertically integrate away interposer packaging process IP that feeds into Celestial. Just some interesting things to back that up: -> Ayar removed $MTSI and $LITE from their website and went with $SIVE as primary. Ayar’s connected to AlChip/GUC and others. -> If look at the $GFS slide there's only two public players with $SIVE and $LITE after $AMD went with Globalfoundries for their CPO program. -> $SIVE likely has agreements with Win since last year for laser capacity scaling. $NVDA likely hasn't fully allocated that laser supply, so the remaining companies like $JBL, $AMD, and others go to Sivers for overflow. Since $LITE signaled they were already fully allocated for 2028. I could be wrong, but just based on public information that’s what it looks like. As for why I think it's a good long: -> Sivers also basically had no exposure to 800G or previous generations. -> European markets price in previous 12 months revenue... hence previous depressed valuations -> they get all the hyperscaler overflow created by market panic from $NVDA But they also happen to be in the bleeding edge of CPO and even for gen-2 1.6T ( $JBL LRO) scaling next year in 2027. Then for H2 2027 or 2028, they scale in adjacent areas like Silicon Photonics for likely $AAPL consumer devices. Or FMCW 4D AI companies like $AEVA. Many many years of development, finally coming to fruition next year. I personally think markets are missing something big here, that the public uncovers over time with mapping hyperscaler relationships, website digging, or presentation slides. Hyperscalers suppliers don't randomly choose a $1B Swedish laser company for no reason. The direct contract with $JBL was the biggest signal of that. And it’s my high conviction long moving forward.
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说 SIVE->AEVA 的映射已经知名，但自己更看好其与 Boston Dynamics Atlas 供应链的关系。
@JuhongH $SIVE -> $AEVA 这条映射已经很有名了。 人们常把 $AEVA 更多和卡车、国防这类工业用途联系起来。 但我更喜欢它在 humanoids 里的位置。而且我觉得目前根本没人把 $SIVE 映射到潜在的 Boston Dynamics Atlas 供应链上。
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@JuhongH $SIVE -> $AEVA is already well known. People often cite $AEVA for more industrial stuff like trucking and maybe defense. But I like it for humanoids in specific. And I don't think anyone mapped $SIVE to possible Boston Dynamics Atlas supply chains at all yet.
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说自己对 AEVA 的兴趣也让他关注到 SIVE 这个上游供应商。
@AscendingLife3 我只是觉得这挺有意思，因为我本来就已经在投像 $AEVA 这样的前沿科技公司了。 而 $SIVE 这个名字恰好也是它们的潜在上游供应商。
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@AscendingLife3 I just find it interesting when I’m already invested in a frontier tech company like $AEVA. The other one in $SIVE happens to be their likely upstream supplier as well.
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把 SIVE->AEVA->LG->Boston Dynamics 视为 4D Physical AI 到光子学的交叉链条。
如果你不记得的话： $AEVA 是我做 4D Physical AI + World Models 的多头。 -> LG 向 $AEVA 投资了 5000 万美元，共同开发 FMCW 4D LiDAR，并明确提到了 humanoids。 -> LG（Boston Dynamics 的视觉供应商）。 但…… 谁在生产这些 FMCW LiDAR 用的 CW 激光器？ 就是那个同样负责光子学放量、并在 $JBL 和 $MRVL Celestial 的 1.6T+ 可插拔模块里扮演关键角色的公司。 它大概率也是 humanoids 和 4D physical AI 的 4D AI CW 激光供应商。 一个很可能的映射是： -> $SIVE -> $AEVA -> $LG -> Boston Dynamics。 $SIVE 和 $AEVA 都是我的两只多头，但 4D Physical AI 到光子学这些前沿赛道往往会重叠。
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If you don't remember: $AEVA was my long for 4D Physical AI + World Models. -> LG $50m in $AEVA to co-develop FMCW 4D LiDAR, explicitly citing Humanoids -> LG (Boston Dynamics vision spuplier). But... Guess who makes those CW lasers for FM-CW Lidar? The very same company for scaling photonics with 1.6T+ pluggables with $JBL to CPO in $MRVL Celestial. Is the likely 4D AI CW laser supplier for humanoids and 4D physical AI. One highly possible mapping: -> $SIVE -> $AEVA -> $LG -> Boston Dynamics. Both $SIVE and $AEVA were my two longs, but frontier sectors in 4D Physical AI to photonics tend to overlap.
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说有私募基金已个人投了 SIVE，US 机构受限，追求美国上市可能更好。
有些私募基金的个人合伙人在我最初发帖后，已经亲自投了 $SIVE！甚至还有一些之前投过 Ayar 的人。 不过，很多美国机构现在会被各自 mandate 或海外准入限制卡住，没法投。 但正如你提到的，共同点往往就是他们第一时间看到了价值，然后克服一些障碍买进去。 所以如果再推进一次美国上市，可能是有希望的，因为很多美国投资者现在没有渠道接触，但又想要公司的成长敞口。
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Some individuals that run private equity funds personally invested in $SIVE after my original post! Including some that invested in Ayar before. However, there’s a lot of fund mandates/overseas access that restricts a lot of US institutions from investing today. But the common dominator as you’ve mentioned, likely saw the value straight away and climbed through some hoops. So pursuing a US listing again may be promising, as many US investors don’t have access but want exposure to the company’s growth.
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小仓位持有AEVA押注4D AI及CPO技术突破，虽无大量现金流但值得冒险。
~14.1美元。基本上就是当前的价格水平。 话虽如此，这是一个小仓位，因为 $AEVA 本质上是对 4D AI 的风险投资式押注。据报道，他们还利用相同技术在共封装光学(CPO)领域取得了突破。 它不像 $RDDT 那样产生大量的自由现金流(FCF)，但我认为值得冒这个险。
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~$14.1. So basically where prices are now. That being said this is a small position since $AEVA company is inherently a venture bet on 4D AI. They also made a breakthrough for CPO using the same technology apparently. It’s not generating massive FCF like $RDDT, but decided it was worth the risk.
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AEVA凭借确定性速度数据优势，降低世界模型计算负载。
世界*模型。显然，如果世界上最先进的世界模型需要多普勒级别的精度，与$OUST相比，$AEVA是少数能做到这一点的公司之一？如果你给Cosmos提供“概率性”深度数据（来自$OUST），模型必须消耗大量计算周期来计算物体的移动位置。$AEVA直接输入确定性速度数据。“如果模型必须从连续深度帧中推断运动，那比直接接收速度作为输入需要更多的计算。”
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World* models. Apparently if the world's most advanced World Models require Doppler-level precision, $AEVA is one of the only companies that can do it compared to companies to $OUST here? If you give Cosmos "probabilistic" depth data (from $OUST ) the model has to spend massive amounts of compute cycles calculating where things are moving. $AEVA just feeds in deterministic velocity data. “If a model has to infer motion from sequential depth frames, that’s additional computation versus receiving velocity as a direct input”
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对比OUST与AEVA技术路线，探讨OUST作为4D AI投资标的的逻辑。
显然，$OUST 更偏向于“概率性 AI (Probabilistic AI)”，而 $AEVA 的调频连续波(FMCW)技术解决的是词元模型(word models)所需的确定性物理 AI (Deterministic Physical AI)。 “FMCW 通过多普勒频移直接提供速度这一物理测量值，而飞行时间(ToF)技术则需要跨帧进行计算推导”。 也许你可以帮忙阐述一下 $OUST 的细微差别，以及为什么你认为它是更好的 4D AI 投资标的。
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Apparently $OUST sits more in “Probabilistic AI”while $AEVA FMCW solves the Deterministic Physical AI that word models need “FMCW gives velocity as a direct physical measurement (Doppler shift) versus ToF requiring computational derivation across frames”. Maybe you can help articulate the nuance with $OUST and why you think it’s better exposure to 4D AI
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看好4D AI趋势，建仓$AEVA作为中游瓶颈的投机性敞口。
说到像 $AXTI 这样的其他瓶颈环节。 我一直在研究 4D AI。 与行业内部人士的交谈让我相信，继 $NVDA 黄仁勋的会议后，物理 AI 和人形机器人的“世界模型(World Models)”是一个即将到来的趋势。 因此我建仓了从事 4D 激光雷达(4D LiDAR)的 $AEVA。 根据我的研究，这看起来是该趋势中最清晰的功能性中游瓶颈敞口？ 除非有人想提及其他标的。 还有像 $AMBA、$U（是的，是游戏软件）、$TER 和 $OUST 这样的公司，但它们体量较大，且敞口不够清晰。 话虽如此，这仍是一个新领域，所以我仍在进行研究。此外，基本面尚不稳定，因此这更多是对行业增长的创投型押注。 披露：我仅持有 $AEVA 的多头头寸，作为对 4D AI 及物理 AI 世界模型的投机性敞口。
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Speaking of other bottlenecks like $AXTI. I’ve been looking into 4D AI. Convos with industry insiders leads me to believe it’s an upcoming trend eg. “World Models” for physical AI and humanoids post $NVDA Jensen’s conference. So took positions into $AEVA which is 4D LiDAR. Looks like the clearest functional midstream bottleneck exposure to the trend, from my research? Unless someone has others they’d like to mention. There’s stuff like $AMBA, $U (yes the games software), $TER, and $OUST but they’re larger companies without the clearest exposure. That being said it’s still a new space so still doing research. Also, fundamentals are shaky, so this is more of a venture bet for the industry growth. Disclosure: I have long shares only of $AEVA, as speculative exposure to 4D AI + World Models for physical AI.