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只是举了一个机器人供应链的例子。
@RonDeSantis 这只是机器人供应链的一个例子：
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@RonDeSantis This is just one example for the robotics supply chain: https://t.co/ALmJSwnZ4L
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整理Mirae Asset的CPO价值链全图，涵盖激光源到EDA各环节上市公司
来自Mirae Asset的CPO价值链概览： 激光源： Coherent < $COHR > Lumentum < $LITE > Furukawa Electric (TYO: 5801) Yuanjie Semiconductor (SHA: 688498) Innolight Technology / 中际旭创 (SZSE: 300308) PIC代工： TSMC < $TSM > GlobalFoundries $GFS Samsung Electronics (KRX: 005930) Tower Semiconductor < $TSEM > EIC、驱动IC： Broadcom < $AVGO > Marvell < $MRVL > NVIDIA < $NVDA > ELS、光引擎： Innolight / 中际旭创 (SZSE: 300308) TFC / 苏州天孚光通信 (SZSE: 300394) O-Net Technologies Eoptolink Technology (SZSE: 300502) FAU（光纤阵列单元）： Senko Advanced Components（私企） Sumitomo Electric (TYO: 5802) TFC (SZSE: 300394) FOCI Fiber Optic Communications (TWO: 3363) FAU、对准工具： ficonTEC（私企） All Ring Tech (TWO: 6187) ADST（私企） FAU、引擎组装： Fabrinet < $FN > Hon Hai / Foxconn (TWSE: 2317) ASE Technology < $ASX > FOCI (TWO: 3363) OSAT、先进封装： ASE Technology < $ASX > Amkor < $AMKR > Kyocera (TYO: 6971) Powertech / PTI (TWSE: 6239) Shinko Electric (TYO: 6967) Fabrinet < $FN > 连接器、套管： Senko Advanced Components（私企） Sumitomo Electric (TYO: 5802) US Conec（私企） T&S Communications (SZSE: 300570) Molex（私企） Browave (TWO: 3163) 光纤： Corning < $GLW > Sumitomo Electric (TYO: 5802) Nittobo / 日东纺绩 (TYO: 3110) 电/光测试： Keysight < $KEYS > Teradyne < $TER > FormFactor < $FORM > Chroma ATE (TWSE: 2360) Multilane（私企） 交换、系统： NVIDIA < $NVDA > Broadcom < $AVGO > Marvell < $MRVL > Google < $GOOGL > EDA： Synopsys < $SNPS > Cadence < $CDNS > Ansys < $ANSS > 对这些名单中的一些名称感到困惑，他们可能混淆了一些公司，比如把Innolight和激光源公司（如$MTSI、Sumitomo、$SIVE、Luxnet）与实际终端模块混在一起了（除非有什么非公开材料或者我遗漏了）。 但对于对这个领域感兴趣的人来说，这是一个很好的高层概览。 （该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）: CPO领域Mirae分析师笔记： 规模化方向： CPO ASIC：$AVGO、$MRVL 光收发器：$COHR、$LITE、中际旭创 DSP/PAM4：$AVGO、$MRVL 相干DCI：$CIEN、$NOK OCS设备：iPronics、Polatis 光缆/光纤：$GLW、Prysmian、Furukawa HCF：$LITE、OFS DCI相干：Ciena、Nokia、Huawei 光放大器：$LITE、$COHR OCS网关：KDDI 规模提升方向： SiPh代工：imec、$GFS、$TSM SiPh调制器：$NVDA（内部MRM）、$INTC ELS：NTT、Furukawa、$LITE、$COHR 太赫兹互连：研发阶段？ CPO测试："新玩家进入增加" 微透镜/光学系统："新玩家进入增加" TLDR：规模提升的CPO即将到来。我认为分析师笔记遗漏了一堆上游公司名称，并把ELS和光源混为一谈了。 但对于了解他们认为谁是领先玩家来说，这是个很好的高层概览。
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CPO Value Chain Summary from Mirae Asset: Laser Source: Coherent < $COHR > Lumentum < $LITE > Furukawa Electric (TYO: 5801) Yuanjie Semiconductor (SHA: 688498) Innolight Technology / Zhongji Innolight (SZSE: 300308) PIC Foundry: TSMC < $TSM > GlobalFoundries $GFS Samsung Electronics (KRX: 005930) Tower Semiconductor < $TSEM> EIC, Driver IC: Broadcom < $AVGO > Marvell < $MRVL > NVIDIA < $NVDA > ELS, Optical Engine Innolight / Zhongji Innolight (SZSE: 300308) TFC / Suzhou TFC Optical Communication (SZSE: 300394) O-Net Technologies Eoptolink Technology (SZSE: 300502) FAU (Fiber Array Unit): Senko Advanced Components (Private) Sumitomo Electric (TYO: 5802) TFC (SZSE: 300394) FOCI Fiber Optic Communications (TWO: 3363) FAU, Align Tools: ficonTEC (Private) All Ring Tech (TWO: 6187) ADST (Private) FAU, Engine Assembly: Fabrinet < $FN > Hon Hai / Foxconn (TWSE: 2317) ASE Technology < $ASX > FOCI (TWO: 3363) OSAT, Advanced Packaging: ASE Technology < $ASX > Amkor < $AMKR > Kyocera (TYO: 6971) Powertech / PTI (TWSE: 6239) Shinko Electric (TYO: 6967) Fabrinet < $FN > Connector, Ferrule: Senko Advanced Components (Private) Sumitomo Electric (TYO: 5802) US Conec (Private) T&S Communications (SZSE: 300570) Molex (Private) Browave (TWO: 3163) Fiber: Corning < $GLW > Sumitomo Electric (TYO: 5802) Nittobo / Nitto Boseki (TYO: 3110) E/O Testing: Keysight < $KEYS > Teradyne < $TER > FormFactor < $FORM > Chroma ATE (TWSE: 2360) Multilane (Private) Switch, System: NVIDIA < $NVDA > Broadcom < $AVGO > Marvell < $MRVL > Google < $GOOGL> EDA: Synopsys < $SNPS > Cadence < $CDNS > Ansys < $ANSS > Confused by some of names of the list, they might have conflated a few names like Innolight with laser source like $MTSI, Sumitomo, $SIVE, Luxnet, with the actual end module (unless there's something that's not public material or I missed)? But just for people interested in the landscape, this is a good high-level overview.
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AI数据中心供应链严重依赖亚洲，中东冲突加剧流动性风险，稀土应成美国国安优先事项
Hi Ron，这个话题分为两个不同的部分： 1. 超大规模云服务商（$ORCL、$META、$AMZN）：他们的支出超过了盈利水平（$GOOGL 是罕见的例外，而 $AAPL 相对而言支出并不多）。 因此市场担心这并没有转化为实质性的收入。 尤其是像 Oracle 这样负债累累的公司，降息是使其稍微可持续的重要因素（如果你看债务利息，数目非常庞大），而降息既能推动产能扩张，也能带来实质性的成本节省。 由于伊朗战争和原油价格上涨，原定2026年的降息预期已经落空。 雪上加霜的是，人们担心他们的 AI 数据中心建设供应链会中断。 如果你看看他们的 AI 数据中心部件产地： - 来自台湾 - 来自韩国 - 来自日本 这是一个全球化的供应链。 虽然美国看起来没问题，因为它在石油、液化天然气、氦气和其他半导体供应链所需的资源方面是绝缘的。 但我们的亚洲合作伙伴并不处于长期冲突中。 所以当你看到亚洲那些规模较小、专业化的公司时，它们正在苦苦挣扎。 这种影响会层层放大，一直传导到终端的亚马逊网络服务 AI 数据中心（成本上升、供应短缺）。 2. AI 整体而言：投资者对此非常乐观。 问题在于实现路径，而美国在表面上看起来被中国卡住了。 - 美国投入过多，而中国和其他国家正在蒸馏我们的最新模型（需要 KYC 端点管控），坐享其成。 - 随着 AI 项目的规模扩大，它正变得越来越依赖中国公司。 我认为这是因为美国缺乏稀土，这应该成为我们的头号国家安全优先事项。 这是制造新一代 AI 硬件、机器人供应链和太空探索所需的。 这些资源都由中国和俄罗斯控制。即使是领先的"西方"公司，我已发现它们仍然主要依赖中国/俄罗斯。 这是我们确保前沿项目安全最大的漏洞之一。 如果你看光子学（AI 硬件如何通过光加速），我们没有西方的供应链来满足需求。主要材料来源是中国的 $AXTI 和中国的 Vital 两家公司，然后流转到日本或其他公司，最后进入美国。 如果你看我们的人形机器人项目（我们如何将 AI 带入现实世界），$TSLA Optimus 的所有躯体都是在中国制造的。 美国供应链缺乏制造这些组件所需的稀土，因为成本太高。 3. 中东地区的冲突 近期下跌的一个重要原因是流动性问题。我们在阿联酋、中东的合作伙伴主要在为私募市场提供资金（想想 OpenAI），他们大量的支出流向 AI 市场。 他们也是从 Meta 到微软等科技七巨头最大的投资者之一。 如果他们的油田继续受到干扰，他们可能不得不从美国市场撤出流动性。 这既影响这些公司在 AI 上的支出能力，也会导致美国市场的抛售下跌。 如果有takeaway（要点）的话：请把稀土列为美国头号国家安全优先事项。特朗普总统已经投资了 $USAR、$MP 和几个单独的公司。 但还有许多更多至关重要的、尚未盈利的公司，它们对于制造 AI、自动驾驶汽车和机器人都是必需的。我们需要打破对中国/俄罗斯的依赖。
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Hi Ron, so there's two different parts to it: 1. Hyperscalers ( $ORCL, $META, $AMZN): They're spending more than they have with profit ( $GOOGL is the rare exception, and $AAPL isn't really spending much relatively). So markets are worried less worried it's translating into material revenue. Especially with companies like Oracle taking on immense amounts of debt, rate cuts were a large driving factor in why it's slightly more sustainable (if you look at debt interest, it's massive), and cutting rates drives both forward expansion and material amounts of savings. Due to the War in Iran, rising crude, former projections with cutting rates in 2026 are now gone. This is compounded that there are worries that their AI buildout supply chain gets disrupted. If you look at where their AI datacenter parts are made: - it comes from Taiwan - it comes from Korea - it comes from Japan It's global. While the US might look like it's fine, since it's insulated to Oil, LNG, helium, and others needed for the semiconductor supply chain. Our Asian partners are not in a long drawn out conflict. So when you look at companies in Asia that are more small and niche they are struggling. And this gets compounded tens of times until it reaches all the way down to the end Amazon Web Services AI datacenter (increased costs, lack of supply). 2. AI as a whole: Investors are very bullish on it. It's just how we get there, and America looks strangled by China optically. - America is spending way too much on it, with China and others distilling our latest models (need KYC endpoints), and reaping all the benefits. - As we scale our AI programs, it's becoming increasingly reliant on Chinese companies. I'd argue it's because America lacks the rare earths, which should be our #1 national security priority. This is needed to make new generations of AI hardware, robotic supply chains, and Space. They're all controlled by China and Russia. Even the leading "Western" companies, I've identified they're mainly relying on China/Russia still. And this is one of the biggest vulnerabilities in securing our frontier programs. If you look at photonics (how AI hardware is sped up by light), we no Western supply chain to fulfill our needs. It's $AXTI (in China), and Vital (in China) as the two main sources of materials needed to make them, that gets passed down to Japan, or other companies before they end up in US. If you look at our humanoid program (how we move AI to the real world), all the bodies of $TSLA Optimus are made in China. American supply chains lack the rare earths needed to make the components because it gets too expensive. 3. Disruption in the Middle East A large part of the recent drop is mainly due to liquidity. Our partners in the UAE, Middle East are largely funding private markets (think OpenAI) and a lot of their spend going to AI markets. They're also one of the biggest investors in Mag7 from Meta to Microsoft. If their oil fields continue getting disrupted they may have to pull out liquidity from US markets. This impacts both the amount of money these companies can spend on AI. As well as causing a drop in American markets from selling. If there's any takeway: Please make Rare Earths Amercia's #1 national security priority. President Trump already invested in $USAR, $MP, and a few individual names. But there are many more extremely critical, yet unprofitable companies that are needed to make AI, to self driving cars, to robotics. And we need to break our reliance on China / Russia.
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指出 IREN 的稀释压力远高于 Nebius。
你们觉得 $IREN 还要再摊 56.5 亿美元的稀释吗？ 如果你看多 Neocloud，真的很意外还有人没转去 $NBIS 或其他名字。 一个已经确认拿到 $NVDA 资金和机构可转债支持。 另一个则很可能在通过公开市场持续卖新股，从散户身上筹钱。 残酷的现实是： $IREN 根本无法在不靠这个的情况下把剩余产能变现。这不是“可选性”。 在挑选谁能带来股权升值时，财务结构的细微差别非常重要。 Nebius 的融资结构明显更好，这一点已经反映在年初至今的回报里了。
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Do you guys think there’s only $5,650,000,000 dilution to go with $IREN? Very surprising that people haven’t switched to $NBIS or other names if you’re long Neoclouds. One already has confirmed funding with $NVDA + convertibles from institutions. The other is likely actively selling new shares on the open market to get funding off retail shareholders. The sad reality is: $IREN simply cannot monetize the rest of their capacity without using that. It’s not “optionality”. Financial structure nuance matters when you’re choosing winners for equity appreciation. Nebius is clearly has the better financing structure and this is already showing up in YTD returns.
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说自己现在过得不太好。
@tcjimmyli 现在情况没那么好了。
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@tcjimmyli Not doing so well anymore https://t.co/oWiYp6c4bg
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简单回复叫对方哭。
@Ren_aramb 哭？
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@Ren_aramb cry?
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提醒市场很残酷，不要在地缘风险下过度加杠杆。
这市场太残酷了。 如果你的股票名字里没有 Win，比如某只晶圆代工…… 那大概率宏观因素会比个股基本面更重要，比如 $MU 和 $META。 只是提醒一下，这时候不要上杠杆，也不要不负责任地过度加仓。 尤其是如果有限地面入侵随时可能开始……这可能意味着冲突延长和供应链进一步受扰。
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This market is brutal. If your stock doesn’t have Win in its name like a certain foundry… More likely than not macro > individual stock fundamentals from $MU and $META. Just a good reminder not to margin or irresponsibly overleverage during this time. Especially as a limited ground invasion might begin anytime… this might foreshadow extended conflicts and potential supply chain disruption.
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说这是宏观和板块一起下跌。
@moxnq100 @AntonisProtop 两者都有，既是宏观下跌，也是板块回调。
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@moxnq100 @AntonisProtop It’s both macro and sector selloff.
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调侃如果不了解 AXTI，就说明你还没经历过它的大回撤。
@AntonisProtop 如果你以前没经历过 $AXTI 的 15-25% 日内回撤，你大概就是新来的。
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@AntonisProtop You must be new here with $AXTI if you haven’t experienced 15-25% daily drawdowns
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说 VCX 的走势已经验证了自己的判断。
嗯，这走势现在看起来真是验证了我的判断。 $VCX 在 4 天里从 425 -> 110 美元。 我想大多数人其实都预料到了……但我不太懂为什么散户会以为 SpaceX 在高点时值 34 万亿美元。
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Well this is aging well with $VCX. From $425 -> $110 in 4 days. Think majority of people expected it… but not sure why retail investors thought SpaceX should be valued at $34 trillion at the top. https://t.co/JHURpLJmmq
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认为即使大盘再跌，AAOI 也可能跑赢。
@Ungrate11057544 就算 $SPY、$MSFT、$AMZN 再跌 20%，我也还是觉得 $AAOI 会跑赢市场。
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@Ungrate11057544 Let's just say even if $SPY, $MSFT, $AMZN crashes another 20% I expect $AAOI to outperform the market.
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称自己刚在 84 美元附近买了 AAOI，觉得 66 亿市值太便宜。
@mi20483980476 我刚刚在大概 84 美元附近买了不少 $AAOI。对我来说，66 亿美元市值实在太便宜了，尤其是在他们有新的 5 亿美元战备资金的情况下。
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@mi20483980476 I personally bought a decent amount of $AAOI at ~$84 just now, $6.6B MC feels way too cheap for me, especially with their new $500m warchest.
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认为 AAOI 在宏观不利时也能跑赢，因供给瓶颈和客户会付费。
我其实对大盘是看空的。 不过像 $AAOI 这种个股，我觉得即使宏观环境不好也会跑赢。 如果大家都缺货——即便超大规模客户削减 capex，你在瓶颈环节里还是会遇到同样的问题。 而且光收发器在 BOM 里的占比其实不算其他东西那么高，比如内存，所以他们会愿意付钱。 一句话总结就是挺复杂，但我个人确实觉得 $AAOI 会跑赢宏观环境。
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I'm actually bearish on the market. However, there's some individual stocks like $AAOI that I expect to outperform despite macro climate. If you're sold out because nobody can make enough... even if hyperscalers cut back capex, you have the same problem in the bottleneck. Also BOM share of optical transceivers is actually not that much compared to others like memory, so they'd happily pay. TLDR pretty nuanced, but I do think $AAOI outpetforms macro climate personally.
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简单表示不是这样。
@peakybulls 绝对不是。它们只是更容易把波动放大。
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@peakybulls Definitely no. They just tend to add to the volatility.
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不喜欢 Jane Street 持有和自己一样的 AAOI，因为他们会放大波动。
这就是为什么我不喜欢 Jane Street 持有和我一样的 $AAOI。 他们是做波动交易的，尤其喜欢搞散户最爱的名字，然后触发止损和恐慌。 但如果你知道自己持有什么： 一家美国公司，6.69 十亿美元市值，做的是整条收发器供应链： 从激光 -> 设计 -> 组装。 如果 $MSFT、$AMZN、$ORCL 这些公司真的会把他们能买的都买了，那对我个人来说，这个价格简直是捡漏。 对高 beta 股票来说，入场前把 conviction 和仓位管理好特别重要。 否则你就会一遍又一遍地在底部割肉、在顶部追高。
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And... this is why I don't like Jane Street owning the same stocks I do like $AAOI. They trade volatility, especially with retail favorite names and trigger stop losses/panic. If you know what you own though: $6.69B for a US company that makes the entire transceiver supply chain: From Laser -> Design -> Assembly. With likely $MSFT, $AMZN, $ORCL buying anything they can make, is a steal for me personally. With high beta stocks, it's really important to build conviction and manage sizing correctly before entering a trade. Otherwise you'll end up capitulating the bottom and buying the top over and over.
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认为稀土对国家安全至关重要，媒体不该煽动公众反对。
是的，$MP 对国家安全至关重要。中国再次把稀土武器化来对付我们。 FT 和其他新闻媒体去煽动美国民众……这真是蠢到不行。 美国政府花钱去保障我们的供应链，让我们不再依赖俄罗斯和中国，这有什么问题吗？ 他们到底是不是傻？
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Yes $MP is paramount to national security. Again China has weaponized Rare Earths against us. It’s incredibly stupid for FT and other news outlets to go and get rile up the US population… At the US government spending to secure our supply chains??? So we don’t rely on Russia and China? Are they all stupid?
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批评 FT 对稀土投资的负面标题，认为这是正确的政策方向。
这是我看过 FT 最离谱的一条标题。 “美国在稀土交易中押注数十亿美元于未经验证的公司” 废话。 它们之所以“未经验证”，不就是因为我们什么都没有吗？ $USAR 到 $MP 都极其重要。 因为美国在 AI、机器人到太空所需的上游产能 / 炼厂上几乎什么都不拥有。我们依赖从加拿大到中国的其他国家。 这大概是特朗普政府最好的国内政策动作：资助这些没有盈利的项目。 目的就是确保美国供应链主权，而不是继续依赖俄罗斯和中国。 FT 这么写，感觉就是在故意激美国民众…… 他们明明是在通过措辞，抹黑那些真正能帮助美国独立的伟大努力。
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This is the most egregious headline I’ve read from FT. “US BETS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON UNPROVEN GROUPS IN RARE EARTHS DEALS” No sht. Maybe they’re “unproven” since we have nothing?? $USAR to $MP are incredibly important. Since US rare earths supply is the #1 national security priority right now. The United States owns almost none of the upstream capacity/refineries for AI, Robotics, to Space, as we rely on other countries from Canada to China. This is probably the best domestic policy move from the Trump administration to fund these unprofitable efforts. In order to secure US supply chain sovereignty instead of relying on Russia and China? It’s almost like FT is trying to make the US public mad… At genuinely great efforts to secure American’s independence by how they word these articles.
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认为 MRVL 是长期好票，但 SIVE 作为瓶颈环节会对其增长造成威胁。
@StocksAREnuts $MRVL 确实是一只很好的长期多头。 我只是想分享一下：某个竞争对手如果想卡住它的增长垂直业务线，只需要花 3.5 亿美元买下 $SIVE 这种级别的公司就行。
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@StocksAREnuts $MRVL is a really good long term long. I’m just sharing thought about how a competitor could potentially chokepoint their growth verticals for a rounding error of $350m with $SIVE
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希望 SIVE 保持独立，担心被竞争对手低价买下。
@Matrix_B0SS 我其实希望 $SIVE 保持独立。 只是随手写了些洗澡时冒出来的想法，觉得另一家超大客户或竞争对手可能会用区区 3.5 亿美元就控制 $MRVL 的近端光子项目。
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@Matrix_B0SS I actually hope $SIVE remains independent. Just posting some shower thoughts about how another hyperscaler or competitor could control $MRVL near term photonics program for a cheap price of $350m.
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认为 SIVE 可能被多方盯上，也可能因持股结构保持独立。
洗澡时冒出来的一个想法…… SIVE 现在可能已经被 $QCOM、$MRVL、$AVGO、AlChip、联发科、$AMZN、$META、$MSFT 的风投部门盯上了？ 既然现在大家都公开知道了，Broadcom 只要花 3.5 亿美元就能买下 Marvell 在光子学上的咽喉点（Amazon / Microsoft 的 ASIC 项目）…… 或者 Qualcomm 也可以用同样的方式收购 $SIVE，然后在收购 Alphawave 之后把激光 IP 做垂直整合。 又或者……超大规模客户会通过持有足够多股份，想办法让 $SIVE 继续保持独立？
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It’s funny a shower thought… Probably put $SIVE on the radar for $QCOM, $MRVL, $AVGO, AlChip, Mediatek, $AMZN, $META, $MSFT venture arms now? Since everyone publicly knows now Broadcom can just go and buy Marvell’s photonics chokepoint vulnerability (Amazon/Microsoft ASIC programs) for a rounding error of $350m… Or Qualcomm can do the same buying $SIVE then vertically integrate laser IP after Alphawave aquisition. Or maybe… hyperscalers figure out a way $SIVE remains independent by owning enough shares?
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把 7n 高纯铟视作 InP 衬底的一个代理信号。
@ParadisLabs 7n 高纯未标准铟，在 SMM 上是 InP 衬底的一个不错代理指标。 不过对 CPO 放量来说，这件事复杂得多，我会看更多其他信号。
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@ParadisLabs 7n indium high purity nonstandard on SMM is a good proxy derivative for InP substrates. However, it’s much more multifaceted for CPO ramp and I’d look for other signals
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只是分享想法，猜测 Marvell 的 CPO 供应链会不会被竞争对手收购卡脖子。
@Jornka329996 我只是分享一下洗澡时的想法，不知道人们或者市场会怎么反应。 也许 $MRVL 的风投方更愿意让他们的 CPO 供应链卡口被 $AVGO 或 AlChip 这样的竞争对手收购和控制？
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@Jornka329996 I’m just sharing my shower thoughts, don’t know how anyone or markets react. Maybe $MRVL ventures prefers their CPO supply chain chokepoint to be bought out and controlled by competitors like $AVGO or Alchip?
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认为 Marvell 也许可以用很小成本持有 SIVE 一部分。
@PerDahlstrm $MRVL 其实只要花 3000 万美元买下 $SIVE 的 10% 到 20%，就能把他们十亿美元级别的 CPO 项目稳住。
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@PerDahlstrm $MRVL can just buy 10-20% of $SIVE for $30m and secure their billion dollar CPO program
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认为 SIVE 不太可能被 ARM 并购。
@VJNCapital 不会。$SIVE Photonics 作为上游光学组件供应商规模太小了，所以大概率会被放行。 $ARM 的体量则太大，会引发反垄断问题。
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@VJNCapital Nope. $SIVE photonics is too small as an upstream optical component supplier so would likely pass. $ARM would raise antitrust due to size.
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Sivers作为稀缺独立cw激光供应商，战略价值远超当前市值估值。
我个人看到 $SIVE 下跌风险较小的原因： 像 $AVGO 这样 $MRVL 的竞争对手可以直接收购 Sivers，从而控制其近中期光子学路线图... 估值约 2.9 亿美元... 如果再便宜一点的话。 Gemini 的回应很有趣： "像 Broadcom 这样以约 2.9 亿美元收购 Sivers Photonics 来扼制 Marvell 新收购的 Celestial AI 路线图不仅仅是战略行为； 这是一场投资回报率高得离谱的供应链战争。" "花点小钱，竞争对手就能控制上游光源，把握直接的 IP 路线图，并让试图整合 Celestial AI 的 Marvell 付出数十亿美元的机会成本。" 对于 $MSFT, AlChip, $MRVL, $AMZN 等超大规模云服务商来说，投资 Sivers 来确保其共封装光学(CPO)供应链可能比让它被竞争对手收购更有利。 就像 $QLCM 与 Alphawave 针对 OpenLight 生态所做的操作一样。 我的观点是：$SIVE 作为全球少数保持独立运营的 cw 激光器供应商之一的关键瓶颈地位... 其固有的价值远超其市值。 对冲基金因「MC」和瑞典交易所上市限制无法投资从而压低估值... 对于收购方或散户投资者来说反而是一种因祸得福。
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The reason I personally see less downside risk with $SIVE: A competitor to $MRVL like $AVGO can just buy Sivers outright and their near-medium term photonics roadmap… At ~$290m… if it gets any cheaper. Gemini responses were interesting: “ A competitor like Broadcom buying Sivers Photonics for ~$290M to choke Marvell’s newly acquired Celestial AI roadmap isn't just strategic; It is supply chain warfare with an absurdly high ROI. “ “ For pocket change, a competitor could buy the upstream light source, control the immediate IP roadmap, and inflict billions of dollars worth of opportunity cost on Marvell right as they try to integrate Celestial AI “ It’s likely better for hyperscalers like $MSFT, AlChip, $MRVL, $AMZN to invest in Sivers to secure their CPO supply chain then have it being bought out by one of their competitors. Like what happened already with $QLCM and Alphawave for OpenLight. My opinion: $SIVE chokepoint as one of the few projects remaining independent cw laser suppliers in the world… Is inherently way more valuable than their marketcap. Hedge funds not being able to invest due to “MC” and Sweden listing to keep valuations depressed… is a blessing in disguise for both acquisitions or retail investors.
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只是在感叹对方发言让自己看不懂。
@maxvoltrader 我刚刚到底看了什么。
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@maxvoltrader what did i just read
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认为当前是选股而不是一起涨跌的市场。
@McLeary_77 总体上我对大盘是看空的。 不过现在确实是个选股市场。
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@McLeary_77 Overall I’m bearish on markets as a whole. However there will be clear individual winners. It’s a stock pickers market right now
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把近期机构轮动理解为 CPO/ELS 上游链条的机会。
尽管指数和巨头都在跌，比如 $META / $MSFT，但市场里依然明显有一些超额收益者。 这大概说明了机构轮动，或者说某个非常强的新兴行业已经在形成。 最明显的就是 CPO / ELS 供应链。 我个人的标的包括： $TSEM / Win Semi - 光子学里的 TSM $AAOI / $SIVE / $COHR / $LITE - 光源 $SOI / $AXTI - 衬底 $IQE - 外延片 当然也有更大的名字，比如 $MRVL、Sumitomo、$AVGO。
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There’s clearly some market outperformers despite index’s and mega caps from $META / $MSFT crashing. This probably signals institutions rotation or an extremely strong up and coming sector. The obvious one is into CPO/ELS supply chains. My personal picks were: $TSEM / Win Semi- TSM of photonics $AAOI / $SIVE / $COHR / $LITE- Light Sources $SOI / $AXTI - Substrates $IQE - Epiwafers But of course there are larger names out there like $MRVL, Sumitomo, $AVGO.
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只有一个支付产品相关的问题。
@elonmusk 把 X money 也做成通用支付吧！ 另外，X money 会不会把第三方平台外支付（比如 PayPay 或 Alipay）也列进路线图里？
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@elonmusk Do the same with X money and make it universal! Also is third party payments with X money outside the platform like PayPay or Alipay on the roadmap?
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只有一个股票代码。
@mi20483980476 $AAOI
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@mi20483980476 $AAOI