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澄清$ORCL与OpenAI合作计划正常,指出彭博报道误导。
@owenli25 新发布的新闻称,$ORCL 与 OpenAI 在“星际之门(Stargate)”项目上的计划仍按原定轨道推进。 看来彭博社(Bloomberg)的报道连续第二天产生了误导。 https://t.co/wRTrJCXkM2
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@owenli25 New news got published saying $ORCL plans with OpenAi remain on track with stargate. Looks like Bloomberg reporting was misleading for a second day in a row https://t.co/wRTrJCXkM2
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AI板块因OpenAI消息大跌,但META介入带来特定个股买入机会。
说实话,彭博社的标题竟然连续第二天导致半导体市场崩盘,这确实令人印象深刻。 $LITE 下跌 14.4% $NVDA 下跌 3.5% $TSM 下跌 4.4%。 消息是 Oracle 和 OpenAI 没有扩大其 Stargate 项目的一部分。 这看起来比昨天的报道更可信,因为 OpenAI 的“传染效应”正在蔓延。 但在文章最底部,他们补充道: $META 将介入并考虑从开发商 Crusoe 那里租赁位于德克萨斯州阿比林的规划扩建场地。 这看起来像是特定个股的买入机会,因为 AI 交易的范围现在已经远远超出了 OpenAI,并且现在由从 $GOOGL 到 $META 的盈利超大规模云服务商提供资金支持。
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It’s honestly impressive Bloomberg titles have managed to crash the Semi Market for a second day in a row. $LITE down 14.4% $NVDA down 3.5% $TSM down 4.4%. On the news that Oracle and OpenAI are not expanding a part of their Stargate project. This looks more legitimate than yesterday’s report as the OpenAI contagion is spreading. At the very bottom, they left added: $META, to step in and consider leasing the planned expansion site in Abilene, Texas, from developer Crusoe. This looks like a buying opportunity for specific names, as the AI trade has expanded far beyond OpenAI now and is now funded by profitable hyperscalers from $GOOGL to $META.
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博主引用推文,讽刺IREN融资申报为共产主义宣传。
@daniel_koss 我最喜欢这一条,它称 $IREN 的 60 亿美元 ATM(自动取款机融资)申报是共产主义宣传。https://t.co/tfVo9AWJZM
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@daniel_koss This one is my favorite for saying the $IREN $6B ATM filing is communist propaganda. https://t.co/tfVo9AWJZM
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建议做多与谷歌有协议的电力股,避免稀释抛压。
@eddyluxe_ 如果存在电力需求,做多与谷歌(Google)有协议的 $WULF 或 $CIFR 可能是更好的主意。 这避免了 60 亿美元的新股稀释,以及在任何反弹中对你不利的抛压。
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@eddyluxe_ If there’s a demand for power, might be a better idea to long $WULF or $CIFR that have agreements with Google. It comes without a $6B new share dilution, and all that selling pressure against you in any rallies.
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批评某人在多只股票中稀释散户,认为其毫无信誉。
@Mr_Derivatives 鉴于他通过 $BKKT、$ASST 以及现在的 $IREN 将散户持仓稀释至零的过往记录,此人已毫无信誉可言。
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@Mr_Derivatives Given his track history of diluting retail to zero with $BKKT, $ASST, and now $IREN, the guy has zero credibility anymore.
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批评IREN社区无视融资风险,警告其陷入AMC式套牢困境。
@MikeFReichmann 如果 $IREN 社区的主要回应是说提及 $60 亿 ATM(自动取款机融资)是苏联资助的共产主义宣传。抱歉地说,你们已经进入了 $AMC 套牢盘(bagholder)的领地。 https://t.co/mK0TwgxArO
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@MikeFReichmann If the $IREN community’s main response is to say mentioning the $6B ATM is communist propaganda paid off by the Soviet Union. Sorry to say you’re in $AMC bagholderterritory. https://t.co/mK0TwgxArO
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警告IREN面临向散户抛售压力,建议寻找其他长期机会。
现实是,$IREN 将无法找到其他融资方式,因此必须向散户持有者抛售这些股份进入公开市场。如果你在他们特意提交60亿美元自动取款机(ATM)增发计划以向公开市场抛售之后,还到了“只是信任 $IREN 管理层不会抛售”的地步。那里有更好的长期机会。
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The reality is that $IREN will need to sell tjose shares into the open market against retail holders since they couldn’t find other financing methods. If you‘ve gotten to the point of “just trusting in $IREN management to not sell” after they went out of their way to file a $6 Billion ATM to sell into the open market. There’s better long opportunities out there.
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澄清未做空IREN,批评其回避ATM稀释问题
@Sandeman52 如果他们选择攻击个人品格,而不是谈论在公开市场上出售的60亿美元自动取款机(ATM)稀释这一残酷而诚实的现实,这将说明很多问题。 我实际上并没有做空 $IREN,我没有持仓或经济利益。 只是陈述显而易见的事实
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@Sandeman52 It will speak volumes if they go after character instead of talking about the brutally honest reality of the $6B ATM dilution that gets sold on the open market. I actually am not short $IREN, I have no positions or economic interest. Just stating the obvious
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因巨额稀释及风险收益失衡,作者看空 $IREN 并推荐 $CIFR 和 $NBIS。
我看不到任何持有 $IREN 的 compelling case(有力理由)。 尤其是考虑到在 $128亿市值下新增 $60亿的股票稀释。 人们可能会看到市值膨胀至 $200-$250亿。 但他们的股份价值会随时间递减。 风险收益比已经不再存在。 像 $CIFR 这样的公司,通过 Fluidstack 为 $AMZN 和 $GOOGL 提供 Colo(数据中心托管)模式,提供了更具非对称性的上行空间。 而像 $NBIS 这样的公司则提供更好的多元化(Robotaxis(自动驾驶出租车)、ClickHouse),执行风险更低,且资本支出得到良好支持。 对于 $IREN,无法合理化接近市值一半的稀释并为此欢呼。 即使有新的 Hyperscaler(超大规模云服务商)交易,风险收益比也不存在。 我去年对 $IREN 看多,但已卖出。持有者经历了从: -> 3GW 容量,轻资产,Colo 模式(我曾看好) -> 为 $MSFT 购买 GPU 并为其转型的执行风险欢呼(我不看好) 到 -> 为 $60亿新股稀释欢呼,并在公开市场上被反向抛售。(AMC 接盘者领地) 如果你努力证明新的 ~50% 稀释是好事,且在你持仓被抛售时信任管理层: 抱歉告诉你,你现在加入了数据中心领域的 $AMC 等价俱乐部。 市场上有更好的多头标的。
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I see zero compelling case to hold $IREN. Especially given the new $6B share dilution at a $12.8B marketcap. People will likely see that marketcap inflate to $20-$25B. But the value of their shares decrease over time. The risk reward is just not there anymore. Companies like $CIFR offer much more asymmetrical upside given their colo model for $AMZN and $GOOGL through Fluidstack. And companies like $NBIS offer much better diversification (robotaxis, clickhouse), derisked execution, and are well supported for capex. With $IREN, there’s no way to justify being diluted close to half the market cap and cheering that on. Even with a new hyperscaler deal there’s risk reward is just not there. I was bullish $IREN last year but sold it. As holders went from: -> 3GW capacity, asset lite, Colo model (was a fan of this) -> Buying GPUs for $MSFT and cheering on execution risks from the pivot (not a fan) Into -> Cheering on $6B of new share dilution + getting sold on the open market against their positions. (AMC bagholder territory) If you’re trying hard to justify why new ~50% dilution is a good thing sold against your positions and trusting in management: Sorry to tell you, that you’re now in the $AMC equivalent club for datacenters. There are much better longs out there.
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Reddit AI 分成占比低,核心价值在于流行文化与人类互动数据。
$RDDT 来自 AI 收入分成(AI revenue sharing)的收入为 3600 万美元,占总收入 7.26 亿美元。即使你认为其数据质量很差,Reddit 也不依赖授权协议。但我认为,从 Reddit 数据集进行 AI 训练的主要好处在于流行文化/实时事件以及学习人类相关的互动。
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$RDDT revenue from AI revenue sharing was $36M out of $726M. Even if you think their data quality was bad, Reddit is not dependent on licensing deals. But I’d argue most of the benefit from AI training off Reddit datasets is pop culture/live events and learning human related interactions.
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Reddit用户粘性极低,用户更倾向使用ChatGPT而非其平台。
@AirExpel 如果你想玩文字游戏,那确实不是绝对的零。但接近那个数字。 人们不会像用 Quora 那样使用 $RDDT。 如果你想和 ChatGPT 讨论超级碗的比赛结果,那你得是个最大的输家。
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@AirExpel If you want to play semantics it’s not literally zero. But close to that. People don’t use $RDDT like Quora. You’ve gotta be the biggest loser if you want to talk to ChatGPT about the results of the Super Bowl game
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提醒关注RDDT基本面而非仅看图表
@LivingITMoney 你难道不知道 $RDDT 在首次公开募股(IPO) 时的财年营收约为 8.03 亿美元,且当时处于亏损状态吗? 请关注现有的基本面 + 未来增长,而不仅仅是看图表。
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@LivingITMoney You do realize $RDDT FY revenue around IPO was $803m and they were unprofitable? Look at existing fundamentals + forward growth, not just the chart.
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Reddit基本面强劲且未受AI冲击,当前价位极具吸引力。
$RDDT 在 $138 价位可能是最具吸引力的逢低买入机会,市值约 $265 亿。你很难找到比 Reddit 更盈利且高增长的公司了。基于 2025 财年约 $22 亿(同比增长 70%)的收入,其前瞻同比增长率高达 54%。净利润率实际上占收入的 34.7%,且因 Reddit 盈利能力极强而持续扩张。Reddit 常被归入软件板块遭到抛售,但并未受到人工智能(AI)的颠覆。这是一台持久存在的印钞机。价格走势有时会让你怀疑自己的论点,但 Reddit 的基本面极具说服力。
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$RDDT is probably the most compelling dip buy at $138, ~$26.5B MC. You don’t get more profitable + high growth than Reddit. Forward 54% Y/Y growth rate coming off 70% ~$2.2B FY 2025 revenue. Net profit margin is literally 34.7% of revenue and expanding because Reddit is so profitable. Reddit gets sold off with the software bucket but has zero disruption from AI. This is a money printer that is here to stay. Price action makes you doubt your thesis sometimes, but the fundamentals of Reddit are way too compelling.
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博主表示针对该板块做多AEHR。
@thephillydegen 我针对这一板块做多(做多)了 $AEHR。
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@thephillydegen I went long on $AEHR for this segment
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XLU是等待降息与AI推理爆发的两年期长线标的。
@bilbooo__ 是的,$XLU 是一个为期两年的长线布局,等待降息、电网现代化以及推理需求爆发。如果某件事是多年期的……可能要求你等待超过两周。
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@bilbooo__ Yeah $XLU is a 2 year long waiting for rate cut, grid modernization, and inference to take off. If something is a multi-year long... Might require you to wait more than 2 weeks.
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作者认为AAOI因拥有完整供应链且估值远低于同行,即便股价上涨仍具投资价值。
这是我常引用的一个完美例子,说明那些只看“图表”而不看基本面(Fundamentals)的 $AAOI 观察者。我在20多美元时买入,现在90多美元仍在买入,因为根据预测,它比以往任何时候都便宜。如果你预计营收为43.5亿美元,而市值仅为75亿美元,且你拥有从激光晶圆制造(Laser Fab)-> 光收发器设计 -> 美国组装的完整供应链...相比之下,其他同行营收更低,市值却高达400亿-500亿美元以上,那么它还有很长的路要走。
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This is the perfect example I like to cite of the "Chart" spotters that don't look at fundamentals for $AAOI. I was buying it in the 20's, but I'm still buying it in the 90's because it's cheaper than ever given projections. If you're projecting $4.35B in revenue off a $7.5B MC and you own the entire supply chain from laser fab -> transceiver design -> assembly in America... Whereas all your other peers are worth $40B-$50B+ doing less revenue than that, then it has a long way to go.
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作者认为COHR是最安全的光子学股票。
@FairValueHunter 在我看来,$COHR 可能是最安全的光子学(Coherent)标的。
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@FairValueHunter $COHR is probably the safest photonics name imo.
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看好$AAOI美国制造优势,认为其将超越$LITE并获超大规模云厂商青睐。
我们已经起飞……尽管更广泛的光子学板块下跌,$AAOI 仍上涨 11.26%。 每个人都在寻找下一个从 49 美元涨到 614 美元的 $LITE。 有时候,它可能就坐在你面前? 高确信度做多:$AAOI。 我真心认为这很容易在明年实现 3 倍增长。 英伟达资助了 $COHR,后者在马来西亚进行 800G/1.6T 的制造。 $LITE 在泰国使用 $FN 进行量产,并在泰国拥有自己的制造设施。 我会不断强调这一点,但 Applied Optoelectronics 是唯一纯正的“美国制造”光收发器标的。 再次重申,两家“美国”光公司将其外包给亚洲,而 $AAOI 多年来一直在德克萨斯州建设产能和晶圆厂。 英伟达刚刚资助了 $COHR 和 $LITE 以建立美国版本,以隔离其最关键供应链的地缘政治风险。 但猜猜谁已经建立了供应链设置,在这方面领先数年?$AAOI。 $LITE(市值 550 亿美元)2026 财年预估约 29.1 亿美元。 $AAOI(市值 71 亿美元)2027 年下半年:43.5 亿美元 ARR(年度经常性收入)。 如果管理层执行到位(且拥有约 40% 的毛利率),$AAOI 实际上将超越 $LITE 2026 财年的预测。 再说一次。$AAOI(70 亿美元市值)如果实现其预测,将超越 $LITE(550 亿美元市值)整个 2026 年的收入预测。 亚洲的 $FN,2026 年预测实际上与 AAOI 完全相同。 12.4% 的毛利率带来约 43.9 亿美元收入。而它的市值是 200 亿美元(且毛利率低得多)。 即使 $AAOI 只达到目标的 70%,其估值也很可能大幅重估,远超当前市值。 简而言之:在这些水平上很难看到 $AAOI 的下行风险,尤其是随着 3-4 家超大规模云厂商(可能是 $GOOGL、$MSFT、$AMZN)希望购买其未来几年的所有产能。而且 $GOOGL 不采用共封装光学(CPO) 路线。 $AAOI 在增长方面超越了 $CRDO、$ALAB、$LITE 等,并受益于光子学主题相对于铜缆(前两者)的优势。 只要管理层交付成果,$AAOI 仍然是 1 年期高确信度的非对称性机会。
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We've reached liftoff... $AAOI +11.26% despite the broader photonics names down. Everyone is trying to find the next $LITE that went from $49 to $614. Sometimes, it might just be sitting right in front of you? https://t.co/deBAD017ll
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对比LITE、AAOI和COHR的风险收益特征及配置建议
这取决于你的风险偏好。我非常看好 $LITE,由于它与 $GOOGL 的 TPU 项目紧密绑定,股价很可能继续走高。 鉴于 $AAOI 的市值规模及营收的极端增长潜力,其实现多倍回报的潜力更大,我只是想尝试寻找下一个 $LITE。 我认为 $COHR 可能是最安全的选择,如果我要配置资金并使其成为最大仓位的话。
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Depends on your risk profile. I really, really like $LITE, likely going higher as it's tethered to $GOOGL TPU program. $AAOI just has more potential for multi-x return given MC size and extreme revenue ramp, just wanted to try and find the next $LITE. I do think $COHR is probably the safest, if I were to be parking capital + making it the largest position.
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SHMD虽处关键赛道,但因财务差及严重稀释风险,作者选择回避。
我认为很多 X 用户正确指出了 $SHMD 在玻璃基板等关键领域的角色。但这并不意味着它是一只好股票,因为财务状况不佳,我个人正在回避它(尽管我可能错了)。有 4660 万股新股与认股权证、可转换票据以及早期 1000 万欧元贷款挂钩。它还允许重新出售多达 9500 万股。我不认为他们目前微薄的收入能跑赢稀释效应。也许要等到 2028 年后期。
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I think a lot of people on X got $SHMD right in terms of their critical role for glass substrates/etc. But it doesn't mean it's a great stock due to financials and I'm personally avoiding it (could be wrong though). There's 46.6 million new shares tied to warrants, convertible notes, and an earlier €10M loan. It also permits the resale of up to 95 million shares. I don't think their minor revenues now will outpace dilution. Maybe later in 2028
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POET 下行风险低但需等待 2026 下半年,适合有耐心的投资者。
我发现 $POET 的下行风险很低,因为其市值为 10 亿美元,却持有约 4 亿美元现金。此外,$MRVL 在 2028-2029 年商业化爬坡阶段可能不会将其替换掉。话虽如此,$POET 将在很长一段时间内几乎没有收入,因此我个人认为等到 2026 年下半年可能更好。对于现在就有耐心的投资者来说,等待似乎能带来不错的上行空间。
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I just found $POET to be low downside risk given they're sitting on like $400m cash with a $1B MC. Then $MRVL probably won't swap them out for 2028-2029 commercialization ramp. That being said, will sit on close to $0 revenue for awhile, so I personally found maybe waiting latter half of 2026 is probably better. For others who have the patience now, seems like good upside for the wait.
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分析$POET因$MRVL CPO业务受益逻辑,认为当前估值具备长期风险回报优势。
$MRVL 发布了财报。从电话会议纪要来看: 目标是通过 Celestial 共封装光学(CPO) 收入,在 2028 年实现 5 亿美元年度经常性收入(ARR),2029 年达到 10 亿美元 ARR。 $POET 作为备受散户喜爱的 10 亿美元市值中介层(interposer)股票,是此次产能爬坡(Starlight 光源)的主要受益者。 通常,收入加上库存积压会在制造和发货前约 1200 万至 1800 万美元时开始显现。 -> 大部分订单流可能会在 2027 年下半年开始涌入。 对于物料清单(BOM) 成本,估计占比约为 10-15%(推测)。因此,仅 Celestial 项目可能在 2027 年带来约 5000 万至 7500 万美元收入,2028 年营收可能达到 1 亿至 1.5 亿美元。 最大的风险是客户集中度,如果 $MRVL 想要对其光引擎进行双源采购(dual-source)。 但 $POET 和 Celestial 花了数年时间共同开发这种特定的集成方案,因此现在寻找替代方案很可能会推迟 Marvell 2028 年的商业化时间表。 而且 $POET 的上行空间在于它总能找到更多客户。 鉴于 $POET 近期稀释后依然稳健的现金资产负债表,以及热门行业较高的市销率(P/S) 倍数: 随着人们提前布局 2027 年下半年的收入,可能在 2026 年底看到估值重估(re-rating)。 我认为很多散户通常很擅长发现像 $RKLB 这样的“登月”级标的,但很多时候他们入场太早。我的观点是 $POET 也是如此。 搭乘那些刚刚触及拐点(如 $AAOI 或 $AEHR) 的股票上涨要容易得多。 但无论如何: 在 6.64 美元的价格下,风险/回报比看起来很有吸引力,尤其是拥有通往超大规模云服务商的 Celestial 后门,前提是投资者有耐心等待一年。 我在查看盈利预测时想到了 $POET。
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$MRVL released earnings. From transcript: Targeting $500m ARR 2028, $1B ARR 2029 with Celestial CPO revenue. $POET the $1B retail favorite interposer stock, is the large beneficiary from the ramp (Starlight light source). Usually revenue + stockpiles start to hit ~12M-18M ahead for manufacture and shipment -> lot of the flow will start hitting likely h2 2027. For BOM likely est. 10-15% (speculation). So possibly ~$50-75m 2027, from Celestial alone, and $100m-$150M revenue in 2028. Biggest risk is customer concentration, in the event $MRVL wants to dual-source its light engines. But $POET and Celestial spent years co-developing this specific integration, so a workaround now would likely delay Marvell's 2028 commercialization timelines. And the upside is $POET can always find more customers too. Given $POET's solid cash balance sheet from recent dilution + rich P/S multiples for a hot industry: Probably could see re-rating late 2026 once people frontrun h2 2027 revenue. I think a lot of retail are typically good at finding moonshots like $RKLB, but a lot of times they're too early. My opinion is that it's the same for $POET. It's a lot easier ride up stocks that have just hit that inflection point like $AAOI or $AEHR. But regardless: Risk/reward at $6.64 with a Celestial backdoor to hyperscalers seems promising if people have the patience to wait a year. Just thought about $POET when I went through earning projections.
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市场误读博通CEO言论致光模块大跌,是逢低买入良机。
@PhotonCap 完全同意!市场似乎未能准确把握 $AVGO CEO 关于共封装光学(CPO) 和铜缆寿命延长的微妙语气。今天,由于这种误解,光子学(光半导体) 相关股票普遍大幅下跌,这正是逢低买入(捡拾) 的绝佳时机。
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@PhotonCap 전적으로 동의합니다! 시장이 CPO와 구리선 수명 연장에 대한 $AVGO CEO 발언의 미묘한 뉘앙스를 제대로 파악하지 못한 것 같습니다. 오늘은 이러한 오해로 인해 전반적으로 크게 하락한 포토닉스(광반도체) 관련주들을 줍기(매수하기)에 아주 좋은 타이밍이었습니다.
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警告$IREN巨额稀释带来的长期卖压,质疑其涨至130美元的逻辑。
这60亿美元的稀释对$IREN来说,长期卖压绝对是巨大的。 很多人低估了这种ATM(自动取款机增发)对现有股东是多么恶劣。 如果你相信技术分析(TA)引用的观点,认为$IREN能无视图表,在接近一半流通盘被稀释并随后抛售的情况下,随机涨到130美元,那我就不懂了。
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The $6B dilution is absolutely immense long term selling pressure for $IREN. A lot of people understate how egregious that ATM actually is for existing shareholders. If you believe that TA quoted where $IREN randomly goes to $130 off the chart alone when close to half of their float is diluted and later sold, idk.
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HIMS遭NVO及政府诉讼,减肥药业务受阻,图表分析无效。
$HIMS 遭到 $NVO 和美国政府的疯狂诉讼。减肥化合物药物是其收入增长的主要途径,潜在的诉讼意味着其资产负债表存在危险信号。如果诉讼失败,$HIMS 可能会恢复。该图表本身毫无意义。
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$HIMS got sued to oblivion by $NVO and the US GOV. Compound weight loss drugs was their primary avenue for revenue growth and potential lawsuit means red flags for their balance sheet. If the lawsuit fell through, $HIMS would likely recover. That chart means nothing by itself
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澄清IREN未单日抛售60亿,强调纯技术分析。
@Agrippa_Inv 谁说 $IREN 在一天内卖了 60 亿美元? 这篇帖子完全是关于技术分析(TA)图表作为独立分析,并未包含任何关于基本面、宏观或催化剂的想法。
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@Agrippa_Inv Nobody said $IREN was selling $6B in one day? This whole post was about TA drawers as a standalone without including any thoughts about fundamentals, macro, or catalysts.
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作者曾警告CRCL解禁风险,但当时技术派未予重视。
@cafeaulaitfr 是的,当 $CRCL 处于 140-200 美元区间时,我就曾警告过大家存在大规模的解禁股(share unlock)抛压。但当时很多画技术面(TA)的人似乎并不理解。 https://t.co/d0a3Qdoter
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@cafeaulaitfr Yeah I was warning people back at $140-$200 range on $CRCL that there was a massive share unlock. But a lot of the TA drawers back then didn’t seem to understand. https://t.co/d0a3Qdoter
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AAOI波动剧烈且逢低买入,建议避免使用止损。
@michaelsikand 是的,每次 $AAOI 回调时,它就会被买入。不过该股的波动性(Volatility)确实疯狂,经常会出现从绿色(上涨)状态随机回撤10%的情况,这就是为什么人们不应该使用止损单(Stop Losses)。
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@michaelsikand Yeah anytime it dips, $AAOI just gets bought out. Volatility is crazy with the name though, has -10% random drawdowns into green, which is why people shouldn’t use stop losses.
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重申对RDDT长期看好,认为基本面未变。
@swingtrader003 @CryptoVandelay 对 $RDDT 长期持有高确信度。除了今天大盘整体下跌外,没有任何变化。
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@swingtrader003 @CryptoVandelay High conviction in $RDDT long term. Nothing changed about it other than the market dropping as a whole today
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看好AAOI未来一年风险回报,但需承受高波动。
@Ren_aramb 不错!与同行相比,我认为 $AAOI 在未来一年的风险回报比极具吸引力。只是它的贝塔值(高波动性)非常高,所以需要忍受波动并建立你自己的信念。
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@Ren_aramb Nice! I see $AAOI risk-return extremely promising over the next year compared to other companies. It’s just very high beta so need to stomach the volatility and develop your own conviction.
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$AAOI逆势上涨,因垂直整合供应链且估值远低于同行,潜力巨大。
$AAOI 面临异常强劲的买盘压力。 今天所有主要的光子学(Photonics)概念股都在下跌: $LITE 下跌 -4.74% $COHR 下跌 -8% $AXTI 下跌 -2.5% $IQE 下跌 -20% $FN 下跌 -3.98% 但 $AAOI 是光子学板块中唯一飘红的股票。 当你审视 $AAOI 的“激光器->设计->组装”供应链时,其估值仅为 75 亿美元,存在巨大且纯粹的上涨空间。 相比之下,其亚洲或西方竞争对手的估值均超过 500 亿美元。
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$AAOI has exceptionally strong buying pressure. All major photonics names are down today: $LITE down -4.74% $COHR down -8% $AXTI down -2.5% $IQE down -20%. $FN down -3.98. But $AAOI is the photonics name green. There’s a raw, unadulterated upside when you look at $AAOI laser -> design -> assembly supply chain valued at $7.5B. And compare it to their Asian or Western counterparts all valued at $50B+
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看好$LASR作为定向能武器纯正标的,认为其风险收益比极佳。
@SpilledMocha 我不清楚这会走向何方,我只是想获得定向能武器(Directed Energy Weapons)领域的敞口,发现 $LASR 是纯正标的+已投入运营+规模足够小,使得此处的风险/收益比(Risk/Reward)具有非对称性。
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@SpilledMocha No clue where this heads, I just wanted exposure to energy directed weapons and found $LASR to be pure play + operational + small enough that risk/reward was asymmetrical from here
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LASR 跌 9% 令人意外,原视其为优质对冲标的。
@yoursregarded 我原本认为 $LASR 加上国防板块会是更好的对冲手段,所以今天它下跌 9% 让我感到惊讶。这是许久以来的首个红色交易日(下跌日)。
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@yoursregarded I thought $LASR + defense would have been a better hedge so surprising it dropped 9% today. First red day in awhile
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Baird强烈看好$LASR,称其为唯一纯概念定向能武器股。
$LASR:“独一无二的公司;保持长期持有”。 这是来自 Baird 的极其强烈的措辞。 分析师报告通常不会在给出“跑赢大盘”评级时使用如此强烈的措辞。 然而,这种兴奋感是真实的: 特别是本周发布了 Iron Beam($LASR 的知名供应商)运行中的实时视频,展示了其激光拦截 incoming missiles( incoming 导弹)的能力。 并且随着美国“金穹顶”项目带来的潜在市场规模(TAM)即将扩张。 $LASR 是唯一公开交易的美国定向能武器纯概念股。 我与 Baird 分析师持有相同的观点,认为它是一家独一无二的公司。
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$LASR: “A One of One Company; Stay Long”. This is exceptionally strong wording coming from Baird. Analyst reports typically never illicit this strong of wording with Outperform ratings. However the excitement is real: Especially after live videos of an operational the Iron Beam this week ( $LASR known supplier ), lasering down incoming missiles. And with the imminent TAM expansion with America’s Golden Dome Project. $LASR is the only publicly tradeable US pure play exposure to energy directed weapons. I share the same sentiment with Baird analysts that it is a One of One company.
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批评 IREN 和 NBIS 巨额增发稀释股权,认为投资者应回避。
@Agrippa_Inv 这一举措客观上很糟糕……我不明白 $IREN 的投资者怎么会支持 60 亿美元的 ATM(自动取款机式增发)。如果 $NBIS 进行 110 亿美元的 ATM 增发,我也会毫不犹豫地逃之夭夭。
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@Agrippa_Inv This one is objectively bad… I don’t see how $IREN investors could support a $6B ATM. If $NBIS ran an $11B ATM, I wouldn’t hesitate to fun for the hills either.
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质疑BKKT和IREN借名人效应吸引散户后恶意稀释股权。
@wilson_eth 感觉像 $BKKT 或 $IREN 这样的公司聘请那位人士,只是为了吸引新的散户买家,然后将其无限稀释。
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@wilson_eth Feels like companies like $BKKT or $IREN only bring the guy on so they can get new retail buyers then dilute them to oblivion
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IREN巨额增发稀释远超NBIS,非市场恐慌而是既定事实。
@Gyujin_9701 当 $IREN 实际执行增发以稀释股权并不可避免地向市场抛售价值60亿美元的股份时,这并非恐慌、不确定性和怀疑(FUD)。我原本强烈反对 $NBIS 进行25亿美元的此类操作,但这次规模完全不在一个量级上。
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@Gyujin_9701 It’s not FUD when $IREN actually went out and filled to dilute and inevitably sell $6B worth of shares into the market. I was really against $NBIS doing it with $2.5B but this is on another scale.
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IREN因重资本支出导致利润率受损
@Yeah_Dave 是的,与其他设计自定义服务器机架(custom server racks)以绕过原始设备制造商(OEM)成本的公司不同,$IREN 在此方面确实投入了大量资本支出(capex),这在一定程度上损害了利润率。
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@Yeah_Dave Yeah, unlike others that design their own things like custom server racks to bypass oem costs, $IREN does spend a lot of capex on it, which does hurt margins a bit
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批评IREN和AMC投资者将股权稀释粉饰为利好。
@darth_kirk 只有在看 $IREN 和 $AMC 时,我才见过投资者试图将股份被稀释到虚无解释为利好。
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@darth_kirk Only with $IREN and $AMC have I seen investors try to spin their shares getting diluted to oblivion as a positive thing.
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IREN 巨额增发致稀释,商业模式不及 NBIS,看多逻辑失效。
三天后,$IREN 再次进行 60 亿美元的自动取款机 (ATM) 增发,在公开市场上出售了几乎一半的市值。变现 3-4GW 产能听起来不错,但如果你是现有股东,情况就不妙了。看起来他们的经济模型不像 $NBIS 那样能覆盖足够多的资本支出 (Capex)。我和去年其他人的看多逻辑是:$IREN 通过托管 (Colo) 业务产生自由现金流 (FCF) 来资助 GPU 相关扩张。但这发生了实质性变化,增加了执行不确定性,并在此基础上带来了无尽的稀释。
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3 days later $IREN is having another $6B ATM, selling almost half their marketcap on the open market. Monetizing 3-4GW capacity sounds good, but not if you’re an existing shareholder. Doesn’t look like their economics cover enough of their capex in the way $NBIS does. My bull case, alongside everyone else’s last year: was for $IREN to do colo and fund GPU related expansion with FCF. This materially changed and added execution uncertainty + endless dilution on top.
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分析$AAOI空头逻辑与执行风险,看好其超大规模云需求及潜在10倍回报。
我看到的关于 $AAOI 的空头基本观点是:2.5亿美元的定向增发(ATM)不足以覆盖产能爬坡,他们还需要5000万至2.78亿美元(考虑到规模,这只是小钱)。 主要论点始终围绕执行力和潜在逆风: - 他们能否将台湾组装业务回流美国 - 扩大激光产能,以便不再零星使用 $COHR - 制造扩张的执行情况 - 中国厂商是否会导致毛利率压缩 - 共封装光学(CPO)的到来($GOOGL + $AVGO 已确认其退出) 我不认为这是客户集中度问题,因为从 $AMZN、$MSFT 到 $META 的每个超大规模云服务商都在抢购他们能生产的所有供应。 但我认为风险已经计入市值(MC),超大规模云服务商的需求加上 $NVDA 资助生态系统可能是最大的顺风+信号。 如果他们能执行到位,这多少让我想起 $RKLB 的“中子星”火箭。如果完美执行,我看到10倍的空间。如果不能,那就是我为上行空间承担的风险。
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The base case I’ve seen from $AAOI short sellers was that the $250m ATM doesn’t cover the capacity ramp and they needed $50m-$278m more (which is pennies given scale) The main argument is always around execution and potential headwinds: - whether they can reshore Taiwan assembly to US - scale up laser capacity so they don’t need to use $COHR here and there - executing on manufacturing expansion. - whether there’s margin compression from Chinese players - cpo arrival ( $GOOGL + $AVGO confirmed its way out) I don’t see it being a customer concentration problem since every hyperscaler from $AMZN, $MSFT, $META are trying to buy up any supply they can make. But I see the risk being priced into MC already and hyperscaler demand + $NVDA funding the ecosystem is probably the biggest tailwind + signal. It sorta does gives me $RKLB neutron vibes if they can execute. And if they can flawlessly I see it being a 10x. And if they don’t, that’s the risk I’m taking for the upside.
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澄清博通观点,认为其表态利好AAOI。
我想你误解了,$AVGO 表示共封装光学(CPO)仍处于早期阶段。这与光子学/光收发器整体市场是不同的。他表示可插拔光模块和铜缆将继续主导市场。这一表态以及 $GOOGL 在另一份分析师报告中拒绝 CPO,对 $AAOI 来说是非常看涨的信号。
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Think you misunderstood, $AVGO said CPO was early. That’s different than photonics/optical transceivers as a whole. He said pluggable optical and copper will continue to dominate the market. This statement and $GOOGL rejecting CPO from the other analyst note is incredibly bullish for $AAOI.
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看好AAOI当前估值,若Q2指引向好有望重估至470亿,建议定投。
感觉目前 $120-150亿 的市值(Market Cap)是一个不错的短期风险调整后价值。如果有关于其 2027 年第二季度(Q2 2027)预测的更多积极信号,估值应该会重新定价至 $470亿 左右(当然需要关注共封装光学(CPO)等领域的竞争格局,但 $GOOGL 和 $AVGO 已经证实该领域前景广阔)。鉴于 $AAOI 的高波动性,如果出现更好的入场点我并不意外,但定投(Dollar Cost Averaging)也不会错。
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Feels like $12-15B MC is a good near term risk adjusted value right now. And if there’s more positive signals toward their q2 2027 projections, should get repriced toward that $47B mark (of course need to monitor the landscape with cpo and others but $GOOGL and $AVGO helped confirm it’s way out) Given the high volatility with $AAOI would not be surprised if there’s better entry points but cost averaging can’t hurt.
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指出市场看重AAOI远期增长预期,非价值投资标的。
@jamesonmarkets 你难道没意识到,市场对于像 $AAOI 这样的高增长公司,看的是远期预测吗?尤其是在需要资本支出周期来建设 2027 年产能的时候。这不是一家价值投资类型的公司。
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@jamesonmarkets You do realize markets look toward forward projections for hypergrowth companies like $AAOI? Especially when there’s a capex cycle to buildout capacity for 2027. This is not a value investing type company
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回应关于AXTI早期投资论点的质疑
@adam_gamsy 当我最初撰写 $AXTI 投资论点(当时股价为 $12)时,我也收到了同样的问题 https://t.co/fO23QJghaw
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@adam_gamsy This was the same question I got on my original $AXTI thesis when it was $12 https://t.co/fO23QJghaw
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分析AAOI光子学护城河与SOTP估值,认为其上行空间值得执行风险。
感觉 $AAOI(市值75亿美元)是目前上行空间最大的 AI 交易之一? 在光子学领域,许多机构错过了上游瓶颈环节 $AXTI,因此散户可以在其被定价前发现这些机会。 对于 $AAOI,有一条清晰的通往 470 亿美元+ 估值的路径: 经济护城河: > 激光晶圆厂、设计及组装 > 德克萨斯州的激光产能翻三倍 > 美国制造(部分组装在台湾,但将于 2027 年回流美国) 预测: > 2027 年第二季度每月营收 3.78 亿美元 > 指引毛利率 35-38% -> 第三季度毛利率 40% 需求: > 超大规模云服务商买断了 $AAOI / $LITE / $COHR 能生产的所有产能 如果他们实现 2027 年下半年的营收目标: 激光组件权重:20% × 18.9 倍($LITE 估值倍数)= 3.78 倍 组装组件权重:80% × 8.5 倍(中际旭创/新易盛估值倍数)= 6.80 倍 $AAOI 的混合分部加总(SOTP) 估值倍数 = 10.58 倍远期销售额 如果他们实现预测,你仍然会得到 476 亿美元的市值。 这还不包括像 $MU 对比 SK 海力士那样赋予公司的“美国制造”溢价。 以及他们通过内部优化光模块(transceiver)供应链所获得的任何利润率扩张。 鉴于目前市值仅为 75 亿美元,我认为市场不会等到 2027 年第二季度才开始将其定价。 $AAOI 的上行空间值得承担执行风险吗? 对我来说:是的,毫无疑问。
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Feels like $AAOI ($7.5B MC) is one of the highest upside AI trades right now? With photonics lot of institutions miss upstream bottlenecks $AXTI, so retail can spot them before they get priced in. With AAOI, there’s a clear path to a $47B+ valuation from: Economic moat: > laser fab, the design, and the assembly > tripling laser capacity in Texas > made in America (some assembly in Taiwan but reshoring that to US in 2027) Projections: > $378m revenue per month in q2 2027 > guided 35-38% gross margins -> q3 40% gross margins Demand: > Hyperscalers buying out any capacity $AAOI / $LITE / $COHR can make If they hit their 2027 H2 revenue target: Laser Component Weight: 20% × 18.9x ( $LITE est. multiple) = 3.78x · Assembly Component Weight: 80% × 8.5x (Innolight/Eoptolink Multiple) = 6.80x · $AAOI’s Blended SOTP Multiple = 10.58x Forward Sales You still get a $47.6B Market Cap if they deliver projections. This is not including any potential Made in America premiums that get assigned to companies like $MU vs. SK Hynix. And any margin expansion they get from optimizing the transceiver supply chain in-house. Given the marketcap is a small $7.5B now, I don’t think markets will wait for q2 2027 to start pricing it in. Is the $AAOI upside worth the execution risk? To me: Yes, Unequivocally.
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认为若AAOI能顺利执行,其估值极具吸引力。
@Blinklebloop 同意,如果 $AAOI 能够顺利执行(execute),其估值看起来极其便宜。
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@Blinklebloop Agreed, $AAOI looks extremely cheap if they can execute.
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AAOI获三大云厂商包销产能,营收有望超越LITE,引发市场炒作。
如果 $AAOI 披露有三家超大规模云服务商客户(可能是 $META 或 $ORCL)加上 $AMZN 和 $MSFT 正在买断其所有产能。然后他们从 $COHR 激光器到设计再到组装实现端到端全流程。接着他们预测营收将超越另一家市值 550 亿美元的美国公司 $LITE。嗯,难怪会有这么多炒作。
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If $AAOI reveals there's three hyperscaler clients (maybe $META or $ORCL) + $AMZN + $MSFT) buying out any capacity they make. Then they do end-to-end from $COHR lasers to design to assembly... And then they're projecting revenue to leapfrog the other $55B US company in $LITE. Yeah, makes sense there's a lot of hype.
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$AAOI 具备全产业链美国制造优势,有望超越同行营收,高确信度看涨。
$AAOI 令人极度兴奋。 如果他们能执行到位,明年市值有望从 70 亿美元重估至 350 亿美元甚至更高。 我将简要概述行业格局及原因: 组装环节: -> 从 $LITE / $COHR 采购激光器 -> 根据蓝图组装 -> 然后销售光收发器(transceiver)。 $FN (亚洲) -> 市值约 200 亿美元。 预计营收约 40 亿美元,毛利率 12.4%。 设计 + 组装: - 从 $LITE / $COHR 采购激光器,设计 800G 和 1.6T 产品 -> 然后销售光收发器。 中际旭创 (中国):市值约 840 亿美元 毛利率约 46.2%,预计营收约 110 亿美元 新易盛 (中国):市值约 500 亿美元: 预计营收约 53 亿美元 激光器: - 制造激光器出售给中际旭创 + 新易盛,或制造激光器 + 设计后交给 $FN 组装。 $LITE,市值 550 亿美元: 2026 财年预估营收约 29.1 亿美元(~40% 毛利率) (他们也做激光器以外的业务,例如 $LITE 通过 Cloudlite 进行设计 -> $FN 根据蓝图组装,但并非端到端全流程)。 ($COHR 和 $AVGO 也这样做) _ _ _ _ _ _ 整个供应链(激光芯片、设计和组装) $AAOI 市值 75 亿美元: 2027 年中点预估年化经常性收入 (ARR) 约 45 亿美元(40% 毛利率) - $AAOI 制造激光器(像 $LITE),从零开始设计(像中际旭创),然后像 $FN 一样组装: -> $AAOI 内部完成 $LITE / $COHR 的激光器制造 -> $AAOI 完成中际旭创/新易盛的光收发器设计。 -> $AAOI 完成 $FN 的组装。 这实现了全环节的利润率扩张/优化。 最棒的是,他们预计将超越 $LITE 2026 财年预估的约 29.1 亿美元营收... 通过:2027 年中点实现约 45 亿美元 ARR 当你看到 $AAOI 的 75 亿美元市值。 再看光电子供应链的每个部分,从市值 550 亿美元的 $LITE 到市值 550 亿美元的新易盛。 任何人都能看到如果执行到位,其原始、纯粹的上涨空间。 (该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文,引用内容仅供理解语境): 高确信度做多:$AAOI。 我真切地认为这很容易在明年实现 3 倍增长。 英伟达资助了 $COHR,后者在马来西亚制造 800G/1.6T 产品。 $LITE 使用泰国的 $FN 进行量产,并在泰国拥有自己的制造设施。 我会不断强调这一点,但 Applied Optoelectronics ($AAOI) 是唯一纯正的美国制造光收发器标的。 再次强调,两家“美国”光电子公司将业务外包到亚洲,而 $AAOI 花了多年时间在德克萨斯州建立产能和晶圆厂。 英伟达刚刚资助了 $COHR 和 $LITE 以建立美国版本,以隔离其最关键供应链的地缘政治风险。 但猜猜谁已经建立了供应链布局,在这方面领先数年?$AAOI。 $LITE(550 亿美元市值)2026 财年预估约 29.1 亿美元 $AAOI(71 亿美元市值)2027 年下半年:43.5 亿美元 ARR。 如果管理层执行到位,$AAOI 实际上将超越 Lite 2026 年的营收预测(且毛利率约 40%)。 再说一次。$AAOI(70 亿美元市值)如果达成预测,将超越 $LITE(550 亿美元市值)整个 2026 年的营收预测。 亚洲的 $FN,2026 年预测实际上与 AAOI 完全相同。 ~43.9 亿美元营收,毛利率 12.4%。市值 200 亿美元(且毛利率低得多) 即使 $AAOI 只达成目标的 70%,其估值也很可能大幅重估,远超当前市值。 简而言之:在这些价位很难看到 $AAOI 的下行风险,尤其是 3-4 家超大规模云厂商(可能是 $GOOGL, $MSFT, $AMZN)希望购买其未来几年的所有产能。且 $GOOGL 不采用共封装光学(CPO) 路线。 $AAOI 在增长方面超越 $CRDO, $ALAB, $LITE 等,并受益于光电子主题而非铜缆(前两者)。 只要管理层交付成果,$AAOI 仍然是 1 年期高确信度的非对称性机会。
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$AAOI is extraordinarily exciting. There is a chance this re-rates to $35B+ or higher next year from $7B if they can execute. I'll give a TLDR of the landscape and a simple explanation why: Assembly: -> Lasers from $LITE / $COHR -> assembles from blueprints -> then sell the transceiver. $FN (Asia) -> ~$20B MC. ~$4B projected revenue, 12.4% gross margins. Design + Assembly: - Buys lasers from $LITE / $COHR, design the 800G and 1.6T -> then sells the transceiver. Innolight (China): ~$84B MC ~ 46.2% gross margins, ~$11B projected revenue Eoptolink (China): ~$50B MC: ~$5.3B projected revenue Lasers: - Creates the Lasers to sell to Innolight + Eoptolink or creates the lasers + design to give to $FN to assemble for them/. $LITE, $55B MC: FY 2026 est. ~$2.91B (~40% margin) (they also do more than lasers, eg. $LITE with Cloudlite does design -> $FN to assemble based on blueprints too, but not the entire process end-to-end). ( $COHR and $AVGO do this too) _ _ _ _ _ _ Entire supply chain (laser chips, design, and assembly) $AAOI $7.5B MC: Midpoint 2027 est. ~4.5B ARR (40% margin) - $AAOI makes the laser (like $LITE), designs it from ground up (like Innolight), then assembles it like ( $FN ): And it's primarily made in the USA. -> $AAOI does the $LITE / $COHR lasers in-house -> $AAOI does Innolight/Eoptolink transceiver design. -> $AAOI does $FN's assembly. This is possible margin expansion/optimization across the board. Best of all they're projected to leapfrogging $LITE's FY2026 projected ~$2.91B revenue... By doing: ~4.5B ARR mid-year 2027 When you look at $AAOI's $7.5B Marketcap. And you look at each part of the photonics supply chain from $LITE at $55B to Eoptolink at $55B. Anyone can see the raw, unadulterated upside if they execute.
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反驳质疑,认为RKLB将构建类似Starlink的巨型卫星星座。
@builtbyaftee 预先反驳一下:$RKLB 将通过 Neutron + Flatellite 打造属于自己的巨型星座(Megaconstellation)版 Starlink。 https://t.co/7OLrHZMvVe
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@builtbyaftee Inb4 $RKLB makes a megaconstallation Starlink of its own with Neutron + Flatellite https://t.co/7OLrHZMvVe