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  1. 拿 GME/AMC 作比,认为 IREN 的大幅增发对普通股东很伤。

    如果你是 $GME、$AMC 的 CEO,一个逻辑上可行的选择可能就是把 ATM 测试抛给散户股东,让公司受益,因为他们会接住。 但对 $IREN 的套牢者或者 meme 股来说,我个人不会就这样眼睁睁看着自己被稀释到原来 5200 万流通股的两倍左右。 我希望它别通过,因为这太蠢了。他们之前已经从 Northland 融到足够多了,这次就是掠夺性操作。

    英文原文

    Yes if you were $GME, $AMC CEO’s a logical choice might be to dump ATMs on a retail shareholders to benefit the company because they would take it. However $IREN bagholders or meme stocks, I would not personally just sit there and get diluted from around double the 52m share float. I hope it doesn’t pass since it’s stupid. They already raised enough from Northland and this is predatory

  2. 认为 SOFI 还可以,而一些用稀释去抬股价的逻辑很扯。

    $SOFI 这家公司本身没问题。 我觉得 X 上关于银行阻止竞争对手提供收益的逻辑挺有意思的…… 就像让 Wells Fargo 的活期账户比 4% APY 的稳定币银行更有竞争力。 这可能会成为最聪明的观点之一? 还是说,像 $AMC 那种通过稀释把股东洗掉、结果股价反而能涨 20 倍的逻辑更聪明?

    英文原文

    $SOFI as a company is fine. I think the X community logic behind banks banning competitors from offering yield… Making Wells Fargo checking accounts more competitive than 4% APY stablecoin banks. Might take the lead as the highest IQ take? Or maybe the $AMC dilution to wipe out shareholders as a way to 20x the share price might be smarter?

  3. 把自己列为 X 上最聪明投资者之一的话题,显得像玩笑。

    X 上谁是最聪明的投资者? 名单里有 $SOFI、$AMC、$IREN 和 $BYND。

    英文原文

    Who are the smartest investors on X? In the lineup we have $SOFI, $AMC, $IREN, and $BYND.

  4. 警告$IREN的60亿美元ATM大规模稀释将清算散户股权,历史先例已证明结局惨烈

    $IREN 提交了文件,计划以 117 亿美元市值稀释 60 亿美元。 这不是噪音。 这是 Iren 通过向公开市场发售所有新股来变现 4.5GW 容量的方式。 如果你想了解这类操作的历史结果: 看看 $BKKT 在 Mike 手下暴跌 99% 的先例,以及 $IREN 董事会过去大规模 ATM(按市价发行)的历史。或者他最近的公司 $ASST。 这对公司和高管是增值的:因为这清算了所有散户股东,而他们总可以发行 SBC(股权激励)。 所以他们实际上并不在乎股价需要达到什么水平才能发售。 完成之后,他们将拥有 60 亿美元新现金用于扩张,而无需支付利息。 但可转换票据附带利息、以及 $NVDA 资助资产负债表的模式对散户资金好得多的原因是: 因为它不需要清算散户股权就能实现这一点。因为目前看来 $IREN 像是数据中心版的 $AMC,拥有不断缩小的护城河,以及即将有 60 亿美元新股涌入公开市场。 我发帖讨论 $IREN 的原因是: - 人们将 60 亿美元 ATM 视为"噪音"而不予理会 - 它是最受散户欢迎的"抄底"标的之一,而这些散户正在买入一个 60 亿美元稀释机器 - 人们仍然完全不了解其中的风险 - 他们目前的资金量不足以支撑 GPU/GW 容量的货币化 - 他们很可能必须使用 ATM,这不是"选择性" 再次声明:我在这家公司零仓位。 我只是警告散户投资者,这个 ATM 的结构性机制如何通过 60 亿美元以上的 ATM 运作来从结构上抹杀你的股权增值。 因为 $IREN 可能需要在任何价格出售新股来变现他们的 GW,否则就没有必要提交这个文件。 高管们实际上不需要担心,因为他们可以通过发行 SBC 来弥补股价下跌,就像 $SNAP 一样。 如果你还在疑惑你的股权是否会被大规模 ATM 清算: 还有更好的做多选择,比 $IREN 更值得。

    英文原文

    $IREN filed to dilute $6,000,000,000 at a $11.7B MC. That is not noise. This is Iren's way to monetize their 4.5GW capacity by selling all those new shares onto the open market. If you want some history on how this turns out: Look at $BKKT that crashed 99% with Mike and $IREN board of directors history with excessive ATMs. Or his recent company $ASST. It’s accretive to the company and executives: Because it wipes out all retail shareholders and they can always issue SBC. So they don’t actually care what stock price it needs to be at to sell. After they’re finished, they have $6B in new cash to use for scaling without paying interest. But the reason why convertible notes with interest, and $NVDA funding balance sheets is much better for retail capital: Is because it doesn’t wipe out retail equity to achieve this. Because at this point $IREN looks like the $AMC of datacenters with a dwindling moat, and looming $6B in shares sold into the open market. Reason I post about $IREN is because - people dismiss a $6B ATM as “Noise” - it’s one of the most popular retail “buy the dip” companies that they’re buying into a $6B dilution machine - people still don’t understand the risk at all. - the amount they have now is not enough to finance GPUs/GW capacity monetization. - they likely will have to use the ATM, it’s not “optionality” Again: I have zero positions in the company. I’m just warning retail investors that this ATM structurally wipes out your equity appreciation by how structural mechanics of $6B+ ATMs work. Because $IREN likely needs to sell new shares at any price to monetize their GW, otherwise there would be zero need to file it. Executives actually don't need to care because they can make up for stock price dropping by issuing SBC like $SNAP. If you have to wonder if your equity gets wiped out from an excessive ATM: There are better longs out there than $IREN.

  5. 批评持有$IREN者被套牢还看涨,质疑其投资逻辑

    我真的对那些还持有$IREN的人感到惊讶。 想象一下,市值接近60亿美元…… 最终被稀释,在每次股市反弹时都被抛售到公开市场…… 然后还看涨? 如果你为了100-200%+的年初至今涨幅而避开$SNDK或$AAOI。 因为你把公司看得比自己的投资组合回报更重要。 你就陷入了特殊的$AMC套牢族境地。

    英文原文

    I’m genuinely impressed there’s people out there holding $IREN. Imagine getting close to half the market cap… ~$6B eventually diluted, sold into the open market against every stock rally… then still being bullish? If you’re avoiding $SNDK or $AAOI for 100-200%+ YTD. Because you care more about a company over your own portfolio returns. You’re in the special $AMC bagholding territory.

  6. 警惕与股票“结婚”,投资逻辑变化时应果断调整持仓。

    大多数 X 用户都会犯与股票“结婚”的错误。 如果你的投资逻辑因 $HIMS 或 $IREN 发生实质性变化,你的持仓也应随之调整。 如果去年你对 $IREN 的看多逻辑是通过托管(Colo)业务变现 3GW 产能。 那么如果该公司: -> 在 122 亿市值下不可避免地向你稀释 60 亿美元 -> 在每次反弹中将这些股份抛向公开市场 -> 转向 GPU 业务 你的逻辑已经变了。 这很可能是一个退出以追求更具非对称性机会的时机。 如果你对 $HIMS 的逻辑是它是医疗界的亚马逊。 但如果他们被 $NVO 和美国政府起诉至绝境,退出是合理的。 但如果随着 $NVO 撤诉并达成合作,逻辑重新成立,那么再次做多也没有问题。 每个月都有许多因催化剂或基本面而改变的事情。 如果你仍在为必然发生的、针对你 $IREN 持仓的 60 亿美元新股抛售而欢呼。 而你唯一的理由就像 $AMC 投资者那样“信任管理层”。 也许现在是时候问问自己: 你是否因为与股票“结婚”而忽略了所有危险信号?

    英文原文

    Most people on X make the mistake of getting married to a stock. If your thesis materially changes with $HIMS or $IREN, so should your position. If the bull case with $IREN last year was monetizing 3GW capacity through colo. Then if the company: -> inevitably dilutes you $6B off a $12.2B MC -> sells those shares into the open market in every rally -> pivots to GPU offerings Your thesis has changed. And it’s likely a time to exit to pursue more asymmetric opportunities. If your thesis with $HIMS was that they’re the Amazon of healthcare. But they get sued to oblivion by $NVO and the US gov. It’s respectable to exit. But if the thesis is back online given $NVO dropping their lawsuit and partnering up, then there’s nothing wrong with going long again. A lot of things change every month with catalysts or fundamentals. If you’re still cheering on an inevitable $6B worth of new shares getting sold against your $IREN positions on every rally. And your only qualifier is “Trusting in Management” like $AMC investors. Maybe it’s a good time to ask yourself this: Are you ignoring every red flag because you’re married to the stock?

  7. 批评IREN社区无视融资风险,警告其陷入AMC式套牢困境。

    @MikeFReichmann 如果 $IREN 社区的主要回应是说提及 $60 亿 ATM(自动取款机融资)是苏联资助的共产主义宣传。抱歉地说,你们已经进入了 $AMC 套牢盘(bagholder)的领地。 https://t.co/mK0TwgxArO

    英文原文

    @MikeFReichmann If the $IREN community’s main response is to say mentioning the $6B ATM is communist propaganda paid off by the Soviet Union. Sorry to say you’re in $AMC bagholderterritory. https://t.co/mK0TwgxArO

  8. 因巨额稀释及风险收益失衡,作者看空 $IREN 并推荐 $CIFR 和 $NBIS。

    我看不到任何持有 $IREN 的 compelling case(有力理由)。 尤其是考虑到在 $128亿市值下新增 $60亿的股票稀释。 人们可能会看到市值膨胀至 $200-$250亿。 但他们的股份价值会随时间递减。 风险收益比已经不再存在。 像 $CIFR 这样的公司,通过 Fluidstack 为 $AMZN 和 $GOOGL 提供 Colo(数据中心托管)模式,提供了更具非对称性的上行空间。 而像 $NBIS 这样的公司则提供更好的多元化(Robotaxis(自动驾驶出租车)、ClickHouse),执行风险更低,且资本支出得到良好支持。 对于 $IREN,无法合理化接近市值一半的稀释并为此欢呼。 即使有新的 Hyperscaler(超大规模云服务商)交易,风险收益比也不存在。 我去年对 $IREN 看多,但已卖出。持有者经历了从: -> 3GW 容量,轻资产,Colo 模式(我曾看好) -> 为 $MSFT 购买 GPU 并为其转型的执行风险欢呼(我不看好) 到 -> 为 $60亿新股稀释欢呼,并在公开市场上被反向抛售。(AMC 接盘者领地) 如果你努力证明新的 ~50% 稀释是好事,且在你持仓被抛售时信任管理层: 抱歉告诉你,你现在加入了数据中心领域的 $AMC 等价俱乐部。 市场上有更好的多头标的。

    英文原文

    I see zero compelling case to hold $IREN. Especially given the new $6B share dilution at a $12.8B marketcap. People will likely see that marketcap inflate to $20-$25B. But the value of their shares decrease over time. The risk reward is just not there anymore. Companies like $CIFR offer much more asymmetrical upside given their colo model for $AMZN and $GOOGL through Fluidstack. And companies like $NBIS offer much better diversification (robotaxis, clickhouse), derisked execution, and are well supported for capex. With $IREN, there’s no way to justify being diluted close to half the market cap and cheering that on. Even with a new hyperscaler deal there’s risk reward is just not there. I was bullish $IREN last year but sold it. As holders went from: -> 3GW capacity, asset lite, Colo model (was a fan of this) -> Buying GPUs for $MSFT and cheering on execution risks from the pivot (not a fan) Into -> Cheering on $6B of new share dilution + getting sold on the open market against their positions. (AMC bagholder territory) If you’re trying hard to justify why new ~50% dilution is a good thing sold against your positions and trusting in management: Sorry to tell you, that you’re now in the $AMC equivalent club for datacenters. There are much better longs out there.

  9. 批评IREN和AMC投资者将股权稀释粉饰为利好。

    @darth_kirk 只有在看 $IREN 和 $AMC 时,我才见过投资者试图将股份被稀释到虚无解释为利好。

    英文原文

    @darth_kirk Only with $IREN and $AMC have I seen investors try to spin their shares getting diluted to oblivion as a positive thing.

  10. 批评RKLB大规模减持,类比GME/AMC泡沫。

    @beavinvests 抱歉,自 $GME 或 $AMC 持有者为公司向市场抛售股票而欢呼以来,我还没见过如此多的妄想。$RKLB 在公开市场上抛售 7.5 亿美元,对抗任何买盘压力,这并不是一件值得兴奋的事。

    英文原文

    @beavinvests Sorry but I haven't seen this much delusion since $GME or $AMC holders cheered that the company is dumping stock on them. Having $RKLB sell $750m on open market against any buying pressure is not something to be excited about.

  11. NBIS稀释利空已消化,股价获买盘支撑。

    我说过,$NBIS 的稀释性回调已被完全买盘消化,因为市场早已将其定价。免费分享 6% 的回报 https://t.co/yo7W0HktdR

    英文原文

    Told you, $NBIS dilution dip completely bought out since it was already priced in. Free 6% https://t.co/yo7W0HktdR

  12. NBIS稀释已定价,资金用于微软合同是利好,类比ASTS融资后股价大涨。

    如果你担心 $NBIS,请记住**稀释效应已被市场定价**。$MSFT 的合同价值超过 170 亿美元,未来 7 年多将增加 300%+ 的营收。$NBIS 当天仅上涨 45%,而非 250%+。如果他们将资金用于 $MSFT 合同而非像 $GME 或 $AMC 那样持有,这是积极的。$ASTS 也启动了用于产品部署的融资,股价从 22 美元 -> 18 美元 -> 50 美元。

    英文原文

    If you're scared about $NBIS remember **DILUTION WAS ALREADY PRICED IN** The $MSFT contract was 17B+, increasing forward rev by 300%+ for over 7 years. $NBIS gained 45% on the day not 250%+. It's positive if they're using it for the MSFT contract instead of just holding it like $GME or $AMC. $ASTS also launched a capital raise for product deployment and their stock went from $22 -> $18 -> $50.