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MTSI 进来后长期更看多
@Mellokhai 这是个比较细腻的看法：长期看多，尤其是 $MTSI 作为投资者并帮忙清债之后。Macom 又不是日内交易标的，所以那 4500 万美元其实被锁住了。 如果另一半增发卖给了套利可转债的投资者，短期就偏空。
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@Mellokhai Nuanced, long term bullish especially with $MTSI as an investor and clearing debt. Macom is not a day trader so that 45M is locked up. Short term bearish if the other half of the offering was sold to investors that arbitrage convertible notes.
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Win Semi 是 HBM4 量产核心
所以 $SIVE 不负责产能扩张，真正负责量产爬坡的是 Win Semi。 Win 的体量非常大。$AVGO、$LITE、$QCOM、联发科、$MTSI、$NXPI 全都在用他们。 他们也在 $AAPL 和 SpaceX 的供应链里。所以只要你锁定 Win 的产能，超大规模云厂商的量产放量就是可去风险的。
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So $SIVE doesn't handle capacity scaling, Win Semi does volume ramp. Win is massive. $AVGO, $LITE, $QCOM, Mediatek, $MTSI, $NXPI, all use them. They're in $AAPL, SpaceX supply chains too. So volume scaling for hyperscalers is derisked if you secure allocation and do it through Win.
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POET 被替代意味着 Marvell 直连 SIVE
所以 $POET 做的是封装那一层的事情。 如果 $MRVL 放弃了 Poet，意思就是 Marvell 认为自己可以把那一层垂直整合进 Celestial，并且直接自己买激光器（不只是 nda 纠纷那么简单）。 Marvell 还是得买激光器。我相信他们会准备多来源合同，但我不认为 $NVDA 会把分配额度分给 $MRVL。 这也是为什么 $SIVE 很可能仍然是直接供货给 Marvell 的激光供应商，因为它们已经符合 Celestial 的规格，这样就能直接去掉一个中间层玩家。
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So $POET does the packaging side of things. If $MRVL dropped Poet, it means Marvell felt they could vertically integrate that layer into Celestial and just buy lasers directly themselves (not just the nda dispute). Marvell would still need to buy lasers. I'm sure they're planning multi-source contracts but I don't think $NVDA would share allocation to $MRVL. Which is why $SIVE is likely still the laser supplier direct to Marvell since they fit celestial specs already, and that just cuts out a middleware player.
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别轻易跟单陌生人
@XtineFang 如果这事是真的那也太好笑了，但我觉得在 X 上随便 copy trade 一个陌生人并不是好主意！
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@XtineFang that's hilarious if true, i dont think it's a good idea to copy trade a random on x tho!
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日本散户持仓是好信号
我很高兴日本社区在研究之后开始建 $SIVE 仓位！ 更强的国际股东基础总是正面的。 至于我的一些看法，市场现在看起来像这样： 1. $NVDA 把 $LITE / $COHR 的分配额度买走了 2. $AMD 的 CPO 走的是 $GFS + $SIVE / Win，剩下的激光供应可能会给 $LITE，如果还有分配的话。 3. 还有……$MRVL 的 CPO 不管怎样都需要激光器。 $SIVE 看起来是最后几家纯 merchant laser 供应商之一。 所以 Marvell 大概率会直接用 $SIVE（本来就符合 Celestial 规格），后面再多来源（也许是 $MTSI）。之后他们再把进入 Celestial 的中介封装 IP 垂直整合掉。 支持这个判断的有一些有意思的点： -> Ayar 把 $MTSI 和 $LITE 从官网上删掉了，改用了 $SIVE 作为主要供应商。Ayar 和 AlChip/GUC 等都有连接。 -> 如果看 $GFS 的幻灯片，在 $AMD 把 CPO 项目交给 GlobalFoundries 之后，只剩下 $SIVE 和 $LITE 两家公众公司。 -> $SIVE 很可能从去年开始就和 Win 有激光产能爬坡协议。 $NVDA 很可能还没把这些激光产能完全分配完，所以像 $JBL、$AMD 以及其他公司会把溢出订单给 Sivers。 因为 $LITE 已经暗示 2028 年的产能基本满了。 我可能也有错，但基于公开信息来看，情况就是这样。 至于为什么我认为它是个好长线： -> Sivers 基本上过去没怎么暴露在 800G 或更早的代际里。 -> 欧洲市场按过去 12 个月营收定价……所以之前估值一直被压得很低。 -> 它们拿到了 $NVDA 造成的超额需求。 但它们也正好站在 CPO 和甚至下一代 1.6T（$JBL LRO）扩产的最前沿，明年就会开始。 然后到 2027 年下半年或 2028 年，还能扩到硅光等相邻领域，比如可能的 $AAPL 消费设备。 或者 FMCW 4D AI 公司，比如 $AEVA。 这么多年开发，终于在明年要开花结果了。 我个人觉得市场漏掉了一个大东西，公开信息会随着时间推移慢慢被大家通过供应链关系、网站挖掘或者演示材料发现。 超大规模云厂商供应商不会无缘无故选一家 10 亿美元市值的瑞典激光公司。 和 $JBL 的直接合同就是最大的信号。 这也是我为什么高 conviction 做多。
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I'm happy Japanese communities started positions in $SIVE after doing research! A stronger international shareholder base is always positive. As for some thoughts, my read on the market looks like: 1. $NVDA bought out allocation from $LITE / $COHR 2. $AMD CPO went with $GFS + $SIVE / Win for remaining laser supply maybe $LITE if there’s still allocation. 3. And… $MRVL CPO will need lasers regardless. $SIVE looks like one of the last remaining pure play merchant laser suppliers. So Marvell will go with $SIVE (fits Celestial specs already) directly with multi-source down the road (maybe $MTSI). After they vertically integrate away interposer packaging process IP that feeds into Celestial. Just some interesting things to back that up: -> Ayar removed $MTSI and $LITE from their website and went with $SIVE as primary. Ayar’s connected to AlChip/GUC and others. -> If look at the $GFS slide there's only two public players with $SIVE and $LITE after $AMD went with Globalfoundries for their CPO program. -> $SIVE likely has agreements with Win since last year for laser capacity scaling. $NVDA likely hasn't fully allocated that laser supply, so the remaining companies like $JBL, $AMD, and others go to Sivers for overflow. Since $LITE signaled they were already fully allocated for 2028. I could be wrong, but just based on public information that’s what it looks like. As for why I think it's a good long: -> Sivers also basically had no exposure to 800G or previous generations. -> European markets price in previous 12 months revenue... hence previous depressed valuations -> they get all the hyperscaler overflow created by market panic from $NVDA But they also happen to be in the bleeding edge of CPO and even for gen-2 1.6T ( $JBL LRO) scaling next year in 2027. Then for H2 2027 or 2028, they scale in adjacent areas like Silicon Photonics for likely $AAPL consumer devices. Or FMCW 4D AI companies like $AEVA. Many many years of development, finally coming to fruition next year. I personally think markets are missing something big here, that the public uncovers over time with mapping hyperscaler relationships, website digging, or presentation slides. Hyperscalers suppliers don't randomly choose a $1B Swedish laser company for no reason. The direct contract with $JBL was the biggest signal of that. And it’s my high conviction long moving forward.
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LITE 和 AAOI 的比喻
@offermemoneyXYZ $LITE 是龙虾和最后一道 surf and turf。 $AAOI 是那个也卖最后一道 surf and turf 的蒸汽锅厨师。 但他们又想回去养红龙虾。
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@offermemoneyXYZ $LITE is a lobster and the final surf and turf. $AAOI is the steamer who also sells the final surf and turf. But they want to go back to farming red lobsters as well.
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西语回复
@Bigmug286016 当然可以！我会说一点西班牙语。非常感谢你的评论。
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@Bigmug286016 por supuesto! puedo hablar un poco espanol. muchas gracias por tu comentario.
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韩语社区交流很开心
@PhotonCap 和韩国光子学社区交流也真的很有趣，哈哈。 非常感谢你帮助把这一切变成可能。 我非常期待接下来会发生什么！
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@PhotonCap 한국의 포토닉스 커뮤니티와 소통하는 것도 정말 재밌네요 ㅋㅋ. 이 모든 걸 가능하게 도와주셔서 감사합니다. 앞으로 어떤 일들이 펼쳐질지 너무 기대됩니다!
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感谢日本社区
@beauty_oe 谢谢！也特别感谢让这件事成真的日本社区各位。 把这些想法传播到世界其他地区真的很有意思。
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@beauty_oe ありがとうございます！そして、これを実現させてくれた日本のコミュニティの皆様に特別な感謝を申し上げます。 アイデアを世界の他の地域へ広めるのは楽しいですね。
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2 万订阅太夸张了
我猜……匿名网友终于听进去了？ 对 X 上一个普通人来说，2 万订阅真的很夸张。 https://t.co/0Wyq4WdZjl
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I guess... Anon finally listened? 20,000 subscribers is unreal for some random on X. https://t.co/0Wyq4WdZjl
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先做研究再公开
@tim_pscl 我会做一个完整名单然后公开，现在我还在研究所有东西。
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@tim_pscl I'll make a full list and release it to the public, just doing research into everything right now.
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10 分好评
@CMSinvestments 10/10
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@CMSinvestments 10/10
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想长仓 SM
@longwashere 我想做多 041510，SM。如果我买到足够多的股份，也许就能见到 Aespa。
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@longwashere I wanted to long 041510, SM. If I acquire enough shares, maybe I can meet Aespa.
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IBKR 意外帮我拉增长
@ZacSazerac999 我这是无意中在帮 $IBKR 拉零售增长，哈哈。 不过很高兴听到这个！Interactive Brokers 的执行最好，所以你长期来看确实会省下不少。 只是他们的 UI 真的还有很多要改。
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@ZacSazerac999 I’m inadvertently hard carrying $IBKR retail growth lol. But glad to hear that! interactive brokers has the best execution so you’ll actually save up long term. Their UI can use a lot of work though.
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IBKR 开始支持韩国股票
哇，不会吧。 $IBKR 现在已经有韩国股票了。 这会很有意思，我之前有很多想法都没法做多。
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Woah no way. $IBKR has Korean stocks now. This is going to be fun, I had a lot of ideas in mind I couldn’t long.
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所以我就直说了：市值 13.5 亿美元的 Towa（6315）…… 它是 HBM4（压缩成型）上很罕见、活生生的垄断定义。 虽然今年到现在几乎没怎么涨，但像 $MU、SK 海力士、三星这些存储厂商都是他们的客户。而且每一家存储厂商的财报都在指向大幅增加 capex。 就连从 $TSM 的财报也能看出来，所有主要半导体公司都在经历一轮巨额资本开支周期，以满足 AI 需求。 三大存储厂商也都从 HBM3E 和 NAND 里赚得很猛……所以下一轮 capex 周期大概不会像上一轮那样了（意思就是花得会更多）。 像 $ASML 一样，这种东西周期性极强，但我想在未来几个月的 HBM4 capex 爆发里拿到敞口。 我想把这个名字和 $LPK（玻璃核心基板）一起放到大家视野里，因为它们都是功能性垄断。 但我确实觉得现在这个时间点刚刚好，毕竟所有机器供应商都在大幅重估，而它相对还是平的。 这也不算什么新发现，因为之前还有别的分析师和一些随机关注者提过这个名字，但希望我这次把时点抓对了。 （免责声明：我确实持仓，这只是我自己想法的 TLDR，请不要跟单）
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So just putting it out there: Towa (6315), at $1.35B... Is a rare, living definition of monopoly over HBM4 (compression molding). It's been kinda flat YTD, but every memory company like $MU, Sk Hynix, Samsung are their customers. And each of the memory company earnings signaled massive capex increases. Even as seen with $TSM earnings, every major semi is going through a massive capex cycle to meet AI demand. And all three memory makers have printed from hbm3e and nand... so the next capex cycle is probably not like the last (meaning a lot more spend). Like $ASML, this is hyper-cyclical but I wanted exposure to the upcoming HBM4 capex ramp over these next few months. Thought I'd put this name on people's radar alongside $LPK (glass core substrates) as a functional monopoly. But I do feel like this timing is about right while every machine supplier is having a massive re-rating yet this was relatively flat. Not exactly a new find, since a few other analysts + random followers had this name but hope I get the timing right. (Disclaimer: I do hold positions, this just TLDR of my own thoughts, please don’t copy trade)
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回复确认自己持有仓位
@TedWilliams1930 是的，我有仓位
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@TedWilliams1930 Yep I have positions
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存储链条继续起飞
从 $MU 到 $EWY（SK 海力士、三星）再到 $SNDK，存储相关名字最近都在疯狂起飞。 除了三大厂之外，还有 NAND 或台湾的名字，比如南亚科。 现在也许是看看 Towa（6315）的好时机，用来捕捉 HBM4 上游垄断的 capex 周期？ https://t.co/VZPwzB0SFK
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Memory names from $MU to $EWY (SK Hynix, Samsung) and $SNDK are going brrrr lately. Aside from the big three, then your NAND or TW names like Nanya. Might be a good time to look at names like Towa (6315) to capture upstream monopoly capex cycles for hbm4? https://t.co/VZPwzB0SFK
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激光卡点的比喻
@platochi 我不知道大家是不是没理解激光卡点，所以我能给的最好类比就是龙虾。
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@platochi Idk people didn’t understand the laser chokepoint so best analogy I can give is lobsters
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所有餐厅都同源采购
@zoroinvests 那他们就换一家餐厅。 但所有餐厅其实都从同一家缅因州红蓝龙虾养殖户那里进货。
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@zoroinvests Then they switch restaurants. But all the restaurants source their lobsters from the same Maine Red and Blue lobster farmers.
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找到下跌原因
@_stockResearch 哈哈，找到下跌的原因了。
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@_stockResearch lol found the reason for the drop
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龙虾类比
假设 $SIVE、$LITE 是做特制的蓝色和红色缅因龙虾。 这非常稀有，没多少人能做出来。 $POET 负责把龙虾蒸熟，并装进即食容器里。 $MRVL 把这些龙虾尾买来，和西兰花、牛排一起装盘。 然后以最高价格卖给高端客户。 Marvell 以供应蓝色龙虾尾而闻名。 但也能一直卖红色的，而且它更容易继续卖他们已经习惯的蓝色款。 红色龙虾农场主也可以花些功夫转产蓝色龙虾，但养出来需要时间。 但……碰巧 Marvell 的竞争对手 Nvidia 把所有红龙虾都买去给自己的餐厅用了。 最后，他们还是需要那些稀有的蓝色缅因龙虾。只不过决定自己来蒸。 这就是 $POET 和 $MRVL 的情况。他们大概率会直接自己去买龙虾，因为你没法凭空变出蓝龙虾。
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Pretend $SIVE, $LITE make specialized blue and red maine lobsters. Very rare, not many people can do. $POET steams the lobsters and prepares it in a ready-to-go container. $MRVL buys those lobster tails, puts it together on a plate with broccoli and steak. Then serves it at the highest price to high end customers. Marvell is famous for serving Blue lobster tails. But can always serve Red ones, and it’s easier to keep serving Blue that they’re used to. And it’s also possible for the Red lobster farmer to shift to Blue lobsters with some effort, but it takes time to raise those lobsters. But… it just so happens Marvell’s competitor Nvidia bought out all the Red Lobsters for their restaurant. In the end, they still need those rare blue Maine lobsters. But just decided to steam it themselves. That’s $POET and $MRVL situation. It’s likely they’ll just go buy lobsters directly since you can’t just spawn Blue lobsters.
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serenity stock 这个说法不错
@notthreadguy 我喜欢 “serenity stock” 这个说法。
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@notthreadguy I like the term serenity stock
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MTSI 不是短线股
@6m3k4z $MTSI 不是日内交易标的。
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@6m3k4z $MTSI is not a day trader.
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MTSI 参股 IQE 怎么会看空
@JeremyMaine4 $MTSI 想买下 $IQE 的债务并成为战略投资者？这怎么可能是利空。
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@JeremyMaine4 $MTSI plans to buy $IQE out of debt and be a strategic investor? How could this be bearish.
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供应链不同层级不能混为一谈
@soscoder 它们处在供应链的不同环节。就像问 $CMG 的墨西哥卷饼能不能当成 AI 领域的 $NVDA GPU 替代品一样。
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@soscoder They're different parts of the supply chain. It's like asking if $CMG burritos be an $NVDA GPU alternative to AI.
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MTSI 接手 IQE 是大利好
@LNMDad $MTSI 接手 $IQE 的债务并成为战略投资者，这非常正面。
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@LNMDad This is incredibly positive having $MTSI take $IQE out of debt and be a strategic investor.
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MTSI 拟投 IQE 4500 万美元
刚刚，$MTSI 计划向 $IQE 投资 4500 万美元，并进入董事会。 我说什么来着，匿名网友？？Landmark 早就产能过剩了…… + IQE 在光子供应链里本来就是结构性卡点，市值才 1 亿美元时就已经是这样了。 这笔交易也是为了锁定长期外延晶圆供应。 https://t.co/lS2TGFI6v6
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Just now, $MTSI looking to invest $45 Million into $IQE and sit on the board. What did I say anon??? Landmark was overcapacity... + IQE was a structural chokepoint in photonics the supply chain back at $100M MC. This deal is also to secure long term epiwafer supply. https://t.co/lS2TGFI6v6
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AAOI 也可能是潜在客户
谢谢提醒。 $AAOI 也有可能是其中之一，因为他们在 OFC 上宣布了一个 ELSFP。 他们通常都是自家代工，然后卖成品光模块。他们有这种可选性。 但我不认为这和 $SIVE 设计进 Celestial 的架构是一样的？我得再研究一下。
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Thanks for reminding me. It's possible for $AAOI could to be one since they announced a ELSFP at OFC. They usually just do captive and sell the finished optical transceivers. They have the optionality to. But I don't think it matches the same architecture that $SIVE designed into Celestial? Will need to look into it more.
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MRVL 可能直接向 SIVE 采购
@mpunaskar 这件事挺微妙的，不算完全正面，但也可能最终更正面。 我猜 $MRVL 很可能会直接向 $SIVE 采购。 直接对接超大规模云厂商，比如 Sivers + $JBL，要比中间再加一家公司正面得多。
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@mpunaskar It's nuanced, it's not positive but could end up more positive. It's very likely $MRVL just buys directly from $SIVE is my guess. Going direct to hyperscaler like Sivers + $JBL is much more positive than adding in another company in the middle.