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AXTI光子学原料受出口禁令影响,数月后或现瓶颈。
@0x_ysn 这与存储芯片关系不大,因为 $AXTI 涉及的是光子学(Photonics)输入端,几个月内会出现瓶颈。我们将看到西方公司在两周前的出口禁令后,还有多少个月的原料/前驱体库存可供消耗。
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@0x_ysn Not really related to memory since $AXTI is for photonics inp bottleneck in a few months time. We’ll see how many months of feedstock/precursors Western companies have + use up post export-ban 2 weeks ago.
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澄清MRAM不属于英伟达或美光HBM4堆栈。
@Lotharinvest $MRAM 并不位于 $NVDA / $MU 的高带宽内存第四代(HBM4) 堆栈内部。
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@Lotharinvest $MRAM does not sit inside the $NVDA / $MU HBM4 stack.
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梳理受益于美光及三星的HBM4供应链中小市值美股标的。
存储超级周期供应链要点: 受益于 $MU 和 SK/三星的美国冷门 HBM4/存储阿尔法标的: $VECO ($20亿) - 激光退火 $PLAB ($21亿) - 光刻掩模版 $ADEA ($21.8亿) - 混合键合 $ACLS ($29亿) - 离子注入 $FORM ($64.3亿) - HBM晶圆测试 $ONTO ($106亿) - 封装量测 $AMKR ($131亿) - 先进封装 $RMBS ($135.5亿) - 存储IP $MKSI ($149亿) - 激光子系统 未包含 $TER 和 $KLAC 等巨头,只想聚焦于知名度较低的标的。 还有一些间接受益者如 $SMTC 和 $MTSI。市场肯定尚未完全定价其中部分标的。 如果我漏掉了任何标的请告诉我。 只是想发布这些,以防你们对其中任何一只感兴趣。
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Memory Supercycle Supply Chain TLDR: US Sleeper HBM4/Memory alpha picks that benefit from $MU and SK/Samsung: $VECO ($2B) -Laser annealing $PLAB ($2.1B) - Lithography photomask $ADEA ($2.18B) - Hybrid bonding $ACLS ($2.9B) - Ion implantation $FORM ($6.43B) - HBM wafer testing $ONTO ($10.6B) - Packaging metrology $AMKR ($13.1B) -Advanced packaging $RMBS ($13.55B) - Memory IP $MKSI ($14.9B) - Laser subsystems Didn't include big players like $TER and $KLAC since just wanted to focus on lesser known ones. There's some indirect beneficiaries too like $SMTC and $MTSI. Markets definitely haven't priced some of these in yet. Let me know if I missed any. Just wanted to publish these in case you find any of them interesting.
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解析特斯拉机器人供应链瓶颈,强调寻找早期Alpha而非跟风。
我通常不会回复这种别有用心的诱导性问题,但我正在发布关于与特斯拉Optimus机器人相关的机器人供应链股票的信息综合。不幸的是,我试图发现阿尔法(Alpha),以便在早期找到下一个从$30涨到$453的$SNDK,而不是像$SOFI、$ASTS、$TSLA那样对已知的金融科技主题进行多头喊单以寻求确认偏误(Confirmation Bias)。人们似乎真的很讨厌当信息被证明方向正确,且像$OSS这样的公司获得60%以上的重估(Re-rated)时。如果信息错误,该公司第二天就会崩盘,而不是像$LPTH那样不断上涨。没人知道市场如何对信息进行定价,它可能是对的也可能是错的。而且我无法控制扫描我帖子的高频交易(HFT)算法。话虽如此,$VPG当天收盘持平。这是一个与机器人量产挂钩的多头头寸,Citron等几家机构去年已经入场。考虑到机器人行业的拐点,它现在只是处于雷达之下。
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I normally don’t reply to disingenuous leading questions like this but I’m posting information synthesis on robotic supply chain stocks linked to Tesla Optimus. Unfortunately I try and discover alpha to find the next $30->$453 $SNDK at the start rather than bull posting the same known $SOFI, $ASTS, $TSLA finx theme for confirmation bias. And people really seem to dislike when the information turns out to be directionally right and companies like $OSS get re-rated 60%+. If it wasn’t, the company would crash the next day instead of constantly going up like $LPTH Nobody knows how markets price in the information, it could be right or wrong. And I have no control what HFT algorithms do that scan my posts. That being said $VPG ended the day flat. This is a long position tethered to humanoid ramp that several institution like Citron already entered last year. It’s just under the radar now considering the inflection point for robotics.
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VPG被视为机器人领域的Lite,因市场未聚焦该供应链而鲜为人知。
@StockStormX 是的,$VPG 之于机器人/$TSLA Optimus 的量产爬坡,就像 $LITE 之于 Google TPU。由于市场尚未聚焦于机器人供应链,它并不广为人知。
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@StockStormX Yeah $VPG is like the $LITE (Google TPU) for robotics/ $TSLA Optimus ramp up. Not very well known since markets haven't focused on robotics supply chains yet
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美股AI/半导体股隔夜恐慌后大幅反弹,验证地缘博弈下的供应链套利机会。
$ONDS 至 $LPTH 现已反弹 +7.16% 至 +9.0%。 甚至 $INTC 也上涨了 4.4%。 许多股票在隔夜交易中下跌了 -5% 至 -8%。 还有其他人利用 TACO 交易恐慌获利吗? https://t.co/uwp9sW7sQn
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$ONDS to $LPTH are now back up +7.16% to +9.0%. Even $INTC is up 4.4%. Many were down -5% to -8% overnight trading. Did anyone else take advantage of the TACO trade panic? https://t.co/uwp9sW7sQn
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特朗普关税恐慌是估值礼物,国防与本土AI供应链将受益于政策博弈。
关于$OSS -6.1%至$ONDS -4.85%下跌引发的潜在市场崩盘恐慌很多。但随着市场转红,特朗普已开始降级局势。从特朗普关税的历史来看,我们知道一件事:特朗普非常在意市场: - $AVAV的复制者(Replicator)Switchblade无人机项目 至 - 复制者2(Replicator 2)反无人机系统,$AIRO、$ONDS等可能受益。 1.5万亿美元的拟议国防支出保持不变。 AI建设中的 - $LITE、$COHR在$GOOGL和超大规模ASIC建设中的角色 或 - $INTC、$SKY在美国本土硬件中的角色 均未改变。我们正见证历史上最大的无人机、关键材料储备、AI建设、太空扩张及“美国制造”供应链的扩张。 我认为这种波动往往是“估值礼物”,因为这些都是空头威胁。欧美领导人之间的泄露消息显示对话正在进行。特朗普只是在用“极限施压”话术看能谈判到什么。当然,特朗普将标普500视为其实时支持率,这就是为什么他在中期选举前迫使大幅降息。随着美股隔夜转红,我们已看到局势缓和。我们很可能会看到完整的“贸易协议达成”,以便他宣称成功->市场创历史新高。
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There's a lot of panic about a potential market crash from $OSS -6.1% to $ONDS -4.85% dropping ON. But now, Trump is already starting to de-escalate as markets go red. From the history of Trump's tariffs We know one thing. Trump cares too much about the market: $1.5T in proposed defense spending from - $AVAV Replicator Switchblade drone programs to - Replicator 2 counter-UAV with potential for $AIRO, $ONDS and others. is still the same. Nothing in the AI buildout from - $LITE, $COHR role in $GOOGL and hyperscaler ASIC buildout or - $INTC, $SKY role in US domestic hardware has changed. We're seeing the largest buildup from drone, critical material stockpiles, AI buildout, Space scale-up, and Made in America supply chains in history. My opinion is that this volatility is often a "valuation gift" since these are all empty threats. And the leaked messages between the EU/US leaders shows dialogue is taking place. Trump is just doing his "Maximum Pressure" rhetoric to see what can be negotiated. And, of course, Trump views the S&P 500 as his real-time approval rating, which is why he's forcing so many rate cuts before midterm elections. As US markets go red overnight, we're seeing the walk-back happen already. And we'll likely see that full "trade-deal made" so he can claim he succeeded -> markets hit ATHs.
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Lightpath的锗是AI供应链关键瓶颈
@bennybigbull 我原本有关于 $LPTH 和 $AXTI 的深度撰写案例,但文章太长所以我删减了一个。不过是的,Lightpath 的锗(Germanium)是主要瓶颈之一 https://t.co/1cUXeoXMbX
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@bennybigbull I originally had two examples with $LPTH and $AXTI in depth writeups but the article got too long so I trimmed one of them. But yes Lightpath for Germanium is one of the big bottlenecks https://t.co/1cUXeoXMbX
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感谢提及,指出光子学领域存在诸多供应链瓶颈。
@crux_capital_ 感谢提及!希望内容略有启发。光子学(Photonics)领域存在诸多瓶颈,相信你会对该领域感兴趣。
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@crux_capital_ Appreciate the shoutout! Hope it was slightly informative There’s a lot of photonics related bottlenecks so I’m sure you’d be interested in that area
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区分数据中心重估与新瓶颈发现的投资逻辑差异。
像 $NBIS 或 $CIFR 这样的公司是 2026 年高确信度的标的。但这与一家市值 5000 万美元的小众公司突然因 $NVDA 或 $MSFT 囤货而需求激增的情况不同。数据中心(DC)相关股票可能获得 1 年 2-3 倍的估值重估,但这与新瓶颈带来的 2000%+ 信息发现效应截然不同。像 $UUUU 或 $MP 这样的已知瓶颈也是如此。话说回来,我在文章中把磷化铟(indium phosphide)和导弹拼错了,可以看出我是手写的(也很尴尬)。
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Companies like $NBIS or $CIFR are high conviction for 2026. But it’s not the same as a small $50m niche company, suddenly being in over-demand from $NVDA or $MSFT stockpiling inventory. You might get a 2-3x 1Y re-rating with DCs but it’s a different story than 2000%+ information discovery of a new bottleneck. Same with known bottlenecks like $UUUU or $MP That being said I also misspelled indium phosphide and missiles in my article so you can tell I hand wrote it (also embarrassing)
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博主调侃自己为磷化铟涨价欢呼,暗示其稀缺性价值。
@jukan05 我为磷化铟(InP)相关价格上涨欢呼,我是个坏人吗?我不可能是唯一一个这么想的人。
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@jukan05 Am I a bad person cheering on InP related price hikes? I can’t be the only one
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分析WOLF、LPKFF等AI供应链瓶颈股的投资潜力与稳定性。
$WOLF 在重组后可能是上面最有趣的一个。 $LPKFF 也涉及玻璃基板,且拥有激光诱导深蚀刻技术,市值仅 $1.69 亿,因此可能具有最具爆发力的 10 倍上行空间。 $MTRN 可能是上面最稳定的一个,鉴于其拥有约占全球 65% 的铍(Beryllium)储量,上行空间相当可观。 还有其他几只,但要么基本面真的很差,要么其瓶颈环节过于小众。 例如 $LPTH 的瓶颈横跨国防、AI、无人机等多个领域。 $AXTI 的瓶颈规模很大,而 AI 本身就是一个巨大的板块,因此不需要分散(尽管磷化铟(InP)也用于许多其他领域)。
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$WOLF was probably the most interesting one up there after restructuring. $LPKFF also for glass substrates and they own the laser induced deep etching at a $169m MC, so possibly most explosive 10x upside. $MTRN is probably the most stable one up there with decently high upside given it owns the mountain for ~65% of the world's Beryllium. There were a few others but just the fundamentals were either really bad or their bottleneck was too niche. $LPTH's bottleneck for example spreads across both defense, AI, drones, etc. $AXTI's bottleneck was so big and AI is such a big sector so it doesn't need to be spread across (but InP is used in a lot of other sectors too).
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梳理西方供应链瓶颈小盘股,警示基本面风险,看好部分标的5倍潜力。
个人研究摘要。 西方供应链瓶颈如 $LPTH 和 $AXTI: $MTRN - 铍(Spor Mountain) $HALEU - 铀 | 小型模块化反应堆(SMRs) $ESE - 太空燃料箱(通过 Vacco) $GHM - 真空喷射器与表面冷凝器 | 美国海军 $FEIM - 原子钟 $OPXS - 光激光潜望镜 $TAYD - 振动 $PKE - 热 $VNP.TO - 西方镓 $TDY - 抗辐射图像传感器 $RDW - 展开式太阳能电池阵列 $PDFS - 英特尔 18A 的 Exensio 良率 $WOLF - 碳化硅 $RELL - 超级电容器与磁控管 $CPSH - 热管理/铝碳化硅 $VREX - X 射线管 $GSM - 西方金属硅 $INTT - 极端热循环 $CODA - 浊度(浑浊) $NTI - 腐蚀 $PLAB - 光掩模 $MKSI - 等离子体控制 $KULR - 爆炸性热量 $PESI - 放射性混合废物。 $CVV - 气相沉积成固。 $LPKFF - 激光诱导深刻蚀/玻璃基板 这些只是我研究的更多“低调”小盘股 -> 最终选择了 $AXTI 和 $LPTH,如果有人感兴趣的话。 其中许多尽管至关重要,但基本面很差,例如:$IQE(已广为人知),所以盲目买入瓶颈股并不是个好主意。 还有更多我尚未完成研究的(因此未列入),要找出那些尚未被定价的标的要难得多。 但如果其中许多在未来一年上涨 5 倍,我也不会感到惊讶。
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Personal TLDR research. Western supply chain bottlenecks like $LPTH and $AXTI: $MTRN - Beryllium (Spor Mountain) $HALEU - Uranium | SMRs $ESE - Space fuel tanks (through Vacco) $GHM - Vacuum Ejectors & Surface Condensers | U.S. Navy $FEIM - Atomic Clocks $OPXS - Light Laser Periscopes $TAYD - Vibration $PKE - Heat $VNP.TO - Western gallium $TDY - Rad-Hard Image Sensors $RDW - Roll-Out Solar Arrays $PDFS - Exensio Yield for Intel 18A $WOLF - Silicon Carbide $RELL - Ultracapacitors & Magnetrons $CPSH - Thermal / Aluminum Silicon Carbide $VREX - X-Ray Tubes $GSM - Western Silicon Metal $INTT - Extreme Thermal Cycling $CODA - Turbidity (Murkiness) $NTI - Corrosion $PLAB - Photomask $MKSI - Plasma Control $KULR - Explosive Heat $PESI - Radioactive mixed waste. $CVV - Gas-to-Solid Deposition. $LPKFF - Laser Induced Deep Etching/ Glass Substrates These are just more of the "under the radar" small caps I was researching -> ended up choosing $AXTI and $LPTH if people were interested. Lot of them have terrible fundamentals despite being vital eg: $IQE (already pretty known), so it's not a good idea to just blindly buy a bottleneck. There were a lot more out there I haven't finished researching (so didn't include), and it's a lot harder to pinpoint ones that haven't been priced in. But wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these went up 5x over the next year.
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质疑$OPTX财务状况,计划研究太空供应链。
@beardookies $OPTX 看起来是低地球轨道(LEO)瓶颈的一个有趣提及。 不过他们的资产负债表看起来糟透了,手头现金仅57.8万美元,债务却高达950万美元。 我接下来将开始研究太空供应链。
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@beardookies $OPTX looks like an interesting mention for LEO bottlenecks Their balance sheet looks atrocious though with $578k cash on hand and $9.5M debt. I’ll start researching space supply chains next
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半导体板块分化,部分厂商因OpenAI诉讼风险受市场重估。
@8l8220656450 半导体板块整体没问题。只是某些供应商与 OpenAI 深度绑定,而许多其他公司如 $TSM 到 $MU 则相对独立。我确实看好 Elon,但我们将看到市场如何定价影响 OpenAI 关联公司的诉讼。
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@8l8220656450 Semiconductor space will be fine. Just certain vendors are heavily tethered toward OpenAI while many others like $TSM to $MU are more isolated. I do like Elon, but we'll see how markets price in the lawsuit impacting OpenAI relational companies
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分析AI算力股与云厂商的算法关联及市场定价不确定性。
$GOOGL / Gemini 可能正在公开为这一结果欢呼。像 $CIFR 这样的公司主要通过 Fluidstack 与 Google 紧密绑定。然而,正如我们在上一轮下跌中所见,$NBIS 到 $IREN 在算法上被关联到 Oracle 和 Coreweave,无论 OpenAI 的关系影响如何。不确定市场这次会如何对此进行定价。
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$GOOGL / Gemini is probably openly cheering for this outcome. Companies like $CIFR are largely tethered to Google through Fluidstack. However, as we've seen last drop, $NBIS to $IREN were algorithmically associated with Oracle and Coreweave regardless of OpenAi relational impact. Not sure how markets price this in this time.
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马斯克起诉OpenAI或引发AI产业链连锁反应,市场已部分定价该风险。
突发:埃隆·马斯克起诉 OpenAI,索赔 1340 亿美元。 预测市场今日给出的马斯克胜诉概率为 59%。 这可能令人担忧。 如果 OpenAI 败诉: 市场可能会引发与 OpenAI 相关的 AI 生态系统连锁反应(Contagion)。 $AMD 或 $CRWV 以及像 $ORCL(Stargate 项目)到 $MSFT 这样的公司将是巨大的输家,因为它们严重依赖 OpenAI。 此外,还有涉及 Coreweave 的 $APLD 和 $CORZ 等公司的三阶效应(Third-order effects)。 $AMD 的合作伙伴如 $RIOT 也是如此。 例如: 1. 微软/甲骨文 -> 数十亿美元的投资减值,建设 + GPU 利用率滞后将造成数十亿美元损失 2. CoreWeave -> 积压订单收入面临巨大风险,利用率滞后 + 已因巨额债务利息而处于风险之中 3. APLD / CORZ -> 依赖 Coreweave 的收入,如果租户倒闭,其短期收入也会随之下降。 如果 OpenAI 被迫支付巨额赔偿金,回归严格的非营利地位,或因流动性危机破产(无法履行合同义务): 这可能会触发许多与 OpenAI 相关的 AI 板块股票的连锁反应事件。 当然,这是最坏的情况。 我的预期是中间地带: -> 马斯克赢得审判(或在判决前迫使达成和解)。 -> OpenAI 被迫支付巨额罚款(例如 100 亿 -200 亿美元)并可能开源其旧模型 -> $MSFT 可能会介入支付罚款或重组债务,因为利害关系太大。 或者在马斯克 41% 的败诉概率下:无事发生,与 OpenAI 相关的公司将安然无恙。 然而,市场似乎已经通过甲骨文($330 -> $195)和 Coreweave($150 -> $101)的价格大幅调整,定价了 OpenAI 连锁反应风险带来的大量不确定性。 这起诉讼绝对是市场关注的最大事件之一。
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Breaking: Elon Musk has sued OpenAI for $134 Billion. Prediction markets have priced the odds of Elon winning at 59% as of today. This may be alarming. If OpenAI loses this: Markets may trigger a contagion across the AI ecosystem tied to OpenAI. $AMD or $CRWV and companies like $ORCL (Stargate) to $MSFT are massive losers as they're heavily levered to OpenAI. Then there's third order effects on companies as $APLD and $CORZ involved to Coreweave. Same goes with $AMD partners, such as $RIOT. For example: 1. Microsoft / Oracle -> Write down billions in investment, buildout + GPU utilization lag would cost billions 2. CoreWeave -> Massive risk to backlog revenue, utilization lag + already at risk due to massive debt interest 3. APLD / CORZ -> Depend on Coreweave for revenue, if the tenant goes down, so does their near term revenue. If OpenAI are forced to pay massive damages, return to a strict non-profit status, or declare bankruptcy due to liquidity crises (and cannot fulfill its contractual obligations): This might trigger a contagion event across many AI sector names tied to OpenAI. Of course this is the worst case scenario. My expectation is middle ground: -> Musk wins the trial (or forces a settlement just before the verdict). -> OpenAI is forced to pay a massive fine (e.g., $10B–$20B) and possibly open-source its older models -> $MSFT likely steps in to pay the fine or restructure the debt since there's too much at stake. Or in the 41% chance Musk loses: nothing happens, and companies tied to OpenAI will be fine. However it looks markets already priced in a lot of that uncertainty with OpenAI contagion risk with Oracle ($330 -> $195) and Coreweave ($150 -> $101). This lawsuit is definitely one of the biggest events markets are watching.
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识别AI供应链中工程变通与瓶颈环节的投资机会
@crux_capital_ 写得很好!我相信所有参与者都能从中受益,无论是像 $POET 和 $ALMU 这样的工程变通方案(Engineering Workarounds),还是像 $AXTI 这样的瓶颈环节本身。通过识别正确的参与者,存在大量机会。
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@crux_capital_ Great writeup! I'm sure all players benefit both in engineering workarounds like $POET and $ALMU as well as the bottleneck itself like $AXTI. Lot of opportunities by identifying the right players.
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类比特斯拉入华催生比亚迪,担忧台积电赴美建厂可能意外培育出美国本土芯片竞争对手。
我的意思是,$TSM 在美国建厂让我隐约想起当年 $TSLA 去中国生产电动汽车(EV)的情况,不过是反向的。当时大家都认为 $TSLA 通过在中国建厂会成为市场领导者 -> 结果 $BYD 作为副产品崛起,成为了中国本土电动汽车的领导者。我确信会有某种防火墙,更先进的制程节点仍留在台湾,但对于 $INTC 来说,谁也不敢保证。
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I mean $TSM building in US vaguely reminds me of the time $TSLA went to China for EVs but in reverse. Everyone thought $TSLA would be the market leader by building in China -> then $BYD popped out as China's domestic EV leader as a byproduct. I'm sure there's some sort of firewall with more advanced nodes staying in Taiwan, but you never know with $INTC.
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确认InP供应链属国安优先,短期加剧ATI瓶颈,AXT略偏多。
好问题,我当时没把1+1联系起来,错过了对$AXTI的单跳关联影响。我的观点是,短期/中期基本无影响,但由于有6个月的空窗期,对AXT略微偏多。Emcore相比之下非常小,但美国政府正试图掌控上游控制的任何微小份额。这证实了美国政府现在将磷化铟(InP)供应链视为国家安全优先事项,并验证了我之前提出的InP瓶颈论点。TLDR:行政令接管InP供应链资产是为了长期摆脱对中国的依赖,但短期/中期$ATI的瓶颈甚至更严重。
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Good question, I didn't put 1+1 together at the time and missed the one-hop relational impact with $AXTI. My take is basically, no impact short/medium term, but leans slightly positive for AXT since there's a 6 month limbo. Emcore is very tiny in comparison, but US gov is trying to gain control of any little % of the upstream control. This was just affirmation that US government now views InP supply chains as a national security priority and is validating the InP bottlenek thesis I put out earlier. TLDR: EOs seizing InP supply chain assets was a move to regain independence from China long term, but short-medium term bottleneck is even more severe with $ATI
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特朗普行政令强制剥离InP资产,验证供应链瓶颈,利好AXTI等西方替代厂商。
行政令:“特朗普总统命令HieFo剥离磷化铟(Indium Phosphide, InP)资产” 关于1月2日行政令的后续报道显示,特朗普总统针对的是HieFo旗下Emcore Corp.的InP晶圆制造业务。 由于$AXTI和住友控制着约80%的供应链(Fastmarket Research数据),通过强制出售,美国可能确保InP供应链继续服务于美国国防承包商和AI半导体。 最初关于2日的报道对“芯片设计和制造资产”的表述较为宽泛,对InP的提及较少。 但现在很清楚,InP供应链已成为美国政府为了维持AI建设而面临的“无声紧急状态”。 如果美国总统签署行政令以获取InP供应链,这进一步验证了InP瓶颈论点。 我们可能会看到第三阶效应: -> 美国开始加速从$POET(光学中介层)到$ALMU(量子点)的工程替代方案。 -> InP瓶颈在短期内加剧,利好$AXTI(InP供应链+衬底)。 -> 可能影响$LITE及光学供应商的供应链中断(分析师报告对此有争议,涉及库存问题)。 -> 在Sumitomo/JX被出口管制切断对华材料供应后,西方替代品如$COHR变得更为关键。
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Executive Order: "President Trump orders HieFo to divest indium phosphide assets" A follow-up report on the Jan 2nd EO shows that President Trump targeted HieFo's InP wafer fabrication operations of Emcore Corp. As $AXTI and Sumitomo control ~80% of the supply chain (Fastmarket Research), by forcing the sale, the US likely ensures the InP supply chain remains available for US defense contractors and AI semiconductors. The original reporting on the 2nd was broad regarding the "chip design and fabrication assets" with light references to InP. But it's now clear this is now InP supply chains is becoming a silent emergency for the US government so the AI buildout continues. This is further validation of the InP bottleneck thesis if the US President is now signing executive orders to gain access to the InP supply chain. We'll likely see third order effects where: -> US starts rushes engineering alternatives from $POET (optical interposers) to $ALMU (quantum dot) -> InP bottleneck increase near term with $AXTI (InP supply chains + substrates) -> Potential influence supply chain disruption of $LITE and optical suppliers (this is debated from analyst reports over stockpiled) -> Western alternatives like $COHR becoming more critical after Sumitomo/JX are blocked off China material supply from export controls.
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Citron推断VGP为特斯拉Optimus供应商,作者澄清属非正式映射。
@ifreebirdie 是的,忘了包含它们,Citron 推断 $VGP 是 $TSLA Optimus 的供应商。 我也再次像最初的 $SSYS 文章那样措辞有些强烈,它们都是非正式的映射。很多事情并非公开信息。https://t.co/LBWGWbnySF
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@ifreebirdie Yeah forgot to include them, $VGP inferred to be $TSLA Optimus supplier per Citron. I also worded things a bit strongly again like the original $SSYS piece, they're all casual mapping. A lot of things aren't public information. https://t.co/LBWGWbnySF
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询问关于机器人领域相关公司的信息来源。
@VotrubaLog 感谢提及 $MOD 和 $LINK。我做了一些挖掘,但没找到任何关于上述机器人玩家(如 Figure/波士顿动力/Optimus)的链接。我是否漏掉了什么来源?
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@VotrubaLog Thanks for the $MOD and $LINK mentions. I did some digging but couldn’t find any links to robotics players above eg. Figure/Boston dynamics/optimus. Were there any sources I missed?
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巨头垂直整合软件,投资无法整合的瓶颈环节更优。
虽然我喜欢 $PDYN,因为它能填补像 $RCAT 和 $DPRO 这样的小公司留下的空白,但在这里它们没有用武之地。 我关注的是波士顿动力、特斯拉、Figure 等机器人的规模化扩张。它们都像 $TSLA 的 Dojo AI5 + XAI 那样垂直整合自己的软件。 $META 等巨头没有任何动力将它们的软件栈交给 $PDYN。 它们都尽可能地进行垂直整合,因此,如果你能 pinpoint(锁定)那些在无法垂直整合的环节拥有有效垄断(即“瓶颈”)的公司,那么随着这些公司规模的扩大,投资这些瓶颈环节应该会获得回报。
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So while I like $PDYN since they fill in the gaps with smaller companies like $RCAT and $DPRO. They have no role here. I'm focused on robotics scale-up with Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure, and others. They all vertically integrate their own software, like $TSLA Dojo AI5 + XAI. There's 0 incentive for any of these giant companies from $META and others to give their software stack over to $PDYN. They all try and vertically integrate where they can, so if you pinpoint the companies that have effective monopolies "aka. bottlenecks" where they can't, then investing in those should be rewarding as these companies scale up.
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特斯拉Optimus供应链无法从零构建,仍受关键部件瓶颈制约。
埃隆无法从零开始建立Optimus的供应链,因为这是不可能的。也许15年后才行。 他很可能指的是从设计到组装的垂直整合。 特斯拉在磁体($MP)、来自$LPTH的黑钻、来自$SYSS的框架材料、三花智控的线性执行器以及其他先进材料和晶圆厂供应商方面仍存在瓶颈。 像$AMBA这样处于产业链上游的公司,随着特斯拉制造其定制芯片,可能会被剔除。
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Elon cannot build out Optimus supply chain from scratch since it's impossible. Maybe in 15 years. He is likely talking about vertical integration from design/assembly. Tesla is still bottlenecked by magnets $MP, black diamond from $LPTH, frame materials from $SYSS, linear actuators from Sanhua, and others advanced materials and fab suppliers. Stuff like $AMBA, which is higher up on the chain might get cut off as Tesla makes their custom chips.
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梳理机器人供应链瓶颈,看好TKR、SYSS等美国本土替代标的。
波士顿动力/Optimus/机器人供应链摘要(TLDR): - $ALGM ($65亿) 电机/传感 (Optimus) - $NOVT ($47亿) 反馈 (Atlas, Figure) - $VICR ($65亿) 电源 (Atlas) - $OUST ($16.4亿) 激光雷达(LiDAR) (Spot, Atlas) - $AMBA ($27亿) - 芯片 (Atlas, Figure) - $AEHR ($8.12亿) - 碳化硅(SiC)测试 (t2) - $RRX ($105亿) - 关节 (Agility, Apollo) - $TKR ($65.3亿) - 谐波应变 (t2) - $MP ($118.2亿) - 钕镨磁铁 (t3) - $LSCC ($116亿) - 传感器融合FPGA (t3) 我个人的持仓: - $SYSS ($9.98亿) - 骨架 (Optimus, Atlas, Figure) - $LPTH ($7.01亿) - 视觉 (T2) 在OpenAI昨日推进机器人业务后,我研究了这些公司,并想以摘要格式分享发现。 再次强调,机器人原始设备制造商(OEM)通常不公布物料清单(BOM),因此大多数已确认,部分未确认但通过交叉引用公开资料极可能属实。 但我们应看到机器人行业在2026-2027年迎来拐点。 思考: - 哈默纳科(Harmonic Drive Systems, 6324.T)。我此前将其视为领导者,但他们刚被中国Leaderdrive以40%更低成本复制技术所颠覆。 - 基于此,$TKR (美国)可能是最具“超额收益(alpha)”的标的,因为通过收购Cone Drive,他们成为相对于哈默纳科/Leaderdrive的主要美国谐波齿轮供应商。 - $AMBA和$VICR可能是我在美国供应链中发现的除$SYSS外最有趣的标的。 - 我选择$SYSS作为机器人瓶颈敞口的首选,因为他们是每个量产人形机器人的骨架/材料(例如已知用户包括波士顿动力Atlas),且拥有有效的美国认证垄断地位。 - $LPTH碰巧也是机器人瓶颈敞口,因为我购买它也是出于对国防部/军事瓶颈敞口的考虑。 这些只是美国大规模量产中“雷达下”的标的。除了两个持仓外,我不持有其他任何标的,但我仍在研究它们。 不幸的是,许多供应链如$TSLA的执行器(与三花智控的6.85亿美元订单)仍在中国。但我预计许多将回流美国,因此仍在寻找供应链BOM方面的超额收益。 如果我遗漏了任何标的,欢迎补充。
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Boston Dynamics/Optimus/Robotic supply chains TLDR: - $ALGM ($6.5B) motor/sensing (Optimus) - $NOVT ($4.7B) feedback (Atlas, Figure) - $VICR ($6.5B) power (Atlas) - $OUST ($1.64B) LiDAR (Spot, Atlas) - $AMBA ($2.7B) - Chips (Atlas, Figure) - $AEHR ($812m) - SiC Test (t2) - $RRX ($10.5B) - Joints (Agility, Apollo) - $TKR ($6.53B) - Harmonic Strain (t2) - $MP ($11.82B) - NdPr magnets (t3) - $LSCC ($11.6B) - Sensor Fusion FPGAs (t3) I'm personally in: - $SYSS ($998M) - Skeleton (Optimus, Atlas, Figure) - $LPTH ($701M) - Vision (T2) Was researching these companies after OpenAI's push into robotics yesterday and wanted to do a TLDR format of findings. Again, robotics OEMs generally don't publish BOMs, so most of these are confirmed but some are unconfirmed but very likely from cross-referencing public findings. But we should see an inflection point for robotics going into 2026-2027. Thoughts: - Harmonic Drive Systems (6324.T). Was tracking this as the leader but they just got disrupted by China's Leaderdrive that copied their technology and at 40% lower cost. - Based on this, $TKR (US) is probably the most "alpha" up there since through Cone Drive acqusition, they're the primary US-based provider of harmonic gearing vs. Harmonic Drive / Leaderdrive. - $AMBA and $VICR are probably the most interesting ones outside of $SYSS that I've found in the US supply chains. - I picked $SYSS as my choice for robotics bottleneck exposure since they're the skeletons/materials for each humanoid on scale up (eg. with Boston Dynamics Atlas as known users) and effective US certification monopoly. - $LPTH happened to be a coincidental Robotics bottleneck exposure since I bought this for DoD/military bottleneck exposure too . These are just the "under the radar ones" in the US for the mass production scale-up. Don't own any of them aside from two, but I'm still looking into them. Unfortunately many supply chains like $TSLA's actuators ($685M order with Sanhua) are still in China. But I expect many of them to flow back to the US, so still looking for alpha in terms of supply chain BOM. If I missed any feel free to mention others.
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SSYS作为人形机器人骨架供应商,处于多家巨头供应链底部。
是的,我正在梳理波士顿动力、特斯拉Optimus、Meta人形机器人等的供应链。而$SSYS恰好处于所有这些供应链的底部,作为所有人形机器人的骨架/框架。例如,Atlas放弃了金属框架,转而采用Stratasys的Nylon 12CF(碳纤维)用于肢体。
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Yeah I was going down the supply chains of Boston Dynamics, Tesla Optimus, Meta Humanoids, and others. And $SSYS happened to be at the bottom of them all as the skeleton/frame of all the humanoids. EG. Atlas abandoned metal frames for Stratasys Nylon 12CF (carbon fiber) for the limbs
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SSYS作为人形机器人底层框架被忽视,市场聚焦AI而非机器人供应链。
$SSYS 基本上就是像波士顿动力 Atlas 这样的人形机器人的框架。营收较低是因为从特斯拉到 Figure 还没有任何一家实现规模化。但市场关注的是 $MOG.A(执行器)、$VICR(能源)、$AMBA(Figure、视觉)等更大牌的名字。然而,这家小公司处于整个链条的底层。大家都在深入研究 AI 供应链瓶颈,但没人关注机器人或国防领域。
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$SSYS is basically the frames of humanoids like Boston Dynamics Atlas. Revenue was lower because nobody from Tesla to Figure achieved anything at scale yet. But markets were looking at bigger names like $MOG.A (actuators), $VICR (energy), $AMBA (Figure, Vision). However, this small company is kinda at the bottom of it all. Everyone was diving into AI supply chain bottlenecks but nobody was doing Robotics or Defense.
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英伟达与现代合作FSD及波士顿动力量产Atlas。
@ChainHopper 情况是多方面的,但基本上就是 $NVDA 与韩国现代专家合作开发全自动驾驶(FSD)。然后是其波士顿动力部门的大规模量产Atlas机器人。
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@ChainHopper It’s multifaceted but basically $NVDA Hyundai expert partnership for fsd. Then mass production of Atlas from their Boston Dynamics division.
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AXTI因日中出口管制获中长期优势,IQE虽获订单但衬底仍依赖AXTI。
$AXTI 是中国对日出口管制这把双刃剑的主要受益者:短期收入受挫,但中长期掌控了供应链。正如你所说,日本供应链的潜在冲击让 IQE 绝处逢生,这家较小的厂商成为少数“安全”的西方外延代工厂之一。由于超大规模云服务商争相确保非中国产能,其财报中提到的需求可能创下纪录。然而,有趣的是,他们仍从 $AXTI 购买磷化铟(InP)衬底以在其上生长晶体(AXT 将 IQE 列为 InP 衬底的主要海外客户之一),因此瓶颈并未真正改变。
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$AXTI is the main beneficiary of China's export controls on Japan as a double edged sword from short term revenue hit but medium-longer term control over supply chains. As you mentioned the likely Japanese supply chain shock threw IQE a lifeline, since the smaller player became one of the only "safe" Western epi-foundry. And they likely got record demand as mentioned from their earnings because hyperscalers are fighting to secure any non-Chinese capacity. However, funny thing is they still buy the InP substrates from $AXTI to grow the crystals on top (AXT listes IQE as one of the main overseas customers for InP substrates), so bottleneck doesn't exactly change.