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  1. 推荐买入$ALAB,因其高利润率及超跌后的反弹潜力。

    @IncrediBadly $ALAB 是一笔极佳的买入。其利润率高于 $NVDA,且同比增长三位数。该股已从 $250 的高点回落,是绝佳的反弹买入机会。在此价位可能不会做期权交易,但持有股票等待也不无坏处。

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    @IncrediBadly $ALAB is an amazing buy. Higher margins than $NVDA and growing triple digits Y/Y. It's already down from it's $250 high, great recovery buy. Around here probably wouldn't do options but shares can't hurt for waiting.

  2. 回顾对LITE的TPU v7供应链研究,认为其前景好但当前估值略高。

    @itsthesquonky 大约在我对 $LITE 进行 TPU v7 供应链研究的时候! 前景非常令人期待,但目前略微过度延伸。

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    @itsthesquonky Round the time I did supply chain research on TPU v7 for $LITE! Incredibly promising but a tad overextended right now https://t.co/QFojyOiXXP

  3. 日元套利平仓短期利空,中期利好新云板块,建议做多。

    短期日元套利交易平仓(日本加息,美联储降息)带来轻微负面影响。中期影响对成长型资产,尤其是涉及债务驱动增长的“新云”板块(如 $CRWV, $IREN, $NBIS)应极具看多意义。基本面未见放缓迹象,因此我认为现在是做多的好时机。

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    Short term unwinding from yen carry trade (Japan rate hike, fed cut), which was slightly negative. Medium term impact should be incredibly bullish on growth assets, especially Neocloud sector that involve debt for growth like $CRWV, $IREN, $NBIS. Don't see any fundamentals slowing, so great time to go long imo

  4. SMCI因订单延迟致短期利空,但长期增长确定且估值极低,强烈建议买入。

    @LandoInvests 很乐意就 $SMCI 进行辩论,我在文中阐述了其因 2026 年第二季度前瞻性营收积压(Forward Revenue Backlog)而注定复苏的逻辑。 https://t.co/FJj3yXlhGT (该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文,引用内容仅供理解语境): 将 $SMCI 评级上调至极度强烈买入(EXTREMELY STRONG BUY),目标价约 $33(市值约 190 亿美元)。 • 2026 财年营收预期上调至 360 亿美元以上(较 220 亿美元同比增长 60%+)。 • AI 数据中心(AI Data Center)建设(如 $NBIS、$IREN、$DGXX)使 GPU 服务器需求保持最大化。 这并非 $CRDO 那种营收同比增长 272% 的故事,而是被错估的价值。 原因如下: SMCI 财报后下跌源于两点:对利润率压缩(Margin Compression)的担忧和营收不及预期。 1. 2026 年第一季度的“不及预期”实为订单延迟: • 营收为 50 亿美元,低于此前 60-70 亿美元的指引。 • 然而,这仅仅是 15 亿美元推迟至第二季度,客户在等待英伟达 Blackwell Ultra 配置。且公司甚至将全年指引从 330 亿美元上调至 360 亿美元。 2. 利润率压缩担忧: • 2025 财年净利率:约 5.9%(220 亿美元营收对应 13 亿美元净利润)。 • 当前的利润率压缩是暂时的。随着数字租赁中心(Digital Lending Center, DLC)制造沿学习曲线(Learning Curve)下行,单位成本下降,利润率上升。管理层目标下半年毛利率约 11%,净利率回升至约 5.5%。 若毛利率均值回归至约 11%,净利率在 360-380 亿美元营收基础上回归至 5-6%,你将看到 20 亿美元以上的盈利。 营收:380 亿美元 净利率:5.5%(复苏情景) 隐含净利润:20.9 亿美元 股本:6.8 亿股(稀释后) 股价:约 33.85 美元 市盈率计算:33.85 / 3.07 = 11.0 倍 远期市盈率:约 10-13 倍,对于一家拥有 60%+ 远期增长的公司来说,极其便宜。 $SMCI 不依赖 GPU 使用寿命的会计游戏,无论如何它都出售机架。 此外,$NVDA、$NBIS、$CRDO 及其他 AI 数据中心股票在财报后确认 AI 热潮并未放缓。 $SMCI 是 AI/数据中心热潮的核心,同比增长 60%+,但市场却将其视为类似 $MSTR 的困境资产。 因此我建立多头头寸,因为 $SMCI 看起来是硬件板块中风险调整后最具吸引力的 6 个月(中期)交易,拥有 50-100% 的上行空间。

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    @LandoInvests Happy to debate $SMCI, I put my thesis here on why it's bound for a recovery due to forward revenue backlog in Q2 2026. https://t.co/FJj3yXlhGT

  5. 虽非NBIS死忠粉,但看好其基本面改善,愿逢利空卖出。

    @pepemoonboy @Hedgeye 谢谢!不过我并不是 $NBIS 社区的硬核成员。如果基本面发生不利变化,我不怕卖出该股票。但到目前为止,我只看到从母公司到其子公司的积极变化,因此我对该公司的未来感到兴奋。

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    @pepemoonboy @Hedgeye Thanks! I'm not a hardcore $NBIS community member though. If something bad changes to the fundamentals, I'm not afraid to sell the stock. But so far I've only seen positive changes from the parent company down to its subsidiaries so I'm excited for the future of the company.

  6. 看好RKLB与NBIS,认为市场低估了这两家行业第二梯队的成长潜力。

    市场正在错误定价地球上最大板块中的第二梯队玩家。 我对 $RKLB = $NBIS Avride 的论点: 1. 太空领域 ($RKLB) -> SpaceX 估值刚从 $350B 升至 $800B。Rocketlab 将从 $26B 增长至 SpaceX 之前的估值水平。 这只是时间问题。 2. 自动驾驶出租车 (Robotaxis) ($NBIS) Waymo 在一年内从 $45B 涨至 $200B。$NBIS Avride 将从 $6B 增长至 Waymo 之前的估值水平。 这只是时间问题,无论是一年还是四年后。 关于 $NBIS 的关键点是:Avride 只是其众多子公司之一,仅这一家公司在两年内的价值就可能超过当前的整体市值。 市场和空头都错误定价了这样一个事实:Nebius 拥有地球上增长最快、最热门的板块公司,且全部实现 100%+ 的同比增长。 做多 $RKLB,做多 $NBIS。

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    The market is mispricing the #2 players in the biggest sectors on Earth. My thesis on $RKLB = $NBIS Avride 1. Space ( $RKLB ) -> SpaceX just got valued at $800B from $350B. Rocketlab will grow into SpaceX's prev valuation from $26B It's just a matter of time. 2. Robotaxis ( $NBIS ) Waymo went from $45B → $200B in 1 year. $NBIS Avride is going to grow into Waymo's previous valuation from $6B. It's just a matter of time, whether that's 1 year or 4 years from now. And here is the thing with $NBIS: Avride is just one subsidiary out of multiple, and this company alone could be worth more than the entire market cap today in 2 years. Both the market and short sellers misprice the fact that Nebius owns the fastest growing and hottest sector companies on Earth, all growing 100%+ Y/Y. Long $RKLB, Long $NBIS.

  7. IREN和WULF主要涉及可转债套利而非做空。

    @MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye 关于 $IREN 和 $WULF 这类股票,大部分是可转债套利(convertible note arbitrage)而非做空(shorts)。

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    @MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye on stuff like $IREN and $WULF majority is convertible note arbitrage not shorts.

  8. 以OKLO为例,说明做空引发的轧空导致股价大幅飙升。

    @MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye 增加了波动性。我的意思是,看看当 Kerrisdale 做空 $OKLO 时发生了什么。由于空头被挤压(Short Squeeze),其股价在较长周期内从 25 美元飙升至 175 美元。

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    @MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye added volatility. I mean just look at $OKLO when kerrisdale shorted. went from $25 to $175 in the longer run because shorts got squeezed.

  9. RKLB有望追赶SpaceX获10倍回报,Avride有望追赶Waymo。

    @RKLBMan @Hedgeye 是的,我对 $RKLB 的投资论点(Thesis)是,它会在合理的时间内(例如5到7年)追赶上 SpaceX,而 SpaceX 上一轮的估值为3500亿美元,这意味着超过10倍的回报。 我对 Avride 持有相同的论点,它可能会在两三年内追赶上 Waymo 在2024年450亿美元的估值。

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    @RKLBMan @Hedgeye yeah my thesis in $RKLB was that it will catch up to SpaceX in a due amount of time (eg. 5, 7 years) and SpaceX's last valuation was $350B, so that's 10x+ return. Same thesis for Avride, will catch up to Waymo's $45B valuation back in 2024, maybe in two-three years.

  10. Avride是$NBIS核心资产,自动驾驶出租车市场潜力巨大,机构严重低估$NBIS价值。

    根据 Seeking Alpha 报告与 Nuro 的基准对比,其估值现在可能约为 60 亿美元。但我会说 Avride 是 $NBIS 的皇冠明珠,而非 Clickhouse,尤其是当 Waymo 等自动驾驶出租车 (Robotaxi) 公司在短时间内估值飙升至 1000 亿美元以上时。 $TSLA 仅因推出自动驾驶出租车就增加了数千亿美元的价值(例如 Cathie Wood 表示自动驾驶出租车可能占特斯拉价值的 90%),这是一个因参与者稀缺而具有极大上行空间的市场。 基本上只有 $TSLA、$GOOGL 的 Waymo、$AMZN 的 Zoox、现代……以及正试图抵御自动驾驶出租车竞争的 $UBER。 $UBER 通过 Avride 而非与 Waymo 合作来扩大其防御能力至关重要,以避免将客户引导至竞争对手的应用程序(例如他们联合投资了 3.75 亿美元的原因)。 鉴于 $NBIS 拥有 Avride 83% 的股份,如果其规模达到约 450 亿美元市值(这是 Waymo 在 2024 年 10 月的估值)……这实际上超过了 Nebius 今天的市值,而它才刚刚在德克萨斯州启动。 像 Hedgeye 这样的基金可能没有计算 SOP 增长,并且严重低估了 Nebius。

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    Probably around $6B now as per the seeking alpha report benchmarked vs Nuro. But I'd say Avride is crown jewel of $NBIS, not clickhouse, especially when robotaxi companies like Waymo scaled to a $100B+ valuation in a short time. $TSLA gained hundreds of billions in value just due robotaxi launch (eg. Cathie Wood said robotaxis could be 90% of tesla's value) and it's a market with extreme upside due to lack of players. There's basically just $TSLA, $GOOGL Waymo, $AMZN Zoox, Hyundai... and then $UBER which is trying to defend themselves against robotaxi competition. $UBER has the upmost importance to scale its defensibility with Avride instead of partnering with Waymo -> funneling customers into the other app. (eg. why they joint invested $375M). Given how $NBIS owns 83% of avride, if it scales to ~$45B MC, which was Waymo's valuation BACK in October 2024.... That's literally more than Nebius's marketcap today lol, and it just launched in Texas. Funds like Hedgeye probably aren't accounting for SOP growth and are vastly underestimating Nebius.

  11. 反驳Hedgeye做空逻辑,对比Coreweave指出Nebius财务更健康且业务多元。

    做空机构 @Hedgeye 正在做空 Nebius $NBIS。股价现为 $97.8。 他们的观点?Nebius 是 Coreweave 2.0。 Coreweave [ $CRWV ]: - 客户多元化程度低,主要是超大规模云服务商,约四分之一的积压订单来自 OpenAI。 - 剩余现金 18 亿美元。 - 由于 8-10% 利率的有毒融资,每年债务利息超过 13 亿美元。 Nebius 也是如此吗? Nebius [ $NBIS ]: - 在 Neocloud 市场中拥有最高的客户多元化,包括 $META、$MSFT、政府、$SHOP、Mistral、$NOW 等。 - 剩余现金超过 48 亿美元。 - 票据结构约 40%+ 价外(OTM),年利率约 2%,每年利息支出约 7660 万美元。 - 拥有对 $UBER 至关重要的 FSD 4 级 Robotaxi 自动驾驶汽车业务板块(最后一轮融资 $UBER 投入 3.75 亿美元),以对抗 Waymo。 - AI 训练板块由贝索斯资助,并被 $AMZN、Anthropic 等使用。 - 持有子公司 28% 的股份,该子公司被 $TSLA、$NET、Tiktok、$META 等大多数上市公司使用。 - 4 家子公司同比增长 100%,伴随核心运营业务增长,Tripleten/Toloka 每年增加净收入。 这是同一家公司吗。

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    A short seller firm @Hedgeye is now shorting Nebius $NBIS. The stock price is now $97.8. Their claim? Nebius is Coreweave 2.0. Coreweave [ $CRWV ]: - Small diversification in customers, mainly hyperscalers, ~quarter of their backlog is OpenAI. - $1.8B in cash left - $1.3B+/yearly in debt interest from toxic financing at 8-10% interest. Same thing as Nebius right? Nebius [ $NBIS ]: - Highest diversification in the Neocloud market of customers from $META, $MSFT, governments, $SHOP, Mistral, $NOW, and many others. - $4.8B+ in cash left - ~$76.6M/yearly from note structure 40%+ OTM at ~2% interest. - FSD level 4 Robotaxi self driving car segment that is of critical importance to $UBER (last round $375M with $UBER) to compete vs Waymo. - AI training segments funded by Bezos and used by $AMZN, Anthropic, and others - 28% in subsidiary that most of the public companies from $TSLA, $NET, Tiktok, $META and so on use - 4 subsidiaries growing 100% Y/Y alongside their core operational business, with Tripleten/Toloka adding to net income every year. Same company.

  12. 反驳做空 $NBIS 观点,对比其与 $CRWV 在财务及业务上的巨大差异。

    做空 $NBIS 是个好主意,因为你认为它和 $CRWV 一样,不错的论点! $CRWV -> 每年 13 亿+美元的债务利息,拥有来自 OpenAI 的大量积压订单,剩余现金 18 亿美元。 $NBIS -> 可转换票据结构,利息不会严重侵蚀盈利能力;客户基础多元化以实现高利用率(Shopify、Cursor、政府机构、Meta/MSFT 等超大规模云服务商);拥有 48 亿+美元现金用于建设;Robotaxi 自动驾驶汽车板块被 $UBER 使用并正在扩展以与 Waymo 竞争;AI 训练板块由 $AMZN、Anthropic 等资助并使用;持有 28% 的子公司股份,该子公司被大多数上市公司使用,所有 4 家子公司同比增长 100%——市值 240 亿美元。 当然和 Coreweave 是同一家公司。

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    Great idea to short $NBIS because you think it's the same $CRWV, nice thesis! $CRWV -> $1.3B+ yearly debt interest, large backlog from OpenAI, $1.8B in cash left. $NBIS -> Convertible notes structure where interest doesn't heavily cut into profitability, diversified customer base for high utilization (shopify, cursor, governments, hyperscalers like meta/msft), $4.8B+ in cash for buildout, Robotaxi self driving car segments used by $UBER and scaling up to compete vs Waymo, AI training segments funded by and used by $AMZN, Anthropic, and others, 28% in subsidiary that most of the public companies use, all 4 subsidiaries growing 100% Y/Y - $24B MC. Same company as Coreweave for sure.

  13. 对比NBIS与IREN跌幅,探讨基于个股表现与持仓回撤的优劣之争。

    @DannyQuark 你说得对,$NBIS > $IREN,因为 Nebius 仅下跌了 17.5%,而非 41.5%。 但你是否想过反方论点:$IREN > $NBIS,因为 $IREN 的持仓今日仅亏损 4%,而非 6%?

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    @DannyQuark You're right, $NBIS > $IREN because Nebius only dropped by -17.5% instead of -41.5%. But have you thought of the counter argument that $IREN > $NBIS because $IREN portfolios faced-4% loss today instead of -6%?

  14. 分析NBIS和IREN财报后大跌原因,认为跌幅过度且受情绪影响。

    财报前 $NBIS 股价在 $115-$135 区间。此后因以下利好下跌约 21%-40%:与 $UBER 合作推出 Robotaxi FSD,ARR 预估翻倍,GW 产能指引上调 150%,$META 意外合同,MSCI 纳入带来的资金流入。唯一的利空是 2500 万股稀释。作为投资者我极度反感这一点(更偏好 FCF -> 产能爬坡)。不幸的是,$ORCL 和 $CRWV 的重大债务警告、$CRWV 影响 $APLD 等供应商发行垃圾债及信贷收紧,以及 GPU 折旧论调同时打击了 Neocloud 市场。其中只有信贷收紧是实质性的,不足以解释 $NBIS 的大幅下跌(纯属情绪)。话说回来,他们确实需要改善营销。(例如没人将 Robotaxi 与 $NBIS 关联,主流新闻也不知晓此事)。至于 $IREN,他们出人意料地选择购买 GPU 而非 Colo 服务,鉴于 3GW 产能,投资者可能看到巨大的潜在稀释,因此也下跌了 40%。我相信 $IREN 在营销方面没问题,它拥有像 $ASTS 那样的狂热追随者(这对他们是好事)。

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    Pre-earnings $NBIS was sitting around $115-$135. We've dropped over ~21%-40% since then on: Robotaxi FSD launch with $UBER, doubled ARR estimates, increased GW capacity guidance by 150%, surprise $META contract, MSCI inclusion inflow. The only downside: 25m share dilution. Which I extremely dislike as an investor (FCF -> ramp up would be preferred) Unfortunately, TI hit reports on $ORCL, $CRWV major debt flag, $CRWV affecting suppliers from $APLD raising junk bonds + credit tightening, and GPU depreciation arguments all kind of hit the Neocloud market at the same time. Only credit tightening was something material and doesn't warrant that much of a drop for $NBIS (purely sentiment). That being said they need to improve their marketing for sure. (Eg. nobody associates robotaxis with $NBIS at all and even mainstream news don't know about it). As for $IREN, they did a surprising move to buy GPUs instead of colo offerings and given the 3GW capacity investors probably see a huge huge amount of potential dilution, hence the 40% drop too. I'm sure $IREN is fine on the marketing front, it has that cult-like following like $ASTS (which is a good thing going for them).

  15. NBIS与IREN股价齐跌,反驳IREN更优论。

    $NBIS 与 $IREN 之争简而言之: “$IREN 更好,因为——” 两只股票:分别下跌 6.16% 和 4.00%。 市场:🟩 🚀 https://t.co/vAdT3NbkcF

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    $NBIS vs. $IREN debates in a nutshell: “ $IREN is better because —“ Both stocks: -6.16% and -4.00%. Markets: 🟩 🚀 https://t.co/vAdT3NbkcF

  16. 分析NBIS、IREN、CIFR及TE的投资逻辑与风险,并点评用户高波动组合。

    从我的角度来看: $NBIS - 拥有最高的非对称上行潜力,因为除了核心的运营数据中心业务外,他们还有4家类似Robotaxi的子公司,同比增长超过100%。这只是一场等待市场定价部分价值(例如$UBER因Avride自动驾驶汽车大涨,但持有Avride的$NBIS却无反应)的游戏。 我非常看好Robotaxi和Avride。我不明白市场为何没看到这个机会(也许我们只是太早了,不过据我上次检查,机构持仓已从38%累积至流通盘的52%以上,所以有些人可能已经意识到了)。 $IREN - 潜在上行空间最大,但风险也是所有标的中最大的。仅为了达成与$MSFT的交易,他们就不得不稀释股权并支付58亿美元以上的硬件费用,且为了加速建设,每兆瓦成本高达200万美元。然而,这仅仅是为了变现一小部分产能,他们选择的是AI云路线,而非像$CIFR那样购买GPU做托管(Colo)。如果$IREN继续提供GPU服务,我会作为投资者极度担忧,因为执行存在不确定性,且变现“3GW管道”需要极其巨大的稀释。也许再等几个月会更好,因为短期投资者受损最重。 $CIFR - 可能是新云(Neocloud)板块中最安全的,因为他们有$AMZN和$GOOGL背书,资产负债表上有大量比特币以应对下一次减半事件,且虽然营收增长较慢,但通过超大规模云厂商合约获得了高毛利的托管(Colo)收入可见性。 $TE - 能源是个不错的博弈方向。 你的投资组合波动性极大哈哈(可能回撤50%),但如果你出身于WSB Reddit、加密货币和期权交易圈,那也没问题。

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    Okay so from my perspective $NBIS - Highest asymmetrical upside possible because they have 4 subsidaries like robotaxis growing 100%+ Y/Y alongside their core operational DC business. It's just a waiting game until market prices in parts (eg. $UBER rose a ton from self driving cars with Avride, but $NBIS had no movement but owns Avride). I really really like robotaxis and Avride. I don't know how markets aren't seeing this opportunity (maybe we're just early, institutions accumulated over 52% of the float last i checked though from 38%, so some are probably aware). $IREN - highest possible upside, but biggest risk of them all. Just for their $MSFT deal they had to dilute and pay for $5.8B+ worth of hardware just to do the deal and ended up spending up $2m/mw in costs just for expedited buildout. However, that was just to monetize a small amount of capacity and they're going the AI cloud route instead of colo buying GPUS, unlike $CIFR. I'd be extremely worried as an investor if they kept doing GPU offerings because of execution uncertainty and extreme, extreme amount of dilution to monetize that "3 GW pipeline". Maybe it would be better off waiting another few months because near term investors are harmed the most. $CIFR - probably safest one in the neocloud sector since they are backstopped by $AMZN and $GOOGL, large amounts of bitcoin on balance sheet for next halving event, and are doing slower revenue growth but higher margin colo offerings with revenue visibility from hyperscaler deals $TE - energy is a good play. Your portfolio is incredibly volatile lol (can swing -50%) but it's fine if you're born from the depths of wsb reddit, crypto, and options.

  17. 建议搭配稳健股以平衡NBIS的高波动风险。

    @MMerrino569447 100% $NBIS 可能是上行空间最大的投资组合,哈哈。话虽如此,拥有一些更稳健的复利增长股如 $AVGO 或 $TSM 来追踪更广泛的板块增长是很好的,这样你就不会像最近那样因波动(30-40%的下跌和上涨)而感到过于恐慌。

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    @MMerrino569447 100% $NBIS is probably the highest upside portfolio lol. That being said it's nice to have some steadier compounders like $AVGO or $TSM to track the broader sector growth so you don't get too scared on the volatility (30-40% drops and increases) like of recent.

  18. ASML跟踪晶圆厂周期,是长期复利资产,可替代直接受益股。

    我没有纳入 $ASML,因为它的走势跟踪的是晶圆厂周期,而非像 $TSM 或三星电子那样涵盖整个 AI 资本支出交易(涵盖代工+存储+其他)。 但作为唯一的光刻机(EUV)供应商,它是一笔优秀的长期复利资产,尽管其表现不如追逐下一代 TPU/Blackwell 周期/LLM-agent 建设最直接受益者那样强劲。 我相信你可以用 ASML 替换上述任何一只股票。

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    I didn't include $ASML since they track fab cycles rather than the whole AI capex trade which $TSM or Samsung Electronics does (foundry + memory + misc) But it's a good long term compounder as the sole EUV supplier vs. chasing the most direct beneficaries of the next TPU/Blackwell Cycle/LLM-agent buildout. I'm sure you can swap out any one of the above with ASML

  19. 解析资本支出会计处理及子公司利润对NBIS和IREN估值的影响。

    是的,资本支出(Capex)就是这样进行会计处理的,它会产生固定的折旧,但 Nebius 的营收增长幅度超过了折旧带来的拖累。 此外,子公司+三位数的增长直接计入净利润报表,没有运营支出(Opex)的拖累,而人们通常没有在模型中考虑这一点。 基于你关于杠杆的观点,$IREN 与微软(MSFT)的交易通过预付款实现了更高的杠杆化内部收益率(IRR),而 $NBIS 的前置投入也意味着大部分现金消耗已结束,从而在 Q4 至 2027 年期间产生经营杠杆。

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    yeah that's how capex gets accounted for, it creates fixed depreciation but nebius rev scales past depreciation drag. Also subsidiaries + triple digit grwoth drop in pure net income into the statement without opex drag, which people don't model for. going off your own points about leverage works with $IREN doing its msft deal with prepayment for higher levered irr, there's also operating leverage with nbis frontloading was majority of cash burn ending -> operating leverage q4 into 2027.

  20. 澄清$NBIS因资本支出前置致2026年净利为负,但Q4盈利且长期利润率可观。

    我接受你的提议,看看他们在第四季度财报中会披露什么!期待视频。 我想你可能忘了,SOP Toloka/Tripleten(同比增长100%+)会被计入净利润行。大多数 $NBIS 的资本支出(Capex)都前置到了接下来的4个季度(约50亿美元资本支出),导致2026财年净利润为负,但2026年第四季度盈利,这正是这张快照所显示的。 我们可能会看到管理层预测在2-3年内逐步实现20-30%的息税前利润(EBIT)利润率,而不是在建设阶段(约19.4%的息税折旧摊销前利润(EBITDA))。

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    I’ll take you up on that offer and see what they report in q4 earnings then! Looking forward to the video. think you might be forgetting sop Toloka/Tripleten (100%+ y/y) gets added to net income line. Most $NBIS capex spend is front loaded into next 4 quarters (~$5B capex) leading to negative net income FY 2026, but profitable q4 2026, which was this snapshot. We’ll likely see management projected 20-30% EBIT margins in 2-3 years over time rather than during the buildout phase (~19.4%ebitda).

  21. SMCI因订单延迟被错杀,估值极低,AI需求强劲,建议中期做多。

    @mhayavkay 关于 $SMCI 将 $SMCI 评级上调至“极强买入”,目标价约 $33(市值约 190 亿美元)。 • 2026 财年营收预期上调至 360 亿美元以上(较 220 亿美元同比增长 60%+)。 • AI 数据中心(如 $NBIS、$IREN、$DGXX)的建设使 GPU 服务器需求保持最大化。 这并非 $CRDO 那种营收同比激增 272% 的故事,而是被错估的价值股。 原因如下: SMCI 财报后股价下跌源于两点:对利润率压缩的担忧和营收不及预期。 1. 2026 年 Q1 的“不及预期”实为订单延迟: • 营收为 50 亿美元,低于此前 60-70 亿美元的指引。 • 但这只是 15 亿美元推迟至 Q2,因客户在等待 Nvidia 的 Blackwell Ultra 配置。且公司甚至将全年指引从 330 亿美元上调至 360 亿美元。 2. 利润率压缩担忧: • 2025 财年净利率:约 5.9%(220 亿美元营收对应 13 亿美元净利润)。 • 当前的利润率压缩是暂时的。随着 DLC 制造(数字逻辑芯片制造)沿学习曲线下行,单位成本下降,利润率将回升。管理层目标下半年毛利率约 11%,净利率回升至约 5.5%。 若毛利率均值回归至约 11%,净利率回归至约 5-6%,基于 360-380 亿美元营收,每股收益将超 20 亿美元。 营收:380 亿美元 净利率:5.5%(复苏情景) 隐含净利润:20.9 亿美元 稀释股数:6.8 亿股 股价:约 33.85 美元 市盈率计算:33.85 / 3.07 = 11.0 倍 远期市盈率:约 10-13 倍,对于一家远期增长超 60% 的股票而言,极其便宜。 $SMCI 不依赖 GPU 使用寿命的会计游戏,无论如何它都出售机架。 此外,$NVDA、$NBIS、$CRDO 及其他 AI 数据中心股票在财报后确认 AI 热潮并未放缓。 $SMCI 是 AI/数据中心热潮的核心,同比增长 60%+,但市场却将其视为类似 $MSTR 的困境资产。 因此我建立多头头寸,因为 $SMCI 看起来是硬件板块中风险调整后最具吸引力的 6 个月(中期)交易,潜在上涨空间 50-100%。

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    @mhayavkay For $SMCI https://t.co/i9EduOkMGY

  22. 博主认为七大科技股当前估值具备较高概率优势。

    @Scepticus16 就我而言,从当前估值来看,$meta、$amzn、$googl、$nvda、$appl、$msft、$tsla 的概率较大。

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    @Scepticus16 Prob $meta, $amzn, $googl, $nvda, $appl, $msft, $tsla for me in terms of current valuations

  23. NBIS处于早期建设阶段,长期利润率提升将带来巨大回报。

    目前 $NBIS 正在投入大量资本支出(capex)为其超大规模客户(hyperscalers)建设人工智能数据中心(ai dcs),并通过子公司(如 Avride)与 Waymo 竞争。 关于远期盈利,管理层引用的息税折旧摊销前利润(EBIT)率为20-30%(即扣除折旧后、税前转化为营业利润的收入占比)。如果我记忆无误,当前的息税折旧摊销前利润(EBITDA)率约为19%。 我们将看到净利润在一年左右的时间里大幅增长,这仅仅是早期阶段(建设/扩张年)。否则,如果它今天就有100亿美元年经常性收入(ARR)且保持这些利润率,我们的市值将达到1000亿美元。 我的论点(thesis)是,这只是一场等待游戏,最高的回报来自于从一开始就搭上这波上涨浪潮。

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    Currently $NBIS is using a lot of capex to do buildout for its hyperscalers on ai dcs and subsidiaries (eg. Avride) to compete with Waymo. For forward earnings, management quoted 20-30% EBIT which the percentage of revenue that becomes operating profit after depreciation (but before tax). Current ebitda was 19% or so if I recall correctly. We’ll see net income ramp up immensely in a year or so, this is just early stage (building/scaling year). Otherwise if it were doing $10B ARR today with those margins, we’d be trading at a $100b marketcap. My thesis is that it’s just a waiting game and the highest return comes from riding the wave up from the beginning.

  24. NBIS属首创,市场将重估其子公司高增长及核心业务价值。

    是的,$NBIS 确实是首创。我想不出其他参照物。 市场迟早会将其旗下子公司三位数的增长与其核心运营业务一起计入估值。 $UBER 就是昨天的完美例子:其自动驾驶出租车部门达成了史上最大交易之一,但股价几乎毫无波动,因为算法/市场尚未将网约车业务与 Nebius 联系起来。

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    Yeah $NBIS is actually the first of its kind. I can’t think of any other reference. It’s only a matter of time when markets start to price in all its subsidiaries growing triple digits alongside its core operational business too. $UBER was the perfect example yesterday, one of the biggest deals for its robotaxi division of all time but barely any movement because algorithms/markets don’t associate avride with Nebius yet.

  25. 加急费用损害 $IREN 利润,且存在违约风险,并非全为利好。

    仅就加急费用这一项而言,考虑到其对 $IREN 利润率的影响百分比,这显然是一个负面因素。如果 $IREN 不支付这笔费用,进而面临 $MSFT 的延迟及合同终止,情况会更糟。这只是客观、不加粉饰的解读方式。若声称所有人都需支付如此高比例的加急费用,那便是谬误。$IREN 有时确实存在利空,并非所有消息都极度看涨。

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    On the expedited element alone, it’s a pretty obvious negative given how much % margins it is for $IREN. And it’s even worse if they don’t pay it and face $MSFT delays + contract termination. That’s just the objective/non-sugarcoated way to frame it. It’s false if you say everyone needs to pay that much % in expedited. Sometimes there’s negatives about $IREN, not everything is overwhelmingly bullish.

  26. 解析$IREN因$MSFT合同升级设施成本,批评盲目乐观者。

    如果我错了请纠正我,但就我所见,$IREN 的情况是,在与 $MSFT 签约后,其产品计算标准从普通设施变更为超大规模数据中心级设施。 ~300万美元用于超集群的液冷/母线槽/高密度机架。 ~200万美元来自其他规格(如备用发电机翻倍、冷却回路等)。 +200万美元为加急费用(正如前文所述,任何试图证明这是好事的人,都是在强行自我安慰)。 否则,前两项增加似乎是标准的。其他回复中9/10的内容读起来简直伤脑筋。

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    Correct me if I’m wrong but from what I’ve seen for $IREN it was a change in product calculations from a standard facility to a hyperscaler-grade one after they signed the $MSFT deal. ~3m for liquid cooling/busways/high density racks for supercluster. ~2m from misc specs such as equipment doubling fbackup generator, cooling loops, etc.) +2m expedited as mentioned ( anyone who tries to justify why this is a good thing, is hard coping ) Otherwise the first two additions seem standard. 9/10th of the other replies just cause IQ damage to read.

  27. 扎克伯格削减元宇宙支出令META财报后上涨,证明基本面完好时应忍受波动。

    而且……在扎克伯格削减元宇宙支出后,财报后所有买入的 $META 都飘红了。这就是为什么如果基本面完好,你要忍受短期波动性。有时只需要改变叙事逻辑。 https://t.co/M0ngPtT3o2

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    And… all the $META buys post-earnings are green after Zuck cuts the Metaverse spending. This is why you hold through short-volatility if fundamentals are intact. Sometimes all it takes is a change in narrative. https://t.co/M0ngPtT3o2

  28. 上调TTD至买入评级,认为其估值合理且具价值,目标价50美元。

    将 $TTD 评级上调至买入,目标价 $38.6(年初至今跌幅 -67.5%)。 The Trade Desk 定价合理——目前略微被低估。 毛利率 78.1%,2025 财年营收约 29 亿美元,同比增长 18%,自由现金流(FCF) 利润率 25%。 现金 18 亿美元,无债务,客户留存率 95%,并有 10 亿美元回购以抵消大额基于股票的薪酬。市值 186.7 亿美元。 这肯定不像之前提到的那样是超高速增长股,但它具有良好的价值。基本面是在放缓,而非消亡。 鉴于 7.35 亿美元自由现金流、12% 的同比增长率以及折现率,我将公允价值定在 48-55 美元区间。 我认为随着 12 月中旬年底税务收割(tax harvesting)停止,股价将在约 4 个月内恢复至 50 美元,当前水平下有约 31.6% 的上行空间。

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    Upgrading $TTD to a buy at $38.6 (-67.5% YTD) The Trade Desk is reasonably priced-slightly undervalued here. 78.1% gross margins, ~2.9B FY revenue 2025, 18% y/y growth, 25% FCF margins. $1.8B cash, no debt,, 95% customer retention, and $1B in buybacks to offset large stock based compensation. At a $18.67B marketcap. Definitely not a hyper growth stock like the earlier mention, but it has good value. Fundamentals are slowing, not dying. I put fair value in $48-$55 range given dcf of $735m fcf, 12% y/y growth, and a discount rate. I see it recovering to $50, ~31.6% upside at these levels within ~4 months, when EOY tax harvesting stops mid December.

  29. 作者惊叹某公司收入及子公司增速创纪录,远超Uber等巨头。

    我是高增长公司的早期投资者。 $RKLB 用于太空领域。 $HOOD 用于金融科技。 $CRDO 用于连接技术。 但我从未 从未,真的从未 见过一家公司的前瞻性收入同比增长超过 700%。 同时拥有 4 家高增长子公司,每家都在同步实现超过 100% 的同比增长。 https://t.co/iqU2jWf41O

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    I'm an early investor in hyper-growth companies. $RKLB for space. $HOOD for fintech. $CRDO for connectivity. But I've never ever, Ever seen a company grow forward revenue: 700%+ Y/Y. and while owning 4 hyper growth subsidiaries concurrently scaling >100% Y/Y each. https://t.co/iqU2jWf41O

  30. 分析Uber不会全面牵手Waymo,建议考虑持股且无独立竞争者的NBIS。

    @Jason 我100%确定 Uber 不会在所有城市都与 Waymo 合作。如果你经营 Uber,为什么要把所有用户导流到 Waymo 的 app 里?与其跟另一个 FSD-4(4级完全自动驾驶)玩家 $NBIS 合作,还不如选择他们部分持股且没有独立竞争者的那家公司。

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    @Jason I'm 100% sure $UBER would not partner with Waymo in all cities. If you were Uber, why would you funnel all your users into the Waymo app one day? Instead of partnering with another FSD-4 player $NBIS avride that they partially own + doesn't have a standalone competitor? https://t.co/BE9J3sl72O

  31. 分析NBIS与CRWV在自动驾驶及云基础设施领域的稀缺性与护城河。

    我的意思是,并非所有人都能开发出 FSD 级别的 L4 自动驾驶汽车。美国可能只有 5 家主要玩家:亚马逊、Waymo、特斯拉、$NBIS(Nebius)的 Avride 和 Motional。 除非你的问题是指母公司。 那么在公开上市的 Neoclouds 中,只有 $NBIS 和 $CRWV。其中只有一家拥有巨大的客户多元化(Shopify、Cursor、政府、微软/元等),这有助于提高利用率(对利润率至关重要)。 此外,它混合了全栈 + 软件全栈编排层。例如,GPU 利用率 -> 更快的训练时间 + 降低运营支出,从而通过软硬件结合建立经济护城河。这并不容易创建,$CRWV 花费了数十亿美元和数年时间,这就是为什么矿工/colo 玩家无法轻易转向全栈服务。 如果只有个位数的供应商能做到这一点,那技术可能非常复杂。

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    I mean not everyone can develop FSD-level 4 self driving cars. There's probably only 5 main players in the US. Amazon, Waymo, Tesla, $NBIS Avride, and Motional. Unless your question was about the parent company. Then out of public company Neoclouds, there's only $NBIS and $CRWV. Then there's only one with immense amount of customer diversification ( Shopify, Cursor, governments, msft/meta, and so on) which helps with utilization (huge for margins). Also it's mixes full stack + software full stack orchestration layers. eg. GPU utilization-> faster time to train + lowers opex to create an economic moat from software + hardware mix. It's not easy to create this, $CRWV spent billions of dollars and years which is why miners/colo players can't exactly pivot to full-stack offerings. If there's single digit providers that can do things, it's probably technologically very complex.

  32. 质疑用价值投资指标评估高增长AI股NBIS的合理性。

    @TravisNott 嗯,$NBIS 的年经常性收入(ARR)从9亿美元-11亿美元增长到约80亿美元以上,增幅超过700%,EBIT利润率在20-30%之间。 此外还有4家像这样的子公司,同比增长超过100%,并烧钱进行全自动驾驶(FSD)开发的资本支出(capex)。 除非你是价值投资而非关注增长,否则这大概是错误的评估指标。

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    @TravisNott Hmm, $NBIS 700%+ growth from $900m-1.1B ARR to ~$8B+ ARR on 20-30% EBIT margins. Then there's 4 subsidiaries like this one, growing 100%+ Y/Y, and burned capex for FSD development. probably wrong metric to use unless you're value investing vs. looking at growth.

  33. 看好NBIS的实时演示,期待其业务扩展至其他州。

    @Avrideai 🔥 很高兴看到 $NBIS Avride 的实时视频演示,非常酷,迫不及待想看到它扩展到其他州。

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    @Avrideai 🔥 Love seeing a live video of $NBIS Avride in action, super cool can't wait for expansion in other states.

  34. 对比GOOGL与UBER供应链标的股价表现差异

    @babyfolio $GOOGL 使用 Planet Labs。$PL -> +80% $UBER 使用 $NBIS 的 Avride。$NBIS -> -3%,$UBER 上涨 4% ????????????$@$@$?????

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    @babyfolio $GOOGL uses planet labs. $PL -> +80% $UBER uses $NBIS Avride. $NBIS -> -3%, $UBER up 4% ????????????$@$@$?????

  35. 质疑NBIS因持有自动驾驶公司Avride却被市场低估。

    @babyfolio 算法之神和资本市场难道不知道 $NBIS 拥有 Avride 吗? $UBER 因为自动驾驶汽车市值增加了 65 亿美元以上。而拥有自动驾驶汽车公司的 $NBIS 股价却下跌,市值仅为 230 亿美元? 我通常更偏向分析,但这完全说不通。

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    @babyfolio Do the algorithm gods and markets not know $NBIS owns Avride??? How does $UBER gain $6.5B+ in market cap size off self-driving cars. And $NBIS that owns the self-driving car company goes down and it's only worth $23B?? im normally more analytical but this just made no sense.

  36. 反驳特斯拉FSD营销,指出其仍为L2级,对比Waymo的L4优势。

    抱歉,那是自我安慰。$NBIS Avride 和 $GOOGL Waymo 现在已有可用的 L4 级自动驾驶系统。特斯拉拥有更具可扩展性的架构,但仍处于 L2 级。 关于 $TSLA: ~30 辆有人监督车辆 vs Waymo 的 2,500 辆无人监督车辆 - 仍需人类安全监控员 - 即使有监控员,事故率也更高 - 每 6.25 万英里发生一次碰撞。 当法律要求人类驾驶员必须在场时,FSD 的说法只是营销噱头。 如果你说 $TSLA 更具可扩展性、单车成本更低(无激光雷达 = 每辆便宜数千美元),且无需地理围栏/预映射即可随处运行,我会同意你。

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    Sorry that's copium. $NBIS Avride + $GOOGL Waymo have working Level 4 systems now. Tesla has a more scalable architecture that's still at Level 2. With $TSLA you have: ~30 supervised vehicles vs Waymo's 2,500 unsupervised vehicles - Human safety monitors still required - Higher incident rate even with monitors present - Crash every 62.5k miles. The FSD claims are just marketing when legally human drivers are required to be present at the wheel. I would agree with you if you said $TSLA was more scaleable with cheaper per vehicle (no LiDAR = thousands less per unit), and works everywhere (no geofencing/pre-mapping required).

  37. 对比NBIS成熟L4架构与特斯拉纯视觉扩展策略优劣

    虽然有点开玩笑,但目前 $NBIS Avride 拥有比 $TSLA 更成熟的 L4 级系统架构(类似于 Waymo 采用激光雷达、摄像头、雷达的方案),且正在主要区域进行类似 Waymo 的地理围栏商业化部署。 $TSLA 的 L2 级系统需要人工监督(FSD 被高估了)。 然而,特斯拉的策略是通过 AI 软件改进,将纯视觉消费者车辆系统扩展至 L4+ 能力。$TSLA 还掌控全栈技术,因此能以极低成本大规模扩展且不受地理围栏限制。

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    Obviously joking a bit but as of now $NBIS Avride has a more mature lvl-4 system architecture (similar to Waymo's approach with LiDAR, cameras, radar) than $TSLA, and is just launching commercially but geofenced in major areas like Waymo. $TSLA level-2 system is supervised and requires human drivers (FSD is overstated). However, Tesla's approach bets on scaling a vision-only consumer vehicle system to Level 4+ capability through AI software improvements. $TSLA also owns the stack so they can build out this to scale extremely cheaply + non geofenced.

  38. 对比Uber与特斯拉Robotaxi发布后的股价反差,感叹市场荒谬。

    看到市场反应,我忍不住笑了:尽管 $UBER 在德州推出了基于 FSD 的 L4 级 Robotaxi,但 $NBIS 的股价却下跌了 3%。要知道,该公司的市值仅为 230 亿美元,本来就已经非常小了。相比之下,当 $TSLA 在德州进行软启动时,其股价却飙升了超过 3000 亿美元。市场有时真是有趣。

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    テキサス州で $UBER と提携したFSDレベル4のロボタクシーのローンチがあったのに $NBIS の株価が3%下落したという市場の反応を見て、思わず笑ってしまいました。同社の時価総額はわずか230億ドルと、もともと非常に小さいのに。 一方 $TSLA がテキサスでソフトローンチを行った際も、株価は3,000億ドル以上も価値が上昇したんです。 市場というのは、時々面白い動きをしますね。

  39. 对比TSLA与NBIS在自动驾驶级别与市值反应上的巨大反差。

    这让人难以理解... $TSLA:L2级自动驾驶的Robotaxi——市场基于其1万亿美元以上的估值,额外增加了约3000亿美元市值。 $NBIS:L4级自动驾驶的Robotaxi——市值230亿美元,却下跌了3.55%。 https://t.co/kMGzihza3V

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    Make this make sense... $TSLA: FSD level 2 robotaxis -> market adds ~$300B off a $1T+ valuation. $NBIS: FSD level 4 robotaxis -> down 3.55% off a $23B marketcap. https://t.co/kMGzihza3V

  40. Uber联手Nvidia对抗Tesla和Waymo,共享出行市场或现多赢格局。

    我会将其框架化为 $UBER + $NBIS Avride 对阵 $TSLA 对阵 $GOOGL Waymo。特斯拉有独立应用。Waymo 也有独立应用。两者都在与 Uber(拥有最大网络)竞争。如果我是 Uber,我会通过 Avride 来增长,以免用户仅仅被引导至 Waymo 的应用。共享出行领域可能有多位赢家(例如 $LYFT + $UBER),因为这是一个巨大的市场。

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    I'd frame it more of $UBER + $NBIS Avride vs. $TSLA vs. $GOOGL Waymo. Tesla has its standalone app. Waymo has a standalone app. Both are competing vs Uber (which has the largest network) If I were Uber, I'd grow with Avride on this so they don't just funnel users to Waymo's app. Probably multiple winners (eg. $LYFT + $UBER) for ridesharing since it's a huge market.

  41. 对比特斯拉与NBIS在自动驾驶出租车领域的估值差异。

    @longinvest32 $TSLA 的 FSD(完全自动驾驶)L2 级 Robotaxi(自动驾驶出租车)——市场基于 1 万亿美元以上的估值,增加了约 3000 亿美元的市值。 $NBIS 的 FSD L4 级 Robotaxi——市值 230 亿美元,盘前下跌 1.3%。

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    @longinvest32 $TSLA FSD level 2 robotaxis -> market adds ~$300B off a $1T+ valuation. $NBIS FSD level 4 robotaxis -> down 1.3% premarket off a $23B marketcap.

  42. Uber整合NBIS自动驾驶出租车,有望加速规模化并降低成本。

    这对 $NBIS Avride 来说太棒了,看看 $UBER 是怎么做的。据我了解,其运作方式是:当用户通过 UberX 等常规服务叫车时,系统会匹配 $NBIS Avride 的 Robotaxi(自动驾驶出租车)供 $UBER 用户选择。这对规模化至关重要,因为用户无需像选择 UberX Black 那样额外付费去专门寻找自动驾驶服务。初期车内仍有人类驾驶员监控,但随后会像 Waymo 一样逐步取消。如果进展顺利,$UBER 可以扩大其 Robotaxi 网络并节省人类司机成本(这也利好 $NBIS)。

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    So this is amazing for $NBIS Avride how $UBER is doing it. How it works from what I understand is when someone requests a ride with ubebx and the usual, they get matched a $NBIS Avride robotaxi pickup from $UBER and have the option. (this is huge for scale since it's not going out of the way to select a separate robotaxi section for more cost like uberx black). There's a human behind the wheel at the start, just to monitor if things go well. But they'll be phased out like Waymo. IF this works out well, $UBER can ramp up their robotaxi network and save the costs of human drivers (and this benefits $NBIS too).

  43. Nebius因算法忽视其高增长子公司而被严重低估。

    不,这对 $NBIS 来说甚至算不上新闻。 就在刚才,Avride 与 $UBER 的合作发布可能是该投资组合公司十年来最大的头条,但在 $GOOGL / $HOOD 等新闻聚合器(算法也依赖这些)上,这甚至与 Nebius 不相关。 这就是为什么我一直认为 Nebius 在结构上被错误定价和误解,因为有像 Avride 这样 4 家同比增长 100%+ 的子公司,但市场/算法并没有将这些动态部分纳入定价。

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    Nope, it’s not even news for $NBIS. Just now, Avride launch with $UBER is probably the biggest headline of the decade for the portfolio company but its not even correlated to Nebius on places like $GOOGL / $HOOD news aggregators (which algorithms rely on too) This is why I’ve been arguing Nebius is structurally misvalued and misunderstood because there’s 4 subsidiaries like Avride growing 100%+ Y/Y but markets/algorithms aren’t pricing in the moving parts

  44. Nebius子公司Avride联手Uber在德州推出L4级Robotaxi,开启商业化。

    最新消息:Nebius [ $NBIS ] 的 FSD 4 级 Robotaxi(自动驾驶出租车)子公司 Avride 已与 $UBER 合作在德克萨斯州正式推出。 自 2017 年经过近十年的开发,Avride 终于将其自动驾驶汽车技术投入全面商业运营。 https://t.co/DSPRvmNw3f

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    Just in: Nebius [ $NBIS ] FSD level 4 Robotaxi subsidiary Avride has now launched in Texas in partnership with $UBER. After nearly a decade of development since 2017, Avride is finally taking its self-driving car tech into full commercial operation. https://t.co/DSPRvmNw3f

  45. IREN股价因吉姆·克拉默的言论获救。

    @cronked 看起来 $IREN 被吉姆·克拉默(Jim Cramer)救了。

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    @cronked Looks like $IREN got saved by Jim Cramer

  46. 对比NBIS与IREN融资稀释影响,指出DC建设需购GPU导致稀释不可避免。

    关于 $NBIS,时机确实是个巨大因素,他们在宣布 $70-$90亿 ARR(年度经常性收入)后进行了操作。此外,MSCI 的资金流入也抵消了大部分稀释,下个月可能还会纳入纳斯达克100指数。 对于 $IREN,我目前的观点是:如果他们想通过拥有 GPU 的 AI 云(AI Cloud)变现其巨大的算力容量,就需要进行大量稀释。这不仅仅是“拥有 3GW 容量 x 一定收入”那么简单,当他们不做托管(Colocation)业务时,还需要购买 GPU。 现有股东/市场可能不喜欢这一点。特别是仅针对 $MSFT 的交易,硬件成本就高达约 $58亿(如果我记得没错的话)。虽然他们获得了预付款,但仍需筹集更多资金。 长期来看这是净正面的,但任何当前持有者都会感到痛苦。 即使是 $NBIS 的融资,我也非常不喜欢稀释,希望他们通过运营利润来融资剩余部分,但这是数据中心(DC)建设的现实。Nebius 起初就有更大的现金储备(坐拥 $48亿+),相比 $IREN 他们受到的冲击稍小一些,但让我们看看会发生什么。

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    With $NBIS yeah timing was a huge factor that they did it after announcing $7-$9B ARR. They also had MSCI inflows to offset a lot of the dilution too and maybe nasdaq100 next month. For $IREN my opinion so far is that if they wanted to monetize their immense of capacity in their AI cloud with GPUs, there needs to be a ton of dilution. It's not just oh we have 3GW capacity x amount of revenue, they need to buy the GPUs too when they're not doing colo. Existing shareholders/markets probably don't like that. Especially with spending ~$5.8B in hardware costs (if i remember correctly) for the $MSFT deal alone. They got pre-payment but they still needed to raise more. Long term it's net positive but anyone holding now would feel a lot of pain. Even for $NBIS raise I really disliked dilution and wanted them to finance the rest through operational profit, but that's the reality of the DC buildout. Nebius already had a bigger cash pile to begin with (was sitting on $4.8B+) compared to $IREN, so they're a tad more isolated but we'll see what happens.

  47. 认为SMCI 12/12到期31美元看跌期权走势稳健

    @dubiousnoob $31 $SMCI 12/12 看跌期权(put) 看起来相当稳健

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    @dubiousnoob $31 $SMCI Put 12/12 seems pretty solid

  48. 谷歌太空数据中心项目利好 Planet Labs 及发射商 Rocket Lab。

    谷歌($GOOGL) CEO 近日发布:Project Suncatcher 项目,计划于 2027 年在太空建立数据中心。下一代张量处理单元(TPU)将运行在太阳能卫星星座上,以扩展机器学习(ML)流程。最大的受益者是谁?Planet Labs ($PL) 以及衍生的 $RKLB 和 SpaceX。Planet Labs 是一家鲜为人知的小市值($35亿)太空公司,凭借此交易拥有巨大上行空间。Planet Labs 将为谷歌部署两颗原型卫星,目标是在 2027 年初发射。$PL 使用的发射服务商是 $RKLB(分别于 2018 年 1 月和 2020 年 10 月)和 SpaceX。其中一家(Rocket Lab)让人想起我最高确信度的多头持仓。对于 $PL 而言,收入可能在 1000 万至 4000 万美元的小范围内。但如果原型机顺利,完整的星座将带来 2.5 亿至 10 亿美元以上(且规模效应下更多)的收入。你搭上 $GOOGL 供应商列车了吗?

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    Google ( $GOOGL ) CEO recently unveiled: Project Suncatcher, a project to create datacenters in space in 2027. Next generation TPUs will run on solar-powered satellite constellations to scale ML flows. The biggest beneficiary? Planet Labs ( $PL ) and by derivative $RKLB and SpaceX. Planet Labs, a lesser known, small cap $3.5B space company, has huge upside with this deal. Planet labs will deploy two prototype satellites for Google, targeting a launch by early 2027. The launch providers that $PL uses are $RKLB (January 2018 and October 2020) and SpaceX. One of which (Rocketlab) reminds one of my highest conviction longs. For $PL revenue is likely in the small $10-$40M range. But a full constellation would bring in $250 million to $1 billion+ (and more at scale) if the prototype goes well. Are you riding the $GOOGL supplier train?

  49. SMCI因远期增长定价偏差适合交易,非长期投资首选。

    @MajorOcelot45 对我来说,$SMCI 是一只用于交易的股票,因为其远期增长存在定价偏差,市场上有大量更好的长期投资标的。

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    @MajorOcelot45 For me $SMCI is a stock to trade due to mispricing of forward growth, there’s tons of better long term investments.

  50. 承认对方对IREN的研究,指出与NBIS估值标准化存在分歧。

    @Agrippa_Inv @RJCcapital @MarkosAAIG @moninvestor @pepemoonboy @DeepValueBagger @amitisinvesting @Sandeman52 不,说真的,我相信你们为 $IREN 制作了很好的内容,并且更了解那家特定公司。我认为我们在 $NBIS 的指标标准化(normalizing figures)问题上存在分歧。

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    @Agrippa_Inv @RJCcapital @MarkosAAIG @moninvestor @pepemoonboy @DeepValueBagger @amitisinvesting @Sandeman52 nope, in all seriousness, I'm sure you produce good content for $IREN and know more for that specific company. i think we just come to a disagreement when it comes to to normalizing figures vs. $NBIS lol