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Lumilens高估值确认光互连上游POET/SIVE价值,博主加仓POET。
今天早些时候,光互连公司 Lumilens 以 55 亿美元估值“结束隐身模式”,此前已融资 7 亿美元。 正如我之前分享的 $POET / $SIVE LinkedIn OSINT 映射回顾,Lumilens 正在为一家前三超大规模云服务商客户供货。 因此,一个月后我们确认了这一点,并得知 Lumilens 拥有“数十亿美元的客户协议”。 仅供参考,$POET 与 Lumilens 有现有合同(5000 万美元采购订单,最高 5 亿美元)+ 与 $SIVE 的合同(取决于产品线)。 在阅读此新闻后,我再次在 POET 上建立了少量头寸,因为它终于让他们看到了资金极其充裕的超大规模云服务商供应商(加上 Poet 非常庞大的资产负债表)。 但简而言之: > Lumilens 估值与 Lightmatter/Ayar 相当(甚至更高),拥有超大规模云服务商客户,规模比市场预期的要大。 > 对上游 $POET(去风险化)/ $SIVE 的利好传导。 > 对光互连估值整体有利,看到一家公司在 2 年内达到 55 亿美元。
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Earlier today, optical interconnect company Lumilens "emerges from stealth" at a $5.5B valuation, after raising $700m. Just as a recap from $POET / $SIVE Linkedin OSINT mapping I shared earlier, Lumilens was supplying a top 3 hyperscaler customer. So we got confirmation of that a month later, along with the material figure that Lumilens has a "multi-billion-dollar customer agreement". And just for reference, $POET has existing contracts with Lumilens ($50m purchase order, up to $500m) + contracts with $SIVE (depending on product lines). I actually took tiny positions in POET again after reading this news, since it finally gives them visibility into extremely well funded hyperscaler suppliers (on top of Poet's really large balance sheet). But TLDR: > Lumilens around similar (or even higher) valuations as Lightmatter/Ayar, bigger than markets thought with hyperscaler customers. > nice read through upstream on $POET (derisking) / $SIVE. > Great for optical valuations in general, seeing a company go to $5.5B in 2 years.
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博主兴奋于CPO激光器格局及CW产能瓶颈研究获验证。
@Financewisdom01 我个人真的非常兴奋,因为这些细枝末节的线索验证了我几个月前做的很多研究。关于共封装光学(CPO)激光器玩家格局以及连续波(CW)激光器产能瓶颈。
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@Financewisdom01 I’m just really excited personally since these little breadcrumbs validated a lot of the research I did months ago. With CPO laser player dynamics and CW laser capacity bottlenecks.
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@pjtesus 这是因为 $AAOI 的 800G/1.6T 光模块(optical transceivers)已经存在巨大的 20-40% 供需失衡…… 他们无法生产足够的产品来满足需求。这是一件好事。 但无法满足所有需求,意味着较小的共封装光学(CPO) 激光器玩家存在市场机会。
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@pjtesus It's because $AAOI already has a massive 20-40% demand imbalance for their 800G/1.6T optical transceivers... They can't make enough to satisfy demand. That's a positive thing. But not being able to fulfill all demand, means there's market opportunities for smaller CPO laser players.
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AAOI缺席CPO部署揭示产能瓶颈,暗示其他CPO玩家价值被低估。
@00m00oo 我对 $AAOI 极度看好,它是我的核心持仓之一? 但当 AOI 表示因产能不足而不参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署时,背后有无数问题需要拆解。 1. 独立连续波分布反馈激光器(CW DFB)产能,比市场预期的更少。 2. 合格的 CPO 激光器玩家,比市场预期的更少。 3. 我记得 Rosenblatt 曾认为 $AAOI 会是 $AMD 的第一个 CPO 客户,但情况可能已变... 而且由于 $LITE 和 $COHR 站在 $NVDA 阵营且未来两年订单已售罄... 其他一些 CPO 玩家可能比人们认为的更有价值。
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@00m00oo I'm extremely bullish on $AAOI, it's one of my top holdings? But there's an unholy amount of things to unpack when AOI said they're not participating in first-gen CPO deployments because there's not enough capacity. 1. Independent CW DFB capacity, even less than markets thought. 2. Qualified CPO laser players, even less than markets thought. 3. I remember Rosenblatt thought $AAOI would be $AMD's first CPO customer, but might not be the case anymore... And since $LITE and $COHR are in camp $NVDA and sold out for next 2 years... Some other CPO players might be more valuable than others think.
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AAOI财报揭示CPO激光器产能瓶颈,利好少数西方厂商,中国技术落后数年。
哇,$AAOI 的财报中对于 $SIVE 及其他激光器玩家来说,利好一个接一个。 1. $AAOI 并未实质性参与第一代共封装光学(CPO)部署。 “我们根本无法生产足够的[CPO激光器]来参与他们当前的一代[CPO]部署,因为产能根本不够。我们必须优先保障自有光模块的激光器供应。” 因此,第一代CPO激光器的部署范围可能会进一步缩小,仅限于$SIVE、$LITE、$AVGO和$COHR等西方厂商。 如果$AAOI不得不拒绝更多客户,独立的CPO连续波(CW)激光器产能将变得更有价值。 还要记得Trendforce曾提到$AMD签署了CW长期协议(LTA)?$COHR/$LITE已与$NVDA签署了产能协议…… 我原以为是$AAOI,但他们可能出局了。$MTSI在早期CPO参与中也不显眼(除了NPO外财报未提及,且从Ayar网站移除)。 所以我在想$AMD在Helios项目中会与谁合作(例如Sivers+Ayar现在更可能是候选者)? 顺便说一句,这对$AAOI并非看空,因为他们光模块业务需求旺盛。只是对少数有产能的合格CPO激光器厂商更加看多。 2. 磷化铟(InP)激光器/光模块的需求失衡与瓶颈。 AOI CEO的话某种程度上证实了这一点:“客户需求比扩建后的产能高出20%-40%。” “我们几乎每周都从几家大客户那里收到这种需求。激光器目前是光模块业务最大的瓶颈。” 3. 中国在CPO波分复用(DWDM)规格激光器方面落后数年。 我之前在渠道调研CPO竞争时曾覆盖过这一点。 但$AAOI确认中国“至少落后两三年甚至更久”才能拥有CPO激光器,这极大地印证了西方激光器在CPO激光器卡脖子环节上的防御性地位。 总结: - CW激光器和光模块需求严重失衡。 - $AAOI因产能限制未进入第一代CPO(对$AAOI不算看空,因其光模块需求旺盛,但对$SIVE等少数有产能的独立厂商更是利好)。 - 中国在CPO激光器方面落后数年。
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Wow, there's gem after gem in $AAOI earnings for $SIVE + other laser player readthrough. 1. AAOI not meaningfully participating in CPO first-gen deployments. "We just can’t make enough of them [CPO lasers] to be involved in their current first-generation [CPO] deployments because there’s just not enough capacity. We have to prioritize our ability to make lasers for our own transceivers first" So first-gen CPO laser deployments, might even be narrowed down further for Western players like $SIVE, $LITE, $AVGO, and $COHR. And independent CPO CW laser capacity became more valuable if $AAOI had to turn away more customers... Also remember Trendforce was talking about $AMD singing CW LTAs? $COHR / $LITE have capacity signed with $NVDA ... I thought it would be $AAOI, but they might be out of the equation. $MTSI also doesn't look meaningful with early CPO participation (eg. no mention in ER aside from NPO, and removal from Ayar website). So I wonder who players like $AMD is going to go with for Helios (eg. Sivers + Ayar more likely candidate now)? Btw, this is not bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for optical transceiver business. Just more bullish on the existing few qualified CPO laser names that have capacity. 2. Demand imbalance and bottleneck for InP lasers / optical transceivers. AOI's CEO stated kinda supported that when they said: "The customer demand is 20%-40% higher" than expanded built out capacity. "We are getting this kind of demand from several big customers almost every week. Lasers are the biggest bottleneck right now for the transceiver business" 3. China being years away from having CPO DWDM specification lasers. I covered this earlier when looking at CPO competition from channel checks. But AAOI confirming that China is "easily at least two, three years or even longer from having CPO lasers is incredible tread through on defensibility Western laser positioning in the CPO laser chokepoint. TLDR: - High demand imbalance for CW lasers and optical transceivers. - $AAOI not in first-gen CPO due to capacity constraints (not exactly bearish AAOI because they have too much demand for their optical transciver business, but even better news for the few independent players with capacity coming online like $SIVE) - China years behind in CPO lasers.
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MTSI财报证实磷化铟DFB激光器短缺,利好SIVE和LITE。
$MTSI 财报电话会议记录: “由于磷化铟分布反馈(DFB)激光器普遍供应短缺,客户正迫切地向我们寻求解决方案。” 重点在于“迫切”、“连续波(CW) DFB激光器”以及“向我们寻求”。 像 $SIVE 和 $LITE 这样的连续波 DFB 概念股,听到这一激光器瓶颈得到验证应该会很高兴。
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$MTSI earnings transcript: "Customers are coming to us with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers" Emphasis on "Urgency", CW "DFB lasers", "coming to us". CW DFB names, such as like $SIVE and $LITE should be happy to hear about this laser bottleneck getting validated.
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InP激光器产能严重不足,看好新增独立产能标的。
@_king142 $LITE 首席执行官表示,即使其 5 座磷化铟(InP)激光器晶圆厂投产,出货量仍将低于客户需求 30% 以上。(甚至比当前的内存短缺更严重) $AAOI 也表达了类似的观点,缺口在 20-40% 之间。 我猜测 InP 衬底和激光器都将成为 2027 年最严重的瓶颈之一。 这就是为什么我非常看重任何新增的独立产能,无论是 $SIVE 与 Win 的合作还是 $AAOI。
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@_king142 $LITE CEO said even as their 5 InP laser fabs come online, shipments would be 30%+ below customer demand. (and worse than the current memory shortage) $AAOI said something similiar with a 20-40% figure. My guess is that InP substrates and lasers both will be one of the most severe bottlenecks in 2027. Which is why I place a lot of value on any independent capacity that comes online whether it's $SIVE with Win or $AAOI.
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AAOI财报验证光模块需求远超供应,产能爬坡中,看好板块传导。
以下是关于 $AAOI 财报的简要要点: - 预计超大规模客户将在未来几周内完成 1.6T 产品的全面认证(有助于收入爬坡 #2,时间线) - 继续认为 AOI 将拥有美国最大的 AI 数据中心光收发器产能(在竞争对手可能被禁时期重申雄心) - 预计磷化铟(InP)产能设施将于 2027 年初投产(进一步爬坡的时间线参考) - 总产能接近每月 20 万颗/单位,年底 800G/1.6T 达 65 万颗/单位。2027 年底达 93 万颗/单位(这是我想要看到的爬坡) - “增加外部光源(ELSFP)的制造产能。这是用于共封装光学(CPO)的”。我们预计今年晚些时候及 2027 年扩大生产,最终在 2028 年达到每月约 40 万件(需要时间将其建模为收入) - “如前所述,我们多年来一直内部制造激光器。这使我们避免了影响行业其他公司的短缺”(CW/EML 激光器短缺期间的垂直整合看多逻辑) - 我们相信未来 CPO 将继续推动对高功率激光器的需求增加(CPO 板块论点验证) - “长期目标是将非公认会计准则毛利率恢复到 40% 左右” - “第二季度末现金等价物总计 5.088 亿美元” 我需要再次确认 ATM 是否完成 - “我们交付收入的能力,特别是 800G 产品,目前受限于我们的生产能力”“如果我们能生产更多,我们现在就能发货更多” 需求 > 供应验证。 - “大部分增加的产能将在美国。即便如此,让我说,正如我一直强调的,这还不足以应对客户需求。客户需求高出 20%-40%。” 整个板块的光子学需求验证惊人,阅读 $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL 等公司的传导效应令人惊叹。 - “在未来两三年内不会,尤其是需求如此之大。好吧?即使结合 AI,$LITE, $COHR, $AVGO 加在一起,未来几年满足客户需求仍然非常困难” 更多光通信板块需求验证。 - CPO 时间线:“如果你说的是 CPO 市场的高产量制造商,我会说是明年第三季度末左右”以及“我们已与至少五家客户密切合作” 如果你关心当前财报(我并没有仔细看) 营收:1.91 亿美元 vs 1.90 亿美元 每股收益:0.06 美元 vs 0.02 美元 简而言之:激光器 + 光通信板块需求传导非凡。某种程度上支持 Lumentum CEO 关于激光器短缺比内存短缺更严重的说法。 2027 年产能爬坡按计划进行。要映射拐点期与时间线,大约在明年年初,正如他们之前的财报电话会议所述。 AAOI 现在拥有客户。限制在于制造足够的激光器和收发器。
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Just some TLDR notes on $AAOI earnings: - Expects full qualification of 1.6T products by their hyperscaler customer within next couple of weeks (helpful revenue ramp #2, timelines) - Continues to believe that AOI will have the largest AI DC transceiver production capacity in the US (reiterating ambitions during a time when their competitors might get banned) - Expects facilities toward InP capacity to come online in early 2027 (timeline FYI in terms of further ramp) - Total capacity is approaching 200,000/u per month, EOY 650,000/u per month of 800g/1.6t. EOY 2027, 930,000/u (this is the ramp i want to see) - "increase our manufacturing capacity for our external light source or ELSFP. That's for co-packaged optics or CPO". we anticipate ramping production later this year and into 2027, ultimately culminating in about 400,000 pieces per month in 2028 (need some time to model this into revenue) - "As we have mentioned before, we've been manufacturing lasers internally for many years. This has allowed us to avoid some of the shortages that have affected others in the industry" (vertical integration bull case during CW/EML laser shortages) - We believe that in the future, CPO will continue to drive increased demand for high-power lasers (thesis validation on CPO sector) - "to our long-term objective of returning non-GAAP gross margins to around 40%" - "We ended the second quarter with $508.8 million in total cash equivalents" I need to double check if the ATM finished or not - "our ability to deliver revenue in general, and specifically when it comes to 800G products, is limited by our production capacity right now" "If we could produce more, we could ship more right now" Demand > Supply validation. - "Most of the increased capacity will be in U.S. Even so, let me say that, like I keep emphasizing, that is not good enough for the customer demand. The customer demand is 20%-40% higher." Unholy photonics demand validation across the whole sector, read through for $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL, and others is amazing. - "Not in the next two, three years, especially the demand is so big. Okay? Even combined AI, $LITE, $COHR, $AVGO all together, it's still very tough to meet the customer demand in the next few years" More optical sector demand validation. - CPO Timelines: "If you're talking about really high volume manufacturer [for CPO market], I would say more like the late Q3 next year" and "We have been working very close with at least five customer" If you care about current earnings (which I'm not really looking at closely) Revenue: $191M vs. $190m EPS: $.06 vs. $.02 TLDR: Extraordinary demand across the laser + optical sector read through. Kinda supporting Lumentum CEO statement that laser shortage is worse than memory shortages. 2027 capacity ramp on track. To map inflection period with timelines, would be around early next year, as stated in their previous earnings call. AAOI has the customers now. Limitation is making enough lasers and transceivers.
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禁令利好西方光模块厂商,AAOI等1.6T+玩家受益。
@Lseperlee 对我来说,$AAOI 是 2027 年上半年末的放量玩家,因为大约那时他们将达到每月 4.71 亿美元营收预测的拐点。近期起草的禁止英诺赛科(Innolight)等公司新光模块的光模块禁令,增加了 $AAOI、$SIVE/$JBL、$LITE、$COHR 等公司在 1.6T+ 项目上的权重。尤其是如果该禁令在 2026 年最终确定。由于可能会出现价格上涨,且需求将更集中于少数西方玩家产能。
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@Lseperlee $AAOI is an end of H1 2027 volume ramp player for me, since around then is when they hit inflection point of $471m/month revenue projections. Recent drafted ban on new optical transceivers coming from Innolight and others, increase weight on players like AAOI, $SIVE / $JBL, $LITE, $COHR for their 1.6T+ programs as well. Especially if finalized in 2026. Since there's likely going to be price hikes, and more demand concentration over capacity from the select few Western players.
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Aeva切入CPO/NPO光源领域,利好上游激光器供应商Sivers。
本周的意外之事……是 $AEVA 成为共封装光学(CPO)/近封装光学(NPO) 光源玩家。 背景:$SIVE 被视为向 Aeva(以激光雷达闻名)供应连续波分布反馈(CW DFB) 激光器的高确定性供应商。 今天,Aeva 盘后大涨 18.26%,回应了与一家光学引擎厂商签署联合开发协议(JDA) 的消息,该协议将在 2027 年下半年部署于某大型超大规模数据中心,并于 2028 年量产爬坡。 “光互联将利用这一基础,结合 Aeva 现有的大规模制造和晶圆代工供应链”用于: - ELSFP(类似 O-Net/Enablence + $SIVE),Sivers 可能是 CW 激光器及潜在放大器供应商 - 片上集成光源(架构/集成方面可能是 $SIVE DFB + Aeva PIC) 简而言之:Aeva 在 CPO/NPO 领域获得新总可服务市场(TAM) 和超大规模数据中心项目,对 $SIVE 等上游供应商构成利好传导。
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The unexpected thing of the week... Was $AEVA becoming a CPO/NPO optical source player. For background: $SIVE is viewed as the high confidence CW DFB laser supplier to Aeva (which is known for lidar). Today, Aeva reacted with +18.26% AH on news that they signed a JDA with an optical engine player for deployment at a major hyperscaler in H2 2027, production ramp 2028. "Optical Connectivity will leverage that foundation along with Aeva’s EXISTING high-volume manufacturing and foundry supply chain" for: - ELSFP (similar to O-Net/Enablence + $SIVE), with Sivers as the likely CW laser + potential amplifier supplier - On-chip integrated light source (likely $SIVE DFB + Aeva PIC on the architecture/integration side) TLDR: New TAM and a hyperscaler programs for Aeva for CPO/NPO, positive read through for upstream suppliers like $SIVE.
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VIAV 澄清 CPO 无延迟,测试收入已落地,时间表符合预期。
今年最有趣的辟谣来自 $VIAV 关于共封装光学(CPO) 时间表的言论: “嗯,业界有很多关于延迟的讨论,比如‘哦,因为良率会较慢’。 那都是胡扯。CPO 和所有相关事物都在推进。” 他们表示,虽然始终存在问题,但流程正在改善,情况正在好转。 对此补充,CEO 表示: - Viavi 拥有 CPO 测试活动的采购订单(PO) - “我们本季度已经开始获得 [CPO 收入],可能 12 月会开始加速。” 顺便一提,他们还表示 1.6T 正在“快速爬坡”,明年应与 800G 持平,并暗示 800G 需求有更长的尾部效应。 简而言之:看到 CPO 测试收入正从 $VIAV 流向 $FORM 等公司。英伟达(Nvidia) 也表示用于扩展的交换机侧 CPO 已提前进入量产。 至于垂直扩展(scale up) 时间表,部分厂商的早期生产应在 2027 年下半年,而其他 CPO 厂商 Ayar 表示 2028 年是放量拐点。 基本上,所有时间表似乎与之前相同,收入正开始首先惠及测试厂商。
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Funniest callout of the year from $VIAV on CPO timelines: "Well, there's been a lot of industry talk [about delays], like, 'Oh, because the yield is going to be slower.' That's all nonsense. CPO and all that thing is moving forward" They stated that Yes there's always issues, but the process is being improved and things are getting better. To follow up on that, the CEO stated: - Viavi has POs for CPO-testing activity - “We’re already getting [CPO revenue] this quarter, and probably in December it will start accelerating.” On a side note, they also stated, 1.6T is "ramping very quickly", should reach parity with 800g next year, and signaled longer tail for 800g demand. TLDR: Seeing CPO test revenues hit for $VIAV to $FORM around now. Nvidia also stated switch-side CPO for scale out and scale across has entered mass production earlier. As for scale up timelines, early production should be H2 2027 for some players, with other CPO players Ayar stating 2028 is the volume inflection period. Basically, all the timelines seem to be the same as before and revenue is starting to hit testing players first.
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OE Solutions 研发垂直整合 1.6T 光模块,但处于早期阶段。
@NoKorea_YesUSA OE Solutions 正在开发具有内部 EML/CW 技术的垂直整合 1.6T 光收发器(1.6T Optical Transceivers)。但与其他公司相比,它仍处于早期阶段。
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@NoKorea_YesUSA OE Solutions is developing vertically integrated 1.6T optical transceivers with in-house EML/CW. But its early stage compared to the others.
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特朗普拟禁中国光模块,利好西方供应链分化。
西方供应链迎来了一个非常实质性的催化剂,涉及 $AAOI、$SIVE/Jabil、$LITE 和 Coherent:特朗普政府正在起草一项禁令,禁止新的中国光模块(Optical Transceivers)和直流(DC)设备。这可能会打击中国的中际旭创(Innolight)、新易盛(Eoptolink)以及其他中国光互连(Optical Interconnect)供应链。“该机构将禁止所有新型光模块的进口,然后豁免许多非中国供应商的限制。”我们可能会看到供应链出现更大的分化,西方玩家的重要性将进一步提升。
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A very material catalyst came about for Western supply chains from $AAOI, $SIVE / Jabil, to $LITE and Coherent: The Trump administration is drafting a ban of new Chinese optical transceivers and DC devices. Which would likely hit China’s Innolight, Eoptolink, and other Chinese optical interconnect supply chains. "The agency would ban all imports of new transceiver models and then exempt many non-Chinese suppliers from the restrictions" We'll likely see a larger bifurcation of supply chains with even greater importance put on Western players.
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内存大厂2027产能售罄,反驳供过于求论调。
SK海力士、$MU 和三星已售罄2027年的DRAM/HBM产能。 $SNDK、三星、美光当前的年度NAND产能已售罄,铠侠和SK海力士预计将于2026年8月前敲定分配方案。 - 客户仅能获得其初始请求量60-70%的配额 - 业内人士指出,2027年将迎来最严重的内存短缺时刻 - 分配数量已基本确定,但最终交货价格将在临近交付时确定 来源:Digitimes,引用行业消息。 当产能早已售罄时,很难看到那些关于2027年早中期内存“供过于求”的说法。
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SK Hynix, $MU , and Samsung have sold out of 2027 capacity for DRAM/HBM. $SNDK, Samsung, Micron current annual NAND capacity has been sold out, with Kioxia and SK Hynix expected to finalize allocations by August 2026. - Customers are being allocated only 60–70% of the volumes they initially requested - industry insiders pointed out that 2027 will enter the most severe moment of memory shortage - Allocation amounts are mostly decided, but final shipment pricing will be determined closer to delivery Source: Digitimes, citing industry sources. Hard to see those memory "oversupply" claims in early-mid 2027 when they're all sold out of capacity already.
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博主澄清CPO延迟谣言,认为亚洲股错杀,看好MSSCorp及早期受益股。
@Erick_P23 核心逻辑更偏向于共封装光学(CPO)的规模化,预计其复杂性将使MSSCorp成为检测良率方面的垄断型瓶颈(他们声称目标市场份额为90%)。尽管这些技术也可用于其他领域。 $FORM 的产能爬坡早了很多,所以下次财报中营收可能会开始显现? 无论如何,亚洲概念股因CPO时间表延迟的报道而大幅抛售,但我通过$AMD 大会上的渠道核实发现该报道不实。 我认为我的观点没有改变,更多的是在等待2027年。 像Shunsin这样拥有更多确认的规模化交换机出货量,以及像 $AAOI / $SIVE 这样的激光概念股,其产能爬坡要早得多。在我看来,这只是时间线的问题,以及市场何时愿意对此进行定价。
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@Erick_P23 Thesis is more for CPO scale up expecting complexity making make MSSCorp a monopoly-type chokepoint over inspection yields (they were claiming 90% market share target). Although they can be used for other segments. $FORM ramped a lot earlier, so maybe will revenue would start to appear in next earnings? Regardless, Asian names sold off extremely hard on CPO timeline delay report that I found to be incorrect with my channel checks at the $AMD conference. Don't think my views have changed, it's moreso waiting for 2027. Names with more confirmed scale-out switch volumes like Shunsin + laser names like $AAOI / $SIVE ramp a lot earlier. It's just timelines in my view and when markets want to price that in.
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博主转向关注上游瓶颈,预计能源和新云将因算力短缺跑赢。
@Schulz_Research 态势感知/Leopold 关于美国向推理(推理)和巨大能源需求转移的观点完全正确。我在2025年曾对 $IREN、$NBIS、$CIFR、$WULF 等新型云服务商(新云)持有类似论点。但我个人更转向关注上游瓶颈(上游瓶颈)和网络(网络)。不幸的是,基金未能完全熬过回撤。我们在内存集中度(内存集中度)上有重叠,但鉴于算力/容量短缺,我预计来自 $BE、$TE 的能源/电网或如 $SHAZ/$IREN 的新云将跑赢大盘。
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@Schulz_Research Situational Awareness / Leopold was completely right in terms of US shifting more toward inference + large energy demand. I had a similar thesis with Neoclouds like $IREN, $NBIS, $CIFR, $WULF, and others last year in 2025. But shifted more towards upstream bottlenecks + networking personally. It's just a little unfortunate the fund couldn't fully survive the drawdown. We did overlap in memory concentration but energy/grid from $BE, $TE, or neoclouds like $SHAZ / $IREN but I'd expect them to outperform given compute/capacity shortages.
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四大云厂商上调Capex指引,看好上游半导体及AI供应链瓶颈环节重估。
作为业绩复盘:$AMZN、$META、$GOOGL 和 $MSFT 将 2026 年联合资本支出(Capex)指引上调至约 7200-7450 亿美元。此前指引为 6950-7250 亿美元。亚马逊:2200 亿;谷歌:1950-2050 亿;Meta:1300-1450 亿;微软:1750 亿。我们已看到显著的降杠杆和零售/机构保证金清算(可能还会持续,谁知道呢)。但中长期来看,我不太明白为何有人看空上游半导体或新云厂商。鉴于每家超大规模云服务商都指出了算力短缺、云需求上升+定价权增强,或增加芯片/网络支出。我对许多上游半导体供应链的“瓶颈”论点是:当数万亿美元资本流入磷化铟(InP)衬底或存储(此前均被视为廉价大宗商品)甚至能源领域时。许多此前在电信周期中被视为无用甚至“卖马桶”的当前 AI 概念股。当拐点到来且资本支出流入其资产负债表时,估值将重估。正如过去几年 $NVDA GPU、今年存储、未来几年 CPU/MLCC、2027 年共封装光学(CPO)、2027 年玻璃衬底、2027 年 800V 等所见。
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As a earnings recap: $AMZN, $META, $GOOGL, and $MSFT guided a 2026 combined capex forecast to ~$720-$745 Billion. Up from $695-$725B Billion previously. Amazon: $220B Google: $195B-$205B Meta: $130B-$145B Microsoft: $175B We've already seen significant deleveraging and retail/institutional margin liquidations (maybe it continues for more time, who knows). But medium-long term, I'm not quite sure how anyone can be bearish the upstream semis or neoclouds. Given each hyperscaler has flagged either compute shortages, rising cloud demand + pricing power, or increased spending for chips/networking. My "bottleneck" thesis with many of these upstream semi supply chains is that when trillions in capital flows into things from InP substrates or memory (which were both treated as cheap commodities) or even energy. Lot of these current AI names that were treated as useless before in telecom cycles or even toilet sellers. Gets rerated when their inflection period hits and capex flows into their balance sheets. As seen with $NVDA GPUs past few years, memory this year, CPUs/MLCCs next few years, CPO in 2027, Glass Substrates in 2027, 800V in 2027, and so on.
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反驳媒体看空AI,指出巨头需求旺盛且韩国半导体大涨。
本周要点速览: 媒体:超大规模云厂商建设过剩,正在抛售多余算力。 -> $GOOGL, $MSFT, $META, 和 $AMZN:算力需求远超产能。资本支出(Capex)持续飙升。 机构:紧急加息或三次加息,行情就此终结。 -> Kevin Warsh:不会加息。 散户/媒体:AI因是泡沫而崩盘。 -> 城堡证券(Citadel)正寻求买入AI杠杆对冲基金头寸:👀 Jim Cramer:清仓所有杠杆型数据中心(DC)股票。 -> 韩国市场:SK海力士(SK Hynix) +30%,三星(Samsung) +26.81%
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Just a TLDR of this week: Media: Hyperscalers overbuilt and are selling excess compute. -> $GOOGL, $MSFT, $META, and $AMZN: Demand for compute far exceeds capacity. Capex go brrr. Institutions: Emergency rate hike or 3x rate hikes, it's all over. -> Kevin Warsh: No rate Hike. Retail/Media: AI is crashing because it's a bubble. -> Citadel looking to buy AI leveraged hedge funds positions: 👀 Jim Cramer: Sell all your leveraged DC stocks. -> Koreans: SK Hynix +30%, Samsung +26.81%
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POET与Sivers合作加速,2027H1订单落地,验证CPO等新技术拐点临近。
仔细想想,$POET 的光学中介层(optical interposer)业务与 $SIVE 的关联比我想象的更重要。起初措辞是2026年底的“准备就绪”,但 $POET 将其升级为与 Sivers 激光器合作的“量产”,预计2026年底实现。因此,从 $JBL 到 $POET 的批量订单应在2027年上半年落地。这很合理,因为 Sivers 已完成超认购的机构轮融资以支持未来大规模生产。顺便一提,难以置信已是八月,距2027年仅剩5个月……这是我预判玻璃基板、共封装光学(CPO)、800V 及新架构开始放量的拐点窗口。
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Now that I think of it more, $POET optical interposer piece is actually a little more material than I thought with $SIVE. Originally the wording was "readiness" for EOY 2026. But $POET upgraded that wording, by stating "production" with Sivers lasers projected EOY 2026. So a volume orders from across $JBL to $POET, should hit in H1 2027. Which makes a bit of sense, since Sivers did raise an institutional oversubscribed round for future mass production. On a side note, can't believe it's already August and 5 months left until 2027... Which was my inflection window for glass substrates, CPO, 800v, and new architectures to ramp.
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POET光学中介层进展升级,Sivers从准备就绪迈向2026年底量产。
@A22GEO $POET 的光学中介层(optical interposer)部分其实是一个非常有趣的更新,并谈到了 $SIVE。因为对于 Sivers 和 Poet 来说,这是关于 2026 年底“生产”(production)的时间表措辞升级。回想 Sivers 发布新闻稿时,用的词是“生产准备就绪”(production readiness)。
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@A22GEO The $POET optical interposer piece is actually a very interesting update and talks about $SIVE. Since it's a material timeline upgrade wording for "production" EOY 2026, for Sivers + Poet. Back when Sivers did their PR it was "production readiness" https://t.co/EHkOogR39K
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FORM财报显示CPO业务加速,处于早期爆发前夜,看好硅光子产业链。
以下是 $FORM 财报电话会议中关于共封装光学(CPO)的一些有趣要点: 由于“共封装光学(CPO)的加速增长”,系统收入几乎翻倍。 2026年Q1:“我们现在预计2026年CPO收入将达到1000万至2000万美元区间的高位。” 2026年Q2(当前):“预计第三季度末将超过该区间,全年整体将显著超过2000万美元水平。” 管理层表示:“我们看到这项[CPO]业务正在显著加速。” 问:CPO采用前景。我们是否预期时间表会略微提前? 答:“我想说的是短期内确实有加速。”但管理层表示时间表没有显著提前。 引用生产基础设施(不仅是研发)用于: - 今年晚些计划量产的CPO芯片日益增长的出货量 + 用于扩展和扩展交换机的测试插入。 - 似乎CPO部分通过 $TSM 的 COUPE 流程 [可能对应 $NVDA 的CPO产品] - “CPO部分确实通过那10%的客户流向。” 因此,鉴于管理层提到CPO芯片出货量增长,测试环节正在爬坡。 “我们CPO业务的近期快速增长令人兴奋,我们认为这代表了硅光子技术在更广泛半导体行业中广泛采用的非常早期阶段。” 简而言之:从根本上说,CPO作为一个主题仍处于非常早期阶段,但由于它现在开始出现在财报中,应该很快就会爆发(设备/测试玩家通常会在光引擎/激光器出货量爬坡之前先出现)。 个人而言,一旦所有去杠杆过程停止,我认为市场将开始更加关注这一点。
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Just some interesting takeaways from $FORM earnings call on CPO: Since they attributed systems revenue nearly doubled due to: "accelerating growth in co-packaged optics or CPO". Q1 2026: "we now expect 2026 CPO revenues to come in at the high end of the $10 million to $20 million range" Q2 2026 (now): "expect to exceed that range by the end of the third quarter, and to significantly exceed the $20 million level for the year overall." Management stated "We’re seeing some significant acceleration in this [CPO] business". Q: CPO adoption outlook. Are we perhaps expecting the timeline to accelerate a little bit? A: "What I would say is there’s acceleration here in the very short term." But management stated there's not a significant pull-in on timelines. Citing production infrastructure (not just R&D) for: - The growing volumes of CPO chips planned for later this year + test insertion for scale-up and scale-out switches. - Seems like that CPO piece flows through $TSM COUPE [ likely maps to $NVDA CPO products] - "The CPO piece does flow through that 10% customer" So now, test is ramping given management cited growing volumes of CPO chips. "The rapid recent growth of our CPO business is an exciting development, which we believe represents the very early stages of widespread adoption of silicon photonics in the broader semiconductor industry" TLDR: Fundamentally, CPO as a theme is very early, and should start to go brrr soon since it's starting to show up in earnings now (equipment/test players usually appear up first before optical engines / laser volumes ramp). Personally once all the deleveraging stops, I think markets will start to care more.
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质疑超大规模云厂商算力短缺说法,认为新云已锁定GW级容量。
@og_mcleod 抛售新云厂商,尽管它们已锁定GW级算力容量…… 如果超大规模云服务商整体存在算力短缺,这对我来说将是一个谜。
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@og_mcleod Selling off neoclouds, that has secured GW-scale compute capacity... While there's hyperscaler-wide compute shortages will be an engima to me.
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超大规模云厂商资本支出强劲,计算资源稀缺,AI抛售被夸大。
以下是来自 $META 和 $MSFT 财报电话会议的一些要点: 微软: - 尽管资本支出增加,预计2027年将实现自由现金流(FCF)转正(这对由运营收入资助的AI建设极为有利) - “自由现金流为196亿美元,反映了更高的资本支出” - 季度资本支出为410亿美元,其中约2/3为“短期资产,主要是CPU和GPU” - 预计下一季度资本支出将超过500亿美元 - 资本支出指引约为1750亿美元,2027年资本支出大致相同。支出计划不变且符合预期。 - “将数据中心的预计使用寿命从15年延长至25年” - “我们将成为首批部署基于 $AMD Helios 和 $NVDA Vera Rubin 的下一代机架级AI基础设施的云提供商之一” - “客户需求持续超过可用容量” Meta: - 资本支出1300-1450亿美元(范围收窄),此前为1250-1450亿美元。 - Meta 收到的报价比其支付价格有“显著溢价”(计算资源稀缺,对 $IREN / $NBIS 等新云厂商有利) - 预计大部分计算资源(如埃尔帕索的1GW数据中心)将用于开发内部模型。 - Meta 在其核心业务中有多个投资回报率(ROI)为正的额外计算用途(内部使用,非Meta Compute) - “最后,我们认为整体行业产能将在可预见的未来保持紧张” - “历史上行业对AI采用浪潮的建设不足,使得现有产能,包括我们自己的,极具价值” - Susan Li 总结: - $MSFT 和 $GOOGL 主要在保持自由现金流为正或通过运营收入的同时,维持AI资本支出建设。 - $META 指出可用计算资源至少到2027年都远低于需求。$MSFT 也指出计算需求远超供应。 - 三大超大规模云服务商的资本支出基本与Google上调资本支出数字一致。 现在的AI抛售似乎被极度夸大了,超大规模云服务商继续按预期进行资本支出(微软保持自由现金流为正)甚至像 $GOOGL 那样上调。 计算资源稀缺在所有超大规模云服务商的财报电话会议中可见。
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Just some takeaways from $META | $MSFT earnings calls: Microsoft: - Expected to be FCF positive in 2027, despite the increase in capex (extremely positive for AI buildout that it's funded by operating income) - "Free cash flow was $19.6 billion, reflecting higher capital expenditures" - Quartely capex was $41B, roughly 2/3rds were "short lived assets, primarily CPUs and GPUs" - Expects capex spend will be over $50 billion for next quarter - Capex Guidance at ~$175 billion and 2027 capex roughly the same. Spending plans unchanged and in line. - "Extending the estimated useful life of our data centers from 15 to 25 years" - "We will be among the first cloud providers to deploy next generation rack-scale AI infrastructure based on $AMD Helios and $NVDA Vera Rubin" - "Customer demand continues to exceed available capacity" Meta: - Capex $130-$145 billion (narrowed range), from $125B-$145B. - Meta is receiving offers at a "significant premium" to what they paid for it (compute scarcity, positive for neoclouds like $IREN / $NBIS ) - Expects significant portion of compute (like the 1 GW DC in El Paso) to develop internal models. - Meta has multiple ROI-positive uses for additional compute across its core business (internally, not Meta Compute) - "Finally, we believe that overall industry capacity is going to remain tight for the foreseeable future" - "The industry has under-built historically for the wave of AI adoption, making existing capacity, including our own, extremely valuable" - Susan Li TLDR: - $MSFT and $GOOGL largely sustaining AI capex buildout while remaining FCF positive or through operating incomes. - $META flags available compute materially below demand at least through 2027. And $MSFT also flags compute demand far exceeds supply. - All three hyperscaler capex largely in line with Google hiking capex figures. AI selloff seems extremely overblown now, hyperscalers continuing capex in line (with Microsoft being FCF positive) or even hiked with $GOOGL. Compute scarcity is visible throughout every single hyperscaler ER.
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AXTI获两大光学巨头巨额产能预留订单,信号积极。
@wz2013 $AXTI 此前已与 $COHR 签订长期协议(LTA),并支付了 2230 万美元的预留金。今天又与 $LITE 签订了 LTA,总计 8700 万美元(4350 万 + 4350 万)再次用于预留产能。考虑到这两家都是领先的光学玩家,这似乎是积极的信号。合同定价等具体细节尚不清楚,我们将拭目以待。
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@wz2013 $AXTI secured LTA with $COHR earlier, with a $22.3M reservation payment. As well as a LTA with $LITE today, totaling $87M ($43.5M + $43.5M) again to reserve capacity. Considering that these are both of the two leading optical players, seems positive. The actual details such as pricing of the contracts aren't known, so we'll find out more.
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AXTI与Lumentum签InP衬底长协,Lumentum付4350万定金预留产能。
$AXTI 与 $LITE 就磷化铟(InP)衬底签署长期协议。Lumentum 同意支付 4350 万美元定金以预留产能。https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa
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$AXTI enters long term agreement with $LITE for InP substrates. Lumentum has agreed to pay a deposit of $43.5M as a reservation for capacity. https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa
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美政府入股GFS推CPO,利好西方供应链玩家。
@Yeshuaisking11 对于关键矿产,我原本就预料到西方需要尽可能多的补贴来与中国竞争。 美国政府入股 $GFS 以支持共封装光学(CPO)并不在我的预期之内。但这确实表明 CPO 已成为算力供应链的优先事项,且他们已将格芯(Globalfoundries)打造为本土冠军。 我认为这对所有参与美国 CPO 供应链的西方玩家如 $LITE / $SIVE 都是利好。但对世界其他地区的相关企业则不然。
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@Yeshuaisking11 I kinda expected it for critical minerals since Western needs as much subsidies as possible to compete with China. US Gov taking a stake in $GFS for CPO was not on my calendar. But it does go to show CPO becoming a compute supply chain priority and they made Globalfoundries a domestic champion. Which my thoughts are that it's positive for all the Western players this US CPO supply chains like $LITE / $SIVE. Not so much for other parts of the world.
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美政府注资GFS加速CPO研发,利好硅光子供应链标的SIVE和LITE。
美国政府将持有 $GFS 1% 的股份,并授予其 3 亿美元用于美国《芯片法案》(CHIPS ACT)。 鉴于该《芯片法案》专门旨在推进共封装光学(CPO) + 硅光子技术(Silicon Photonics),这实际上是对 $SIVE / $LITE 的强烈利好映射(read through)。 (参考:Sivers 和 Lumentum 是 GFS 演示文稿中提到的唯二两家公开激光供应商。Sivers 激光阵列最近被指定为 Globalfoundries SCALE 用于 CPO 的参考设计。) 根据美国政府公告:“GlobalFoundries 将获得高达 3 亿美元,以将国内 CPO 研发加速两到三年”(NIST) 从未想过我们会看到美国政府 / $INTC 晶圆代工模式在特定 CPO 领域的应用...
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US Gov to take 1% stake in $GFS, and award them $300m for the US CHIPS ACT. This is actually a strong read through on $SIVE / $LITE, given this CHIPS ACT is specifically aimed at advancing CPO + Silicon Photonics. (For reference, Sivers and Lumentum were the only two public laser suppliers named in GFS presentation slides. Sivers laser arrays was named recently as a reference design in Globalfoundries SCALE for CPO). Per US Gov announcement: "GlobalFoundries will receive up to $300 million to accelerate domestic CPO R&D by two to three years" (NIST) Never thought we'd see the US Gov / $INTC foundry playbook for CPO in specific...
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英伟达拟担保OpenAI融资,博主质疑循环融资健康度但看好资本支出受益者。
英伟达正在洽谈为 OpenAI 的数据中心融资提供高达 2500 亿美元的担保。 - 软银旗下的 SB Energy 开发俄亥俄州 10GW 园区 - OpenAI 签署长期租赁协议 - $NVDA 担保 2500 亿美元融资 - OpenAI 正在讨论单独协议,购买高达 3500 亿美元的英伟达芯片。 不太确定这种循环融资长期来看是否健康,但鉴于 AI 基础设施支出的巨大规模…… 感觉资本支出受益者会非常高兴。
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Nvidia in talks to backstop $250B worth of OpenAI DC financing. - Softbank’s SB energy develops 10 GW Ohio campus - OpenAI signs long term lease - $NVDA guarantees $250B in financing - OpenAI discussing separate agreement to buy up to $350B in Nvidia chips. Not quite sure if this circular financing is healthy long term, but given the massive size of AI infrastructure spending… Feels like capex beneficiaries will be extremely happy.
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AI供应链多环节瓶颈与涨价,AMD光互连及存储需求强劲。
一些新闻摘要(TLDR): - 如果你看好中国存储,$CXMT 明天 IPO。 - 三星电子据报在获取大型 FC-BGA 基板方面遇到困难。伊比登(4062)据报要求长期协议(LTA)担保,三星电机寻求预付款。 - 三星 + $AVGO 签署至 2030 年的存储 + 代工 AI 框架,预计超过 2000 亿美元。 - $SOI 预计 2027 财年硅光子学收入将比上一年翻倍,超越摩根士丹利 60% 的增长预测。光子学逻辑起飞。 - SK 集团 + $NVDA 签署 5000 亿美元+ 合作伙伴关系,建设 AI 数据中心和 HBM4 内存。 - 据报 SKC Absolics 玻璃芯延迟至 2027 年。目标年底完成最终可靠性测试,明年量产。所以如果你好奇,这确实推迟了 $LPK 和其他人的爬坡(因此财报后下跌)。 - $QCOM 智能手机处理器价格因上游供应商涨价而两位数上涨。 - $META 预计发行 120 亿美元项目级/SPV 融资用于德克萨斯州埃尔帕索 AI 数据中心扩建。 - Naver 宣布 $NVDA 和 Brookfield 投资 100 亿美元建设 1GW 级 AI 工厂。近期计划是 2028 年达到 200MW。(英伟达投资 10 亿美元,Brookfield 非约束性 90 亿美元) - 64GB DDR5 服务器模块较 6 月底合约价上涨 146% - $INTC 将 14A 工艺量产提前一年,2027 年下半年风险生产,2028 年量产,相比此前 2029 年 HVM 预期。 - 三星电机赢得 2 亿美元 MLCC 订单(现有瓶颈)。 - $AMD(班达纳瓶颈),宣布 Helios 全面生产,2026 年 Q3 出货。包括与 Anthropic 部署高达 2GW 的 MI455X GPU 和与 OpenAI 的 6GW 基础设施。给出新的 >50% CAGR TAM,从 2025 年的 260 亿美元增至 2030 年的 2200 亿美元 CPU 市场。 - 2027 年为 Mi500 推出光互连。据渠道检查,AMD 正走向 CPO 路线(似乎很可能使用 Ayar)。 - $ORCL 赢得 70 亿美元国防部企业软件合同 - JX 金属将其韩国子公司半导体目标产能翻倍,投资 40 亿日元,2027 年下半年开始运营,应对三星电子和 SK 海力士等主要客户需求激增 - 钨六氟化物现货价格同比飙升 2.1-2.5 倍,继日本关东电化和中央气体宣布永久停产之后。随着 3M 计划退出 PFAS 生产,氟化液体供应面临真空。 - 从四家光芯片制造商财报来看,源杰/Eoptolink/TFC Optical/东山精密:无重大订单削减,1.6T 出货预计加速进入 2027 年。光芯片供应商预计将从短缺中获取超额利润。 - 宇树科技目标 2026 年人形机器人产能 30,000 台。阅读人形 TAM 像 $CCXI 等一样扩展。 - 储能锂电池订单上半年在中国增加 2900%。不太熟悉 EVE Energy 和其他电池制造商。
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Just some TLDR news: - $CXMT IPO tomorrow if you like Chinese memory. - Samsung Electronics reportedly struggling to secure large FC-BGA substrates. Ibiden (4062) reportedly requested LTA guarantees, Samsung Electro-Mechanics sought prepayments. - Samsung + $AVGO sign memory + foundry AI framework through 2030, expected to exceed $200b - $SOI expects FY2027 silicon photonics revenue to double compared to the previous year, surpassing Morgan Stanley's 60% growth projection. Photonics thesis go brrr. - SK Group + $NVDA sign $500B+ partnership to build out AI DCs and HBM4 memory. - SKC Absolics glass core delay to 2027 from reports. Targeting final reliability testing EOY, mass production next year. So if you're curious, this does push back some ramps from $LPK and others (hence drop on ER). - $QCOM price hikes by double digits for smartphone processors, due to upstream supplier hike pricing. - $META expected to issue $12B in project-level/SPV financing for El Paso, Texas AI DC expansion - Naver announced a $10 billion investment from $NVDA and Brookfield to construct a 1GW-scale AI Factory. Near term plan is 200MW by 2028. (Nvidia $1B investment, Brookfield nonbinding $9B) - 64GB DDR5 server modules rises 146% versus end-June contract pricing - $INTC brought forward 14A process mass production by a year, risk production H2 2027 and volume production in 2028, vs. 2029 HVM expectations. - Samsung Electro-Mechanics wins $200m MLCC order (existing bottleneck). - $AMD (the Bandana bottleneck), announces Helios is in full production with shipments Q3 2026. Including an up to 2GW MI455X GPU deployment with Anthropic and a 6GW infrastructure rollout with OpenAI. Gave new >50% CAGR TAM to $220B by 2030 from $26b in 2025 for CPU market. Rolls out optical interconnects for Mi500 in 2027. From channel checks, AMD is heading down to the CPO route (seems likely to use Ayar). - $ORCL wins $7B Department of War enterprise software contract - JX metal doubles semi target capacity at its KR subsidary with a 4B yen investment, with operations to begin H2 2027, amid surging demand from major customers Samsung Electronics and SK Hynix - Tungsten hexafluoride spot prices surged 2.1-2.5x Y/Y following Japan's Kanto Denka and Chuo Gas announcing permanent production halts. Fluorinated liquid supply faces a vacuum as 3M plans to exit PFAS production. - From the four optical chipmaker earnings, Yuanjie/Eoptolink/TFC Optical/Dongshan Precision: no major order cuts, 1.6T shipments expected to accelerate into 2027. Optical chip suppliers expected to capture outsized margins from shortages. - Unitree Robotics Targets 30,000 Humanoid Robot Production Capacity by 2026. Read through on humanoid TAM scaling like $CCXI and others. - Energy storage lithium batteries orders increase first half orders by 2,900% apparently in China. Not as familiar with EVE Energy and other battery makers.
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澄清AMD是AAOI首批CPO客户,并指出LITE/COHR/SIVE为CPO激光器核心标的。
@Thomus0x 呃,Rosenblatt 6月30日的研报指出 AMD 是 $AAOI 共封装光学(CPO) 最可能的首批客户。我不会说他们离实现还遥遥无期。 根据摩根士丹利最近的研报,$LITE / $COHR / $SIVE 目前在 CPO 激光器可见性方面看起来就是你最看好的前三大标的。
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@Thomus0x eh, Rosenblatt June 30 note identified AMD as the likely first $AAOI CPO customer. I wouldn't quite say they aren't remotely close. $LITE / $COHR / $SIVE just look like your top 3 right now in terms of CPO laser visibility per the recent Morgan Stanley note.