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惊讶 NBIS 和 IREN 回到 Mag7 合同前更低水平
真没想到我还能再看到 $NBIS 到 80 美元，或 $IREN 到 35 美元。 它们现在的交易价格，比最初宣布 Mag7 合同的时候还低很多。
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Never thought I’d see $NBIS at $80 or $IREN at $35 again. They’re both trading a lot lower than when they first announced Mag7 contracts. https://t.co/boqDYeyXzL
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分析 robotaxi 对 Uber 的威胁取决于合作方是否竞争
不同意，但这很有细节。 如果是 Waymo，Robotaxi 会毁掉 $UBER 的商业模式。 Uber 大概已经意识到，任何和 Waymo 的连接，最终都会把用户导向 Waymo 的直接应用，而这个应用有一天会替代/绕开 Uber。$GOOGL 完全有能力补贴利用率。 因此，$NBIS Avride 在德州和 Uber 的上线，就是聚合器模式的好例子：他们允许乘客匹配到一家非竞争性 Robotaxi 公司的车，而 Uber 还部分持有这家公司。 这实际上会让 Uber 应用受益。 如果 $UBER 打好牌，Robotaxi 不会杀死它；但如果 Uber 允许 Waymo 和 Tesla 这种有直接竞争应用的公司匹配客户，并把自己的用户导向竞争应用，那 Waymo 和 Tesla 会杀死它。
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Disagree, but it’s nuanced. Robotaxis will ruin $UBER’s business model if it’s Waymo. Uber likely realizes that every link with Waymo will eventually funnel into Waymo’s direct app that will replace/sidestep Uber one day. $GOOGL has no problems subsidizing utilization. Hence $NBIS Avride Texas launch with Uber is a good example of the aggregator model where they allow riders to match with robotaxis of a non-competitive Robotaxi company that they partially own. And this actually benefits the app. Robotaxis won’t kill if $UBER plays their cards right, but Waymo and Tesla (with direct competitor apps) will if Uber allows customer matching with them + serves as a funnel for their users unto competing apps.
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仍看多 NBIS，认为 MSFT/META 合同提供中期防御性
我仍然看多。人们似乎忘了，$NBIS 和 $MSFT、$META 的合同覆盖超过半个十年，100% 利用率，总合同规模 220 亿美元。 它们有很强的中期防御性，包括 Cursor 或 $NET 这样的企业用户。 太空中的数据中心目前更像量子一样，是偏近期探索性质，还不是广泛商业化的算力来源。 话虽如此，如果 $NBIS 也拥有一家太空公司子公司，我也不会惊讶，毕竟它们已经有自动驾驶汽车子公司了，哈哈。
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Still bullish. People seem to forget the $MSFT and $META deals for $NBIS are over half a decade, 100% utilization, and $22 Billion in contract size. They have great medium term defensibility, including all their enterprise users like Cursor or $NET. DCs in space is more near-term exploratory like quantum right now, not exactly widely commercializable and a source for compute yet. That being said I wouldn’t be surprised if $NBIS also owns a space company subsidiary given then already have self-driving car ones lol.
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提醒不要被评论吓跑，称这是正当复苏
@wealthmatica 嗯，别被评论区吓跑了，这确实是一个正当的复苏，只是现在还早。 我之前已经按成本结构和它带来的 FCF 提升算过了。
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@wealthmatica Eh don’t let the commenters scare you off, it’s a legitimate recovery but right now. Did the math earlier in cost structure + FCF boost from it https://t.co/vuJfLCh80l
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看好 SNAP 低估但反驳存储付费采用率过高假设
兄弟，我也一直在发 $SNAP 多头帖，但 memories 变现的采用率大概最多也就是低个位数。 大多数人的使用量并没有超过 5GB。 那 9.43 亿月活用户里，怎么可能有 80% 甚至 25%（你上个帖子里的说法）的人为额外存储付费？ 而且它一直是代际财富毁灭机。 话虽如此，现在它确实被低估了；2% 的采用率就会带来巨大的收入增量。 但人们漏掉的核心，是从 GCP 成本削减带来的 opex 下降，比如那些 9GB 浪费的热狗视频。
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Bruh, I’ve been bull posting $SNAP too but adoption rate of memory monetization is probably single low digit at best. Majority of people don’t have over 5 GB used. So how are majority of 80% or even 25% (from your previous post) of the 943M monthly users paying for extra storage? Also it’s been a generational wealth destroyer. That being said it’s undervalued right now, 2% adoption leads to a huge increase in revenue but the core thing people miss is opex cuts from GCP costs from 9 GB wasteful hotdog videos.
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AVGO财报被误读，AI逻辑未变，大跌提供买入良机。
我对 $AVGO 财报的解读是，市场主要误解了其积压订单(backlog)数据。关于 $NVDA GPU 生态系统和 Mag7 ASIC 生态系统的 AI 交易整体逻辑依然成立，但市场却将其视为泡沫破裂+严重不及预期。我们正经历从“AI是下一个大趋势”到“AI是泡沫”，再到“AI是下一个大趋势”，最后又回到“AI是泡沫”的循环。波动性和13%以上的跌幅使得多只股票成为良好的买入机会。
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So my takeaway from $AVGO earnings is that it's mainly misunderstood backlog numbers. Overall thesis on AI trade from $NVDA GPU ecosystem and Mag7 ASIC ecosystem is in-tact but the market is treating it like a bubble popping + terrible miss. We're just going from AI is the next big thing -> Ai is a bubble -> AI is the next big thing -> AI is a bubble. Volatility and -13%+ drops makes several names a good buy.
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研究博通财报及ASIC需求外溢，计划加仓光电子股LITE。
@DigestingX 我正在研究 $AVGO 的财报，以及专用集成电路(ASIC)需求外溢至光电子(Photonics)领域如 $LITE 的情况！ 我想增加我的 $LITE 仓位，因为那目前是我持仓中占比最低的，所以正如你提到的，这可能是一个买入机会。
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@DigestingX I'm researching $AVGO earnings right now and ASIC demand spillover to photonics like $LITE! I wanted to add to my $LITE position since that was my lowest right now, so might be a buying opportunity as you mentioned.
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批评Snap AR战略失误，但认可其降本举措，认为当前估值具备投资价值。
这个观点很有趣，但我不同意。鉴于$SNAP在增强现实(AR)开发上的资本支出(capex)如此之高，它本应像$META放弃元宇宙(Metaverse)那样直接砍掉所有AR开发。 他们本应直接宣称：“我们是一家社交媒体公司”，并利用自由现金流(FCF)收购类似早期Facebook的社交媒体公司（而非硬件公司），从而与TikTok/Meta竞争。 如果当初这么做，$SNAP现在市值早已超过800亿美元。然而多年来他们未能产生更多自由现金流，这简直愚蠢至极，也证明了CEO及其愿景有多糟糕。 但他们确实做了一件事，即我原本希望Evan去做的：削减谷歌云(GCP)成本并像iCloud那样对“回忆”功能进行货币化，他们确实做到了。 尽管我认为这是一家管理极差的公司，但我认为从估值角度看，它现在是一个不错的投资标的。
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Interesting take but I disagree. $SNAP should have just scrapped any AR development (like $META for Metaverse) given how much capex spend it is. And just went out and say: "We're a social media company" + compete vs Tiktok/Meta by acquiring social media companies like early stage Facebook (instead of hardware ones) with FCF. $SNAP would have been a $80B+ company by now but the fact they're not producing more FCF after all these years is just incredibly stupid and a testament to how bad the CEO + vision is. But they did the one thing I wanted Evan to do which was cut GCP costs and monetize memories like ICloud, which they did. Even though I think it's a terribly run company I think it's a good investment now for the valuation.
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看好$SNAP因降本增效及AI收入，预计2026-27年有100%+涨幅。
$SNAP 在 7.64 美元时被极度低估。 -> Snapchat 通过转向 GCP 削减运营支出，并将其转化为收入。 -> Perplexity 交易在现有收入基础上增加了 4 亿美元股权/现金。 预计这些变化带来的净自由现金流(Net FCF)在 2026 年底至 2027 年初将达到 +6.3 亿美元（+1.9 亿运营云支出节省，+5.4 亿内存收入，-1 亿存储成本）。 CEO 出售 1000 万美元股票并不重要，尤其是当有 5 亿美元回购时。 $SNAP 不需要成为 $META，它永远不会是。 在 130 亿美元市值下，它只需要削减成本并改善来自其 15-20 亿美元季度收入（~55% 毛利率）的自由现金流。 那么即使用户增长放缓或轻微下降，它也将获得巨大的重估。 目前税务收割(tax harvesting)可能在未来两周结束。但如果你能等待整整一年，我有信心一旦计入 GCP 运营支出削减和 AI 收入流，Snap 将大幅跑赢任何指数。 进入 2026-2027 年，这里有 100%+ 的上行空间。
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$SNAP is incredibly undervalued at $7.64. -> Snapchat cutting opex costs with GCP and converting that to revenue. -> Perplexity deal adding $400m in equity/cash on top of existing revenue. Net FCF Is estimate from these changes is +$630M (+$190M opex cloud, memory revenue +540M, storage cogs -$100m) late 2026, early 2027. The CEO selling $10M in shares is not material, especially when there's $500M in buybacks. $SNAP doesn't need to be $META, it never will. At a $13B marketcap, it just needs to cut costs and improve FCF from its $1.5B-$2B quarterly revenue (~55% gross profit margins). Then it will be re-rated immensely, even if user counts slows or slightly drops. Right now tax harvesting is likely ending next two weeks. But if you can wait a whole year, I'm confident Snap will strongly outperform any index once we factor in GCP opex cuts and AI revenue streams. 100%%+ upside here going into 2026 - early 2027.
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看好AAOI中期潜力，因ASIC生态关键地位及美国制造优势，但暂小仓位以控风险。
是的，我非常非常喜欢 $LITE，但它的高估值溢价已经被市场充分定价。 我仅在 $AAOI 上持有相对较小的仓位，主要是出于执行风险的考虑：万一超大规模云厂商取消采购订单，或者面临捷普(Jabil)的竞争。 话虽如此，它目前被市场当作一家小型组件制造商来定价，但实际上它受益于微软(Microsoft) Maia 和亚马逊(Amazon) Trainium 的 AI 芯片量产，且“美国制造”是其强劲驱动力，因为它在超大规模云厂商的专用集成电路(ASIC)生态系统中扮演着关键角色。 这只是一项基于定性分析的投资，依据诸如 30-35% 的毛利率等粗略估算，以及假设其因 2026 年超大规模云厂商的放量而超越市场预期。 不过，其市值足够小，足以让我将其作为中期投资标的。
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Yeah I really, really like $LITE but it’s already priced in with a premium. I only have relatively small positions in $AAOI though just because of execution risk in case a hyperscaler drops purchase orders + competition from Jabil. That being said it’s priced as a small cap component manufacturer but has AI $MSFT Maia $AMZN trainium ramp and made in America as a great driver since it plays a critical part in the hyperscaler ASIC ecosystem. This is just a qualitative investment, off rough estimates like 30-35% margins and assumptions of beating projections due to hyperscaler ramp in 2026. The marketcap is small enough to make me an investor for medium term though.
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分析AAOI依赖Mag7的垂直整合优势，已建仓并看好LITE。
我原本在研究一篇来自 Semianalysis 的文章中关于 $AMZN Trainium 基准测试以及亚马逊供应链的内容。鉴于一些朋友（如 @yianisz）之前曾对此发帖讨论，我决定深入挖掘。亚马逊在扩大 Trainium/Inferentia 集群时提供了约 40 亿美元的支出作为后盾，加上 $MSFT 在 ASIC 集群上的投入，随着行业向 800G 升级，我们很可能会看到更多超大规模云厂商客户。对于一家市值 25 亿美元的公司来说，如此依赖 Mag7 的情况实属罕见 lol。下行风险与积极因素并存：由于激光器在德克萨斯州内置生产，该公司实现了垂直整合（更高利润率）。我看好未来巨大的量增需求，但：关键在于执行，他们必须在不搞砸的情况下建成 800G/1.6T 光收发器。我已经全仓持有 $AAOI，出于风险管理考虑，仓位规模相对较小适中（毕竟它仍是 25 亿市值的小盘股）。我依然更看好 $LITE，但鉴于其本月已上涨 46%，很难进行补仓。
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I was actually looking into $AMZN Trainium benchmarks from a semianalysis post and at Amazon's supply chain. And some friends like @yianisz post about it earlier, so I decided to look deeper at it. But it has ~$4B spend from $AMZN as a backstop as they ramp up Trainium/Inferentia clusters, spend from $MSFT ASIC clusters, and we'll likely see more hyperscaler clients as the industry moves to 800g ramp. Mag7 dependency is incredibly rare coming from a $2.5B marketcap company lol. Downside + positive: Is vertically integrated (higher-margins), since it's lasers are builtin Texas. I see just incredible volume demand, moving forward but: the whole name of the game is execution since they actually have to build out the 800G/1.6T transceivers without messing up. I'm fully invested already in $AAOI already with relatively small-moderate position sizing for risk management (it's still a small cap with $2.5B MC). I still like $LITE a lot more, but a bit hard to cost average up on that when it's up 46% this month.
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作者认为因拥有直接大客户及更低估值，$AAOI 优于 $POET。
我研究过 $POET，但相比 $AAOI 我更喜欢后者，因为 AAOI 已经拥有 $MSFT 和 $AMZN 等直接超大规模客户(hyperscaler customers)。$POET 旗下的 Celestial 已被 $MRVL 收购，Celestial 使用 Poet 的中介层(interposer)来连接 TPU/Trainium，而 Marvell 将其出售给超大规模客户。但这并不等同于通过直接来自 $AMZN 和 $MSFT 的大批量订单以及类似 Amazon 与 $ALAB 的股权投资协议来实现的“几步之遥”的去风险(de-risking)。Amazon 在 $AAOI 中拥有类似 $ALAB 的财务激励，但 Astera 已经是家市值 300 亿美元的公司，而 AAOI 的市值仅为 25 亿美元。
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I've looked into $POET but didn't like it as much compared to $AAOI given AAOI already has direct hyperscaler customers with $MSFT and $AMZN. $POET had Celestial that got acquired $MRVL, where Celestial used poet’s interposer to connect tpus/trainium, and Marvell sells that to hyperscalers. But it's not quite the same de-risking few hops away as direct massive volume orders from $AMZN and $MSFT and equity agreements that Amazon has like they did with $ALAB. Amazon has a financial incentive in $AAOI like $ALAB, but Astera is already a $30B company, while AAOI is a $2.5B MC.
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看好$AAOI，因其在AI光互联中的核心地位及美国本土制造优势，认为其被严重低估。
我买入 $ALAB、$NBIS、$TSM 和 $LITE，是因为“七巨头”(Mag7) 的收入正流向这些公司。 $LITE 的独特之处在于其在 GOOGL TPU v7、AMZN Trainium v3/4 和 NVDA Blackwell 中的角色。 但我发现了一个新标的。 一家市值低于 30 亿美元的小盘股，符合我的投资逻辑： 名称 - $AAOI 一家小型光子学玩家，也是我持仓的两家光子学公司之一： 1. Lumentum ($LITE) 在每一款芯片的部署/爬坡中都占据独特地位，因为其光电路交换(Optical Circuit Switching) 技术被用于 Blackwell、Trainium 和 Ironwood，作为一种“横向扩展”(scale-across) 型技术。 无论超大规模云厂商选择 ASIC 还是 GPU，$LITE 都能胜出，因为它处于核心位置。 2. Applied Optoelectronics ($AAOI) 更多涉及“纵向扩展”(scale-out) 连接，针对 Trainium、Maia 等定制 ASIC 集群，通过 400G 和 800G 光缆及光收发器实现。 鉴于 $AAOI 在 AWS（Trainium 的大客户）和 MSFT Maia ASIC 中的角色，它也能无论何种情况都胜出。 行业正经历由向 800G 速度迁移驱动的“超级周期”，而 AAOI 正处于中心位置。 此外，AAOI 具有独特的地缘政治角度： 美国优先。 与许多无晶圆厂(fabless)并将生产外包到台湾的公司不同，Applied Optoelectronics 在德克萨斯州自行制造激光器。 美国超大规模云厂商（特别是 Amazon 和 Microsoft）正在积极减少对关键基础设施中国供应链的依赖，这有助于 AAOI 实现本土激光器制造。 我们还看到一家“主要超大规模云厂商”对其 800G 数据中心光收发器下达了另一笔巨额订单。 但 AAOI 的交易表现像一家困境公司；然而，其亚马逊权证协议隐含的收入为 2025 年 Q4 和 2026 财年的 800G 爬坡创造了非对称的风险/回报特征。鉴于其在 AI 建设中的角色及现有的超大规模云厂商合同，AAOI 似乎结构性被低估。 市场终于开始重估 $LITE，但感觉 $AAOI 才刚刚开始，鉴于其小市值以及作为超大规模云厂商 ASIC 集群关键玩家和“美国制造”的独特角度。 市场目前正在对光子学玩家进行大幅重估并赋予高溢价，但 AAOI 今年仅上涨 2.20%，似乎蓄势待发。
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I entered $ALAB, $NBIS, $TSM, and $LITE because of Mag7 funneling revenue numbers into them. Lite uniquely because of its role in GOOGL TPU v7, AMZN Trainium v3/4, and NVDA Blackwell. But there's a new one I found out about. A small cap <$3B player that fits the thesis: Name - $AAOI A small cap photonics player, and one of the two photonics players I'm invested in: 1. Lumentum is uniquely positioned in every single supply chip deployment/ramp, as the Optical Circuit Switching technology is used in Blackwell, Trainium, and Ironwood as a "scale-across" type technology. $LITE wins no matter what. Hyperscaler ASIC vs. GPU as it's in the center of it all. 2. Applied Optoelectronics is more of the "scale-out" connectivity, for custom ASIC clusters like Trainium, Maia through 400G and 800G optical cables and transceivers. $AAOI wins no matter what as well given its role with AWS as a whale client for Trainium, and with MSFT Maia ASICs. The industry is going through a "supercycle" driven by the migration to 800G speeds and AAOI is in the center of it. On top of that, AAOI plays unique geopolitical angle, America first. Unlike many other companies that are fabless and export production elsewhere to Taiwan, Applied Optoelectronics makes their own lasers in Texas. US hyperscalers (specifically Amazon and Microsoft) are aggressively reducing reliance on Chinese supply chains for critical infrastructure and that helps AAOI’s ability to manufacture lasers at home. And we've seen another huge volume order from a "major hyperscaler" on its 800G data center transceivers. But AAOI trades like a distressed company; however, the implied revenue of its Amazon warrant agreement creates an asymmetric risk/reward profile on its 800G ramp in Q4 2025 and FY2026. AAOI seems structurally undervalued, given its role in the AI buildout and existing hyperscaler contracts. The markets are finally catching up to LITE, but it feels $AAOI is yet to begin, given its small market cap size but unique angle of a critical player to hyperscaler ASIC clusters and Made in America. The market is currently re-rating heavily with photonics players and assigning a heavy premium, yet AAOI is only up 2.20% this year and seems like it's just about to begin.
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Neocloud龙头承压，但获超大规模云商背书的个股是理想买点。
我预计Neocloud股票今天会表现不佳，因为$ORCL/$CRWV是“板块龙头”。 但这将是该板块个股的理想买入机会： 因为市场忽略了$ORCL/$CRWV高负债扩张的主要交易对手是OpenAI这一细微差别。 但该板块的其他公司如$NBIS、$CIFR、$WULF则由AAA评级的超大规模云服务商（$META/$META/$GOOGL/$AMZN）的现金牛业务提供背书。
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I expect a bad day for Neocloud stocks just because $ORCL / $CRWV are "sector leaders". But this would be an ideal buying opportunity for individual companies in the sector: Due to the market missing the nuance that $ORCL / $CRWV's debt-filled buildout is for OpenAI as the main counterparty. But other companies in the sector like $NBIS, $CIFR, $WULF are backstopped by AAA-rated Hyperscaler ( $META / $META / $GOOGL / $AMZN) cash cows.
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因OpenAI资金风险回避ORCL，看好其他新云厂商回调机会
我一直将 $ORCL 列为回避名单，这次财报导致其下跌11%正是原因所在。 我需要更多时间深入研究，但令人担忧的不仅仅是资本支出(capex)，很大一部分是因为这些支出是为 OpenAI 服务的（而 OpenAI 没有足够的资金来覆盖积压订单）。 其他新云厂商(neoclouds)如 $NBIS 没有这个问题，因为它们的积压订单来自确实有钱的 $MSFT。超大规模云厂商(hyperscaler)的资本支出漏斗才是新云厂商核心逻辑的核心，而不是像甲骨文那样依赖/受制于 OpenAI。 因此，其他新云厂商随之抛售带来的下跌提供了一个良好的机会。
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I’ve been putting $ORCL on avoid and this earnings was the reason why on the 11% drop. I need more time to look into it but it’s not just capex spend that’s worrying, a large part of it is because of OpenAi (which doesn’t have the funding for the backlog) that a lot of the spend is for. Other neoclouds like $NBIS don’t have this problem because their backlog is from $MSFT that actually have the money. And hyperscaler capex funnel was the core Neocloud thesis, not levered/contingency on OpenAi which oracle faces. So selloff on other Neoclouds that got brought down with it presents a good opportunity
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分析NBIS受ATM及空头压制，但基本面强劲且机构增持，高波动需耐心持有。
就我个人对 $NBIS 的观察来看，其表现主要受定向增发(ATM)抛压、板块拖累、短期空头以及19日到期的巨额未平仓合约影响。例如，$CRWV 昨日上涨5.13%，而 $NBIS 同日下跌3.91%，我认为这归因于空头或ATM操作。有些令人遗憾，尽管 $NBIS 是降息的最大受益者（新云(neocloud)板块），但今天下跌2%，而其他散户宠儿如 $RKLB 却上涨8%+。价格走势有时会让你自我怀疑，但即使有10%的稀释，也改变不了你提到的事实：Nebius 2026年底年化经常性收入(ARR)中值为80亿美元，与Avride推出了Robotaxis，与 $META 达成30亿美元交易，Clickhouse增长极快，另外两家子公司同比增长100%，其中Toloka受益于 $META 的Scale收购。机构持股比例目前可能接近52%（上月彭博终端显示50%多，MSCI调整前），较上季度的30%多高，机构确实在从投降的散户手中收购股份。此时持有很痛苦，但请记住作为市场上最高贝塔(beta)股票之一，它在一周内可能波动35%。（在2-3周内从100美元到140美元到95美元再到130美元）。
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So from what I've seen personally with $NBIS, it's largely ATM overhang + sector drag + short term shorts, and large amounts of open interest expiring on the 19th. For example, $CRWV was up 5.13% yesterday, while $NBIS was down 3.91% same day, and I'd attribute that to either shorts/ATMs. It's a little unfortunate, even as the largest beneficiary of rate cuts (neocloud sector), $NBIS is down 2% today while other retail favorites like $RKLB are up 8%+. Price action makes you doubt yourself sometimes, but even with 10% dilution, it doesn't really change the fact as you mentioned Nebius has $8B midpoint ARR EOY 2026, they launched Robotaxis with Avride, $META $3B deal, Clickhouse is growing incredibly fast, and their other two subsidaries are growing 100% Y/Y with Toloka benefiting from $META Scale acquisition. Institutional ownership is now probably closer to 52%(bloomberg terminal 50's last month pre msci) from high 30's last quarter and institutions are definitely acquiring shares from retail capitulating. Painful hold at this point, but keep in mind it can move 35% on a random week as one of the highest beta stocks in the market. (went from $100 to $140 to $95 to $130 in the span of 2-3 weeks).
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美联储降息后发布12月11日个股评级，重点推荐AI基建、稳定币及超跌成长股。
美联储降息25个基点后。 12月11日评级： 强烈买入： $CRCL $COIN $AMKR $CRDO $IBIT $MSTR $AMZN $SMCI $TSM $TSSI SK海力士 $SNAP 三星电子 $ALAB $META $NBIS $CIFR 买入： $KRUS $AVGO $NFLX $KRKNF $HIMS $FLY $OSS $TE $FLNC $LITE $COHR $RKLB $TTD $NVDA $CLS $GOOGL $RDDT $WULF $CRWV $IREN $GLXY $WLAC $MPWR 回避 $RGTI $PLTR $WMT $ETH $BMNR $TSLA $IONQ $ORCL $SLNH $OKLO 解释： 今天美联储如期降息25个基点。这通常会引导流动性进入成长股，并利好那些债务使用最多（以更低利率再融资）的中小盘股，例如像$NBIS和$CIFR这样的新云(Neoclouds)。 然而，这也恰逢日本加息，可能导致去年重新加载的套息交易(Carry Trade)平仓；但这是短期的，基本面>短期波动。 强烈买入评级： Circle - 大幅下跌主要由于IPO后的股份解禁。然而，降息损害了其商业模式~利息收入减少20%。 话虽如此，我们看到稳定币市场大幅增长，我个人看到大量早期风险投资（a16z, Sequoia等）涌入与稳定币相关的公司，如新银行(Neobanks)。我们应该看到所有这些都流入更多的USDC铸造，铸造量将抵消降息的影响。 Coinbase - 与Circle相同，他们在USDC方面有50%的收入分成。然而，他们还有自己的交易所，而且降息通常有助于风险资产如加密货币（尤其是比特币跌破9万美元后）。 Amkor - 受益于半导体/晶圆厂向美国制造的转移。 Credo - 过去5天下跌-16%，今天下跌8%。很好的恢复性买入，不认为数据中心建设的数据连接需求会下降。 ALAB - 与CRDO相同的论点 IBIT (比特币) - 始终是长线好标的，尤其是在$93K时 Microstrategy (MSTR) - 受益于比特币复苏，并分析了他们是否会爆仓。TLDR：不会，在需要支付利息之前（约2029年），我们还有另一次比特币减半事件。 Amazon - 今年一动不动。基本面改善，年底有助于电商部门。定制芯片、星座、Robotaxi，他们基本上什么都做，而市场尚未真正奖励他们的努力。只是感觉我们可能会在接下来的2个月看到它跑赢大盘。 SMCI - 之前发过关于这个的论点帖，惊人的恢复性买入。它因将收入积压转移到下一季度而在财报后下跌，但市场没有定价他们未来收入同比增长60%但交易在~11倍远期市盈率的事实。 TSM - 整个AI/半导体建设的骨干。我们看到关于TPU与GPU的争论，但TSM不在乎。 TSSI - 与SMCI相同的论点，依附于Dell，作为一个代理，我们看到来自IREN等供应商和其他在2026年建设数据中心的新云的巨大积压，我们应该看到这在明年实现。 SK海力士 - 显然有关于在美国市场上市升级的传闻，这应该提振流动性。此外，内存市场因AI建设而需求极高。 Snapchat - 只是被低估。$13B市值，~1B+季度收入。NA DAU较上季度下降3%，但不要为了成为下一个FB而买入。他们只需要削减GCP成本并货币化记忆功能（他们已经做了），我们应该看到明年重新评级100%+，特别是随着Perplixty交易带来的$400m+额外收入/股权。 三星电子 - 人们认为这也是内存，因为它构成了他们利润的很大一部分，但我将其视为潜在的下一个现金牛晶圆厂玩法，如TSM，作为第二大玩家吸收任何最大产能溢出。 META - 一次性税收抛售，超卖。现在我们终于看到他们创建前沿模型（Avacado，如果我记得没错的话）。所以他们可以货币化他们一直在花钱的llama开源llm努力。他们还削减了元宇宙努力，这应该是对盈利能力的巨大推动。 Nebius - 由于2500万股稀释导致短期拖累。ATM可能正在提供。话虽如此，一旦完成，由于来自其DC业务（7-9B ARR）及其4家市场未定价的子公司（同比增长100%+）的远期收入/增长，极度低估。 CIFR - 由于比特币价格（资产负债表上持有大量）导致短期下跌，但由于他们做托管(Colo)模式，不受GPU贬值争论的太大影响。此外由Google背书，并与Amazon有合同，因此从根本上降低了风险，是新云领域的顶级买入之一。 买入评级： 文字空间不够，所以给出更短的TLDR Kura Sushi - 波段交易，拉出5年图表，你会明白我的意思，每次它触底（大约现在）。这从未失败过！ Broadcom - 超大规模建设，与联发科一起对TPU至关重要 Netflix - 16%的下跌对于收购来说感觉有点不必要 KRKNF - 基本面增长良好，作为Andruil供应商的市场具有防御性。 HIMS - 股票回购计划，通常低于$40是很好的买入/波段交易。Zava收购未被定价，且仍在增长。 FLY - SpaceX $1.5T估值应该提振整个太空板块。这是2026年中型发射的玩法。 OSS - 之前对此进行过DD，潜在的Andruil供应商。否则，在这个市值下无论如何都有些低估。 TE - 少数Murican能源基础设施之一，太阳能。它可能比核能更商业化。 FLNC - 与AI建设+能源相同的论点 LITE - 现在相当过度延伸，不会追高。但长期受益于处于tpu ironwood + blackwell建设的中间。 COHR - 与Lite相同，但似乎是次要玩家。 RKLB - 可能是我最喜欢的长线。现在相当高估，但由于SpaceX的FOMO无法避免。 TTD - 之前的论点帖，仅基于远期收入数字，似乎是一个很好的恢复性玩法。 NVDA - TPU恐惧有点夸大，看看积压订单。 CLS - TPU v7生态系统买入 GOOGL - 他们像NVDA一样销售TPU，像Waymo一样增长Robotaxi市场，Gemini成功。全方位开火。 Reddit - 就像早期的Robinhood一样，只是一台印钞机。对RDDT通过FCF增长收购做了一些论点评论。否则，他们将留下来并受益于所有世代使用它（不像Snap那样早期） WULF - 类似于CIFR。重新评级可能会发生，取决于更多关于Anthropic建设的信息。 CRWV - 糟糕，糟糕的长线。良好的短期恢复性买入。 IREN - 如果他们继续购买GPU来做AI云，我不会把钱投进去，只是因为稀释。但他们可能会做托管，并且拥有大量的GW容量，所以仍然很有希望。 GLXY - 数据中心建设的受益者。 WLAC - 可能他们本月进行SPAC IPO。他们说Q4。 MPWR - TPU v7生态系统买入 回避 RGTI - 量子，没有基本面/收入支持 PLTR - 449.01B市值lol WMT - 他们每年增长4%的收入，但交易在40倍市盈率，这很疯狂。 ETH - 以太坊伟大的网络。然而，没有代币销毁，也没有收入流向代币持有者。糟糕的投资，伟大的开发者工具/生态系统。 BMNR - 以太坊代理。 TSLA - 有点脱离基本面。但这是对elon musk、大规模Robotaxi、机器人的赌注。我个人只是认为这过度承诺，但我们会看到。 IONQ - 量子，没有基本面/收入支持 ORCL - 大部分远期积压依赖于openai，如果openai在市场份额上输给claude/gemini，这使得事情极其不确定/有风险。话虽如此，现在是一个很好的恢复性买入，但长期来看有风险。 SLNH - 如果你想被他们的2.8gw管道稀释到虚无，这是要持有的股票。 OKLO - 没有像量子那样的基本面来支持目前的市值，这可能需要多年才能实现。
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Post-Fed Interest Rate 25BPS cut. December 11th ratings: Strong Buy: $CRCL $COIN $AMKR $CRDO $IBIT $MSTR $AMZN $SMCI $TSM $TSSI Sk Hynix $SNAP Samsung Electronics $ALAB $META $NBIS $CIFR Buy: $KRUS $AVGO $NFLX $KRKNF $HIMS $FLY $OSS $TE $FLNC $LITE $COHR $RKLB $TTD $NVDA $CLS $GOOGL $RDDT $WULF $CRWV $IREN $GLXY $WLAC $MPWR Avoid $RGTI $PLTR $WMT $ETH $BMNR $TSLA $IONQ $ORCL $SLNH $OKLO Explanations: Today fed cut interest rates 25BPS as expected. This usually funnel liquidity into growth stocks and benefits small-medium caps that use debt the most (refinance with lower interest rates), such as Neoclouds like $NBIS and $CIFR. However, this coincides with Japan hiking, which might lead to carry trade unwind from last year's reload; but this is short term, fundamentals > volatility short term. Strong Buy Ratings: Circle - Massive drop mainly due to share unlock post IPO. However, rate cuts hurt their business model ~20% revenue cut from interest. That being said, we're seeing a massive growth in the stablecoin market, and I'm personally seeing huge early venture capital funding (a16z, sequioa, etc). being poured into stablecoin related companies such as Neobanks. We should see all of this funnel into more USDC printing, and the printer outweigh rate cuts. Coinbase - Same as Circle, they have 50% revenue sharing in terms of USDC. However, they also have their exchange on top, and rate cuts generally help riskier assets such as crypto (especially post drop Bitcoin sub 90k) Amkor - Benefits from Made in America shift to semis/fab. Credo - Dropped -16% last 5 days, and 8% today. Great recovery buy, don't see connectivity demand dropping from DC buildout. ALAB - Same thesis as CRDO IBIT (Bitcoin) - Always a great long, especially so at $93K Microstrategy (MSTR) - Benefits from Bitcoin recovery and did an analysis whether they would get liquidated or not. TLDR: no, we have another bitcoin halving event before they need to pay off interest, which was around 2029. Amazon - Hasn't moved an inch all year. Fundamentals improving, EOY helps E-commerce division. Custom chips, constellations, robotaxis, they're basically doing everything and market hasn't really rewarded their effort yet. Just a feeling we might see this outperform next 2 months. SMCI - Did a thesis post on this earlier, amazing recovery buy. It dropped on earnings due to shifting revenue backlog to next quarter, but markets aren't pricing in the fact they're growing 60% Y/Y forward revenue but trading at ~11 forward p/e or so. TSM - Backbone of the whole AI/semi buildout. We're seeing arguments about TPU vs. GPU, but TSM doesn't care. TSSI - Same thesis with SMCI, piggybacks off of Dell, just as a proxy we're seeing massive backlog from vendors such as IREN, and other neoclouds building out DCs 2026, and we should see this come into fruition next year. Sk Hynix - Apparently there's been rumors about uplisting to US markets, which should be a boost to liquidity. Also memory markets is just incredibly high demand from AI buildout. Snapchat - Just undervalued. $13B marketcap, ~1B+ quarterly revenue. NA DAU dropped 3% from last quarter but don't buy this for being the next FB. All they need to do is cut GCP costs and monetize memories (which they did) and we should see this re-rate 100%+ next year, especially with $400m+ in added revenue/equity from the Perplixty deal Samsung Electronics - People think of this as memory as well because it makes up a large part of their profit, but i see this as a potential next cash cow foundry play like TSM, as the 2nd largest player to soak up any max capacity overflow. META - One time tax selloff, was oversold. Now we finally see them create a frontier model (Avacado) if i remember correctly. So they can monetize the llama open source llm efforts they've been just blowing money on. They also cut their metaverse efforts, which should be a huge boost in proftiability. Nebius - Short term drag due to 25m share dilution. ATM is likely being offered. That being said once this finishes, insanely undervalued due to forward revenue/growth from both its DC business (7-9B ARR), and its 4 subsidaries that the markets dont price in (growing 100%+ Y/Y) CIFR - Short term drop due to Bitcoin prices (holding a lot on balance sheet), but not really affected by GPU depreciation arguments since they do colo models. Also backstopped by google, and they have contracts with Amazon, so fundamentally disrisked and one of the top buys in neocloud secotr. Buy Ratings: Running out of text space so will give a shorter TLDR Kura Sushi - Swing trade zoom out 5 year chart and you'll see what I mean every time it bottoms (around now). This never fails! Broadcom - Hyperscaler buildout, critical to TPU alongside Mediatek Netflix - 16% drop feels a bit unwarranted for the acquisition KRKNF - Great growing fundamentals and defensible market as an andruil supplier. HIMS - Share buyback program, usually sub $40 great buy/swing trade. Zava acqusition not being priced in and it's still growing. FLY - SpaceX $1.5T valuation should boost up the whole space sector. This was a 2026 play for medium lift. OSS - DD on this earlier potential andruil supplier. Otherwise, kind of undervalued at this MC anyway. TE - One of the few Murican energy infra, Solar. It's likely more commercial than Nuclear. FLNC - Same thesis with AI buildout + energy LITE - Pretty overextended right now, wouldn't chase. But long term benefits from being in the middle of both tpu ironwood + blackwell buildout COHR - Same with Lite, but seems like a secondary player. RKLB - Probably my favorite long. Pretty overvalued right now but can't help it due to SpaceX fomo. TTD - Thesis post earlier, just based on forward revenue numbers, it seems like a great recovery play. NVDA - TPU fears are a bit overblown, just look at backlog. CLS - TPU v7 ecosystem buy GOOGL - They sell TPUs like NVDA, growing robotoaxis market like waymo, gemini succesful. Just firing on all fronts. Reddit - Just a money printer like early day Robinhood. Made some thesis comments about RDDT growing in terms of acquisitions from FCF. Otherwise, they're here to stay and benefits from all gens using it (unlike snap which is earlier) WULF - Similar to CIFR. Rerating might happen depending on more info about the Anthropic buildout. CRWV - Terrible, terrible long. Good short term recovery buy. IREN - I would not put money into this if they kept buying GPUs to do AI cloud just due to dilution. but they might do colo and they have an immense amount of GW capacity so it's still promising. GLXY - Beneficary of DC Buildout. WLAC - Possible that they're SPAC ipoing this month. They did say Q4. MPWR - TPU v7 ecosystem buy Avoid RGTI - Quantum, no fundamentals/revenue to back it up PLTR - 449.01B market cap lol WMT - They're growing like 4% revenue a year, but trading at 40 p/e which is insane. ETH - Ethereum great network. However, there's no token burn and none of the revenue goes to token holders. Terrible investment, great developer tooling/ecosystem. BMNR - Ethereum proxy. TSLA - Kind of detached from fundamentals. But it's a bet on elon musk, robotaxis at scale, robotics. I personally just see this as overpromising, but we'll see. IONQ -Quantum, no fundamentals/revenue to back it up ORCL - Most of forward backlog is dependent on openai, which makes things incredibly uncertain/risky if openai falls to claude/gemini in market share. That being said, it's a good recovery buy right now, but long term it's risky. SLNH - This is the stock to be in if you want diluted to oblivion on their 2.8gw pipeline. OKLO - no fundamentals like quantum to back up mc at this moment, this likely years out to come into fruition.
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批评$NBIS大规模ATM增发导致股价承压，对比$CRWV表现。
$NBIS 有一个2500万股的自动取款机(ATM)增发，很可能正在公开市场上出售。 $CRWV 今天上涨了5.13%+，而 $NBIS 收盘下跌3.91%。这就是为什么我非常讨厌这种规模的ATM增发。 这基本上就是在等待公司完成ATM增发，或者在其他做空者活动的背景下暂停它。
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$NBIS has a 25 million share ATM that's likely being sold on the open market. $CRWV went up 5.13%+ today while $NBIS ended the day down 3.91%. That's why I really dislike ATMs at this size. It's just basically waiting for the company to finish the ATM offering or pause it amid other short seller activity.
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大幅加仓TSM并适度买入CRCL，看好其突破机会及USDC业务前景。
今天大幅加仓了 $TSM，价格约 $302.5。 同时也适度加仓了 $CRCL，价格约 $87.2。 自 $TSM 创下纪录般的业绩以来，股价一直在震荡整理，直觉告诉我它随时可能突破。这纯粹是凭感觉。 至于 $CRCL，虽然降息对其不利，但美元稳定币 (USDC) 的铸造仍在持续。加密货币也从12月的降息中反弹，且股份解禁已完成。 因此我认为 $190亿市值是一个很好的机会。自首次公开募股 (IPO) 以来我就想做多 Circle，但直到最近才等到机会。
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Added very heavily in $TSM today ~$302.5. Also added a decent amount in $CRCL positions at ~$87.2. We’ve been chopping since record breaking earnings from $TSM just felt it would breakout anytime now. This is just gut feeling. As for $CRCL rate cuts hurt, but the USDC printer keeps on going. Crypto also rebounding from Dec rate cut, and share unlock is done. So felt $19B MC was a good opportunity. I wanted to go long on Circle ever since IPO but never got the opportunity to until recently.
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确认$NBIS期权合约作为示例
@blu400_ 是的，$NBIS 12/19 $130C 就是一个例子
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@blu400_ I do, $NBIS 12/19 $130C was one example
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推荐买入$ALAB，因其高利润率及超跌后的反弹潜力。
@IncrediBadly $ALAB 是一笔极佳的买入。其利润率高于 $NVDA，且同比增长三位数。该股已从 $250 的高点回落，是绝佳的反弹买入机会。在此价位可能不会做期权交易，但持有股票等待也不无坏处。
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@IncrediBadly $ALAB is an amazing buy. Higher margins than $NVDA and growing triple digits Y/Y. It's already down from it's $250 high, great recovery buy. Around here probably wouldn't do options but shares can't hurt for waiting.
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回顾对LITE的TPU v7供应链研究，认为其前景好但当前估值略高。
@itsthesquonky 大约在我对 $LITE 进行 TPU v7 供应链研究的时候！ 前景非常令人期待，但目前略微过度延伸。
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@itsthesquonky Round the time I did supply chain research on TPU v7 for $LITE! Incredibly promising but a tad overextended right now https://t.co/QFojyOiXXP
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日元套利平仓短期利空，中期利好新云板块，建议做多。
短期日元套利交易平仓（日本加息，美联储降息）带来轻微负面影响。中期影响对成长型资产，尤其是涉及债务驱动增长的“新云”板块（如 $CRWV, $IREN, $NBIS）应极具看多意义。基本面未见放缓迹象，因此我认为现在是做多的好时机。
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Short term unwinding from yen carry trade (Japan rate hike, fed cut), which was slightly negative. Medium term impact should be incredibly bullish on growth assets, especially Neocloud sector that involve debt for growth like $CRWV, $IREN, $NBIS. Don't see any fundamentals slowing, so great time to go long imo
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SMCI因订单延迟致短期利空，但长期增长确定且估值极低，强烈建议买入。
@LandoInvests 很乐意就 $SMCI 进行辩论，我在文中阐述了其因 2026 年第二季度前瞻性营收积压（Forward Revenue Backlog）而注定复苏的逻辑。 https://t.co/FJj3yXlhGT （该推文引用了 @aleabitoreddit 的推文，引用内容仅供理解语境）: 将 $SMCI 评级上调至极度强烈买入（EXTREMELY STRONG BUY），目标价约 $33（市值约 190 亿美元）。 • 2026 财年营收预期上调至 360 亿美元以上（较 220 亿美元同比增长 60%+）。 • AI 数据中心（AI Data Center）建设（如 $NBIS、$IREN、$DGXX）使 GPU 服务器需求保持最大化。 这并非 $CRDO 那种营收同比增长 272% 的故事，而是被错估的价值。 原因如下： SMCI 财报后下跌源于两点：对利润率压缩（Margin Compression）的担忧和营收不及预期。 1. 2026 年第一季度的“不及预期”实为订单延迟： • 营收为 50 亿美元，低于此前 60-70 亿美元的指引。 • 然而，这仅仅是 15 亿美元推迟至第二季度，客户在等待英伟达 Blackwell Ultra 配置。且公司甚至将全年指引从 330 亿美元上调至 360 亿美元。 2. 利润率压缩担忧： • 2025 财年净利率：约 5.9%（220 亿美元营收对应 13 亿美元净利润）。 • 当前的利润率压缩是暂时的。随着数字租赁中心（Digital Lending Center, DLC）制造沿学习曲线（Learning Curve）下行，单位成本下降，利润率上升。管理层目标下半年毛利率约 11%，净利率回升至约 5.5%。 若毛利率均值回归至约 11%，净利率在 360-380 亿美元营收基础上回归至 5-6%，你将看到 20 亿美元以上的盈利。 营收：380 亿美元 净利率：5.5%（复苏情景） 隐含净利润：20.9 亿美元 股本：6.8 亿股（稀释后） 股价：约 33.85 美元 市盈率计算：33.85 / 3.07 = 11.0 倍 远期市盈率：约 10-13 倍，对于一家拥有 60%+ 远期增长的公司来说，极其便宜。 $SMCI 不依赖 GPU 使用寿命的会计游戏，无论如何它都出售机架。 此外，$NVDA、$NBIS、$CRDO 及其他 AI 数据中心股票在财报后确认 AI 热潮并未放缓。 $SMCI 是 AI/数据中心热潮的核心，同比增长 60%+，但市场却将其视为类似 $MSTR 的困境资产。 因此我建立多头头寸，因为 $SMCI 看起来是硬件板块中风险调整后最具吸引力的 6 个月（中期）交易，拥有 50-100% 的上行空间。
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@LandoInvests Happy to debate $SMCI, I put my thesis here on why it's bound for a recovery due to forward revenue backlog in Q2 2026. https://t.co/FJj3yXlhGT
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虽非NBIS死忠粉，但看好其基本面改善，愿逢利空卖出。
@pepemoonboy @Hedgeye 谢谢！不过我并不是 $NBIS 社区的硬核成员。如果基本面发生不利变化，我不怕卖出该股票。但到目前为止，我只看到从母公司到其子公司的积极变化，因此我对该公司的未来感到兴奋。
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@pepemoonboy @Hedgeye Thanks! I'm not a hardcore $NBIS community member though. If something bad changes to the fundamentals, I'm not afraid to sell the stock. But so far I've only seen positive changes from the parent company down to its subsidiaries so I'm excited for the future of the company.
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看好RKLB与NBIS，认为市场低估了这两家行业第二梯队的成长潜力。
市场正在错误定价地球上最大板块中的第二梯队玩家。 我对 $RKLB = $NBIS Avride 的论点： 1. 太空领域 ($RKLB) -> SpaceX 估值刚从 $350B 升至 $800B。Rocketlab 将从 $26B 增长至 SpaceX 之前的估值水平。 这只是时间问题。 2. 自动驾驶出租车 (Robotaxis) ($NBIS) Waymo 在一年内从 $45B 涨至 $200B。$NBIS Avride 将从 $6B 增长至 Waymo 之前的估值水平。 这只是时间问题，无论是一年还是四年后。 关于 $NBIS 的关键点是：Avride 只是其众多子公司之一，仅这一家公司在两年内的价值就可能超过当前的整体市值。 市场和空头都错误定价了这样一个事实：Nebius 拥有地球上增长最快、最热门的板块公司，且全部实现 100%+ 的同比增长。 做多 $RKLB，做多 $NBIS。
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The market is mispricing the #2 players in the biggest sectors on Earth. My thesis on $RKLB = $NBIS Avride 1. Space ( $RKLB ) -> SpaceX just got valued at $800B from $350B. Rocketlab will grow into SpaceX's prev valuation from $26B It's just a matter of time. 2. Robotaxis ( $NBIS ) Waymo went from $45B → $200B in 1 year. $NBIS Avride is going to grow into Waymo's previous valuation from $6B. It's just a matter of time, whether that's 1 year or 4 years from now. And here is the thing with $NBIS: Avride is just one subsidiary out of multiple, and this company alone could be worth more than the entire market cap today in 2 years. Both the market and short sellers misprice the fact that Nebius owns the fastest growing and hottest sector companies on Earth, all growing 100%+ Y/Y. Long $RKLB, Long $NBIS.
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IREN和WULF主要涉及可转债套利而非做空。
@MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye 关于 $IREN 和 $WULF 这类股票，大部分是可转债套利(convertible note arbitrage)而非做空(shorts)。
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@MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye on stuff like $IREN and $WULF majority is convertible note arbitrage not shorts.
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以OKLO为例，说明做空引发的轧空导致股价大幅飙升。
@MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye 增加了波动性。我的意思是，看看当 Kerrisdale 做空 $OKLO 时发生了什么。由于空头被挤压（Short Squeeze），其股价在较长周期内从 25 美元飙升至 175 美元。
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@MambaHarveyInc @babyfolio @Hedgeye added volatility. I mean just look at $OKLO when kerrisdale shorted. went from $25 to $175 in the longer run because shorts got squeezed.
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RKLB有望追赶SpaceX获10倍回报，Avride有望追赶Waymo。
@RKLBMan @Hedgeye 是的，我对 $RKLB 的投资论点(Thesis)是，它会在合理的时间内（例如5到7年）追赶上 SpaceX，而 SpaceX 上一轮的估值为3500亿美元，这意味着超过10倍的回报。 我对 Avride 持有相同的论点，它可能会在两三年内追赶上 Waymo 在2024年450亿美元的估值。
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@RKLBMan @Hedgeye yeah my thesis in $RKLB was that it will catch up to SpaceX in a due amount of time (eg. 5, 7 years) and SpaceX's last valuation was $350B, so that's 10x+ return. Same thesis for Avride, will catch up to Waymo's $45B valuation back in 2024, maybe in two-three years.
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Avride是$NBIS核心资产，自动驾驶出租车市场潜力巨大，机构严重低估$NBIS价值。
根据 Seeking Alpha 报告与 Nuro 的基准对比，其估值现在可能约为 60 亿美元。但我会说 Avride 是 $NBIS 的皇冠明珠，而非 Clickhouse，尤其是当 Waymo 等自动驾驶出租车 (Robotaxi) 公司在短时间内估值飙升至 1000 亿美元以上时。 $TSLA 仅因推出自动驾驶出租车就增加了数千亿美元的价值（例如 Cathie Wood 表示自动驾驶出租车可能占特斯拉价值的 90%），这是一个因参与者稀缺而具有极大上行空间的市场。 基本上只有 $TSLA、$GOOGL 的 Waymo、$AMZN 的 Zoox、现代……以及正试图抵御自动驾驶出租车竞争的 $UBER。 $UBER 通过 Avride 而非与 Waymo 合作来扩大其防御能力至关重要，以避免将客户引导至竞争对手的应用程序（例如他们联合投资了 3.75 亿美元的原因）。 鉴于 $NBIS 拥有 Avride 83% 的股份，如果其规模达到约 450 亿美元市值（这是 Waymo 在 2024 年 10 月的估值）……这实际上超过了 Nebius 今天的市值，而它才刚刚在德克萨斯州启动。 像 Hedgeye 这样的基金可能没有计算 SOP 增长，并且严重低估了 Nebius。
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Probably around $6B now as per the seeking alpha report benchmarked vs Nuro. But I'd say Avride is crown jewel of $NBIS, not clickhouse, especially when robotaxi companies like Waymo scaled to a $100B+ valuation in a short time. $TSLA gained hundreds of billions in value just due robotaxi launch (eg. Cathie Wood said robotaxis could be 90% of tesla's value) and it's a market with extreme upside due to lack of players. There's basically just $TSLA, $GOOGL Waymo, $AMZN Zoox, Hyundai... and then $UBER which is trying to defend themselves against robotaxi competition. $UBER has the upmost importance to scale its defensibility with Avride instead of partnering with Waymo -> funneling customers into the other app. (eg. why they joint invested $375M). Given how $NBIS owns 83% of avride, if it scales to ~$45B MC, which was Waymo's valuation BACK in October 2024.... That's literally more than Nebius's marketcap today lol, and it just launched in Texas. Funds like Hedgeye probably aren't accounting for SOP growth and are vastly underestimating Nebius.