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SIVE 估值仍有上行空间
我认为在 $YSS + Golden Dome 和 Lightmatter 这些信息/新闻出来之后，$SIVE 今天现实中的估值大概应该在 30 亿美元左右。 纳斯达克上市不会从根本上改变它，但会给它更多流动性，用来弥合估值差。 明年冲到 100 亿美元非常有可能。 如果它们愿意通过下游 IP 收购来加速，我认为未来几年内它有一条现实路径去挑战 600 亿美元以上的 $LITE。
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I think $SIVE realistically should be valued around ~$3B today after information discovery/news around $YSS + Golden Dome and Lightmatter. NASDAQ listing doesn’t change it fundamentally, but gives it more liquidity to bridge that valuation gap. Next year $10B very possible on volume ramp. And I see a realistic path to competing with $60B+ $LITE over next few years if they want to speedrun it with downstream IP acquisitions.
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SIVE 仍被低估
@Berlinergy 我看到 $SIVE 到 2027 年会到 100 亿美元以上。 我不觉得大多数人或市场已经意识到它会映射到多少家超大规模云厂商供应商……而且他们也还没把 IP 收购带来的 TAM 扩张算进去。
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@Berlinergy I see $SIVE at $10B+ in 2027. Don’t think most people or markets realize how many hyperscaler suppliers they map to yet… also they didn’t factor in TAM expansion with IP acquisition yet either.
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20.9M 对大公司不算太大
@ShadowTrades149 对，我看到了。2,090 万美元对一家 100 亿美元以上的公司来说其实不算太重要（但也有帮助），所以我没单独写。
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@ShadowTrades149 Yeah I did. $20.9M isn’t really very material to a $10B+ company (but helpful) so didn’t cover it.
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SIVE 估值与客户映射
我现在给 $SIVE 的估值是 20 亿美元以上，并且认为它们明年能到 100 亿美元以上……2028 年还会更多。 它们在量产爬坡前可能已经有的用户： - $AMD CPO | $GFS - $MRVL CPO | $POET - $JBL 1.6T 光模块 - $AAPL 硅光 - $POET - Ayar - AlChip | Ayar - GUC | Ayar - O-Net ELS 还不算其他未确认的名字。 对一家 11 亿美元估值的激光公司来说，这简直离谱。甚至还没算上 TAM 扩张，比如新的超大规模云厂商客户，或者 $GOOGL / 三星跟着苹果走。 而且……“执行不确定性”其实已经被转嫁给 Win Semi，也就是 $AVGO 的代工方，所以这件事很让人安心。
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I value $SIVE $2B+ today, and think they can hit $10B+ next year... and more in 2028. Their likely existing users before volume ramp: - $AMD CPO | $GFS - $MRVL CPO | $POET - $JBL 1.6T Optical Transcivers - $AAPL Silicon Photonics - $POET - Ayar - AlChip | Ayar - GUC | Ayar - O-Net ELS Not including other unconfirmed ones. This is unholy coming from a laser company at a $1.1B valuation. And not even considering TAM expansion like new hyperscaler customers or $GOOGL / Samsung following Apple. Also... "execution uncertainty" is literally just passed along to Win Semi, the foundry for $AVGO, so this is chilling.
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DNB 为 SIVE 估值发声
赞同，也很高兴看到欧洲领先银行之一 DNB 跟我一起出来为 $SIVE 的估值辩护。 我还是认为，随着激光业务按比例扩张，$SIVE 一年内可以到 100 亿美元市值。其增长会按以下规模推进： - $AAPL Watch - $JBL 1.6T 量产 - $MRVL CPO 量产 - Ayar 量产 - $POET 量产 这取决于它们如何从认证阶段走向量产爬坡。 既然 Sivers 正在给这个领域里下一代 1.6T / CPO 玩家供应激光器（进入类似 $AMD、$NVDA、$AMZN、$MSFT 这样的供应链），那就是已经存在的玩家了，市值大约 9.9 亿美元而已。还没算 TAM 扩张或者更多合作出现。 尤其现在有了纳斯达克上市，美国机构会提前按 12 个月的前瞻来定价，而欧洲本地估值主要看过去 12 个月。 银行通常会给出很保守的目标（比如 3 年 10 倍），但我确实看到这家公司很快可能变成下一个 $LITE。 欧洲应该拥抱自己公司为超大规模云厂商供货所带来的正和增长。 因为它们的前沿公司会通过税收、经济增长和就业增长回馈本地。
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Agreed, and glad DNB, one of Europe's leading banks, went out to defend $SIVE valuations alongside me. I still think $SIVE can reach $10B MC in 1 year time as their laser growth scales proportionally to: - $AAPL Watches - $JBL 1.6T Volume - $MRVL CPO Volume - Ayar Volume - $POET Volume Depending on how their qualification plays out into volume ramp. As Sivers supply lasers to all the next generation of 1.6T/CPO players in the space (into ~ $AMD, $NVDA, $AMZN, $MSFT type supply chains). These are EXISTING players at a ~990M MC. Not even including TAM expansion or more partnerships coming up. Especially now with NASDAQ listing, US institutions are forward looking and price in ~12M ahead of time, compared local European valuations that mainly look at previous 12 months. Banks usually provide very conservative targets (eg. 3 years for a 10x), but I do see potential for this company to be the next $LITE very soon. Europe should embrace positive-sum growth of their own companies that supply to hyperscalers. As their frontier companies provide back to locals through taxes, economic growth, and job growth.
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SIVE 仍有巨大上行
@scrotum_pensif 我还是认为，$SIVE 今天应该值 20 亿美元，而且如果 Ayar、$MRVL、$JBL 等在 2028 年的量产爬坡顺利，明年可以到 100 亿美元以上。 他们现在一切条件都对齐了。
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@scrotum_pensif I still think $SIVE should be valued $2B today and can hit $10B+ next year depending on volume ramp from Ayar, $MRVL, $JBL and others in 2028 They have all the stars aligned right now.
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SIVE 可能明年就到 10B
@88magalhaes 对，我之前还觉得 $SIVE 两年内能到 100 亿美元……但也许明年就真的有可能了？ 市场通常会提前 12 个月定价，所以如果 2028 年有巨大的量产爬坡预期，那么 2027 年就有可能先反映出来。
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@88magalhaes Yeah I thought $SIVE could reach $10B in 2 years time... but maybe by next year it's a real possibility now? Markets usually look forward 12M, so if there's massive 2028 volume ramp projections, it's a possibility in 2027.
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SIVE 仍然非常早期
@FamineRE $SIVE 现在还非常早期，如果一切条件都对齐，再看管理层有多激进，我觉得两年内有很清晰的 100 亿美元以上路径。
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@FamineRE $SIVE is extremely early and I see a clear path to $10B+ in 2 years if the stars align + depending how ambitious management is