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  1. 分享激进卖出高IV看跌期权的策略、保证金管理及风险警示。

    激进地卖出期权(Writing Options)$100万组合如下: 5天收益+$20.24K,周回报2.024%,年化回报183.48%。 以$100万现金、IBKR组合保证金为例: 85股 $NBIS $96看跌期权(+$5.52K权利金) ($809K保证金) 55股 $HIMS $49.5看跌期权 (+$1.427K) ($270k) 250股 $CIFR $10看跌期权 (+$5.239K) - ($253k) 80股 RKLB $42看跌期权 (+3.8K) ($332K) 35股 TGT $85看跌期权 (+$1.3k) ($296k) 35股 AMZN $207.5看跌期权 (+$1.22K), ($725K) 50股 IBIT $59看跌期权 (+$947.86) - ($293k) 5股 META $712.5看跌期权 (+$869) ($335K) $100万现金,331万保证金。如果下周持有现金,我会这么做。 这是对每只股票进行底部择时(Bottom Timing),并基于基本面、宏观时机、事件和波动率预测本周不会触及的行权价。 如果在财报周做,回报可能高于183%,这通常是最有利可图的事件。但再次强调,超级危险,这只是我个人会做的,仅供娱乐阅读或在模拟账户尝试,不要实盘。 此外,我是凭记忆估算保证金维持要求(例如,由于META、TGT、AMZN等贝塔值低,你可以加更多杠杆)。 你必须择时底部然后卖出看跌期权。例如:AMZN不太可能跌破$210,BTC在$107k左右见底,RKLB短期不会低于$43,NBIS有$100支撑,TGT见底,META不太可能一周跌5%+等。 希望这对活跃的波段交易者(Swing Traders)和高级交易者有点启发,如果你是只交易指数的新手,不要尝试。 _ 一些随机想法: 1. 不要在你不愿意在该价位买入的股票上卖出看跌期权。不要因OKLO或QBTS的高权利金而诱惑,因为它们可能在突然下跌后多年无法恢复。你需要先知道什么是优质的多头标的。 ^^^^重要*** ^^^^,请不要在随机仙股或投机标的上卖出期权。只卖你愿意买入并持有的标的,因为卖出看跌期权意味着你最终会在该价位买入。 2. 在高隐含波动率(Implied Volatility, IV)的真正好股票上重复操作,例如如果HOOD IV达到90%或RKLB/NBIS IV是90%,因为一旦行情停滞,IV最终会降至60%左右。 3. 不要对极高贝塔股票过度使用保证金,通常1.3-1.5x保证金对NBIS或RKLB这类股票更安全。高贝塔股2-3x杠杆很危险。 这就是为什么~1.5x保证金对NBIS、CIFR、HIMS、RKLB等是合理的(约1664倍杠杆效应),以防除一只外其他都跌。 然后对META、IBIT、TGT、AMZN等低贝塔股票,你可以放心使用保证金,因为即使大跌也不会严重损害投资组合。 4. 学习隐含波动率并知道它为何变化。如果你只是重复操作但在财报周卖出,而像TTD这样股票暴跌40%,你就麻烦了。这仅适用于非财报周。 5. 如果想更安全,选择低一档的行权价。比如$CIFR $7.5可能不会触及,但$10行权价有小概率触及。但我本来就想在$10买入+5.2K权利金,所以我选了那个行权价。 6. 还需要了解重大宏观事件+风险水平。凭记忆,可能有关于美国政府停摆的负面消息,美国衰退几率增加,Polymarket定价三次降息概率从65%降至56%等。 另一方面,像AMZN在8-9日有Prime Day,价格可能上涨,所以可能更好在之后卖出期权。如果风险太大,我可能会等到10月3日再开始卖出看跌期权。 _ 一般粗略经验法则: IV <30%:不太值得,像Blackrock、SPY除非有PPI等事件否则波动不大。 IV 30-45%:通常是MSFT、GOOGL、AMZN等科技股。除了用于高贝塔股的1.5x外,用额外保证金做这些很好。 45%-65%:通常是MRVL、Coin等30-60%年增长率的公司。有时它们定价错误,如COIN/HOOD的IV有时不值,鉴于它们的波动幅度。 65%-100%:通常是RKLB、NBIS等更有趣的散户股,这是很好的甜蜜点,因为它们可能在回调时反弹,如果你知道如何择时底部+加点缓冲,很可能获得100%+的权利金收益。 100%+:哈哈危险区(如果卖出几天到期的期权)。像OPEN、OKLO、财报。可能有原因。如果你知道原因,比如NBIS因MSFT交易上涨40%,我会在200% IV时卖出$85看跌期权,因为从根本上我会在那个价位买入。 如果NBIS等股票在1-2天到期时IV升至100%+,这对期权卖方其实是好事。如果是一周到期,嗯,可能有什么极度波动的事。 _ 如果我要分解个别案例: 以AMZN为例,作为波段交易者,我会在$210附近买入看涨期权,不太可能跌破$207.5(所以盈亏平衡点是$207.15,即-5.96%),所以你要确保选择一个它永远不会触及的水平。你也知道IV+贝塔(波动方式)相对较低,所以可以根据它不会触及来调整保证金。 对于高贝塔股,例如85股 NBIS $96看跌期权,(+5.52K权利金) ($809K) IV是92%,这对期权卖方太棒了。你获得更多权利金,而且你不认为它会跌破$100。IBKR不提供此功能,所以我推荐Robinhood查看盈亏平衡点,这只股票需要跌11.3%才能盈亏平衡。 _ 再次强调,我只推荐给风险承受能力较高的活跃波段交易者,否则坚持持有超过一年的股票。 这也是为了激进复利期权卖出, 而不是战略性地用于定投(DCA)建仓(例如,如果我想在$120买入AMZN,并认为能以更好价格获得,你可以卖出当前行权价的看跌期权,而不是低得多的行权价)。 此外,这几乎每周都有效,**除非**发生像特朗普关税那样彻底击垮市场的黑天鹅事件。那周的看跌期权卖方会被摧毁,你可能需要接受微小损失并重新开始。 当我有闲置现金时我会这么做,因为我更偏向突破交易者(Breakout Trader)类型。 这只是我个人的交易风格和思维流程,再次强调非常危险,即使你有一些经验。这是超级高级的,我很多前量化交易员+买方同事都有现金,并在$1000万+上做这种期权卖出风格,我只是展示怎么做以及背后的思维过程。 欢迎随意提问,我会帮忙解释。

    英文原文

    Aggressively writing options off $1m would be: +$20.24K in 5 days, 2.024% a week, 183.48% y/y return. With a $1M cash, IBKR portfolio margin example: 85 $NBIS $96 PUT, (+$5.52K premium) ($809K) 55 $HIMS $49.5 PUT (+$1.427k) ($270k) 250 $CIFR $10 Put (+$5.239K) - ($253k) 80 RKLB $42 PUT (+3.8K) ($332K) 35 TGT $85, (+$1.3k) $296k) 35 AMZN $207.5, (+$1.22K), ($725K) 50 IBIT $59 PUT (+$947.86) - ($293k) 5 META $712.5 PUT (+$869) ($335K) $1M cash, 3.31M margin. This is just something I would do if I kept cash for the next week. This is bottom timing on every stock, and predicting strikes that would not hit for this week based on fundamentals, macro timing, events, and volatility. Also the return would probably be higher than 183% if you did it earnings week lol, which is probably the most profitable out of any event. BUT AGAIN SUPER DANGEROUS, this is something I'd personally do, maybe just read for fun and try on paper accounts but not live. Also, I'm also going off the top of my head with margin maintenance (eg. you can leverage more with META, TGT, AMZN, etc. given they're low beta). You have to time bottoms then write the puts. eg. AMZN not likely hitting sub $210, BTC sort of bottoming $107k around now, RKLB not going below $43 near term, NBIS $100 support, TGT bototming, META not likely to drop 5%+ a week, etc. So hopefully this is a bit informative to active SWING TRADERS and advanced traders, if you're a newcomer with just indexes, do not try this. _ So just random thoughts 1. Do not write puts on stocks you're not comfortable buying at those levels. Don't get tempted by high premiums on OKLO or QBTS cause those could just never recover for years on a sudden drop. You need to know what a great long is already. ^^^^IMPORTANT*** ^^^^, please do not write options on random penny stocks or speculative stuff. Only stuff you're fine buying and holding since writing puts kinda means you would buy it at those levels anyway. 2. REPEAT with high IV on REALLY good stocks, eg. if HOOD IV reaches 90% or RKLB IV is 90% or NBIS IV is 90%, cause eventually IV decreases to 60% or something once things stall out. 3. Do not over-margin extremely high beta stocks, usually 1.3-1.5x margin is safer for stuff like NBIS or RKLB. 2-3x on high beta is dangerous. That's why ~1.5x margin is fine 1,664 on NBIS, CIFR, HIMS, RKLB, etc in case all of them drop aside from one. Then low beta stocks like META, IBIT, TGT, AMZN you;'re fine margining since it wouldn't really dent the portfolio much if it drops that much. 4. LEARN implied volatility and know WHY it changes. If you just do this on repeat but sell stuff on earnings week and something like TTD crashes 40%, you're in trouble. Again this only applies non-earnings week. 5. If you really want to play safe, do one strike lower. Like $CIFR $7.5 will probably not hit, but $10 strike has a small chance. But I'd want to buy it at $10 anyway + the 5.2K prem, so I chose that strike. 6. Also need to know any major macro events + risk levels. So off the top of my mind, there's probably going to be negative news about US GOV shutdown, increased chances of US recession, polymarket pricing down triple rate cut 65% -> 56%, etc. On the other hand, some catalysts like stuff like AMZN has prime day on 8th-9th so it's likely to do better around and increase in price so probably better to write options later. So I might just wait until Oct 3rd, to start selling puts instead of this week if it's too risky. _ Generally rough rule of thumb IV - <30%, not exactly worth it, doesn't really move too much like blackrock, SPY unless there's like PPI or some other event IV - 30-45%, usually tech stocks like MSFT, GOOGL, AMZN, etc. It's good to do these with extra margin on top of your 1.5x that you use for higher beta. 45%-65%, usually more 30-60% y/y growth type companies like MRVL, Coin, etc. Sometimes they're really mispriced like COIN/HOOD IV is not worth sometimes given how much they move. 65%-100%, usually your more fun retail stocks like RKLB, NBIS, it's really good sweet spot since they'll likely bounce on dips and if you know how to time bottoms + add a few percent off, it's likely 100%+ premium gain. 100%+, lol danger zone (if you're selling few days out). stuff like OPEN, OKLO, earnings. Probably a reason for it. It's good if you know WHY like NBIS increasing 40% off MSFT deal, i'd sell $85 puts back then at like 200% IV because fundamentally I'd buy at those levels. IV goes to 100%+ on stuff like NBIS if there's one or two days out and that's actually a good thing for option sellers. If it's a week out then uhh something might be extremely volatile. _ If I had to breakdown individual ones AMZN for example, as a swing trader I'd would buy calls around $210 levels, unlikely to drop past $207.5 (so breakeven is $207.15 which is -5.96%), so you want to make sure you choose a level it never hits. You also know IV + beta (how things fluctuates) is relatively low so you can change your margin based on it never hitting. For high beta for example, 85 NBIS $96 PUT, (+$5.52K premium) ($809K) IV is 92% which is so nice for option selling. You get more premium, and you don't really erxpect it to dip below $100 either. IBKR doesn't do this so I'd recommend stuff like Robinhood to see breakeven, so on this stock would need to drop 11.3% for breakeven. _ Again I'd only recommend this if you're an active swing trader with higher risk tolerance, otherwise stick with stocks that you just hold over a year. This is also for aggressive compounding option selling, not using it strategically to DCA into positions, (eg. if I wanted to buy AMZN at $120, and I think I could get it at a better position, you can write PUTS at current strike instead of way lower). Also, this kinda always works every week **UNLESS** there's a black swan event like Trump tarrifs that absolutely tank the market. So PUT sellers that week kind of got wrecked, and you might need to just take a tiny loss and restart. I do this when I have spare cash on the side since I'm more of a breakout trader type. This is just my personal trading style and flow of thoughts, again VERY DANGEROUS, even if you have some experience. This is super advanced, a lot of former quant traders + buyside colleagues of mine have cash and do this option selling style off $10m+, I'm just kinda showing how it's done and what the thought process is behind it. Feel free to ask random questions and I'll help explain.

  2. 分享期权卖方策略经验:选对券商、小户用保证金、精通IV与财报风险。

    补充一下关于学习期权卖方策略的讨论: 1. 券商选择极其重要,大资金账户切勿使用 $HOOD。他们声称免费,但可能是期权交易中最差的券商,因为他们将订单路由给做市商(MMs),并通过糟糕的成交执行来赚取你的钱。除非你在Mag7或SPY上卖出低点差的现金担保看涨期权(Cash-Secured Calls, CCs)或现金担保看跌期权(Cash-Secured Puts, CSPs),否则请使用 $IBKR 进行订单执行,即使你以最低价格卖出,他们也能提供最好的成交。看似损失几美元,但每份合约0.2-0.4美元的执行差异能带来数千美元的差别。 2. 如果是小账户,我建议用保证金(Margin)代替2倍杠杆ETF,因为后者存在波动率衰减(Volatility Decay)。(你可以谷歌搜索为什么不要长期持有2倍杠杆ETF)。使用保证金有清算风险,但仍优于杠杆ETF。帖子中应该已经提到过这一点。 3. 学习股票的隐含波动率(Implied Volatility, IV)。例如,$HOOD 通常每天波动不超过4-6%。$NBIS 通常每天波动不超过7%。$TSM 很少出现单日4%以上的波动。如果你在 $NBIS 上卖出4天到期的CCs,例如6*4,卖出约$130的24%+虚值(Out-of-The-Money, OTM)期权(当前股价$107)通常是明智且盈利的。如果你卖出约$110的CCs,你是在要求股票被行权(Call Away),这通常是你试图卖出股票时的策略。了解催化剂(Catalysts)也很重要。如果有财报(Earnings)发布,原始IV不再适用,因为股价可能大幅波动。财报期间的CCs策略完全不同。 4. CSP策略很好。如果你想用小账户大量操作,使用IBKR的投资组合保证金(Portfolio Margin),这样你可以在很多股票上卖出大量深度虚值的看跌期权(Puts)。最大风险是你不知道自己在做什么,或者出现像今年早些时候全球突然加征20%关税导致市场崩盘这样的黑天鹅事件。我是从大量经验的角度说的,但新手可能会亏很多钱。IV规则同样适用。如果 $AMZN 通常每周波动+-5%,你可以卖出7% OTM的看跌期权,很可能每周获利。财报策略又是另一回事。解释起来很花时间,但也极其盈利。很多人持有$1M+资金,通过“更安全”的CSP或定投(DCA)每周被动赚取$10k。每季度财报周能赚大钱,除非股票像 $TTD 那样暴跌40%。但总体而言,如果你想复利增长财富+现有资产,学习这些很重要。 期权卖方策略是极佳的“房地产”(指卖出CCs或极深度虚值看跌期权),前提是你懂行且操作于 $IIBIT、$HOOD 等正规资产。否则风险巨大。总体上是给交易者很好的建议。只是我基于个人经验的一些想法和细微差别。

    英文原文

    So just to add to the discussion on learning option selling: 1. BROKERAGE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, NEVER USE $HOOD IF YOU HAVE A LARGE PORT. They claim it's free but it's probably one of the worst for option trading since they route your order to MMs and that's how they make money off of you by screwing your fills. Unless you're selling CC's CSP on Mag7/SPY with low spread, then use $IBKR for order execution since they give you the best fill even if you sell for the lowest price. It looks like you're losing a few dollars but .2 -.4 per contract on execution makes thousands of dollars of a difference. 2. If you're a smaller account, I'd recommend margin instead of 2x leveraged ETFs because of volatility decay. (you can use google to learn why you don't hold 2x leveraged ETFs for more than a short time). You have liquidation risks if you use margin but it's still better than leveraged ETFs. Think they pointed it out already in the post 3. Learn IV of stocks. Eg. Hood probably doesn't go up and down more than 4-6% a day normally. NBIS probably doesn't move more than 7% a day. TSM doesn't really move 4%+ a day. If you're selling CCs 4 days out like on NBIS, 6*4 for example, selling 24%+ OTM for like $130 if it's $107 is usually smart and profitable. If you sell CCs for like $110, you're asking for your stock to be called away and it's usually a strategy when you try and sell it. It's also important to learn catalysts. If there's an earnings coming up the original IV doesn't apply anymore since it could swing a lot higher or lower. Earnings CCs is completely different. 4. CSP is good. If you want to do a lot of this with a small account use IBKR portfolio margin, that way you can write a sell a ton of puts way OTM on a lot of stocks. Biggest risk is either you don't know what you're doing, or there's some black swan event like random 20% tarrifs on the world crashing the market earlier on in the year. Again I'm saying this from the perspective of tons of experience, but a newcomer might lose a lot of money. Same rule for IV applies. If AMZN is usually +-5% a week, you can sell PUTS 7% OTM and likely profit every week. Earnings again is a whole new strategy. it will probably take me a whole lot of time to explain this but it's extremely profitable too. A lot of people just sit on $1M+ and make like $10k a week passively doing "safer" CSPs or DCAing into positions. And earnings week every quarter is an insane amount of money. Unless a stock gets nuked like how TTD tanked 40%. But generally important to learn if you want to compound your wealth + existing assets. Option selling is great real estate (for selling CCs, or extremely OTM put selling) ONLY if you know what you're doing + do it on legitimate assets like IIBIT, HOOD. Otherwise there's tons of risks involved. Generally great advice overall for traders to learn. Just my thoughts and nuances to the lesson from personal experience.