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驳斥MRVL被取代谣言,指出物理限制使其无法短期切换,视抛视为买入良机。

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终于深入研究了 $MRVL。 我的第一反应:市场和分析员/新闻到底在抽什么? 来自 Maia 量产的收入几乎是 $MRVL 2025 财年总收入的两倍。 看数据,这令人震惊: 富邦 (Fubon) 预计 Marvell 仅在 2027 年微软 Maia 量产中就能获得 100-120 亿美元的收入。 作为对比,Marvell 2025 财年收入为 57.7 亿美元。 无论如何看,Marvell 看起来都是博通 (Broadcom) 的强劲竞争对手(在收购 Celestial 之后),也是一个极佳的长线标的。 但是... The Information / Benchmark 发布了新闻称: - 微软正在与博通谈判,以在未来几代产品中取代 Marvell。 - 亚马逊 Trainium 3 和 4 的设计流向了台湾竞争对手 Alchip Technologies。 导致股价大幅抛售。 深入研究后,这怎么可能呢? “Marvell Technology 股价下跌,因为 Benchmark Equity Research 下调评级, citing 失去亚马逊 AI 芯片业务。” “Benchmark 认为 Marvell 输给了 Alchip,尽管 Marvell 最近预测数据中心增长强劲。” - Trainium 3 的生产已锁定 Marvell 的设计。如果不从头设计全新芯片,你无法“切换”到 Alchip。如果要共享范围,当然可以,但措辞简直糟糕透顶。 $MRVL 已经获得了 $AMZN 整个 2026 年的 Trainium 3 订单,亚马逊为什么要取消所有订单然后选择新供应商? 可能有不同的范围、额外的设计服务等,但所有新闻的框架听起来像是 $MRVL 被取代了。 Benchmark 自己在造成损害后(通过更多“行业讨论”)大幅收回了说法,称 Marvell 并未完全失去 Trainium 3/4,而是亚马逊增加了 Alchip 作为额外设计支持,而 Marvell 仍保留地位。 但股价已经受损。 至于 The Information 关于 $MSFT Maia 输给博通的报道,这是煽动性新闻。 摩根大通 (JP Morgan) 后来直接出来基本说这是假的,“没有 ASIC 项目份额损失”。 在微软交易上,市场完全错过了“立即取代”和“未来几代”讨论之间的细微差别。 物理规律使得从 Maia 到博通的立即切换不可能,除非有惊人的多年延迟。 现在用博通取代 Marvell 的 Maia 300 需要废弃整个 2nm 掩模集,重新设计 I/O 环,并重启 3 年的验证周期。Marvell 特定的 SerDes IP 也嵌入在芯片的 I/O 环中(重定时器和交换机通信)。如果微软目标是在 2027 年量产 Maia 300,芯片必须在 2026 年中后期进入验证阶段。这意味着物理设计今天已经冻结或接近冻结。 今天(2025 年 12 月)与 $AVGO 的新 ASIC 设计将面临以下最短时间线: - 架构与 RTL(12 个月):逻辑定义和 IP 选择。 - 物理设计到流片(9-12 个月) - 掩模生产与晶圆厂(3-5 个月):TSMC 2nm 周期。 - 硅后验证(6-9 个月) 总时间:~30-38 个月。 即使加快几个月,这些“与 $AVGO 的讨论”最早也要到 2028 年才能大规模部署。为了赶上 2027 年的量产时间表,微软必须出货 Marvell 的设计。 此外,微软的机架基础设施使用 Marvell 的“Alaska”重定时器和 DSP 在电缆中。 微软必须: - 重新认证机架中每根电缆和背板的信号完整性。 - 拆下主板上的 Marvell 重定时器并替换为博通版本 还要更改他们的定制液冷机架“sidekick”,这是针对 $MRVL Maia 芯片特定版图分布指定的。$AVGO 芯片会有完全不同的物理版图和热密度,他们需要重新设计机架。 所以当市场计入立即取代风险并基于 TMZ 式的讨论八卦谣言交易时,他们完全是在开玩笑,谣言称微软想探索选项。 $MRVL CEO 甚至出面表示他们手中握有明年全年预测的“采购订单”。2026 年的预测可能偏低,因为 $AMZN 和 $MSFT 的量产都面临延迟。 但如果你看长期 Q4 2026 到 2027,仅从他们的订单和 Maia 300 来看:即使仅估计 ~200 亿美元收入带来 7.72 美元每股收益,30 倍市盈率(之前交易在 35-40 倍),如果是两年后等待,股价将从 85 美元涨到 231.60 美元/股。 所以 TLDR:整个“取代”理论被极其完全地误解了,只是噪音。通常我不会为此写整篇文章,但看到 The Information 和其他新闻一次又一次出现,通过煽动性措辞传播错误信息,这简直疯了。 中期切换在物理上是不可能的,市场误解了取代。所以最近的抛售看起来是一个坚实的买入机会。 至于未来的讨论,当然任何公司都希望供应商多元化。如果 Meta 想从博通多源采购,$MRVL 也可以对 $META MTAI 未来几代做同样的事。 如果仅按单个项目 Maia 300 建模并忽略媒体噪音,$MRVL 看起来非常有前景。

英文原文

Finally took a deeper look at $MRVL. My first reaction: What are the markets and analysts/news smoking? Revenue derived from Maia ramp is literally double $MRVL's FY 2025 revenue. If we look at the numbers, it's staggering: Marvell is modeled to take in $10-$12B in revenue (Fubon) in Microsoft Maia ramp in 2027. Alone. To put that in perspective, Marvell's FY 2025 revenue was $5.77B. No matter how I look at it, Marvell looks like a strong Broadcom competitor (after Celestial acqusition) and a terrific long. But... The Information / Benchmark released news that: - Microsoft is negotiating with Broadcom to displace Marvell in future generations. - Amazon Trainium 3 and 4 designs went to Taiwanese competitor Alchip Technologies. causing a massive selloff. After looking into it more, how is this even possible? "Marvell Technology declines after Benchmark Equity Research downgrades the stock, citing a loss of Amazon’s AI chip business." "Benchmark believes Marvell lost Amazon’s Trainium 3 and 4 designs to Alchip, despite Marvell’s recent forecast of strong data-center growth." - Trainium 3 production are locked to Marvell's design. You can't "swap" to Alchip without designing an entirely new chip from scratch. If you want to share scope, sure but the wording is absolutely atrocious. $MRVL already secured Trainium 3 orders from $AMZN throughout 2026, why in the world would Amazon cancel them all and then go with a new vendor? There can be different scope, additional design services, etc. but the framing from all the news sounds like $MRVL is being displaced. Benchmark itself later walked it back materially after causing damage (via more "industry discussions") and said Marvell did not lose Trainium 3/4 outright, but that Amazon added Alchip for additional design support while Marvell retains a position. But the damage has already been done to stock price. As for The Information report on $MSFT Maia loss to Broadcom this is sensational journalism. JP Morgan later literally came out and basically said it's all false, "there has been no ASIC program share loss". On the Microsoft deal, markets completely missed the nuance between "immediate displacement" and "future generation" discussions. The physics of this make an immediate swap impossible from Maia to Broadcom without incredible multiple-year delays. To replace Marvell with Broadcom for the Maia 300 now would require scrapping the entire 2nm mask set, redesigning the I/O ring, and restarting a 3-year validation cycle. Marvell’s specific SerDes Is is also embedded in the chip’s I/O ring (retimers and switches comms). If Microsoft targets a 2027 ramp for Maia 300, the chip must be in validation phase by mid-to-late 2026. This implies the physical design is already frozen or nearing freeze today. A new ASIC design with $AVGO today (Dec 2025) would face this minimum timeline: - Architecture & RTL (12 months): Logic definition and IP selection. - Physical Design to tape ot (9-12 months) - Mask prod & Fab (3-5 months): TSMC 2nm cycle. - Post-Silicon validation (6-9 months) Total Time: ~30–38 months. Even if this is sped up by many months, these "Discussions with $AVGO " not be ready for volume deployment until 2028 at the very earliest. To hit the 2027 ramp timelines, Microsoft must ship the Marvell design. Then there's Microsoft’s rack infrastructure uses Marvell’s "Alaska" retimers and DSPs in the cables. Microsoft would have to: - Re-qualify the signal integrity of every cable and backplane in the rack. - Rip out Marvell retimers from the motherboard and replace them with Broadcom versions As well as change their custom liquid-cooling rack "sidekick", which was specified toward specific distribution of the $MRVL Maia chip’s floorplan. A $AVGO chip would have a completely different physical floorplan and thermal density and they'd need to regineer the rack. So market are completely trolling if when they price in immediate displacement risk and trade on TMZ-style discussion gossip rumors that Microsoft wanted to explore options. $MRVL CEO even went out and said they have "purchase orders in hand" for the entirety of the next year's forecast. 2026 forecasts are probably light because $AMZN and $MSFT both faced delays on their ramp. But if you look at longer term Q4 2026 into 2027, we just from their orders and Maia 300 alone: even just estimating $7.72 EPS from ~$20.0B revenue, 30x P/E (they've traded 35-40 before), would be $231.60/share from $85 if you want to wait 2 years. So TLDR: The whole “replacement” theory is extremely completely misinterpreted and is just noise. Normally, I wouldn't write a whole post on it, but seeing The Information and other news pop up again, and again, spreading misinformation through sensational wording is just crazy. There's a physical impossibility of a mid-cycle swap and market misunderstanding of displacement. So the recent sell-off looks like a solid buying opportunity. As for future discussions, of course any company would want vendor diversification. $MRVL can go do the same with $META MTAI future generations too if Meta wants to multi-source away from Broadcom. If you model just by single project Maia 300 alone and ignore media noise, $MRVL looks incredibly promising.

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